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harrisonford001:
Don't know if fela is a blessing or a curse to his female children! They are so weird! Well a sperm mixed with weed will produce something weird! If you know, you know! Meanwhile congratulations to the new grandma

If you know who Fela's mum is, you'll know it's all in the genes of Funmilayo Ransome Kuti MON, the matriarch of Anikulapo-Kuti

luvmijeje:
Is there any politician that's a Saint? What's the assurance that if Gbadamosi gets there, he won't steal?

Did the Jakande of this world steal? We are not even talking of stealing, we are talking of who is most capable at providing dividends of democracy to Lagos State. Babatunde Olalere Gagbamosi has ran a virtual micro government in Ibeju-Lekki, providing security, 24/7 electricity, tarred roads with sidewalk and covered up drainage, waste management services, integrated CCTV and broadband internet for link with main gate and neighbors etcetera, without loans, oil block, tax reliefs from government etcetera. Governance is about serving, not stealing

luvmijeje:
MuttleyLaff, leave my Fashola alone o.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76OMNT9A8Qs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M901UixS1Po


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_cVIykqqNE
Gbadamosi there in the first two YouTube videos, talking in 2013, whilst still in PDP. No light then, light still no dey in 2019
I dont know why you, along with the elitists and the corrupted media outlets, that ought to know better, are always fond of making wrong and/or inappropriate choices with all the scammers

luvmijeje, if you must know, Fashola is family, but I dont mind who's ox is gored, I tell it, as it is. No blind loyalty anywhere.
List me Fashola's legacies? Hmm? Nada!
Disu, should ask Fashola about the overbloated cost of the Lagos Rail Mass Transit blue line raised by Gbadamosi. The Lagos rail project still crawling and the completion date kept kicked ahead in the long grass

alBHAGDADI:
Many wonder if abortion is murder and wrong in the sight of God.
Some say it isn't because the baby in the womb is not yet a living thing because it hasn't drawn its first breathe. However, this is wrong as seen in the below Bible passage.

Luke 6:23
Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

In the verse above, we see Jesus telling people to leap for joy. This means that leaping for joy is something done by living things. Let's see if a baby in a womb can leap for joy.

Luke 1:41-44 (KJV)
41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

If a baby still in pregnancy is not a living thing yet, how come John the Baptist leaped for joy in his mother's womb when Mary arrived with Jesus in her womb?
Is leaping for joy not a thing done by living things? Have you ever seen a stone or dead body leap for joy?

Abortion is simply murder of a living thing. Stop it now.

Bible also states that when you hate your brother and/or sister you commit murder too
There is a time for everything, and abortion is no exception to this dictate, it has its time and place

I'll be there to listen to the interview with Fashola, who thinks too highly of himself and his popularity is totally overrated

johnydon22:
Governor of New york just signed into law a new bill removing the protection on viable unborn babies legalizing abortion up to 9 months.

What are your thoughts on this?

Do you support abortion of a baby even at a viable stage?

Is this morally permissible by your own moral judgement?

hahn:
Share the link to the full story @johnnydon22

Who waits till 9 months and then decides they don't want the baby?

LordReed:
There are conditions under which such a procedure will be allowed which is danger to the mother's health. So essentially you are choosing between the mother and child.
I think its a welcome development, people should have a choice in how they want to live or die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuUjdfHIAIs

For more details, read more at:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-york-abortions-birth/

budaatum:
Yes I have. Took me 12 hours to get from Lagos to Ibadan once so now I check their program before travelling and always travel early in the morning before the holy ghost wakes up!

The government should tax those orgs to pay for road maintenance!

Imagine that. Checking program first before setting off, making indirectly forced concessions of travelling early in the morning, depriving you of one or two more hours in bed. Things taken for granted in other countries we wont mention their names here. 12 hours. Possibly a mere 3-4 hours travel time, trebled if not quadrupled. I'll be to London and back, twice, before you get to your kingdom in Orolu. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

budaatum:
I don't! The fuqer just causes traffic on the road stopping me from going out when I want to. And the loss of brain cells he engenders is a greater financial lose that far outweighs any benefits, in my likely biased opinion.

