₦airaland Forum

HungerBAD:
$40bn in (foreign) reserves and $27bn in the Excess Crude Account?

That is a lot of money.

For those insulting Nasir el-Rufai, ever wondered what happened and where the money went?

Why don't you ask yourself why you are so gullible?

Remember when Sanusi claimed that $47 billion went missing? Then continually revised that figure until it was zero?

Keion Henderson is not a 'US based Nigerian'.

The article doesn't even claim that.

He's an African-American.

Stop spreading lies please.

Apostle Akan Weeks has released a statement revealing the reason for the recent collapse of the Reigners Bible Church in Uyo, Akwa Ibom state.

According to the general overseer, the incident was caused by 'the kingdom of darkness', who are in a clear battle with the church.

He pleaded with people to stop blaming him for the disaster, adding that he was currently lying in the hospital because of his injuries from the collapse.

"Let Christians in Akwa Ibom State know that this battle is not all about Akan Weeks and his church, it is the battle between the kingdom of darkness and the church

in the land.

The General Overseer started getting blamed for the incident after a report by Leadership newspaper revealed that he had allegedly ignored a ‘stop work’ order by the

Uyo Capital City Development Authority (UCCDA), given while the church was at the foundation level in 2013.

According to the report, Apostle Weeks went on to refuse to supply the building plan, structural design, Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA)

and other relevant documents to the UCCDA.

He also ignored another ‘stop work’ order by the agency in 2014.

The result of this was the collapse on December 10, 2016, which killed over 200 people and injured several others.

I was injured in the leg too. Please, this is not the time to crucify me; I’m still your brother. Reigners Church family, I’m still your pastor. The enthronement was

canceled completely and I am not interested.

Please let us rise and pray. Once I am out of my hospital bed, I will come on air and we will pray together. I was also seriously injured. One of my legs was seriously

damaged,"

he said during a phone-in to a private radio station in Uyo.

The General Overseer started getting blamed for the incident after a report by Leadership newspaper revealed that he had allegedly ignored a ‘stop work’ order by

the Uyo Capital City Development Authority (UCCDA), given while the church was at the foundation level in 2013.

According to the report, Apostle Weeks went on to refuse to supply the building plan, structural design, Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) and other relevant

documents to the UCCDA.

He also ignored another ‘stop work’ order by the agency in 2014.

The result of this was the collapse on December 10, 2016, which killed over 200 people and injured several others.

Deicide:

In Egypt they once Worshiped the Sun and this ideas have been improved upon over time...

I just realize that You don't even Understand my statement that's why you were Quick to say "Prove it"

Worshipping the sun makes more sense than creating an imaginary friend.

Human beings have actually regressed in that regard.

I guarantee you that in both cases the women were living in poverty prior to them falling pregnant.

Why don't we discuss that issue before attacking Nigerian police or pretending that American police are wonderful.

American police murder more than their fair share of innocent civilians and are the first line in the prison industrial complex that robs millions of Americans of their liberty.

joywendy:
*coughs* I saw this somewhere and I totally relate with it. Since I saw this thread, I just knew it will be good to put it here



Sometimes ago, I shared a post of a friend on emotional intelligence. The Uyo church tragedy and the comments from my Facebook friends truly show Nigerians have a lot of emotional intelligence "growing up" to do.

If the mishap had occurred in say a beer palour, night club, or strip club, many religious people wouldn't have wasted time and thoughtlessly say : "na God catch them". Using the misery, misfortune and tragedy of others to score cheap religious points.

Sadly, same applies to atheist. I've read several post from my atheist friends on Facebook, mocking the dead, asking where their God was when the tragedy happened and other silly sort of comments. It's uncalled for and totally wrong.

Where is your empathy for fellow humans. Lives were lost and you see the tragedy as an avenue to score cheap points in furthering your atheism? Well you lack common sense and have a lot of emotional growing up to do.

To the senseless survivals of the tragedy who waste no time to update their Thanksgiving on Facebook, Ini Edo and co, you are all emotionally retarded and insensitive to the misfortunes of others and have a lot of growing up to do.

I feel doubly for the people who have been effected by this tragedy - firstly for the physical injury and loss of life but secondly because they were deceived or coerced into accepting mythology as a basis for their lives.

What I hope that we see is some accountability for this act of evil that has caused so much devastation - both physical and PR wise.

As to your comment about this happening at a beer parlor, strip club or hotel/brothel - have you not noticed how it doesn't happen to those venues, only those built to honour deities?

Why is that?

What does that tell us about the nature of the people involved in the business of religion? Does it not suggest that they are even more unscrupulous than those involved in other businesses?

