₦airaland Forum

kkins25:
Haha. This man and his search engine for errors. To avoid the gaffe, according to muttleylaff, i should have elolborated more.
Firstly, center of gravity should have been in quotes. Or don't you agree that the clitoris is the most sensitive part of the female reproductive organ?

Now what i meant was and is- that the position of the clitoris makes it almost impossible to be stimulated by the penis through the "holy sex position" of so called God. A design flaw if you ask me.this is in response to your comment

My "What are you trying to say with this section? It is not clear." was not in relation to this section, the remark was directed at the Corinthians section bit, whereby you couldnt even reference the verse correctly omitting whether you are quoting first Corinthians or second Corinthians

You still are at it, making the same mistake, you still havent recognised that the clitoris is the equivalent of the peniis, and that the center of gravity is 2/3 inside the body of both the female and male. This is not a design flaw, it came about out from a deliberate design thinking. It is because you want a quick fix and dont want to work, that you revert to giving head, this thing is a marathon baby, not a sprint, stop taking short cuts. Ah, God help you because giving head is not for everybody, God help you if you have cuts in your mouth, and there is accessible entry to wander into the bloodstteam through the cuts. Do you want me to go on, do you want me to share more on the male and female G-spots?

kkins25:
On "God has forced men to use their tongue to obey his commandment" ;
Corinthians 7;4-5 The center of gravity on the other hand is even less likely to be stimulated by the penis also through the "holy sex position of God". After all, most women don't know what orgasm is. However if we go by the devil's way and utilise the mutually existing doggy style, then we might be getting somewhere. Still the clitoris would likely not get the attention it craves. Hence my mockery of the book of Corinthians 7:4.

It is Gods law that the man should satisfy his wife's sexual needs(Corinthians 7;4). My comment "God has forced men to use their tongue to obey his commandment" on Corinthians 7:4 was actually saying that in order for men to satisfy the cravings of the clitoris men are been forced to use their tongue in place of the penis. I was messing around, Pardon me.
We must thank lucifer(if he even exists) or more accurately Azazel and his league of angels for the sex education he came down with from the heavens.
Since you happen to know what God thinks could you tell us why God decided to place those center of gravity in positions where the penis can hardly reach?

Pastoraio that's not what I was referring to. However,if God's(yaweh) system of government only nourished hypocrisy in the hearts of men. Dont you agree? He himself acknowledges it. Thanks to the verse you quoted.
I've always wondered why Solomon-even after all the wisdom stil fell out of grace.

It is this section my "What are you trying to say with this section? It is not clear." was in relation to and my remark directed at

Ihedinobi3:
You are completely free to make your own arguments and conclusions, MuttleyLaff. I have no problems with that. What you are not free to do is to put words in my mouth. I object to that. If your summary attributed to me misrepresents what I said, I will disassociate myself from it without much more than a courteous explanation.

Ihedinobi3, if at all, others should think we are falling out, you out all people should know, there is no way we are. I completely agree with all you said, I have no problems at all seeing where you are coming from with your replies to ChiefAzubuike and her original post, but, at least, please, please and without you saying it isnt fruitful, tell and answer these following questions now:
1/ Will you say the bible teaches that, one will be indicted for lying, if the lie wouldnt have or hasnt a harmful effect on your neighbour?
2/ What harmful effect on the armed robbers, is there, when both couple in order to save the wife from being raped, lied that the wife is on her monthly period?
3/ Does the bible not state, be wise as serpents, but harmless as dove?
4/ If they werent "fellow believers", what would you recommend, advise, or expect the couple to do in their circumstance they found themselves in?
5/ Would you advise, the couple tell the truth, then the wife, in a quiet, gentle and submissive manner, roll over on her back and let the armed robbers take their turns, one after the other with her, just like that?

bloodofthelamb:
Hell is for those who believe not in Jesus Christ.
It is not necessarily because they are sinners for we all are before Christ. As it written no one is righteous, no not one. All of us like sheep went astray. They will perish because they refuse to realize that they are powerless in keeping the law and hence, needs a saviour.

Me liked.
What you typed summed up there is the classic, dont concerntrate at the pointing finger, but look at what the finger is pointed at. Jesus answereth all things is what the finger is pointing at. Jesus is the answer for all things. The commands of Jesus, the belief in Jesus will get you out of jail free.

MuttleyLaff:
ChiefAzubuike, this is summarising in a sentence all what Ihedinobi3 has outlined. You wouldnt be indicted for lying, if the lie wouldnt have an undesired harmful effect on your neighbour

Ihedinobi3:
This summary is not what I am saying at all. The summary is that the Bible teaches that lying to save the lives of fellow believers is blessed.

