Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- Its Contradictions And Inconsistencies by Myer(op): 2:41pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: Jesus Christ is the word of God. He is also the truth. God is true.
The bible is a book that contains the word of God. The Bible is not God' word. Hmm. Without the bible would you have know about Jesus Christ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 2:38pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
Maximus69: True Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) only believe in the code of conduct set by the first century Christians! Act 15:28-29
That's why we totally differ from all of them. You often argue in support of the spirit talking or dealing with people individually, and when i told you that's a lie you start insulting us saying JWs has been brainwashed. Is it not the same reason we stick to what the book says rather than listening to deceptive spirit? 
Obafemi Awolowo and Nnamdi Azikiwe were the most respected in the southern part of Nigeria during their lifetime, during Nigerias independent both of them said they can only allow JWs to pray for Nigeria in behalf of Christianity!
Go and ask anybody, tell them a JW said so on Nairaland! 
Of course the North came to pray in behalf of Muslims but for the Christians they have to write a letter to our branch to come and pray during Nigeria's independent. This was against our rules so the branch wrote a letter to Brooklyn our headquarters in New York, that's when the organization said our brothers should pray since that's what they demanded and that's a sign that they know the truth but afterwards our brothers should not partake in whatever follows!
Go now and ask anybody if it's a lie! 
So know today that when it comes to uprightness, JWs come first! Matthew 5:13-16  If that's true then that's commendable. But you do realise that Awolowo was an atheist. Perhaps your organisation started well but today it has also been overtaken by the morally bankrupt. I know JW members who were either sacked or had to resign either due their laziness or breaking simple company laws that even unbelievers abide by. My issue with you has always been to educate to know that Christianity is not denominational. It is, according to the bible a personal matter. Although some denominations do teach heresy. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- Its Contradictions And Inconsistencies by Myer(op): 2:31pm On Jun 20, 2020*. Modified: 6:35pm On Jul 10 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- Its Contradictions And Inconsistencies by Myer(op): 2:24pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
DappaD: Jehovah's Witnesses have enough Biblical reasons to believe that Jesus became ruling as King of God's Kingdom in heaven in the year 1914 (Revelation 12:7-12) If you look closely at verses 9 and 10, we see two events occurring simultaneously, first the permanent expulsion of Satan and the demons from heaven to the earth and then Jesus Christ being crowned as King of God's Kingdom. These two events have already taken place in 1914. So what significant event happened in 1914 that prompted this belief. Since it seems the devil had been banished to earth ever since the beginning of time. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- Its Contradictions And Inconsistencies by Myer(op): 2:11pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
DappaD: One thing is clear here, I can't keep going further with this discussion because you have no idea about Bible chronology  Typical. Instead of running away, why not share your chronology here and let's put it to the test. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- Its Contradictions And Inconsistencies by Myer(op): 2:03pm On Jun 20, 2020*. Modified: 6:33pm On Jul 10 |
DappaD: Every post from you just reveals how shallow you are concerning the scriptures 
Revelation 12:12 has no relation whatsoever with Ephesians 6:12 
Revelation 12:7-12 talks about the permanent expulsion of Satan and his fallen angels from heaven and their permanent confinement to the earth.
Whereas in Paul's letter to the Christian congregation in Ephesus, he wrote: “because we have a struggle[wrestling], not against blood and flesh, but against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places . ” Ephesians 6:12
The bolded is talking about the powerful wicked spirit beings, namely, Satan and his band of demons. The italicized “heavenly places” is talking the place/means in which Satan and the demons exercise power and authority from which means the demonic forces under Satan's control influence the world governments and on mankind in general, so figuratively speaking “heavenly places” mean all the worldly governments. 1John 5:19 |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- Its Contradictions And Inconsistencies by Myer(op): 1:29pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
jcross19: see truly there are contradictions in the bible but these your verses are not part of them , you did not understand the bible scenario!!!. Share your own verse. |
Politics › Re: Biafra: Asari Dokubo Blasts Nnamdi Kanu by Myer(m): 1:21pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
Glorymax: Lies upon lie. MNK never made such statements nor urge his followers to do so. Asari, now I know that you can lie for Africa. This is the dumbest one from you that can make you lose even your closest admirers. Biafra is a free Nation with respect for human rights and religious freedom. If you have skeleton in your cupboard, that's the only thing that will keep you frightened. If you like don't listen to your people that have advised you to go and work with him, that's if you've repented of the accusation against you Who is the liar now? https://www.nairaland.com/3854640/igbo-man-attends-church-pastoredWhere is the respect for religious freedom? Your hatred has blinded you. You're worse than racists that's why you will remain the underdogs in Nigeria. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 1:15pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: @ hoopernikao I haven't replayed based on the evil
Believe me every body know what's right and what's wrong, otherwise Nigerian would have all killed each other before civilization, lions eat lions, and a rat will hide after stealing.
You are just arguing, not really discussing because I have already explained this, it's the same reason you haven't climbed a tall build and jump, even an animal won't do that.