Even the famously corrupt Nigerian civil service has managed to avoid the ignominy of building collapse and yet churches that take in so much money in Nigeria are crumbling, causing mass loss of life.

Why would a governor need to open a restaurant?

This man Ayade sure knows how to misuse time (amongst other resources).

And why did they not post pictures of said restaurant?

BiafranBushBoy:
No mind them, they believe there is no Christian God, but Muslim own dey exist

Confused people

It's the same imaginary being.

Both of you celebrate the god of Abraham - the one who 'punished' mankind because Adam ate an apple.

It is you who is confused, or ignorant.

No one admires Saudi Arabia, especially not atheists.

Even the Muslims that I know are highly critical of that country.

Israel is in a state of perpetual war, both internally and with its neighbors - again not a country to admire.

The Vatican is home to more pedophiles per square mile than any other place on earth - what's to admire?

And why is what 'westerners' do of any importance?

4everGod:
Again i tell you to shaarrapp! In your pea sized brain you think you hold all the answers when those more brilliant than you are still asking questions.

If you do not understand when Jesus became a son and when he was God then thats your fault as we are entitled to our words but you are entitled to how you understand them. spiritual insight is not for everyone. Most especially not for the carnal minded.

'Spiritual insight' is the opposite of reason and the cousin of mental illness. I do not desire such 'gifts'

4everGod:
Can you show me proof you are speaking the truth when you said "All of these xtians pastors, preachers and missionaries are spreading falsehoods. This is especially true of the so-called 'prosperity preachers' who take advantage of their gullible sheep every week"

It is impossible for there to be an omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, all-loving deity who also presides over this planet of ours and answers individual prayers.

Animals do not talk, as the bible claims.

Virgins do not give birth, as the bible claims.

Human beings cannot live for several hundred years, as the bible claims.

The bible claims that Jesus is god and the son of god, at the same time. This is both foolish and dishonest.

Anyone preaching from the bible is, by definition, preaching falsehoods.

4everGod:
Sharraap! Such idiocy spewing from you should be a taboo.

Why should I 'sharrap'?

Why could you not type 'shut up' when it has the same number of characters?

Why should telling the truth be 'taboo'?

MrPRevailer:
Well that's left for Christians to discuss because it within our community.

And common sense will tell the sensible that in a basket of eggs there are good ones and bad ones. False Teachers and false pastor's. But fools have no understanding.

There is nothing 'good' about knowingly peddling lies.

All of these xtians pastors, preachers and missionaries are spreading falsehoods. This is especially true of the so-called 'prosperity preachers' who take advantage of their gullible sheep every week.

hahn:
Does god not have a responsibility to protect everyone?

Ask them why they have lower standards of conduct for their deity than they have for human beings.

If a human father allowed tragedy to befall his children and did nothing to stop an avoidable event from happening that man would be held to account and demonized but xtians will make excuses for the worst oversights - whether that be collapsed buildings, abused children or terrorist attacks against church members, xtians will always ignore the lack of action from their all-knowing, all-powerful deity.

Ferruccio:
Why do buildings collapse all the time in Nigeria?

Have you not noticed that it is churches that are collapsing?

That should be the question - how does the all-knowing, all-seeing god allow his sheep to come to such a horrible end?

Question for the xtians - why does this keep happening at churches? Why are nightclubs not collapsing and killing the people inside? Why are brothels not collapsing on their occupants if god is so displeased by their actions?

EazyMoh:
Don't let atheist see this your post. All those things you listed can be found in ten fold severity in the Bible.
Child marriage - depends on your definition of child.
Pedophilia - depends on the minimum legal age for marriage in a particular place.
Rape - is punishable by death in Islam.
Forceful conversion - Is not allowed in Islam.
Forceful marriage - Is also not permitted in Islam. The party involved can sue whoever is trying to force them.

How can you claim that forced conversion is not permitted in Islam when Muslim 'conquests' are the means by which Islam spread?

Exciton:
No one could have said it better.

Not a single fucking day goes by without a "graphic pics" post on nairaland. Bodies torn, limbs mangled, adults, children, babies. Yet, these hapless idiots won't stop to ask themselves deep questions like: "why did this happen?", "what can we do to prevent this?", and "why do we keep living and dying like common animals in some jungle?"

They'll only make stupid, unnecessary religious/spiritual remarks like: God knows best, God will judge, karma, thunder is doing press-up etc or they make it political, or tribal.

My hypothesis is that the society, her politics, her poor governance and every other thing that follows are like this because our society is built on two ideals: money and basic everyday survival.