I concur that making a livelihood directly and/or indirectly through him and then having money without brain cells is dangerous. He is not the only fuqer that causes traffic on the road, stopping others from going out to when they want to. Have you tried going to Orolu kingdom via Lagos-Ibadan Expressway when the Holy Ghost or Shiloh conventions is going on?

budaatum:
I have property in Ikotun and know the roaring trade he does. It's however countered, in my opinion, by the nonsense he fills people's heads with. Even the traffic he generates is detrimental to the community as he congests our roads and people's heads.

And Nigeria should learn to get proper stats!

I concur completely with you but then you can't deny the fact that financial wise, state and sundry benefit from tourism to his organisation

lakkyflow:
Is it due to the natural hatred you have for PDP or u don't think deeply before trashing issues .. I listened to him on air on 97.3 when he was interviewed by Uncle Jimi Disu.. The guy is so sound and more intelligent combined with Ambode and Sanwo Olu.. Back to the point , he was asked why he didn't campaign on time and he answered " Anyone that have contested up to three times will surely know the size of his pocket and what he has left ".. He is not into any political post and yet spending .. so don't compare him with APC who has all the money of lagos to spend for advert ...

luvmijeje:
He doesn't even need to campaign to win.

Babatunde Olalere Gbadamosi of ADC is so experienced, sound and more intelligent than with Agbaje, Ambode and Sanwo Olu all combined together

alBHAGDADI:
Perhaps you didn't see that luvmijeje's post doesn't in anyway tend to my post. I ignored her post not only because it didn't treat my post but also because it reeks of ignorance. Let's have a look.

According to her, she can make heaven by not being born again but simply by feeding the less privileged and clothing them. That's why she cited the verses she did.

Like I always say, the Bible is not a book for the carnal mind. If you are not born again and with the spirit of God, you won't understand the words of the book which are spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Now, she quoted a passage but didn't understand stand it, that's why she got the wrong notion from it. That wrong notion is that she can enter the kingdom of God simply by rendering help to people without believe in Jesus which makes one born again. She forgot that the passage spoke of some people on the RIGHT and some on the LEFT. Those on the right did certain things, thinfs which luvmijeje thinks if she does she will also make the kingdom of God. But guess what? Those on the RIGHT became something first before they could do those things which now made Jesus place them on the RIGHT. They first became his sheep by believe in him which is equivalent to being born again. Look at verse 34

Matthew 25:33-40 (KJV)
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Below is Jesus talking about his sheep.

John 10:27-28 (KJV)
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

How did they become his sheep? They became his sheep by doing the will of the father which is to believe in Jesus Christ as seen in the verse below. Notice how they both speak of eternal or everlasting life.

John 6:40 KJV
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Luvmijeje is saying that she doesn't need to be born again which is the same thing as believe in Jesus Christ. According to her, all she needs to do is good WORKS just as the sheep on the RIGHT did. She is skipping the part where those sheep believed in Jesus before they could become sheep worthy to be placed on the RIGHT.

Luvmijeje is simply trusting in her WORKS of righteousness to save her instead of having faith or believe in Jesus. She doesn't know that our works are filthy rags before God, so such can't save us. What saves us and makes us righteous is our believe/faith in God, same thing that got Abraham saved cos God counted that as righteousness.

Genesis 15:6 (KJV)
And he believed in the LORD ; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

Your works of righteousness can't save you. If you like do all the good in this world, if you lack faith in Jesus, you will end up damned like the goats in Mathew 25 who failed to do God's will. Works cannot save you but faith in Jesus will.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of WORKS, lest any man should boast.