Will you please respect and stay within the parameters of that photo? There has been no mention of believers in the photo capture narrative, it was generic, so will require a generic response without introducing "fellow believers"
Please tell and answer these following question plase:
1/ Will you say the bible teaches that, one will be indicted for lying, if the lie wouldnt have or hasnt a harmful effect on your neighbour?
2/ What harmful effect on the armed robbers, is there, when both couple in order to save the wife from being raped, lied that the wife is on her monthly period?
3/ Does the bible not state, be wise as serpents, but harmless as dove?
4/ If they werent "fellow believers", what would you recommend, advise, or expect the couple to do in their circumstance they found themselves in?
5/ Would you advise, the couple tell the truth, then the wife, in a quiet, gentle and submissive manner, roll over on her back and let the armed robbers take their turns, one after the other with her, just like that?

budaatum:
God, having created the entire universe, decides to create man, but only after creating a garden. God teaches these people to take care of his farm for food and shelter but of the Godsfruit, they must not touch or he'll kill them! And your's truly they do. So God gets the funk, and sacks them, "escort them off the premises please and don't come back!"
"Hey, hold on, you said they'd die!" I say. I go back to where it's said, point at it. "See", " they'd die". But of course it's words in a book. It's not as if a "ah, ok, I'll just kill them" was going to pop on to the page with the words rearranged though it was worth considering considering how folks about me treated the book.
The copy I was reading was an immaculate white one ma got given when she'd married which I'd stolen from where she keeps emergency money and jewelry. It was wrapped in velvet, placed in a box, wrapped in a cloth, locked in a suitcase in a locked cupboard in her locked bedroom when I took it. A book thief was bad. Then a money thief had taken the money that had been there when I stole her Bible and she was yelling all over the place. Stole the Bible, stole the money, I is dead! To a lot of others at the time, it was treated equally valuable, the whole family
could had the one, not like now when everyone's got one or so many and all the others on their phone.

I look up and see there's always gods, Even if there aren't gods there'll always be controllers - cause that's what a god who keeps the godfruits to itself is. And those controllers want to keep all the godfruit to themselves and pay everyone else just food and board because by keeping them subservient they can better exploit them.

I look further and find it is not as I thought it was, the gods were not paying food and board, the bloody gods were in fact taking the sweat off people's brows. And then I find they use to even put chains round their necks sell people for slave work! It's then I understand what is meant when some say God wrote the Bible.

Many who have had that understanding got it from the Bible, and if someone hadn't written what God did in the Garden of Eden, I wouldn't have eyes wide enough to get that understanding. I had read the New Testament prior to starting the old thanks to Gideons who made it widely available, so it helped some of it fall in place. Depends how you read it, is my point. Many get to hear meanings of the story before they've read it and by such, a way of seeing it is imposed. If you read it as a child would read it, as was advised, you might have seen it in a different way too.

Controllers don't pay food and board anymore. Now you pay their food and board, Gucci shoes, Armani suits and jet fuel willingly too! Exploitation by exploiters has drastically changed for the worst.

I get to the fourth chapter, and Cain murders Abel, and I'm thinking, when did all this happen, I'm on to a good one here, and that's when I began reading the Bible aged 8. For the next 5 years, it was my go back to book whenever I was out of James Hadley Chase or anything else till I'd finished it. I never would have read it if I hadn't read it then.

Do you remember what you first thought when you first read the creation myth in Genesis?

Yes, in the original text when God said, thou shall surely die, the remark has the meaning translated as you will die a slow death, you definitely will begin the process of deterioration. Everything, over time, will begin going down and looking south. At the end of the deterioration and organ failings comes and awaits death.

The mortality clock came alive and started to tick from after the lunge at the fruit and subsequent eating of it

Me liked but just make sure "I Am Taking Up Religion. by budaatum: 9:44pm On Jan 14" is a religion that has no faults in it, a religion you cant fault or is a religion that is faultless.

Ihedinobi3:
First, if you essentially falsely insinuated that budaatum was lying about her gender, then that is definitely something you should apologize for or own up to.

Second, the Bible does not teach that gender will be done away with. It only teaches that Salvation in Christ Jesus makes no difference between male and female. Everyone is equally offered Salvation. Everyone has an equal chance to win the greatest eternal rewards. Gender, race and culture do not impede anyone's choices.

Dont read too much into what style budaatum types with and/or posts in.

Now let me ask you these following questions:
1/ What is your fascination with budaatum's gender, with whether budaatum is male or female?
2/ Have you evidence that budaatum is not male but is something otherwise?
Have you any shred of proof of budaatum saying he is female?
3/ Where have you read me say budaatum is lying about his gender?
4/ Is it a crime, to use words that invokes and/or appeals to one's opposite gender side?
5/ If gender is not going to be done away with, is procreation going to be a never ending thing?
6/ If there are no male or female angels, what kind of new bodies do you envisage, is being promised?

Just let sleeping dogs lie, leave things as they are, as I said, you'll soon adequately get used to budaatum's many idiosyncrasies

Ihedinobi3:
I don't understand. Do you know the moniker to have ever identified as male?

Does it matter what pronoun budaatum decides to use for himself, afterall at the end of time, there'll be no male or female, for all are one in Christ Jesus.

frosbel2:


Oh common - tell me you are more mature than the nonsense you just wrote up there ( bolded )

I knew you'll be selective again in your reading my remark about "Others' replies, prove my response to be right, that the question(s) cannot be given a binary answer to. Also that it is important to know that, especially in the West, decisions taken to go the route of abortion are invariably informed and usually responsible ones." and rather choose to come up with the above

Oh please tell me, you dont have your demons. Ask budaatum, he'll tell you everyone has demons

Ihedinobi3:
You are female then, aren't you? I wondered what was going on when MuttleyLaff insisted that you're a man.

