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^^^ just like you prove any other rape.....

NobleG1:
Your jungle justice has no place in this modern time.

but cheating does?!

That he helped her with her rent doesn't mean he owes the place!

pls educate me on this issue: if i pay the rent of a house (and invite someone there), doesnt that make ME the "owner/leaser" of that house, or does that make the people i invite there the "owner/leaser" of that house?! at what moment did this lady became the "owner/leaser" of that house? at what moment did the man who pays for it lost his right to the house?! again, anyone who pays the rent has ALL the rights in that house (and all the proper documentation to throw this lady to the street), whether he wants to invite a woman to live there or not.

If you can't give a gift to someone without expecting it back, then don't give gifts! A gift is NOT a loan!

a gift is offered to someone when you BELIEVE she deserves it. if it was false representation (that made you hand over a gift) then you have all the rights to take your gifts back.

the reason why you cant understand this issue is because you dont look at this type of r/ship the right way. these are NOT normal r/ship, these are just like employment, with a boss and their employee. so just like any employment out there, when you work hard, you get rewarded with "gifts" such as company car, company gas card, company housing, company mobile phone, unlimited company debit card etc etc etc, but when you get fired, then all these perks are taken BACK from you because you cease to be "employed" by that company.

now, here are a few clues for all these clueless ashewos:
- if a guy gives you a car, but the car remains on the guy's name, then it is NOT a gift but a loan.
- if a guy rents an apt for you to live in but the lease is on HIS name, then you are just a long term visitor to that place (even though you may have the keys)
- if a guy pays for your phone line, and you guys break up, dont get surprised if the line gets turned off.
- if a guy gives you a debit card where every months he transfers spending money, and you guys break up, dont get surprised if the card gets cancelled.
- if a guy pays for your school fees, and you guys break up, dont get surprised if the next semester wont be paid by him.

It takes a real man to be in a relationship. It's NOT for amateurs!

it takes a strong ashewo to be faithful to the man who pays her rent, her phone, her hair.....shiiit, her EVERYTHING. its not for amateurs who think they can have their cakes and eat it too. a sugar daddy owns his sugar baby's aaass, she is HIS property and she has NO right to go give that toto to anyone but who that man has decided can mount that toto. if that runz gal does not like the terms of this employment contract, she can go and try to fend for herself, and see how she manages it on her own.

@OP
so seeing someone's lower back is wrong now?! lol!

complete NONSENSE!!!!! how was he forced to swallow these pellets? did they force them down his throat? why couldnt he go to the police straight when he was at the airport in São Paulo? this is too easy to blame the drug barons, and try to take the blame away from themselves. this guy is the only one who got caught and therefore he should fully serve his sentence. desperation should NEVER be accepted as the excuse to do any crime in this world. no wonder that its always lazy people like this man, who want to cut corner for easy riches, that ALWAYS end up as drug courier. just like its always greedy people who end up falling for 419scams.

holicalpha:
when it comes down to Women mentality, everyone of em is a victim.....even the educated Folks.

Damalex4luv:
Are you for real! You must have started dozing off before typing this garbage

mekybabe1:
My dear, it doesn't really follow. A typical example is Funmi Iyanda's case with Segun Odegbami. She knew he was married, yet gummed her body to him and even went ahead to have a baby for him hoping that he will divorce his wife for her sake but the guy broke up with her and it became a problem. Some ladies are just daft.

Truckpusher:
Another lie

johhnnie:
Ur current minister of petroleum is a 2nd wife despite all her education. I guess she must have been a child chick at a time before she was promoted to being a wife.

kai, see all these people who are confused about this issue...... ok let me school you for a minute then:
see the problem with all you people is that you have a small mind, and therefore when i wrote educate your kids, you simply believe that, as long as you pay for a child's education, you have done your job. WRONG!!!!!!