Those people whom Jesus placed on the right were placed there first due to their faith which made them sheep of Jesus. It was after that was done that their works now brought them reward. It never said their works is what saved them. If it's their works that saved them, then what's the need for Jesus? As for the goats, many of them did good works as well, but they got condemned because they didn't have faith in Jesus.

Now, as long as you have faith in Jesus, you are a righteous man. Even if you don't do works, you are still counted as righteous.

Romans 4:5 (KJV)
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Now compare the above verse with how the Bible refered to Abraham below.

Genesis 15:6 (KJV)
And he believed in the LORD ; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

alBHAGDADI, if I hadnt brought this matter between you and luvimijeje up, you wouldnt have found your tongue back, so here are seven simple questions to see who between you and luvmijeje really understands better. Seven easy, walk-in-the park questions for you can nibble on:
1/ What is the litmus test, to know if someone is born from above or not (i.e. born again or not)?
2/ Give the prominent example in the bible of someone born from above or not (i.e. born again or not)
3/ How many times did Jesus publicly teach and/or preach the "born again" doctrine?
4/ Who are classified as having or showing dogged determination not to change one's attitude or position on something, especially in spite of shown good reasons to do so (i.e. goats)?
5/ What to your understanding, is righteousness, if not concurrently, doing the right thing, at the right time whilst remaining in right and good standing with God by being on His right side?
6/ When Jesus was asked; "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?" did He mention born again to the rich young ruler?
7/ On another occasion, when a lawyer stood up to put Jesus to the test, by saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?", did Jesus teach or mention born again to the lawyer?

You are fond of hiding behind verbosity and also become skilled, at hiding needle of truth(s) in haystack of woven tissue of lies

budaatum:
But his antics do not stimulate the economy! His antics stimulate his own pocket and keep people in poverty since he does not help them develop their minds but fills them with stupid beliefs which only make them unproductive and dependent on false hope!

Lagos businesses cash in on lure of super-pastor TB Joshua
Hotels, shops and touts in district of Ikotun Egbe are doing a roaring trade as church draws visitors from around the world
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/01/lagos-businesses-superpastor-joshua

How my ministry is boosting tourism sector with religion — T.B Joshua
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/01/ministry-boosting-tourism-sector-religion-t-b-joshua/

Alhaji Lai Mohammed, minister of information, culture and tourism, has expressed his willingness to visit TB Joshua’s Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN) in Ikotun, Lagos state, saying the place of worship is the most visited tourist centre in Nigeria.
Lai Mohammed made the disclosure in Lagos, during a recent media briefing with newsmen on the coming United Nations World Tourism Organisation’s Committee for Africa (UNWTO-CAF) meeting scheduled to take place in Abuja.
The report gathers that the minister indicated his willingness to have a sight seen of the popular place of worship, in light of its position as the biggest tourist attraction to Nigeria.
The minister who also gave a breakdown of the positive impact of the famous church’s activities on Nigeria economy encouraged those who come in from other places to visit the church, to spend their money so that the country can also benefit.

“Honestly speaking, I have no issues at all visiting Synagogue. This is why this particular conference is important; because it is dealing with data, statistics. You see, if 500 people come in every day to Synagogue Church, it means in a month, we have about 15,000 people.
“The impact of 15,000 people on the economy of the Alimosho local government area monthly… You know when they come, which hotel will they stay? What will they eat? How do they go? Do they go outside the church?
“You see, these are issues we need to study; but if you have one source that could sustain thousands of people on a regular basis to your country, it is very important. If they don’t go outside the church, the impact on the economy will be a bit less.
“We need to engage the proprietor. Tourism is not just sightseeing. We have medical tourism everywhere in the world. We have religious tourism.
“Take Saudi Arabia for instance, where hundreds of thousands of people go from all over the world. But the biggest impact on the economy is that when you go to Saudi Arabia, if you have the money, you will buy goods and come back.
“I want to encourage those who come in, even after receiving spiritual blessings, they should please spend their money so that the country can also benefit. But I think it is a good idea,” Lai Mohammed said.
http://www.saharaweeklyng.com/minister-of-information-lai-mohammed-set-to-visit-tb-joshuas-church/

