Ashibelieve:
Chief in the abroad they get it right from primary/elementary school.

Shey lecturers will teach the things students failed to know in primary and secondary school to help them pass in university?

At the beginning of the course theyre supposed to give basic taste-tests to gauge everybody's level since people are coming from different backgrounds.

From those results everybody will know their weak point.

Do these lecturers bother to do that

9jaRealist:


Thanks for the intelligent discussion. Have a great day...
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And you too, friend

KanwuliaExtra:
Why not just buy a DOG?
Dogs lick better than humans o.
Especially, at that time of the month.


* i have testified on NL about this in 2007. caused me many yeye aprokoistic holy-mwenje h-enemies on NL ke. all of dem don quench tey tey. muchechecheche *

I saw a post on Reddit about a woman who gets her dog to come and lick/climb her

9jaRealist:


EVERY society and nation started somewhere and worked their way up...
In my parents time in the US (1960s), blacks were still being publicly lynched, denied the vote, denied service in shops and generally segregated.

Meanwhile, how much does a “qualified Nigerian doctor” has to pay for his education as opposed to UK or US-qualified doctors (where most graduate from medical school with up to $250K loan debt)? A nation’s most important natural resource is human capital, and thus nations invest in their citizens with the hope and expectation of getting a ‘return’ by those citizens productivity (or re-investment into the society). Tens of thousands of Nigerians have benefited from heavily-subsidized and/or even free public education, including so many Nigerians in the diaspora.

Citizens create nations, not the other way around...

Ultimately, Nigeria’s condition is the culmination of the actions (by commission or omission) of ALL Nigerians - as will be its future.

And now I can see your point, yet it doesn't take away from the fact that suffering a low quality of life that doesn't match your expectation for your personal effort and achievement will naturally prompt you to consider alternatives.

Is it an individual doctors fault that his education was relatively cheap?

If they are able to provide the free and heavily subsidised education then why not follow through and create a conducive work environment?

Or to remedy your grouse, be like Singapore(I think) and rule that anybody who studies medicine on a govt grant must work for the government for at least 2 years after graduating.

Your last bolded statement closes the case.

Kleenatics:


Then "Computer Science" is not the best course to study in Nigeria right now. An SSCE holder with programming skills is better off.

Okay, noted

But then again, is that not just a function of the archaic Nigerian system and not uselessness of the course itself?

I remember reading an article that Computer Science is the most lucrative course to study. It was from abroad

gaskiyamagana:

Which of Nigeria billionaire is "" medicine and pharmacy""?

You dont need to be a billionaire before you can be considered successful

Lack of respect for a simple life and idolising money is what is messing up Nigerian society.

A pharmacist who can look after himself and send his children to school without selling fake drugs and inflating invoices so that he can can become a "billionaire" in order to feel among is okay by me and should be okay by anybody who is serious

Kleenatics:


You'll learn nothing if all you desire is "Computer Science". In Computer Science, you have Web development, Programming, Data Science, Software development, etc.

The question was about courses and "Computer Science" is the name of that course

9jaRealist:


Not quite...

Apart from the reality of NO guarantees...
Education is merely a TOOL, not a job application.

The real value of education is the development between your ears...
Even in the US and UK, many graduates end up serving coffee and driving Uber.

Sadly, the reality is that certification is often mistaken for education in Nigeria...
With proper education, the range of opportunities in this country is virtually limitless.

You dont get it. I was not disputing the value of education. I was comparing the expectation for its dividends with the reality on ground.

The fact that in the US and UK, many graduates end up driving Uber, serving coffee, working reception desks and other mundane jobs is irrelevant because you havent qualified that assertion.

Are you comparing the lunacy of being owed months of salary to being a taxi driver in America?

Does a trained teacher expect to suffer these types of indignities in his adult life?

Are you comparing a Business or Media Studies graduate from a low-ranked UK university with poor-quality research who was unable to find a suitable job in post-recession Britain with a qualified Nigerian doctor who deals with a crippling patient ratio and has to work in 2 different hospitals to keep the lights on in his house?

If you want to discuss these things you need to make a specific point otherwise your post ends up being redundant.

yeyeosoronga:
African Americans are not so bad tbh. Marry the educated ones among them, and make sure you're not a bum meaning you have a job and can provide for your family. You will be well taken care of by an AA woman. They are also keen to learn about your Nigerian culture and are more than happy to be assimilated to it. They want their children to have an African identity, and they aren't bad generally. Though, they won't take some foolishness some Naija women take from their men o. You will see correct craze if you try am.

Exactly

Blue3k:


Some people like being primative. I had the same type of people arguing with me in annother thread I dedicated to this topic. There's other core issues like irrigation, bad roads, storage and land use act which hinders farmers access to credit.

Yes o, bad storage/preservation culture is ruining everything. Even inconsistent electricity supply. It all ties up together.

Have you ever passed an open plain filled with spoilt mangoes? Mangoes that the locals could have dried and sold as snacks will be rotting under the buzz of millions of flies. Its heartbreaking

Blue3k:
Mechanization is a major reason Nigerian farmers aren't productive.