this is just ONE part of that child's education, the second part is to educate that child AT HOME so that:
- this child knows the rights and wrongs of life;
- this child has high self esteem and is proud of him/herself;
- this child has good manners, high morals and class;
- this child is honest, polite, considerate;
- this child is respectful, caring and kind to others;
- this child is humble, fair and determined;
- this child is patient, hardworking and responsible;
- this child should have integrity and be accountable for his/her actions;
- this child stands for what they believe regardless;
- this child fully uses his or her brain properly to make their own judgment;

but most importantly that this child knows their self worth, the mechanism of life and LOVE... and therefore knows that (just like in mathematics) if someone loves you then they couldnt possibly cheat on you.

teach them that....NOTHING worthy can be built from a cheating r/ship, the foundation of that disrespectful and unfaithful union is already messed up, and we certainly shouldnt raise our children to be in such union. Upgrading oneself from a side chick to the main chick is the epitome of failure, the same way someone cheated on his ex (to be with you), is the same way he will cheat on you (to be with someone else), when he is tired of you, duh!

sadly, in Africa many consider these unions proper, thanks to the failed upbringing of many (to each their own), and some even end up as 2nd/3rd/4th wives etc. how LOW has a woman fallen that she would accept to share her husbands/home with another woman in holy matrimony? how DESPERATE has a woman fallen that she would gladly decides to be the who.re tool that would destroy a marriage? yes, many would say that the husband is guilty too (and yes he is) but that in no way makes this cheating gal's action any less WRONG. many women would say that they embrace the idea of having co-spouses.... lol, they are just a bunch of brainwashed obedient sheep. but again, some people are willingly killing themselves for love so, i guess, being a co-spouse is a piece of cake on the scale of desperation.

so yes, a person can be educated in the best schools around the world and still have low self esteem, and foolishly decide to A) be a side chick or B) be a second wife (or 3rd/4th/5th etc)...... SO EDUCATE your children!

PS: let us not make it a debate on whether polygamy is right or wrong (on this thread), we can do that on some other thread, and i will be glad to educate you further. MBJ

NobleG1:
You don't give people gifts in the hope to get it back! When a gift is given, it autonatically becomes the reciever's property (even if you have the receipt), unless the reciever rejects it or voluntarily returns it back to you.

In a reputable court of law, you don't get gifts back! He had no right to take those things back forcfully. In fact, he should be charged with unlawful entry and theft. Unfortunately, we don't have good justice system in Nigeria.

If the girl actually cheated on her boyfriend, then she's a s*lut. He could have just dumb her and move on.

If you're not gonna be fully commited in a relationship, END it!! Don't cheat while in a relationship!

So it was wrong and immature of him to do that. If you know you gonna demand your gift back if the reciever does something you won't like in future, then DON'T GIVE ANYONE GIFT.

unlawful entry in the apt that he may be paying?! bwaaaaaaah, she should be lucky he didnt throw her broke aaass in the street (something i would have done too).

yes the gal is a deceitful lady, and different people deal in many different ways with such women, to each their own. some just leave quietly (and are called oversized maga), while others take back ALL their shiit (and are called reborn ex maga).

the sad fact is that many of these women are mistresses to married men, nothing more than that. they know the deal, and even though the guy is married, he has paid for the toto so it is HIS (and no other man) to mount. if any other man is mounting it then he (the other guy or guys) must chip in and pay half or their fair share of all the goodies (at the very least) lol!

yes we all know it is immature to take back gift, just like it is immature to cheat on your sugar daddy. both actions fit perfectly for one another.

LORETA:
why will ladies never learn, my co-worker lost one of her sister to last year because the guy who sponsored her toke her issue to the shrine(i wont mention the tribe) after everything she said she aint marrying him again..she fell ill for long time...they begged this guy but he never forgave her...so is that what you want this guy to do than take his things back..............................just pray that the guy you think you are cheating is not heartless or else ,na heaven you go for tell God the matter..some guys could be heartless on issues like that most especially when they feel used.ladies be warned ohhh

although what this man did is wrong (i dont believe in juju anyway) but i understand fully why he did it. we men need everything we can get in order to lift our egos from the floor where these women may have broken and left it. even if she is a pay as you go ashi...she is HIS pay as you go ashi and we men are very territorial like that.
there is a very thin line between love and HATE..... this is the definition of hating on the gal who cheated on you.

holicalpha:
. Says who.?? Ask your sis what I did to her, she's educated isn't she.??

i dont have a sister, but i do have a dog though. you sure it wasnt my dog you were humping?!

an educated woman can NEVER willingly become a side chick, so please educate your children

VictoriaBee:
Okay, thanks.