You'll soon get adequately used to budaatum, especially for example, when he awakes his anima and talks of his feminine side when making a point

frosbel2:
Others answered the questions posed, you are busy labelling me with the devil tag
smh

Others replies prove my response to be right, that the question(s) cannot be given a binary answer to. Also that it is important to know that, especially in the West, decisions taken to go the route of abortion are invariably informed and usually responsible ones.

If the cap fits, wear it, when I typed the devil knows how to quote the Bible, especially when busy asking trick and indicting questions. You are at liberty to selectively read what you want to read and/or ignore remarks that don't fit your agenda. You know what, your demons don't sleep under your bed, they sleep inside your head.

ChiefAzubuike:
As seen from the internet.

Ihedinobi3:
Hi there.

I am a Christian committed to following the Bible wherever it goes.

This question may be serious or it may just be a game, I don't know. But I answer whatever I can that may be of value to someone seeking to understand the Bible.

There are a few instances in the Bible where lies were told to save lives, especially the lives of believers who were in danger. In each of those cases, the Lord God blessed those who lied.

There were the Hebrew midwives who refused to kill the newborn sons of Hebrew women (Exodus 1:15-21); Rehab of Jericho, a prostitute who lied to protect Hebrew spies who came to gather intelligence on the city (Joshua 2, 6:17, 22-23; Matthew 1:5); the woman of Bahurim who lied to protect David's two spies during Absalom's rebellion (2 Samuel 17:17-21). Only in the last case do we lack information on what God did for them as a result of their goodwill toward His favored king.

It is obvious that such examples are rare in the Bible. This is because such situations where lying is sanctified by God are extremely rare in history. They are tests of faithfulness for those who experience it.

However, it may be necessary in cases like the above to protect one's wife with lying. Just like killing to defend oneself and one's family from criminals or killing in war to destroy enemies who threaten the peace of a nation. These are things the Bible does not prohibit.

ChiefAzubuike, this is summarising in a sentence all what Ihedinobi3 has outlined. You wouldnt be indicted for lying, if the lie wouldnt have an undesired harmful effect on your neighbour

Ranchhoddas:
It is your position nonetheless.

It is not my position. It is a position observed happening in nature. To any in gay relationships, it is a position that is natural to them. Their right to this behaviour, I respect inasmuch that they are easy going, caring consenting adults in a faithful, committed, loyal faithful, loving, sex same sex relationship that lasts a lifetime, has no betrayal or cheating of anyone, no harm to an object or neighbour

Ranchhoddas:
Is polygamy compatible with your religious views?

You know me by now, what my religion is. I also have already shared my views on polygamy. There is nothing evil or disgusting in polygamy, but personally it is not my cup of tea. I wouldn't necessarily desire polygamy on my worst enemy. I am not sure whether I had responded to the earlier Isaiah 4:1 verse, but if I haven't, it is related to my reply here, that says, desperate times requires desperate measures. It was similar desperate times during the period of the wars to spread Islam, that necessitated Mohammed to declare Muslims can have up to 4 wives, because of the dearth of men, due to few men being about due to being casualties of war and too many widows as a result of the same reason

Ranchhoddas:
It is. There was no code against polygamy as far as I know. I am listening if you have evidence otherwise.

We are free to do all things but not all things are profitable. Polygamy has more cons than pros.

1/ Will you be happy to share you partner with multiple men/women?

Ranchhoddas:
Just so I am not mistaken, what does the bold mean? Keeping up appearances?

Are you familiar with the phrase, "social smoker"?

Human being have the impulse to stray or have a fling. Some don't act out that impulse, some dont

Ranchhoddas:
Married: No
Second question: It's complicated.

Have you ever touched your partner in a particular part of her/his body, and suddenly discovered that your partner gets set off on ecstatic pleasure when touched at that particular part of the body. You never knew this before then but just stumbled upon it whilst exploring the body. That is just one simple instance of getting to know your partner, if you are all about just jumping in and going into your partner, you wouldn't notice the pleasure or take in anything like that. There are a gazillion and one things to find out and know. It will take you a lifetime to discover them all

Ranchhoddas:
The operative phrase is highlighted. There is no evidence that such relationships (eeeeewwwww...) fit that phrase.

You haven't been able to specifically say what is evil and/or what exactly is disgusting in and/or with same sex relationships.

frosbel2:
If a court judge sentences a person to death and the noose man carries it out on the basis of the guilt of that convict , it is not murder, it is called JUSTICE !!

Besides what does this have to do with the article ?

[s]Christians and circular arguments.
Jesus said ;
"Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ Anything more comes from the evil one " - Matthew 5:37 [/s]

You are at liberty to ignore where it was typed it is added to the mix to make it more exciting.