Nigeria may lose N8bn yearly if TB Joshua Relocates to Israel – Fasehun
https://todaynewsafrica.com/nigeria-may-lose-n8bn-yearly-should-prophet-tb-joshua-relocate-to-israel-fasehun/

alBHAGDADI:
You disciples of Daddy Freeze are the most foolish and gullible beings. No wonder he deceived you all easily. You are all more gullible than the sleepless in fake churches. At least those ones are seeking the truth but came across liars and were deceived. You Free The Sheeple Movement members are foolish because you think you know the truth but you fell easily for the lie.

Here you are claiming Christians go about telling people to be born again, instead of them to go preach about the kingdom of God like Jesus commanded. For your information, what they are doing is actually what Jesus sent them, because you cannot see the kingdom of God unless you are born again. Below is Jesus talking.

John 3:3 KJV
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

luvmijeje:
Bullshit. I set a trap and I know a fool like you will fall into it. Mattew 25 : 34 - 39
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

And I don't have to be a righteous fool like you all to do the above.

"We individuals are not the church even though we carry the spirit of God in us. An individual cannot make a church.
It is the gathering of true Christians that makes a church. When they pick a building to gather, that building becomes the house of God. As seen in the verse below, we are to behave ourselves in the house of God which is the church. It doesn't say we are to behave ourselves inside ourselves because each of us is the church."
- by alBHAGDADI: 10:11pm On Jan 25

That piece by luvmijeje, though peppered stewed, sure shut up alBHAGDADI pretty fast, now he's settled for facing and having a go at paxonel and telling paxonel, as seen in the above inverted commas, that the church is not organic but the church is when a building is picked to gather in.

alBHAGDADI obviously is oblivious to how and why Jesus borrowed the ecclesia or ekklesia concept from the Greek. Note Jesus never and/or didnt say I will build an ekklesiasterion (i.e. a building or physical brick and mortar structure) but specifically mentioned He will build His ecclesia or ekklesia (i.e. human capital) on the rock solid foundation Peter uttered

budaatum:
Very desperate clowns indeed.
All this shows is Joshua watches international news and reads international papers. Everyone with eyes saw this coming.
Venezuela's problems started in 2008 when world finances went into crisis and demand for oil, Venezuela's main source of foreign exchange, dried up. It was exacerbated when oil prices eventually crashed in 2014 and the government found itself lacking the funds to run the country. Nigeria too was heading in the same direction but for the policies of the government which tempered it but which many do not appreciate since they seem oblivious to world news. If Jonathan had won a second term, I'm certain we'd be in the same situation since no reputable country would have trusted his government with the incessant looting going on at the time.

It's not today, yansh don tay for back.
The only thing "good" about him, is the false hopes he gives to the impressionables, how his antics and organisation helps stimulates the economy

frosbel2:
Yeah right - keep dreaming , lol

dreaming about reality instead dismayed and having nightmares over the prospect of damnation

frosbel2:
Correction - I should have read what you wrote slowly , instead of replying hastily .

Still , Jesus is not the way to salvation and nothing will happen to those who do not believe in him.

Jesus certainly is the way to salvation and nothing will happen to those who believe in Him nor to those who accidentally did what He commanded to be done. Both will inherit eternal life

UyiIredia:
We do.

Are you by any remote chance trying to advance a point that we live in a perfect world?

UyiIredia:
Your judgement is spoilt.

You judgement is skewed

UyiIredia:
Man and women are specifically designed to complement.

This is not exclusive to only and just "man and women" sic, as man and man too, equally are designed to complement.

UyiIredia:
And by the way that was the answer to your question. A committed, faithful, truthful, caring, honest relationship between same sex is still messed up at the same-sex point.