Thank you. And that is also a major reason for our general lack of progress.

Technological advancement in agriculture is what moves a nation into the big leagues. When I said this to somebody the person started writing paragraphs smh

adonainana:
It will be suicidal for any nigerian architect to try to use these styles of designs to build a house in nigeria. Like you said, these designs was what was reigning in Europe at the time in particular times of different centuries.

Hm! Quite unfortunate.

We will be fine jare...

Thanks for your time!

anonimi:


For our country and blacks generally, even in the advanced countries, it is more appropriate to say that no one wants to be the sacrificial lamb but everyone has the expectation of a certain standard of living from a community/society that they have invested nothing into.
See the dilemma

I dont understand where all the argument is coming from; the hundreds of thousands of Nigerians in diaspora who have contributed to healthcare, commerce and education nko?

Even if you have a point, you are also detracting from it from being extreme. You cant deny the fact that people who try and try in this country often have nothing to show for it where they would have in a working system, which is why they emigrate in search of greener pastures. Thats all I was driving at in my original comment.

Whether they should be doing that, whether our political engagement is up to standard or the wider question of lack of progress in black nations is a different story.

If you want others to acknowledge that black people should do more, then you yourself need to admit that we are not totally useless, everywhere we go.

Anyway, you keep poking holes in my comments and attaching all these provocative cartoons. I notice that most of your posts seem to imply an exasperation with black Africans.

Im curious; what is your own solution to the problem? What about "blacks" do you wish to improve (I do understand that we could do better)?

AnanseK:


Are you for it or against it? Don’t sit on the fence.

Actually, I'm quite ambivalent on this particular measure by the US govt. I can understand why they wouldn't like the idea of somebody grabbing their passport and zooming off so I can see where theyre coming from. It doesn't really rile me that much

I was only moved by the incongruousness of your earlier post with core American values. The whole point of the US was people leaving their countries behind and forging new identities for themselves. So ruling that an American can only be born to another American defeats the whole concept.

BCISLTD:



Not really..except if the cousin disappears with any assets traceable to him

Hm! Okay o

nisah:


Best comment I read on this thread.

Thank you

anonimi:


Please who do you expect to do that for this educated, middle class?
Who does it for the educated middle class in the US?
Do you if this majority of educated, middle class Nigerians are volunteering time and donating money into the political process to ensure their own space is protected
This sense of entitlement without matching sense of responsibilities will worsen our country and make us perpetual underdogs even when we are in the US.

Expectation is not the same as entitlement. The point of educational achievement is that you expect a certain standard of living to come of it.

When you wait and wait and still end up not seeing it...bye!

My whole post was pointing out why it is that people flee and why it's not farfetched to anticipate that they will. Brain drain happens all over the world and not just in Nigeria.

Like this guy:

Victorex001:

I deserve better, it’s a short life I deserve and owe myself sanity and too bad my home country can’t offer me that.

Not everybody wants to be a sacrificial lamb

Gerrard59:


Well, to be honest, that is the job of the upper/middle class. It's their responsibility to ensure things are OK not just because they want them to be so, but for society's benefit. It's where their children will reside when they are no more. I don't expect the people in Potiskum or Oron to participate in civil protests and demand for good governance because they don't know what a functioning society should be like.

Unfortunately, Nigeria's upper/middle class is/are selfish and most are adamant to admit that they are.

Yes, people should do all that. My point was, would they

Mashallah:


Why use our Arab slave master on the picture instead of Africans

That's exactly what I asked them.

DexterousOne:
You have spoken well

Thank you

Gerrard59:
In summary, the vast vast majority of Nigerians will be ecstatic with this news because it doesn't affect them in anyway let alone negatively. Call it schadenfreude, you won't be wrong.

Perfect. People always brush over the difference between the working, middle and upper-classes in these threads and it makes the whole discussion meaningless.

What exactly are you "staying to develop" when your education, training and general expectation for life as an adult are drastically different from what you are experiencing in reality? Is a teacher or a nurse supposed to be struggling to eat?

So why wont they swarm the airport like locusts Thats what people dont understand. If you want the educated, middle class majority to stay and develop the place, you have to make sure that at the very least, their lives wont be a living hell.

"Work hard kids, study hard...be disciplined...one day you'll be a lawyer....a doctor...and...."

And you wont have running water, constant electricity, decent wages or be able to walk down street without some haggard, disgusting fellow appearing to call himself a "Police officer" (who, by the way, is supposed to be part of that trained middle class) harassing you for N20 and waving his loaded gun.

Does it make sense To anybody...?

joepepsy:
Stay in Nigeria with generator?

Dont mind them. Even people who went abroad would rather be in Nigeria, if conditions were favourable

AnanseK:
A very good move. I wonder why a foreigner delivering his foreign child in America should automatically give the children citizenship.
A good move to stop the birth tourism but not enough.
There should be legislation in America to rule that all children born in America have the citizenship of their parents countries. So the baby is American only if the parent was already an American citizen. That makes sense.