This is not a question that can be given a binary answer to. It is important to know that, especially in the West, decisions taken to go the route of abortion are invariably informed and usually responsible ones. Also the devil knows how to quote the Bible, especially when busy asking trick and indicting questions.

LordReed:
We die because the component parts of our body deteriorate. Why the deterioration may be tied to several factors including entropy, mutation, radiation, etc. Scientists are studying the process and are already proposing treatments that could reverse or stop the aging process that leads to death.

Ihedinobi3:
So we die because we die?

Interesting.

LordReed:
If that is how you understand it but I used the word deteriorate.

You're correct about deterioration because in the original text when God said, thou shall surely die, the remark has the meaning translated as you will die a slow death, you definitely will begin the process of deterioration. Everything, over time, will begin going and looking south. At the end of the deterioration and organ failings comes and awaits death.

frosbel2:
I was pondering this morning about murder , you know , with all the disturbing front page articles on murder and the gruesome pictures shown. I started thinking , how can people be so heartless and lacking in empathy to the extent of not just killing a fellow being but doing so in a manner that is savagely barbaric. These murderers must have mental health issues, anger problems or just plain evil built into their DNA.

Following this thinking, I began to wonder, but what about abortion, is it murder and if yes, is there a difference between a murderer who kills a grown man or woman, and someone who aborts a fetus.

Few things to consider about the Fetus

- The fetus is in a sort of oblivious state of being as it pertains to consciousness
- The fetus is not fully formed as a human being, so perhaps may not yet be a human being
- The fetus may be the result of a rape or unintended consequences ( such as intercourse between two careless people )
- The fetus may possess a deformity that if allowed to fully mature will result in a life of pain.


But there are some similarities between abortion and murder

- They are both premeditated
- They are both done for selfish reasons
- They both have expected and unintended consequences.

Considering this brief narrative, what do you think,

- Is abortion on the same level of evil as murder
- Is there a special case where abortion is permissible
- Is abortion is not murder regardless ?


Lets discuss

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HappyPagan

Let me throw this one too in the mix. The court judge and the hangman or noose man that carries out the judge's death sentence is that murder or not. At the end of the day, each one of us, needs the services of the best representative there is, to defend our corner for us and on our behalf explain the circumstances surrounding each and every thought, deed and actions we carried out

kkins25:
There is nothing I love more than see a Christian tell us why he thinks God did this or that. The way Christians can read God's mind even before he created humanity really baffles me. The female center of gravity(clitoris, which is the equivalent of the base of a males penis) is even in the wrong position.

The female center of gravity, clitoris according to kkins25, is not the equivalent of the base of a male's peniis, yet another gaffe made by kkins25

kkins25:
God has forced men to use their tongue to obey his commandment;
Corinthians 7;4-5
"The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does"

What are you trying to say with this section? It is not clear.

Ranchhoddas:
I doubt it was once. Be that as it may, the point remains -- use use anomalous gay animals to further your views.

Like I know and believe, it is just once, when as I said, I was preempting you, and trying to block you from using the line, sex same relationship is not found in nature.
You have diddly squat evidence of me using it more than once with you and you know it

Ranchhoddas:
You must not miss the point -- The overwhelming majority of animals are philanderers. Thus, you must accept it or discard your view on homosexuality. You cannot have it both ways

Give me some credit, remember what I typed: "I have no reservation on polygamy, considering that, the arrangement is between consenting adults, and the additional party is an adult, under no duress, no coersion and no disadvantage financial or otherwise, is in agreement to be part of a relationship that involves more than two original members and knowledge of the sexual relationship arrangement is mutually agreed upon by all parties involved."

Ranchhoddas:
They were all polygamous. Monogamy was imported. That's the long and short of my statement.

That is not absolutely true or correct though, and you know it

Ranchhoddas:
By way of digression, could you tell was Isaiah 4:1 is about? If you know that is.

It is no digression, as I have already tred that part in my ealier post here, that God's original plan is genetic monogamy, but then, God in His wisdom and by design, just with sex same attraction impulse, has given human beings social monogamy impulses that when acted upon, can lead to having multiple sexual partners or end up in polygamous arrangements.

Ranchhoddas:
You have no way of knowing what was in the beginning. Stop passing off Jewish fables as history.

Are you married? Are you in a steady relationship? If yes to either, do you already know everything about your partner? Even a lifetime is not enough to know about him/her, you each day know new things about him/her, you each day discover new things they didnt first know about him/her. Sorry Ranchhoddas, it has nothing to do with Jewish fables

If you really believe in: There is no virtue in abstaining from something that is perfectly natural -- A wise man., please explain or tell how this means in relation to same sex relationship and multiple partner relationships

Ranchhoddas:
Are you denying that you use homosexual animals to further you pro-gay views?

You typed he "likes". How many times has MuttleyLaff liked to use homosexual animals to further you pro-gay views? Produce each and everytime Muttleylaff liked to use homosexual animals to further you pro-gay views. I am quite sure it was used only one time and that was to prevent you from taling the stand that homosexual behaviour doesnt existbin nature. This and the context of the remark, you surely cant deny Ranchhoddas

Ranchhoddas:
And then? The fact is that the overwhelming majority of animals are not monogamous. Surely this is no accident.