My question, correctly was:
Clearly and distinctly, and without again prevaricating, what evil is there, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

UyiIredia:
Put incest, necrophilia, bestial & pedophilic relationship and it still applies.

Each one of these, falls foul of at least one, two, three and more, if not all of honesty, betrayal, mutual permission and/or agreement for the relationship to happen (i.e. consent), infidelity, disloyalty, treachery, dishonesty, cheating on, betray hurt another person, harming a dead body, object, animal another person, a neighbour, sexually intimate with a close relation etcetera

UyiIredia:
Indeed, indeed. I am keen to note that gay rights supporters ALWAYS emphasize positive same-sex relationships never its darker sides which nothing is without

Heterosexual relationships too has its fair share of dark and darker sides, so dark sides are not peculiar with same sex relationships alone

UyiIredia:
Oh so we ignore the bad ones and just the good ones. Okay then at this point I MUST ask a similar question. It won't be fair when only you play that card now.

I see you are unwilling and hesitant to say what evil is there, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour, but unlike you, I will bite the bullet, then gladly outrightly, clearly and distinctly answer the question without a hint of vacillation

UyiIredia:
I didn't deviate. I answered you question fro the get-go by noting that men were designed for women not men. To make it plain now as long as it's same-sex it doesn't redeem it's good qualities. Same-sex is wrong. You know a committed, faithful, caring and honest murderer is still a murderer. And yes murderers can care for people usually aside from the ones they murder, sometimes they care for the ones they murder. Life's like that.

Dont you think, that is a huge leap?

So you are now using murderers to leverage with. Hmm? You are comparing two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour with others who have harmed and unlawfully killed other humans without any justification or valid excuse. Hmm? SMH.

UyiIredia:
So you are so bigoted against pedophilia and incest you can only see negatives. There are no committed, caring, honest and mutually beneficial pedophilic and incestuous relationships right?

I can understand some having a disorder called called homophobia, but please dont let us get sick and twisted in the head here with your "committed, caring, honest and mutually beneficial pedophilic and incestuous relationships"
Can a child give consent to having a sexual relationship with an adult? Hmm? SMH.

UyiIredia:
How are incest and pedophilia harmful, cheating, betraying and detrimental? Give reasons and evidence please.

Incest is treachery, harmful, cheating, betraying and detrimental to another person(s). No father will give his blessing that his son should have a sexual relationship with his mother. Show me as evidence, in post modern society, a father, that has ever given his blessing that his son can fairk his wife, his son's mother. Incest relationship is stale and expired, it has gone past it's "use-by" date. I dont have to discuss genetic disorders in excessive detail, so I will leave it at the "use-by" date juncture, as I know you got the drift

Aw, c'mon, is this temerity or what? You are asking how pedophilia is harmful, cheating, betraying and detrimental?
Are you saying you don't know that pedophilia has to do with sexual feelings directed towards children? SMH.

UyiIredia:
The same-sex. Now switch same-sex with incestuous and pedophilic and let me know precisely why your moral recruited self-corrects on those.

Two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour

You still havent been able to clearly and distinctly, and without again prevaricating, say what evil is there, in the above same sex relationship

EdifiedHebrew:
Please tell me what is missing in my replies?
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

ISAIAH 41:21 Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob.
22 Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come.
23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
24 Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.

Empathy and compassion is missing. Your replies centred on yourself, your replies focused on achievements revolved round your personal accomplishments. There wasnt a single relational link, it was all about you, it was I, I, I and I.

I think it is nine "I"s, in:
"I have been keeping His Sabbathdays Holy no buy n no selling, I have been keeping His feasts days ordained in the scriptures, I don't eat unclean foods. I don't shave off my beard n head completely, I keep His laws, statutes, commandments & Judgments.

I don't observe christmass because it is the customs of the pagans.
I don't observe Easter because it is the customs of the pagans.
I don't observe January 1st because it is the customs of the pagans.
I don't observe anything pagan customs anymore."