1) MissSahara

2) Dunno

3) RuPaul

exactly.

Midehi:
this is where i talk about maturity,if i were the one who rented an apartment for a guy & i caught him cheating,i will yell,quarell but i wont pick a pin from the place just to punish him cos i once loved him, his conscience will judge him more & i will be blessed more....God knows why it happened that way...thats my own view, he would have just let it be.

in 9ja where you pay rent yearly, you will start dating this demon in January, rent a house in February, break up with her cheating self in March.... and you would want the guy to let her stay in the house YOU are paying until next january?! na lie!

VictoriaBee:
Shemales are men?

Well, I just googled it and got hermaphrodites.

You say?

nah, its wrong, an hermaphrodite is someone who was BORN with both sexual organs of male and female.

a she male is a MAN who had plastic surgery to look like a woman (aka breast implant or sex reassignement surgery)

a transexual is a MAN who lives as a woman, dresses in women attire to look like a woman (aka crossdresser).

a drag queen is a MAN who dresses as a woman extravagantly (big eyes lashes, strong make up etc) solely for shows and acts.

VictoriaBee:
She-males are not lesbians.

Lesbians are 100% female.

the guy did not say she-male but SHE-MEN, lol!

Ipledge:
but many she-males practise lebianism

shemales are men so thechnically they cannot practice lesbianism. lez business is two women or more together sexually.

VictoriaBee:
She-males are neither lesbian or gay.

They are genderless and straight.

wrong again, she-males are men who decided to have plastic surgery to look like women....aka men with tits and that sometimes removed their penis surgically to have a female genital (called sex reassignement surgery)

SisterCaro:
you clearly are the one who lacks comprehension because the whole purpose of making those points is to prove that even with the chaos that goes in US people like you would still stay even if it means your salary being neck to neck with debts until you die. Killings based on race and ethnic group exist in the present day in USA is that enough reason for you to denounce US? People like you have been dying poor because you live to pay up your debts, does it make you denounce US? Despite the number of times you have been treated like a secondary citizen in the US by Americans did it ever make you denounce US?

Im just about done having this senseless discussion with you. Going back to the purpose of the thread

nonsense of the highest order!!!! when did you last saw a whole community in the US openly burning Africans alive and chanting, in full view of the whole world? stop making a fool out of yourself. there are crimes all over the world, and when these crimes are committed by a whole community against a particular community, then thats when we have a problem. trying to shift the problem and pointing fingers at others, in order to JUSTIFY what is happening in SA, is cheap, VERY CHEAP!

although i strongly oppose the foreign policies of the US (and many other countries in this world), i have never heard a whole community joyfully burning Africans alive over there... and the day they do, i will equally voice my concern too. in the mean time, stop trying to shift the focus and STAY ON THE SUBJECT of South Africa being a country where every few years some communities rise up and kill africans.

Eze2000:
I am also a writer and a landlord my dear.

you are and thats great, but it is the "prophet" part that would scare females away. in this day and age where many are disappearing for ritual, here you are calling yourself a prophet. wouldnt you kill or butcher your wife if that was one of your vision/message from God?!

of course....so long as it was not consensual then it is rape (whether married or not)

everyday the logo changes, depending on what they celebrate.....but the earlier coloured letter one remains their main logo.

Chiam55:
It's not ethical to take a gift back. So if I bought him a car as a gift because I loved him then no I wouldn't take it back.

