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[quote author=trini_girl link=topic=44339.msg969835#msg969835 date=1174159554]@mrmayor
mrmayor said "I will complete my analysis of Judas later,"
I'm not too sure Mr. Kurt Saxon would find your plagiarism amusing.
http://www.kurtsaxon.com/atheist003.htm
debate ke[/quote]thanks

davidylan:
You see the futility in many of these so called "debates" when confessed unbelievers begin to "help us" analyse the scriptures. . .

Smile . Its a free world broda!!

wormedup:
well, since u guys are into decoding, i noticed u can't help but connote meanings into almost any statement made here.

Typical Nigerian!!!!! Always suspecting a[b] Hidden Agenda[/b]

THE CASE FOR JUDAS AS ENABLER.

http://www.kurtsaxon.com/atheist003.htm

Angelheart,

The names keeps getting better on nairaland,eye catching name.Welcome,have fun and enjoy your time here.

Welcome to nairaland, enjoy the ride. Good advice Cute-A$$

Nigeria has the Jury system already albeit only in Court Martial (Military Personal) only.They have Judge and Jury.

Uspry1,

Lady you have got some fantastic ideas,wow.I am planning on installing inverters instead of a diesel generator in the four apartment project I have at the moment.I'm checking out different vendors inverters.Inverters with load capacity of 2 airconditioners,a fridge freezer etc.It would a bit expensive to install but considering cost of a generator to serve four apartments and cost of fuel it should be worth the effort.What am not sure now is whether to have a central installation or individual installation.Any keep up the great effort,I believe that Nigerians would buy you idea even if its an expensive one off expenditure,

Cheers

[quote author=F.B.I link=topic=43442.msg951089#msg951089 date=1173537869]that it to say that Jesus died for adams sin before adam was created, abi wetin una think, hope say i dey make sense sha?[/quote]Well well, another interesting angle to the whole creation debate.

If Jesus was at the creation he being (Omniscient) knew already that thousands of years later he would have to die for their salvation!Someone please tell me whats the point of creating something you already knew was not going to meet your standards?

@Backslider,intelligent replies please,no need for another lenghty quotes.no offense intended

Po Deep:
Thanks o backslider

Why thank Backslider?You said all babies would go to heaven regardless of religion except those babies possessed by demons.read your first post again

Evept,

I think you question is a bit confusing,when you say Spiritual Churches do you mean churches like Cele,Sabbath,Cherubim etc; maybe you are asking for New age churches like Christ Embassy,Deeper Life etc?Be more specific about the kind of church your friend is looking for and maybe location your friend is travelling to,the honourable members am sure can give good information.

Hell has no fury like when TOH is pissed off! You are without doubt blunt.

BlackMamba:
Implant a GPS in her pum-pum. If interested, contact me and I'll check out the pum-pum to make sure it's compatible with the device.

gbade.x,


[quote author=gbade. x link=topic=43442.msg944870#msg944870 date=1173345673]Dude, you don't have to go all haywire on me, i'm trying my best here trying to answer your questions.[/quote]I'm sorry if I sound rude no offense intended,I had fun reading everyone contribution here.I think the saying "Is the bottle half empty or half full" is true here.
Anyway sha we are not here to fight, don't take anything you read on the net personally because I don't

Cheers

Evept,

Evept:
Any Rivers here based in Europe,lets hoke up, and Nigerian based is also welcome.

Do you mean "Any Rivers State Person"? if yes then I'm from Rivers State.

Welcome to nairaland and enjoy the ride

ThiefOfHearts:
Mr Mayor is as unique as Mr President

My dear,where have you been?Missed you sha.yes my handle unique very few people have.btw,you can thief my heart any day infact I will pay for it

@gbade.x,

Sir,I think you are clutching straws here and a bit confused.If an examination is to evaluate students academic prowess then the students academic knowledge is unknown till the results comes in.The examiner might have an idea of each student ability but would know for sure when he gives a test to prove his theory.