You are too much in love with yourself, you dont see others to mention about that you've shown love to, given love and compassion to. You gave a typical "young ruler" reply to the question bloodofthelamb asked you. It could cost one inheriting eternal life.

UyiIredia:
Man was made for woman not for man end of story.

In an ideal world, that maybe the case, that "man was made for woman" unfortunately, we dont have and don't live in an ideal world like that

UyiIredia:
And I drew parallels with kids and family members to make a point then you start playing ignorant.

You'll notice the purview of the question centres around two easy going, ordinary consenting adults.

Just you know, it is the same-sex relationships, that are just like two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour that we are talking off here, not the promiscuous, unbridled, unrestrained, unchaste and infidelity relationships

UyiIredia:
Why don't you tackle the answer I gave and stop running away from incest and pedophilia as clear parallels.

I intimated that we will come to incestous and pedophilic relations later, and then implored you to please not deviate from the original question and its parameters, but if to soothe you, then the following is what I'll say about incest and pedophila

Incest and pedophila relationships often and predominantly are dishonest, untruthful and emotionally abusive relationships. Incest and pedophila is a detriment to another person or a neighbour. Incest and pedophila is a betrayal of another person or a neighbour. Incest and pedophila are cheating on another person. Incest and pedophila are harmful to a another person or neighbour.

Now please UyiIredia, say clearly and distinctly, and without again prevaricating, what evil is there, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

luvmijeje:
Agbaje was once like him. Agbaje used a new platform to launched himself. He came to our awareness in 2007 because of the gubernatorial debate. 8 years later a major Party brought him forward as their candidate.

I remembered the week after the debate, I was in the lecture room and one of my lecturers started campaigning for Agbaje and asking us whether we watched the debate. 12 years after I'm about to cast my first vote for him.

Gbadamosi's time will come. It's not just now but he's on the right path.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_cVIykqqNE
luvmijeje, for your information

UyiIredia:
You LGBT rights people always glorify same-sex relationships as if they are all like that. Okay, why don't you use the same logic for incestuous and pedophilic relations. That is assuming you don't even already approved of them.

Because trust me whatever biological excuse you make to castigate incest and pedophilia can be aplied to homosexuality to show it is absurd and wrong. Man was made for woman. End of story. Don't celebrate the abnormal because you want to have pity.

That's how liberals on Quora have slowly started saying, let's have pity and let's allow animated child porn and child sex dolls for pedophiles so they can safely masturbate to satisfy pedophilic fantasies and avoid harm to children. Liberals are good for a conscience on when society is being over-strict but you guys tend to have a misplaced sense of empathy on some social issues.

UyiIredia, please stick to the purview of the question. We will come to incestous and pedophilic relations later so please dont deviate from the original question and its parameters

Now UyiIredia, without you prevaricating, what evil is there, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

luvmijeje:
Why do you think I'm voting PDP this time? There is a saying that says in land of the blind, the one eye man is a king.

I know Tinubu is corrupt but I also know he has created an environment where technocrats gets to be chosen as candidate of any political party. He set the standard for a future Lagos.

Babatunde Olalere Gbadamosi used to be in PDP before aligning with ADP. Members of PDP are underground assisting, woriking and giving support to Gbadamosi. That speaks volume, besides that, Gbadamosi is more capable, equipped and exposed than Agbaje is to deliver dividends of democracy to Lagos State
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luvmijeje:
Why do you think I'm voting PDP this time? There is a saying that says in land of the blind, the one eye man is a king.

I know Tinubu is corrupt but I also know he has created an environment where technocrats gets to be chosen as candidate of any political party. He set the standard for a future Lagos.