You talking bout lending and borrowing which isn't the same as a gift.

i am not talking about what is ethical or not here, i am talking about what any normal person who has been betrayed would do. funny how you would even mention the word "ethical" when the subject of cheating is involved. there is nothing ethical about what she did, the minute she opened her legs to some other dude, the gloves were off and "MR nice guy" becomes a totally different monster (that THE LADY created).

obviously, in such type of r/ship, NOTHING is in the name of the deluded "pay as go" gal, so the guy has all the right to take back everything he owns. the toto was pay as you go, and in return for her favours, she got a nice home and all the goodies that came with it..... as a "temporary" improvement in her life (as long as the gal and her toto stayed fresh and relevant).

Chiam55:
If it was a gift to her he can't take it but if he bought them so that he could enjoy the items then it his.

so if you offer/leased or borrowed something VALUABLE to your ex (Lets say a car) and you realise he cheats on you, would you let him have the car so he can roll around town with this new girl..... in the car YOU bought him?! abeg stop lying yeah!

you ladies are making it seem that break ups are all nice and friendly, while the majority are mostly bitter and full of venom.

anyone who believes this man should have left his stuff is obviously deluded...... these gifts were part of the "unwritten contract" that said that they will cherish one another and be faithful to one another until they decide to part company. the minute she cheated was therefore an "unwritten annulment" of that said contract and therefore Mister man had all the right to take back everything he provided for that said contract. the goodies MUST be returned because she was only RENTING them with sex and faithfulness, the minute she does not provide BOTH, is the minute she does not have any legal right over these goodies any longer.

how dare a lady gets taken care of, and STILL disrespect the man who provides her with all her goodies?! ungrateful broke aaass criminals! i hope that toto was used and abused well well while she enjoyed the luxury that this man provided to her.

@Sister caro
thanks for clarifying that the problem in SA is still there and will take a few yrs to solve.... therefore confirming what i have been saying all along.

the problem with people like you is that you have the audacity to compare any crime around the world with these xenophobic attacks on Africans.i have rarely seen or heard of places where they burned africans alive for no damn plausible reasons, but if you do let me know, i will be glad to denounce these places too. i couldnt care less if they killed Chinese people in Tibet, because i aint Chinese, i couldnt care less if they killed criminals in Malaysia because i aint a criminal, and i couldnt care less if Muslim extremists are bombing everywhere because they kill EVERYBODY regardless if they are whites blacks arabs asians green Christians Muslims Atheists igbos yorubas hausas yankee Nigerians Togolese French Americans Russians women men etc... however i do care when my people (aka Nigerians/Africans only) are targeted for NO REASON WHATSOEVER, and possibly burned alive.

and you even had the audacity to bring slavery lynching to this discussion, as if we should now look at what happened back in slavery days, and use that to justify what is happening today in 2015. where do they find people like you?! well i guess, if i should lower myself and think like you do, African people were sold back in slavery days, so it should be ok for people to be sold today (in 2015), and we shouldnt look at it as abominable atrocities whatsoever, and we should instead travel to these places with a big smile on our faces, pretending nothing is happening? NONSENSE!!!!

we are on a website about Nigeria and Nigerians, therefore if there is any country out there where Nigerians are "possibly" burned alive, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRICANS, then we have a right to talk about it and possibly denounce these places. you can try your best to make it look like it is nothing, or that it happens everywhere, but i beg to differ.

you clearly have nothing to say on the subject (or dont understand English) when bringing poor points such as serial killers, as if there aint any in SA? (go educate yourself on the +150 SA serial killers); husbands killing their wives for financial gain (as if this crimes only happens in the US?); or people being wrongly convicted for crimes they did not commit (as if this only happens to blacks or in the US?). but hey, if you open a thread on any of the above subjects, i will be glad to school you on that too....but let us not shift the focus away from what is important here: the ONGOING discrimination and killing of innocent Africans in SA, just because they are foreigners in SA. ......... maybe we should accept such act today because lynching of innocent people was acceptable in Tennessee back in slavery days.

i can see the SA brigade has arrived, lol!

ify84:
Thank you for this ... I just downloaded one porn to see what I can pick out there but let me just delete it... U are right... I don't like porn but was forced to download.......
Me so eager to get passed this faze....

i fully understand that you are eager to make love to this woman and duplicate all the misconception you may have had about sex....but you need to slow down, and gradually get her to be the po.rnstar you hope her to be.