That both should have not known better, as in the original poster sagitariusbaby and the original author, Chief Tola Adeniyi, a former MD of daily times, that pigeons are not just the only monogamous animals that exists but they really are socially monogamous creatures, that occassionally do sow their wild oats. The ignorance of the original author and poster that pasted his opinon here is a choice

Ranchhoddas:
Strangely, our ancestors did not have these "impulses" you speak of. The impulses came with colonialism, Christianity, the Bible, Jesus Christ and all the baggage. How come our northern Alhajis do not seem to have these impulses

I have spoken of two impulses, so how do you mean our ancestors did not have these "impulses" you speak of?. Both impulses are in every human being, before the advent of colonialism, Christianity, the Bible, Jesus Christ on earth and all the baggage. Each and everyone of us including our northern Alhajis, from the beginning and up till now have these impulses.

Ranchhoddas:
I have always said it that monogamy is unnatural.
I did not know that pigeons are the only monogamous creatures.

Since Muttleylaff likes to use animal homosexuality as a point when trying to defend the the anomaly that is same-sex relationships. I wonder what he would say here.

Over to you Muttley.

I know you'll be unable to reproduce here verbatim all the times MuttleyLaff allegedly likes to use animal homosexuality, as a point when trying to defend the anomaly that is same-sex relationships, so please retract your statement that's giving false and/or misleading account of the context and nature of what MuttleyLaff wrote.

The original poster and his intro post couldnt even get the facts right. The information that the pigeon is the only monogamous creature, is not only just incorrect, but also the failure to realise that pigeons actually are socially monogamous creatures.

Now, if, Ranchhoddas, is passing the buck over MuttleyLaff, then I'll say that, God's original plan is genetic monogamy, but then, God in His wisdom and by design, just with sex same attraction impulse, has given human beings social monogamy impulses that when acted upon, can lead to having multiple sexual partners or end up in polygamous arrangements.

Personally, handling and balancing one relationship is enough for me than trying to, with another, perfect the art of juggling. Genetic monogamy, as best as when can, at it, whether in a heterosexual relationship or same sex relationship, gives peace of mind, trust, assurance, is an expression of commitment and undivided faithfulness, declaration of undiving love and attention, expression of loyalty and faithfulness to one person, is a display of restraint and show of strong self discipline etcetera

I have no reservation on polygamy, considering that, the arrangement is between consenting adults, and the additional party is an adult, under no duress, no coersion and no disadvantage financial or otherwise, is in agreement to be part of a relationship that involves more than two original members and knowledge of the sexual relationship arrangement is mutually agreed upon by all parties involved.

It takes a lifetime to know somebody, that is why genetic monogamy, in the first place and in the beginning, was
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cococandy:
You people will say just about anything to justify your roving peniises

Are you minding OP and Ranchhoddas

BLACKdagger:
Pls my dear reasonable Nigerians.
If u are among people shouting Sowore pls think twice Sowore cannot win.
wake up and tell urself the truth.
If u think u can vote Sowore and then balance in front of ur TV and watch him declared the president of Nigeria then u need to have ur Brain checked.

There are other hidden games behind election which Sowore dont know and can't fight.
Only Atiku who has been there can take that hidden fight with buhari.
Pls do not let buharists deceive u, they are among those shouting "vote Sowore"
Do not waste ur vote, A vote for Sowore is vote for buhari.

Yes u can say buhari and Atiku are devils,
But we can't deny the fact that Atiku is a better devil...
Pls a word is enuff for the wise

There is nothing that comes from above that the earth cannot take. All these tactics, that there are hidden games, you dont know about and cant fight are successfully being used to emasculate and undermine the aspirations of any with visions of seeing or working for a better Nigeria on its feet and at full potential

Owlumeday:
A vote for Atiku is a waste cos even if he wins he wont deliver a dime.. Just business as usual for pdp..

Dont mind BLACKdagger, the journey of a thousand miles began with the first step of educating all the people in Nigeria who are entitled to vote in the election and/or sensitising PVC carrying voters that they have no business of choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Youths can make can make a difference of the outcome of the 2019 February 16th election because more than 60% of Nigeria's population are aged below 25. With political fortitude and if no compromises, the right candidate with clear cut and spelled out digital ideas of how to transform the the country, alleviate poverty, turn the country into a construction site thereby give rise to mass employment, tackle the epileptic power supply problem with 21st century innovative solution etcetera will win but then, if people prefer another 4 years of between the devil and the deep blue sea, well, what more I can say than just, as you lay your bed ....

Ranchhoddas:
Muttleylaff you don hear?

Who has bewitched us Nigeria?
The elitists and the corruptible biased media outlets who are all indifferent to the hardship, throngs of sufferring, woes and the unfortunate conditions of the common man, have seared their conscience and sold the country and its citizenry down the river.