Babatunde Olalere Gbadamosi used to be in PDP before aligning with ADP. Members of PDP are underground assisting, working and giving support to Gbadamosi. Besides, that Gbadamosi is more capable, equipped and exposed than Agbaje is

luvmijeje:
It also saddens me that I'm just getting to know of this brilliant guy. I love Lagos State and thanks to someone like Tinubu who raised the standard of governance in Lagos State.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58iq2uleTX8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbSBKhbQDxQ

Thanks to Tinubu for the economic bondage he imposed on Lagos, its citizenry and visitors
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4kings:
I don't have any problems with gays... read my post again.
where i flowed with UyiIredia was on enforcing of some liberal views like, changing of a child gender based on relying on what the child feels and other absurdities the 'LEFT WING' normally impose.

4kings I now understand by your admission that you dont have any problems with gays, but without you prevaricating, what evil is there, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

Also what specifically is it you find weird, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

UyiIredia & 4kings, without either of you prevaricating, what specifically is your beef, problem(s) with and evil, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

bloodofthelamb:
Jesus said, "if our eyes causes us to sin we should pluck it out." It is better we enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than to end up in hell with both eyes. Same goes with the hand and leg.

How effective have you been following his sayings?

EdifiedHebrew:
I have been keeping His Sabbathdays Holy no buy n no selling, I have been keeping His feasts days ordained in the scriptures, i don't eat unclean foods. I don't shave off my beard n head completely , I keep His laws, statutes, commandments & Judgments.

I don't observe christmass because it is the customs of the pagans.
I don't observe Easter because it is the customs of the pagans.
I don't observe January 1st because it is the customs of the pagans.
I don't observe anything pagan customs anymore.

You gave a typical "ruler" reply to the bloodofthelamb "how effective have you been following his sayings" question. Do you see what is missing in your replies? Do you see that what is lacking in the replies, can cost one inheriting eternal life?

luvmijeje:
MuttleyLaff, I can boldly say the 2019 Lagos State gubernatorial debate is the best gubernatorial debate I have ever watched. It was fun, passionate, educative and generally insightful.

I'm happy you brought Gbadamosi to my awareness. He's good. He came prepared and did his homework very well. He's articulate and he's passionate. He's brilliant and he's clever. So was it enough to shift me? Nahhh. And I'll give you five reasons.

1. ADC has no platform yet to go toe to toe with APC.

2. If APC loses the presidential election in Lagos, ADC don't have men to tear down Tinubu. E.g Obasanjo

3. If APC loses the presidential election in Lagos, Gbademosi don't have the platform to bring opposition together against APC.

4. If APC loses the Presidential election in Lagos, Gbadamosi don't have the clout of Agbaje that will be be able to spread message underground of an imminent change of guard. Remember there will no campaign in those period.

5. If APC lose the Presidential election in Lagos, ADC will be a beautiful bride that will woo by the opposition and ruling party ahead of the gubernatorial election. Meaning ADC will leave Gbademosi left to dry out in the sun.

Please dunk Gbadamosi into Google and YouTube to get better acquainted with him because it is disheartening that you can admit you've just today first heard or known about Babatunde Olalere Gbadamosi.

I don't give a toss, who governs Lagos State, even if it's a monkey or an ass, inasmuch as it governs, delivers on its promises, alleviate the problems, hardships and ills plaguing Lagos State, I'll be a satisfied and happier person. Not asking for much, but just have someone in that would bootstrap Lagos State into the 21st century.
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naptu2 , I am late for work already, so leaving now, you'll have to continue updating without me chipping in. I'll catch later on the road or when back in

PS. Now talking of how to ease car or travel congestion using ferries or jetties

Disu trying to pin down Gbadamosi about who and who is participating in the colliation discussion, as in, is Agbaje involved too, but Gbadamosi, isnt moving ground and not giving in

naptu2:
Jimi Disu asked him if he is a builder. He said no. Disu then asked him what he studied.

He said that he studied law in Lasu, but he didn't finish. He had a traumatic experience that almost cost him his life.


He said he worked in the real estate sector in the UK and he listed other sectors that he worked in in the UK

You forgot to add that he worked also as a higly qualified IT consultant in the UK