1) you have to accept that, because you guys are both novices in the game, it will take many trials and errors before you discover A) each other and B) what turns you on (or not). Rome wasnt built in one day, neither did good sex between
two virgins.

2) you have to be GENTLE, let me say it again: you MUST be gentle with this lady. if you are too eager and she is not receptive then you will only make her close even more while you want her to open. so dont force her into doing anything she doesnt want. you have to take it slow and focus on what you are doing. she is like a flower and you dont want to break her, you want to care and cherish her, so nothing "hard" or "brutal". so forget about penetration for a while and instead discover her body, discover her mind, discover her desires, and possibly her fantasies (that one is the jackpot). the minute you know what makes her wet is the minute you are making progress with your new wife.

3) she must be scared and/or uncomfortable, so start with making her feel comfortable around you so she can open up to you NATURALLY (and not by force). start with caressing her, soft touches here and there to understand which part of her body gets her all tingly. run you fingers on her body, practice on your own body to make it perfect, its like your fingers floating on her body, almost not touching her. she has a whole body, dont just focus on tittays and toto, these are just the cherry on the cake. you have hands so use them, sometimes you may do things that may seem pointless to you but that is so much rewarding to her. the aim here is for her to relax around you, if she doesnt then sex will never be rewarding.

4) your body, rub it on hers gently, let her feel how warm you are. hug her, keep her close to you, make her feel like you guys are "one". if she easily get nekkid around you then thats a good step forward.

5) while doing all this, talk to her, open up and let her know how you feel about her, how you love her and care for her (not just that you want to bang her). tell her what you like about her, tell her how warm she is, tell her how nice she smell, how good she tastes, how great she looks, how wonderful she is next to you, how lucky you are etc etc make her feel like she is the most beautiful woman on earth. you can also tell her this all day long, but in the bedroom it makes you score more points. btw: say it like you mean it, and if you can whisper it in her ears, it is even better.

5) kiss/lick her everywhere, yeah you heard me right, EVERYWHERE....your lips need to caress every single part of her body. run your lips/tongue all over her skin...if you do it right, you will see the goose bumps...her ears, her neck, her lower back, her sides...these are very sensitive places that need to be explored with your lips/tongue. again the tittays and toto is the cherry on the cake so focus on other places FIRST, and gradually arrive at these places. sometimes touch these areas to take her "temperature" and go back to what you were doing before. and even when you are going to lick her everywhere, be extra gentle... her ni.pples must not be sucked like you are sucking on an orange, they must be sucked/played with like they could break any moment. around the ni.pples is also very sensitive so play with that area.

6) before you penetrate her, you need to prepare her toto (remember this is like playing with dynamite)....so caress it gently, play with it, lick it good (if it aint against your religious beliefs), ask her if she likes it and start gently with inserting your little finger and let her get accustomed to it. discover all her inside gently, and let her naturally get wet (if she aint already), then try a bigger finger. you can lick her clit while you have a finger inside her (some women explode when you do that). the point is that she should be comfortable when your finger is in there. ask her if she likes it, how she wants it, slower faster, if she prefers it any other way etc. communicate with your bride, let you guys be ONE.

she should also be doing the same things to you but if she is a virgin then it will also take time. there is no GOOD or BAD way so long as you are both comfortable AND ok with what you are doing. so communicate communicate communicate.

...and this is just pre-intimacy

ps: ask her to close her eyes, if it makes her feel more comfortable around you (but beware because some will then start fantasising about some other dude, haba!!!!)

sister Caro, come on now!!!!
i understand that you have lived in SA for the last 10years, and probably made it your home now, and therefore you dislike people who have anything remotely negative to say about Sa, but i suggest you get over it.

again, tell me how what i wrote "EXPLAINS" the xenophobic attacks from South africans towards black Africans? you must be a genius because i dont see it.