What is the purpose of IQ test if you already know the answer?In the book JOB,God gave Satan the opportunity to test his servant Job which Mr Job passed with flying colours.Why would Satan ask to test Job if ke knew that God knew the future;that would be pretty lame don't you think?

Swing4real,

Sir,your questions are so lame its laughable at best,but I will answer your questions here goes

swing4real:
1. HOW DO YOU WEIGH OUT A KILOGRAMME OF FIRE?

Fire can be only measured degrees in rate of burn or intensity of burn in Celsius etc it can also be measure in direction of burning called thrust.yes it called Kilograms of Thrust

swing4real:
2.HOW DO U MEASURE A CUBIC METER OF WIND?

Wind is only measure in speed and direction,air can be condensed and measured in litres.

swing4real:
3.HOW DO YOU BRING BACK A DAY THAT HAS PASSED?

Nope I can't,maybe Pastor Chris can  . I can't remember anybody doing it.In the feature Time Travel would be possible and we can all go back to Adam and Eve and stop them from eating that fruit.

swing4real:
4.HOW MANY RIVERS FLOW INTO THE WATERS BENEATH THE EARTH?

Not sure about that but will get back at ya .

swing4real:
5.WHERE ARE THE EXISTS FROM THE WORLD OF THE DEAD?

Stupid question,prove to me that the world of the dead exist and I will tell you how to get out.

swing4real:
6.WHERE ARE THE ENTERANCE TO PARADISE.

I refer the Right Honorable swing4real to answer I gave to question 5,prove there is Paradise

swing4real:
7.HOW MANY DWELLING PLACES,THERE ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA?

Underwater is litered with many rock faces and caves,dwelling places for fishes.don't start with that mammy water nonesense

swing4real:
8.HOW MANY RIVERS ARE THERE ABOVE THE DOME OF THE SKY

I have never heard of rivers above the dome of the sky.BTW where does the sky begin and where does it end?if you tell me am sure I can count the rivers is any.

Backslider,

Backslider:
@Mrmayor
It was Impossible by 2 immutable thing for God to Change. He is God from Eternity to Eternity. Ask him Why he came to die for you?

Typical,side step the question and preach on.Many have tried to answer the question to the best of their knowledge and does who want to learn (Mrmayor) ask new questions.Regardless of difference of opinion I have learnt a great deal from many Christians ,Muslims and skeptics on this forum.

You Sir,have done nothing put preach about this and that without bringing anything to he discussion,my advice is there is a section for Christians where you can share the gospel without members like me asking questions.

Cheers

Typewriter,

Typewriter:
Moreover, it was a tree that God and Satan used to bet on human experiment(to see if man is of free will or not)
so lets leave it at that. Now that we know the rules let's live by them OK!

This reminds me of the movie "CONSTANTINE" if the human experiment is indeed a bet between God and Satan then God can't be All Knowing because however you look at it a Test,Experiment,Bet all hinge on one principle that the result is[b] UNKNOWN [/b] until the test is completed.

Just like the bible tells of the story of Abraham asked to sacrifice his only son to God,the bible clearly states that it was a test which Abraham passed and was rewarded.The test proves that God wasn't sure that Abraham would do as was instructed until Abraham proved himself.If God knew that Abraham would comply then the test was indeed pointless.

@Backslider,

Sir,you seem to take preach the same thing all the time without making any contribution to the thread,you have not tried to answer the question raised "Why Plant A Tree You Don't Want People To Eat From"?

1.If God was testing Adam then God can't be all Knowing because Adam has got freewill.The purpose of any test is the find out the UNKNOWN,there is absolutely no point in testing Adam if God already knew that Adam would fail the test.

Po Deep,

Po Deep:
So,All babies are heaven bound(as long as they're not demon-posessed).

Huh, How were these children inflicted with demons?certainly they didn't bring it on themselves.Why would a loving God send a new born to hell.