Nigeria is at a crossroads, at an opportunity watershed moment, where and when we can take our destiny into our own hands, but the youths that ought to know better, the youths that should see visions, arent seeing nada, but, for crumbs on the table and floor, they have camped tent with the elitists and corruptible elements shafting the whole nation. They are pitching tents with those who once they get in power again, will turn blind eyes to acts of stealing the country blind
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Ranchhoddas:
Jerry Rawlings does not know squat about the complexities of the Nigerian state. You should know better.

These are all the excuses they keep giving. Even if I provide you the various YouTube video links of him talking about how he will pay the money, where the money is coming from etcetera, I doubt you'll be moved by them. Who has bewitched us in Naija?

Ranchhoddas:
SMH.
How would he pay the money?
You no gree answer.
How many northern votes can he get. Am I going to galvanize northerners too? Baba wake up.
I've not camped with anyone. God forbid.
I've camped tent with REALITY. That's hard for you to accept apparently.
Idealism is good in theory. It's not practicable. Sorry.

Jerry Rawlings is right afterall, when he told Sowore, that Nigerians are in love with their oppressors.
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Ranchhoddas:
They are the only REALISTIC options.

Pray tell, where would he get the money to multiply a very large chunk of our recurrent expenditure by five? Unproductive civil servants money na im you want increase. Na wa.
We already have to borrow to service our budget.

I have seen enough to know he's a populist and nothing more.

This is the only choice you have. Nigerians vote along ethnic lines. How many northern votes can he get? Wake up and smell the tea.

You should know better, but you have camped tent with elitists and the corruptible biased media outlets who are indifferent and willing to sell the country and its citizenry down the river. Instead you, us and all, to galvanise and sensitise the electorates not to chose between the devil and the deep blue sea but to shine their eyes and grab their destiny with their two hands, change the bath water for fresh and new one

Ranchhoddas:
What else is new?
He's going the way of all campaigners. Atiku is promising jobs, Buhari is promising next level.
Na today?
That he is saying 100k minimum wage tells me he has no idea how nations develop. Apparently you also do not. This is just populism. 100k minimum wage is very unrealistic in a country that is as unproductive as ours. He might as well promise to send a Nigerian to Mars in the next four years.

With the situation of things none of these things can be achieved in four years regardless of who is in power.
You should know better than falling for this kind of talk.
In my view, only Fela Durotoye has shown that he actually has an idea of how to develop Nigeria.

As often as I can manage.
Last week.
Two weeks ago.

I am advocate of taking the plunge. Life is a risk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ7Oba3slF4
Wahala dey. Between the devil and the deep blue sea. I dey laugh

Allegedly the biggest and fastest growing economy in the sub-Saharan Africa, if not the whole of the continent, cant afford minimum living wage of 100K, whereas lesser African countries are. SMH. What a shame.

Do you know what SPICER-HEAT is?
You are talking about Fela Durotoye but have you watched any TV interviews of or looked and heard of Action Congress (AAC) and/or Sowore manifesto yet?

IamPlato:
Una wicked o. Una Come Turn My Thread To Political Campaign ground

You will be wicked and in a worse situation, if you allow the choice of the devil and the deep blue sea to win the election come February 16th 2019. Do you have a PVC at all, if you're reading my comment?
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9inches:
h t t ps://youtu.be/sWbj-2DRLps

"And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming,
“Yahweh! The LORD! the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness,"
- Exodus 34:6

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassions, and God of all comfort,"
- 2 Corinthians 1:3

"When He saw the crowds, He was moved with compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd."
- Matthew 9:36

"And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed their sick."
- Matthew 14:14

"Moved with compassion, Jesus touched their eyes; and immediately they regained their sight and followed Him."
- Matthew 20:34

"Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."
- Ephesians 4:32

"Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:"
- 1 Peter 3:8

"Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience."
- Colossians 3:12

"When the Lord saw her, he felt compassion for her. He told her, "You can stop crying.""
- Luke 7:13

"Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant (e.g. others, in a faithful lifelong same sex relationships) even as I had pity on thee?"
- Matthew 18:33

"The LORD replied, "I will make all my goodness pass before you, and I will call out my name, Yahweh, before you. For I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose."
- Exodus 33:19

"And of some have compassion, making a difference:"
- Jude 1:22

I really dont know what beef you have with my comment that stirred you up to go dig up this YouTube video and paste it against my remark.

I've intensely thought it over in mind why and what your reason(s) are but still cant put my finger on what specifically is it I posted that set you off and triggered you to reply to my "Ehn ehn... you're getting me now
"Do to others as you'd have them do you" is all about doing not what is evil, doing not what is wicked. It is about doing good, it is about empathy and/or compassion. The giving or showing of, has no barrier, no predijuce, no discrimination, no hatery, no etcetera" remark

Notwithstanding the evidences, that God is Compassionate and Jesus demonstrated this nature with examples of showing,having and giving compassion, the bible too categorically tells of example of empathy and compassion. The bible, in James 1:27, gives us a flavour or taste of what compassionate religion pleases God the Father. The verse openly announced and formally asserted the type of compassion or empathy seen as genuine, pure and faultless. It implores you must help needy orphans and widows and not let this world make you evil (i.e. just like and agreeing with I earlier said with "... all about doing not what is evil, doing not what is wicked" remark)

We all are familiar with the story told by Jesus, about a traveler who fell into the dastardly hands of robbers and got stripped of clothing, beaten and left half dead alongside the road.