also, how what you wrote solved the problem of the xenophobic attacks?! are you saying that putting people in refugee camps solves this xenophobic problem? are you saying that sending africans back to their countries solved the problem (i guess people who have businesses should carry their shops on their heads while leaving, right)?! are you now saying that there was no police in these strategic places during the xenophobic attacks?! highly laughable..... so, in a way what you are "really" saying is that the problem is STILL there... and therefore, if the problem wasnt solved, shouldnt we (africans who would like to visit SA) be worried?

now, Morpeus24 explain perfectly why many south Africans dislike Nigerians, and that is the type of direct answers i was looking for. if you have any beef, i suggest you focus and control your misplaced anger, and instead reply to what he wrote (beware, he seems to know a great deal about SA, lol)

i have never said that there are places 100% safe in this world, i am just pointing out that there is a xenophobic problem in SA. you should accept that instead of trying to make it look like this happens everywhere. yes, there is racism all over the world, but to see people being burned alive simply because they were africans, i havent seen often. so excuse me if what happened in SA make me ask direct questions.... and dont settle for BS answer that "everything is ok now in SA", when we all know this is not the 1st time, nor the last.

the day Africans (in US/Europe or anywhere else in this world) are burned alive for no damn reason, then that is day i will question anyone who will come on NL to praise these places.

take your time, go slow, discover your bride fully, communicate with her, know when it hurts her and when she likes it, ask questions like "do you want me to go faster/slower" "do you like it""do you want me to stop" etc, she is a novice and so are you, so you guys need to learn together.

pls do NOT try to duplicate what you see in po.rn movies....these are movies and rarely what two loving virgin partner do on their 1st sex.

that boy must have been on some strong hallucinogenic drugs.....

Tallesty1:
Relationship these days is just like gambling. Many will still fail to learn after reading this because they are only interested in what their itchy ears want to hear. Anything outside that is like pouring water on a stone

bro, are you saying that we shouldnt base our desires on what works for US? dont you think that "someone who never failed in love can (often) never appreciate love"?

anyone who follows any guidelines in LOVE, and subsequently prevent themselves from doing what their heart longs for, will live a very miserable life (although possibly perfect to outside viewers). you must ALWAYS follow your heart, unless that heart makes you do things that are against your beliefs/criminal or disrespectful to you.

First thing first, dating a lady or guy simply because you love him or her is the height of foolishness because relationship these days is no longer hinged on love, rather it is hinged on convenience.

are you saying that love is NOT the main objective any longer when it comes to dating, and that we have evolved into something else? kai! it has always been convenient to be in love with someone, the problem is that today many focus on the "convenient", and less on the person/love. may i ask: if not for love, what do YOU suggest we should date someone for?

Secondly, love at first sight is a scam. Personally it takes me weeks or maybe months to approach a lady for relationship, not because I am scared or anything but because I don't want to pour fire on myself. Learning and understanding a person takes time and it is better done when the person has no idea that you are interested in him or her. Get to know them.

true that love at 1st sight is a scam, because what you just know about this person is their looks, but attraction at 1st sight isnt a scam... and physical attraction is all what should be needed in order to decide to get to know someone further. your eyes send the message to your brain that its positive and that this beautiful/sexy lady passed the 1st test... now on to the next tests.

not being honest with your intentions, straight from the get go, is wrong IMHO. why should it be wrong for you to "show" a woman that you are interested in her?! why start this r/ship on such a negative footing by pretending to be (desire) what you are not?!

When you approach a lady and she accepts or when a guy approach you and you accept, don't just allow the initial feeling to clog your reasoning. Take time to study him or her. Ask them their likes and dislikes and things they can never tolerate in a relationship. If their likes are your dislikes then your flat azz is in problem.

TIME is what is needed here, as you need to "discover" that person, and not just listen to someone who will tell you what you want to hear on the 1st date (who would even open up to a stranger on a 1st date?). such above questions your quoted are good but you will need to spend TIME with that person in order for TRUST to set in and for that person to HONESTLY reply to you. sadly, by that time you may discover other great attributes about that person that would have you overlook your DOs and DONTs.

i have heard too many times here on people saying they love women they barely know, simply because she likes the same things that this man does, lol.