Our mindset is locked to some sort of "I must survive and make it quick" mode of thought and existence. It's the reason why we have rich politicians, thieves, pastors etc as role models. It explains why we have a soft spot for the promises of religion and the supernatural. It explains why we are a materialistic society. It's the reason why the common man isn't curious about his environment, why we don't stop to think about the plants and animals and art and poetry to see beauty in the universe, why we don't invest time to understand the world around us, why we aren't scientific, why we don't explore, why we don't build, invent or create. We want it quick, so we hustle, make some cash and import products we have no idea how to make!

We Africans will keep living short brutish lives until good education awakens us to the reality of our pitiful existence and forces us to re-build our society from scratch by creating new ideals (like dignity in hard work, be curious and explore the world around you, always ask questions etc) that the people in a healthy society should aspire to attain.

People in advanced countries aren't intrinsically better than us. It's just our ideals and way of thinking that's holding us down!

I agree with much of what you have to say apart from the materialism which isn't unique to any one society.

My question for Africans is why the intelligent Africans have allowed the foolish (men like Buhari) to run their nations into the ground?

Why is there so much cowardice when it comes to confronting those who keep causing the problems that we can all see?

Why other associations have not been created to seize control of their nation's destinies - sideline the numerous religious charlatans. useless traditional rulers and the elders who provide nothing besides outdated ideas?

egbonnla:
Can women really stop corruption in Nigeria? They are the catalyst of corruption because either directly or indirectly, men ended up spending proceeds of corruption on women. Just check the expensive clothes and jewelleries some of the women were putting on..............Adam was innocent until Eve lured her into corruption.

This woman is the worst of of them.

She went to Argentina to give a talk on child marriage - what has she done to stop it in her own region?

Now she's telling others to stop corruption from within the home, meanwhile she's very close with the Abachas and her own husband is either very crooked or very incompetent.

This is the first time I'm hearing of any such bill. Where are the links to the media reports?

If Buhari's election will hasten the break up of the north and south then I will volunteer my services for this idiot's campaign.

Vote for Bubu the Fool 2019.

Northerners and their foolish bigotry would be more tolerable if they were at least somewhat progressive. Unfortunately they aren't, at all.

rottenegg:
Continuation of traditional ceremonies doesn't mean that they dont encourage or create avenues to enlighten, prevent or treat health issues in their communities.

Like I said, not all are BAD!!!!

If they are dying it is because people see no use for them.

If they had any place in modern life then they would not die out.

Just as many languages in Nigeria will die due a lack of need, so too will many of the traditional practices. This is an inevitable fact as communications and transport links improve and people gain greater access to information.

rottenegg:
Its a traditional ceremony at ogu/bolo plus other parts of Nigeria too. It signifies maturity into womanhood and let's the community know when a girl is ripe for marriage. Very few partake in it these days.
My wife is from there and did hers long ago.
Most traditional ceremonies in our country is dying because of yeye statements I read above.

Not all traditional ceremonies are BAD!

They're dying out because they are archaic and useless practices.

Let them screen the entire the community for HIV/AIDS and other STDs instead of this nonsense.

According to the book of Genesis the 'devil' is the speaker of truth.

If the truth is evil and satan is a truth speaker then by default god is a liar.

EyeHateGod:
Because Christianity is The only Religion that Tries to Choke it's believes on others.. If you don't accept then you are a Demon i don't see Islam doing this... So i guess Atheist tends to vent their frustration back "online" on Christians.. Sounds like a Fair game to me...

Islam is the same, if not worse.

If you don't believe in the teachings of the Quran then you are kufr and should be killed, or at least maltreated.

Most of the people here who 'attack' xtianity do so because they are in environments in which xtianity is the predominant religion.

If Islam was what surrounded them then they would focus their ire on the teachings of Mohammed.

N1 to $1 - Scrapped

5,000 for unemployed - Scrapped

Free school meals - Scrapped

Boko Haram to be eradicated in six months - Scrapped

Full disclosure of assets by public office holders - Scrapped


I hope all of you Sai Buharities burn your voter cards and stop destroying your homeland by voting in dummies who make you feel intelligent.

GudluckIBB:
Baba pls make elumelu cbn governor, that albino uy of emefiele is clueless like the Man who Employed him.

You expect a clueless president to make rational appointments?

Anyway, it looks more likely that Emefiele is being handicapped by Buhari - some of the policies sound like the failed policies from Buhari's first disastrous reign.

It's unfortunate that people have been killed doing their jobs but what of the farmers who have been slaughtered in the North and Middle Belt?

Why is their no response from this government on this matter...

Why is a midget in Kaduna talking about paying off criminals to murder Nigerian citizens?

Peroti:
Seriously waiting fr buhari to concede defeat by 2019
D ever lived northern dictator

Let him concede defeat tomorrow.