That goes against the whole spirit of why they founded America. The US is a migrant country

Its just now that people are exploiting it too much that they had to do this

Yankee101:


The bible covers ALL of life issues

Amen

Greystone:


HeRe is the shocker...
The useless gateman approached my friend, who lived in the flat next to mine to support him with some money
because he was planning to marry a 3rd wife!

He even started keeping malice with my friend for turning down his request Silly man...Some people are absolutely bonkers.

Lol that guy was punishing his wives while this guys wife is punishing herself! There is room for every type of person in this world lmao!

koyyes:


Did you read the part where he himself made the decision to start sleeping in the other room? That itself was a very wrong move and it sure made his wife extra comfortable with the idea of sharing their bed with the kids. He isn't even happy that he is there talk more of having sex there as suggested by the wife.

Again, read my 1st comment, however ridiculous his wife's attachment may be to the kids, it shouldn't be what will bring the roof of their house down. They are his children after all. You can refuse to acknowledge the psychological workings that could be causing this behaviour...but it is there and should be tackled with caution.

No need for threats and unnecessary quarrel. If e dey pain am like that then let him for a start teach his 8 year old how to sleep separately.

If you mean that he needs to be more proactive in his approach and take control of the situation, I can understand that.

But your original comment was mixing it with other stuff like "dating his wife", "motherhood" "she's meeting him halfway" as if youre excusing her crazy behaviour! Which halfway! Whose mother acts like this Not mine!

I think my point was "What kind of woman allows children to chase her husband from his own bed?!" Then your own was "what kind of guy allows children to chase him from his own bed?!" Which are both valid. Right?

ImaIma1:


And people are saying he is selfish. How can an 8year old be sleeping in their bed. Some mothers should be sanctioned. Very annoying.

I just dont understand what these people are typing, its unbelievable. Is it actually normal to some people or what

Using your hands to mess up both your marriage and your daughter smh

Elbone2:

Madam,The most difficult job on earth is to raise your kids especially waking up to breastfeed ur baby at nights with eye bags day to day! It's tiring, relentless and stressful....With no house help,relative around to help out it can be exhausting thats what I'm saying...The way OP is complaining it's like another thing is happening...Abeg give the woman a break....U can address me however u chose it's ok.Gudnight

You just repeated yourself

koyyes:


Did you read the part where he said she doesn't deny him sex? Or are you just hell bent on using the vices of uncultured, indisciplined males to threaten a young marriage?

And there is nothing wrong with him dating her. She is his wife. They can do whatever they want to spice it up and solve his little issue.

I have left adultery out of my epistle to show it should never be an option for a responsible man who wants to enjoy marital bliss.

Yes, I read that part. And did you read the reason behind her not "denying" him sex? What is the current obstacle behind the misplaced "compromise" Why cant they use their room? Their room that was designed for a specific purpose?

I didnt say there was anything wrong with him dating her. I said that dating her in response to her irrational behaviour is ridiculous!

Look, can you just answer this question?

Is it socially, morally or ethically acceptable for an 8 year old who will soon begin to show signs of puberty to sleep in her fathers bed?

I didnt want to go there but I just cant believe what some people are typing in this place, Im flabbergasted.

People are making excuses for iniquity in here and trying to make it a male/female issue or feminism/misogyny issue when it isnt!

Elbone2:

Don't know if u any clue on how stressful it is to breastfeed and babysit a child.....This woman there is being overworked and bombarded with home chores...Yes,She should be complaining but she's not...Which time she won get to take think of sex and romance when all OP wants is another Stress upon suffer.

Abeg! Listen bro/sis

Even if I am childless, at least I was once a very small child and I distinctly remember that at 9PM, my mum would come in to tell us to close our storybook and turn off our lamp.

"Good night, Midnighter" "Good night Mummy"

Finito! Until morning.

Thats how we ended up with younger siblings and thats how I cant use my own children to mess my marriage up, haba!

I dont know what chores or babysitting youre talking ooo everybody must go to his or her room shekina.

Theres no excuse for an 8 year old girl being in my bed in the middle of the night. None!

Greystone:


If i could have liked this post more than once, I would have.

Hahaha Im in shock.

If people who cant afford more than one room crave for space...If in developed countries, the government will try to give poor families a house with enough room to give the children some privacy...what then do we call this?

Answer: Insanity.

koyyes:
You see why I say Nigerians don't raise men anymore?

How can a small issue like this be brought to a forum filled with touts?

For crying out loud your wife is not denying you sex. She is trying her best to meet you half way even though her attachment to your kids is on a high bar.

The person up there who advised you to date your wife is not stupid. He/she knows how that will help to reenforce that bond and remind your wife that its you and her till death.

You think its easy being a mother? The whole pregnancy and motherhood affects the psychology of mothers differently.

What is he dating her for! Why do you need to be "dated" before you will do the right thing?

When the man starts carrying idiot girls up and down she will still come here and open a thread to complain.

How can you bring up motherhood to defend this; so should she also follow the girl to school and to the bathroom under the guise of "motherhood"? Give me a break! She's suffocating her daughter.

The small babe will grow up, marry her own husband and enjoy her life while you mess your own marriage up and use her as an excuse smh