Austyn44:
Bros. Am happy you took out time to contribute. You are right, it takes time to know someone and emotions can easily cloud our judgement but I believe focusing on the bigger picture and the future is a way to choose reasoning over emotions most times. Afterall emotions themselves sometimes behave like chemicals changing when exposed to different conditions.

it is not easy for all to stay focus on the bigger picture/future, especially when you have all these issues going through your mind. before you meet someone, what you require/desire from a partner is one thing (we all have our lists well made up), but the minute you meet a certain person that you care for and you are overwhelmed by emotions etc, its another thing completely... and you may feel that this person has other attributes which will make you overlook a few things from your list.

Btw, how did you come to have such good understanding of relationship? You are good!

bro, i am still a learner from this r/ship game because if/when you think you know women, you underestimate them and then here comes another one to either blow your mind or have you shake your head in disbelief.

if they are the ones, where is the stolen money?

SisterCaro:
last time u checked being one-sided is called being biased its not intelligence i hope you get all the info you need.

so, if i understand you clearly, people shouldnt ask questions because you get offended by them?! grow up, i have queries and therefore i use my brain and ask questions. when someone will give me answers to these questions, then i will put my brain at ease....now as far as i am concerned, PAINGAIN put my mind at ease on some few questions, but there are many which remain unanswered, mainly:

- the xenophobic attacks that happens every few years in SA aka racism towards blacks in SA (by South Africans)
- what was done to fix the problem (since you are saying that SA is safe "now"
- do you think that because you dont live in these townships then there is no problem in SA? go tell that to the countless foreigners who died

SisterCaro:
Even in USA and Europe Nigerians are painted black but that doesnt make every single one of them bad now does it?

we are still talking on places where Nigerians are viewed as drug dealers, and blamed from the drug problems in SA, right?
if you must know, in the US and Europe, the mention of Nigerians would mostly have fraud/419 come to mind, rather than anything positive. yes, the majority of Nigerians are law abiding citizen but, thanks the the few criminals around, Nigeria is mostly known for what these criminals are doing......everywhere.

Xenophobia attacks were in the CBD in durban and other high density areas in johhannesburg and Chatsworth and that was about it.

Yes Johannesburg and Durban have gone back to normal as far as im concerned and foreigners are safe to roam around these areas.

as i said earlier, A) these Xenophobic attacks are not new, B) this racism thingy in SA (against other Africans) is not new, C) it happened before and will happen again, because the problem has not been solved, and was simply swept under the rug once again.

SisterCaro:
you clearly came on the thread with an intention to make SA look as bad as possible and thats wh you keep insisting on this.

I have lived in SA for over a decade and i can say that if you live in surburbs and make your money legally you will not be victim to some of these things.

You cannot claim to know a whole lot more about a place you have never been to. Let me guess you get you info from selected websites on the net? And you always assume all you read is 100% true?

In that case we can all read a few websites on violence and gang wars in brooklyn and conclude that the whole of USA is filled with gangs and drug dealers

i came on this thread because, like the general population, i have heard too many stories of xenophobia and racism against Nigerians and other Africans in SA......and i want to have more info on the subject as we all know that these issues are not 2 months old. if my questions offends anyone living in SA so be it, but these are the queries i have, and need answers to. so YOU (who lives in SA) can do the needful and educate us all on SA, or be quiet and let us continue have the same negative image of SA. your call!

now if you expect us me to just nod to everything someone says without asking any question (about FACTS that are happening in SA) then you must not know me. i have a brain and i decide to use it fully! as you can see, the people who decided to educate us on SA didnt get offended by my question, they simply gave me ANSWERS.

if someone has never been to SA then they will certainly go to any website to educate themselves on the said country (Expedia/Wiki/Tripadvisor/Lonelyplanet or even NL).....and sadly, yes, crime is mentioned quite a lot.

agarawu23:
apology accepted

BTW: the fact that you think i am an american going to China for business, while that was just the lie i told her to catch her cheating aaaass, is the funny part here, lol!