Notice, the priest (i.e. pastor or the Daddy G O or Bishop) and the Levite (i.e. the choirmaster or usher or church worker) featured in that story, switched off the "compassion, empathy, sympathy, consideration and/or sensitiveness" innate behaviour button, bet they even justified the reason for doing so, excuses, like I'll be contaminated, be made impure if I touch a dead body or I'll be late for attending the "church" activity

The priest was going down the road the man was left for death on, but when the priest saw the man, he crossed over the path and went passed the beaten man on the other side. So too, the Levite, when the Levite came to same spot and saw him, he passed by him, by crossing on the other side of the road too.

You wouldnt have expected that it will be the priest (i.e. bishop/pastor/GO) and levite (i.e. church worker/usher/chorister) who will look the other way and pass on by on the other side, but alas, it is a Samaritian who transcended, rose to the occasion and attended someone else with compassion.

Just in that popular narrative given by Jesus, some just dont have it anymore in them, to switch it on.
Some have become desensitized, some have misjudged priorities.
Some are selective to whom and/or when to show or give "compassion, empathy, sympathy, consideration and/or sensitiveness" to
Some dont know when its right to show and/or give "compassion, empathy, sympathy, consideration and/or sensitiveness"

The bible makes it very clear and has enough demonstrations on examples of what true, pure and faultless religion is. It is an activity centred around showing and/or giving "compassion, empathy, sympathy, consideration and/or sensitiveness" to others.

Kei144:
He asks for sowing of seed in every email. Even though I have not been able to sow any seed in a very long time, he has not cut off from me. Not sowing seed to him does not prevent him from ministering to me. And he is able to see details of my life.

Thank you for your honest and quick without delay reply. No further questions, your honor.

Kei144:
I saw Master Prophet Bernard Jordan's advert on the Internet about two years ago and I contacted him. Since then he has been sending prophetic word to me every day. He is definitely an extra-ordinary prophet.

Today, Master Prophet Bernard Jordan sent to me an email containing his prophetic word as usual. When I looked into the prophetic word, I was startled by this message:

There shall be growth in spring, maturation in summer, harvest in autumn and storage in winter.

I can say with a degree of certainty that the great end-time revival will commence by new moon of April this year. The 144,000 Israelites will arise and commence their end-time ministry. The above message that I saw in Master Prophet Bernard Jordan's prophetic word agrees with the new moon of April timetable and it rhymes with the end time prediction that I made in 2017, which failed.

The message in Master Prophet Bernard Jordan's prophetic word raises a strong possibility of rapture by winter 2019.

Please confirm whether or not "Prophet" E. Bernard Jordan has, in your email conversations with him, begun to ask you for money yet?

Ranchhoddas:
Talk is cheap. I've also heard him promise 55k minimum wage. Ridiculous. He like most people does not understand how nations develop

Now that you are given proof of him saying he will turn the country into a building site, you changed your tune to talk is cheap. Abi?.
Wrong. 100K for federal workers it is. You'll be surprised he and the wealth of experience experts he has in his team does

Ranchhoddas:
He won't. Surely you know this by now.

We can shape our destiny, by not chosing between the devil and the deep blue sea for another 4 years of misery, sufferings, disappointments, hardship, poverty, homelessness, epileptic power supply, exorbitant PAYG electric charges, death trap roads, pathetic health care facilities, falling and failing education standards, mass unemployment, insecurity etcetera

Ranchhoddas:
I do not understand your use of the word "flutter" in this sentence.

Have a flutter, means to place or play a bet. So how often do you place bets, when was the last time and the one before the last time?
You dont advise people to play bets with money they cant miss or cant afford to lose
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Ranchhoddas:
Why do think Sowore is ready to turn Nigeria into a construction site? He told you so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2-B9m3J2kM
Yes he did and on several occasions repeated it.
Watch the above YouTube video from 8:40 straight through and past 12:30 mark for an instance of him repeating it

Ranchhoddas:
Be realistic. Sowore would not win, so a vote for him is as good as voting for Buhari

Youths can make him the winner of 2019 February 16th election because more than 60% of Nigeria's population are aged below 25. With political fortitude and if no compromise, he will win but then, if people prefer another 4 years between the devil and the deep blue sea, well, what I can say than as you lay your bed ....

Ranchhoddas:
This is wrong. He is likelier to win. At worst it's a coin flip. This is a calculated risk.

Though I doubt you're a betting person yourself, but I'll still ask, when was the last time you had a flutter?.
PS: No need to wonder, it's back over to you on the other thread

Ranchhoddas:
Use 5k try 2 odds.

IamPlato:
I De Find 5k and You Want Me To Use 5k to Bet... Bros You Wicked Sha

If all you guys lamenting all over the site that there is no money know what is best for youse and the country, you'll garner support for African Action Congress (AAC) and Sowore to be President, who is ready to turn the country into a construction site. You know the implication of this right? Money go Behind, go blow yafunyafun be dat.