Egoldman,

Thanks man,you handle the little shi-t brains so well.I can believe people actually fall for this crap,it was a good read.thank you again

Abdkakir,

abdkabir:
HOw can Babies go to Hell? Thats Crap.
Babies will be in Heaven be he/she be a Christain or Muslim or Wuteva.

If you are right then what is the purpose of religion?

@Backslider,

Backslider:
@Mrmayor
Though the children have no sin(offensive) They have a (resident) Sin Or Potential Sin called the adamic nature. When we disobey (offensive Sin) God, We have completed the Act that was performed in the Garden of Eden.

Sir,I don't get it;whats your point?Are these children who supposedly have RESIDENT SIN heading for hell?

Two years ago a friend of mine had a still birth after trying for so many years to have a baby,the unique that happened was the hospital organised a funeral service for te dead child,my dear friend told me last week that she felt comforted by the thought that her child was in the arms of Jesus in heaven I just nodded in agreement but it got me thinking.What happens to the Souls (if they exist) Babies,Children and aborted Feutuses.
Going by the teachings of the bible,these children have all inherited an Original Sin from Adam and Eve and are actually concieved in sin as their parents are also sinners.If they have not accepted or atleast didn't have the oppotunity of atleast accepting Jesus as their saviour.then they should be in Hell or what do you think.

Ps
51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Jn.14:6
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you know me, you will know my Father also.

Rom,
5:19. For as by the disobedience of one man, many were made sinners: so also by the obedience of one, many shall be made just
Rom. 5:12, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned"

1 Cor. 15:22 "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

A few years ago there was a story in a Montreal paper about an Ohio lady who drowned her baby in a bathtub. Her defense was that she loved the baby so much that she wanted to make sure that her child would not have to suffer forever in hell. After serving a sentence she remarried, had another child and drowned it for the same reason. She trusted that God would forgive her because her intention, though warped by false theology, was for the good of her children.

The jury decided that she was mentally ill, BUT WAS SHE? The simple pragmatic fact remains that if Arminianism is right, her two infants will spend eternity in heavenly bliss because she loved them so much that she insured, by killing them, that this will be so.

If Pastor Chris is making so much money from legal business deals he should have no problem returning proceeds of a crime given to him in the name of tithes

@Abdkabir,

Which one be my defense abi? not sure lets examine the options from your link.

Strong agnosticism (also called hard agnosticism, closed agnosticism, strict agnosticism, absolute agnosticism)—the view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of god(s) are unknowable by nature or that human beings are ill-equipped to judge the evidence.
Not Sure OF This Option

Weak agnosticism (also called soft agnosticism, open agnosticism, empirical agnosticism, temporal agnosticism)—the view that the existence or nonexistence of God(s) is currently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable, therefore one will withhold judgment until/if more evidence is available.
This Is definitely my position on God.

Apathetic agnosticism—the view that there is no proof of either the existence or nonexistence of God(s), but since any God(s) that may exist appear unconcerned for the universe or the welfare of its inhabitants, the question is largely academic anyway.
This view can't be proven one way or the other.

Non-practicing agnosticism—the view that there is no proof of either the existence or nonexistence of God(s), and that it's meaningless to care.
Ignosticism—the view that the concept of God(s) as a being is meaningless because it has no verifiable consequences, therefore it cannot be usefully discussed as having existence or nonexistence. Athiesim In Disguise

Model agnosticism—the view that philosophical and metaphysical questions are not ultimately verifiable but that a model of malleable assumption should be built upon rational thought. This branch of agnosticism does not focus on a deity's existence. Jury is still out on the option

If God was taking care of his children as people of faith would claim,then there shouldn't be all the suffering in the world especially to babies born with deformities and all kinds of diseases.Babies born already inflicted with pain and we are supposed to believe that its because of the sins of their parents "punishment of the innocent because of their parents" or because the the devil.