Ranchhoddas:
Fortune favours the brave.

I'll take that over this begi begi that you are doing all over the place.

You are savage to recommend him to participate in something he is more likely to lose than win. It doesnt matter how sweet the odds are or how much its says he'll win, fortune only favours the brave doing calculated risk, and besides, you only place odds on money you wouldn't miss or mind losing

budaatum:
9! Did I say that, or can you just not live life honestly and without making up untruths?

Anyway, last night, I believed we will all wake up this morning, and I now believe we all did. Unless you know of one of us who is still asleep.

budaatum, what you believed that we will all wake up this morning is false though, I know my neighbour is still asleep and doesnt at all wake before lunch time

PastorAIO:
Incest can result in deformed babies na.
Nobody wants that.

I didnt want to spell it out to Ranchhoddas, that's why I said to him "Are you honestly asking me this? Or you are messing about feigning ignorance?" and further added "Of course, you know why incentous relationship was stopped by God, but if not, at least, you know why science enlightens us of the harmful and unpleasant affect effect of it."

Deformities or disabilities of some sort, are the running risks of inbreeding. Scientific studies show that Pakistani families who buy into their tradition of cousins marrying each other have higher rate of genetic disabilities than those who dont.

Ranchhoddas:
I know this. My problem with that guy is that he wants to allow for gay relationships with doing same for incestuous ones and he uses the Bible as his anchor.

Ranchhoddas, you have no problem with me, however you do have a problem stomaching two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour

There is nowhere in the bible where there is an opposition to two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour, however, the bible which you arent a big fan of but suddenly have taken a shine to, emphatically is opposed and against incestuous relationship.

This same incestous relationship, you've taken a liking to, is a betrayal of another person's trust, the dad. It hasnt the consent of the dad, the union hasnt the blessing of the dad and most importantly, God finds the incestous relationship, you're championing and making arguments with disgusting

Ranchhoddas, I have asked you umpteenth times, what is the problem, what is the evil in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour, you say is disgusting, so I further asked how do you mean disgusting, what exactly "patoo" is disgusting. At which, you you replied: "Disgusting is not an ambiguous word. What is there to explain? Two men going at each other is disgusting. I hate typing that. Don't make me do it again." but you couldnt, you can't say what exactly is disgusting in/with two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour. You couldnt say why two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour is disgusting?

God has no where and never said two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour is disgusting but God does say that incestous relationship is disgusting

PastorAIO:
Heterosexuals can die as a result of complications associated with hetero sex.

Dont mind HellVictorinho, he just wanted to be truculent for truculent sake.

Michellekabod1:
That's the most disgraceful teaching that a Christian could bleat out.

It is disgraceful that teaching(s) Christians thought were right, actually is wrong

Michellekabod1:
Almost threw up reading you both chat.

I am going to hazard a guess, that, you dont support two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour, so intriguingly asking, when, where and what part exactly almost made you throw up?

Michellekabod1:
Why can't the Bible be accepted fully (all the leaves of the holy book)?

Exactly my sentiments Why cant the bible be accepted truly on what it really and actually wrote about. Instead of stirring up a storm with prejudices and dislikes of "two men going at each other ..." why not stop retreating from reality and begin to acknowledge the biblical truths and facts

Michellekabod1:
Why must scriptures be intepreted to suit one's subjective opinions?

The problem with remarks like this, is that it is superfluous. There is no need to use subjective and opinion(s) together in the same sentence. You would have been OK, if you had said subjective thinking.

This whole thing about same sex relationship stems from the problem that not many people know the difference between a fact and an opinion. Ranchhoddas because of his personal feelings, preference, taste, emotions and delicate sensibilities has formed an opinion based on those and also from being ill-informed, has categorically, come to say: "Two men going at each other is disgusting."

Opinions can never changes facts, opinions don't ever affect facts, but realising the fact(s) can and would change opinion(s). If you are knowledgeable, well informed, biblically literate, open-minded, unprejudiced, undogmatic, non-discriminatory, tolerant and aware of the truth and facts, this will change your opinion or subjective thinking on the matter that there is something wrong with or in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour

All I have ever shared with Ranchhoddas are facts. They are not ordinary facts, but better still, each and everyone of the shared information are biblical and extra-biblical provable facts. The Bible is very clear in that, God said He has major big time problems with incentous relationships and stipulated death penalties, making a pariah of and laid curses on any caught up in doing them, but the bible has not, God for a moment, say He has a problem with two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour

Ranchhoddas:
I've been wondering same.
Muttleylaff over to you.

Read above for my replies, then return back here, to the below questions, asking you Ranchhoddas:
1/ Without being vague in your reply, what specifically is disgusting in two lifelong caring partners, faithful, love each other, truthful, honest men, going at each other, that are consenting adults, in a faithful, committted, loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?.
2/ Without you prevaricating, why specifically are two lifelong caring partners, faithful, love each other, truthful, honest men, going at each other, that are consenting adults, in a faithful, committted, loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour exactly disgusting?
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