Thieves run after stealing, they don't sit and wait for police to give them a ride home. But you will be surprised to know that Christian's, especially hyper-Grace Christian's believe nothing is wrong except you're convicted by the spirit. Meaning a christian lady can continue bleeping another woman's husband as long as she doesn't see anything wrong in it. She is no longer bound by laws but by the leading of the spirit. That's why most business owners trust muslims more than Christian's. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- Its Contradictions And Inconsistencies by Myer(op): 1:03pm On Jun 20, 2020*. Modified: 6:31pm On Jul 10 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible- Its Contradictions And Inconsistencies by Myer(op): 12:34pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
AeroplaneApple: The word of God is infallible and it's consistent... I asked you to do something simple. Quote a verse and I will show you another verse that contradicts it from the same bible. |
Christianity Etc › The Bible- Its Contradictions And Inconsistencies by Myer(op): 12:23pm On Jun 20, 2020*. Modified: 2:32pm On Jun 20, 2020 |
The bible like other religious sacred books is considered God's word and infallible. It has become needful to address the inconsistencies and contraditions in the bible.
Share a verse from the bible and I will show you another verse that contradicts it.
Cc Hoopernikao DappaD GRIMMJOE Muttleylaff |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 4:39pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: We should just open a new thread. Certainly. I'm still busy at the moment. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 4:38pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
Maximus69: Quality is the group having less than 9,000,000 members but have solved the problems causing hatred in places as vast as speaking over 2,020 languages!
Quantity is the groups having billions of members but have failed to unite their people!
Remember the famished kids in your pictures, none of them is a child of JWs. Because Quality effectively stopped hatred amongst the adherents while Quantify only gather them to continue killing one another!  But that's not what the bible teaches sir. If you only studied your bible ou will know that it has nothing to do with denomination, tribe, gender, race or any cult or organization. Romans 3:26-28 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Should I continue? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 4:08pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
DappaD: When you take the context of the Scriptures into consideration of where might seem to contradict, then you'll know that no where does it actually contradict Bible writers though inspired of God (2 Peter 1:20-21) wrote from their perspectives of situations of the events. There is no way two people can relate an event the same way. One may leave out some details the other will cover.
You rushing to conclude that the Bible contradicts itself shows you have some unresolved issues as regards believing in the Bible. Because if you truly wanted to know what the Bible says, you'll stick by it and find out what it is actually being portrayed. Be patient, I will painstakingly open a thread on this. But let me whet your appetite with this question; What is God's stance on Righteousness in the bible? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 3:12pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
DappaD: I'll assume you came to this conclusion because of random opinions of others. I don't think you've actually checked whether the Bible does contradict itself or not  I guess I will have to open a thread for Bible contradictions cos it would only further derail this thread. Until then google is your best friend. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 2:09pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
Maximus69: Your personal resolution on the Bible is well noted Sir.
What i'm asking you now is
how do you now distinguish right and wrong after you've resolved that the book in question contradicts itself?
After all you yourself said there are many ways to twist the interpretation of what's written in the book, so why arguing with me on my own interpretation when you're certain that everyone can interpret it to soothe themselves?  That's where comprehension and cognition comes to play. I can't teach you that. But that the bible says one thing in a verse and contradicts it in another verse can't be denied. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 1:51pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: The Bible is all talk, statements but no feat.
This Jehovah witness are the new set of Christians that couldn't let go, so they re invented the Bible to suit their taste and tailored it to their satisfaction.
If anything, JW is prove that humans are finally waking up, the next set of Christians won't accept heaven and afterlife, and the next won't accept the concept of Trinity, all these are just fancy stages to Atheism, it I'll happen. You're right about that. JW is just a very confused organization. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 1:42pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
Maximus69: So how do you correct one quoting it to back what he said, if you're sure the book is full of contradictions?  Seems I've over-estimated your IQ. Forgive me for that. Now I will start by defining my terms before using them in a sentence for you. Do you understand that so far? Contradiction: a combination of statements, ideas, or features which are opposed to one another. That the bible has contradiction means it teaches one thing in one verse and contradicts it in another verse. This is why you all keep arguing endlessly. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 12:26pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
Maximus69: My friend, which one you dey nah? 
You said Bible (God's holy inspired word) is full of contradictions, i said that's your own PERSONAL opinion. Now i cited Bible for my friend (who cherish and respect the Bible) you want to correct the application on a book that you (yourself o) said is full of contradictions! 
Please how do you justify the correct application if the book is truly confusing or contradicting? 
Well i'm certain that Rozz got the understanding otherwise she will not hesitate to ask, but for the benefit of other followers i'll break it down further.
Jesus is the best human who ever walked this planet {Isaiah 9:6} so for your information the man who labelled Jesus "good" made an understatement!
But why would Jesus refute such a statement?
It's because Jesus won't be that good if not for the one who taught him how to be good (GOD) {John 8:28} so in a nutshell the good attributes they noticed in Jesus is just a reflection of what his father (the one teaching him) possessed. Matthew 16:16
After noticing the good qualities in me, Rozz said "i can sense that you're a good man even though you seems not so friendly" immediately i refuted that because i knew the type of person i was before i met God's Organization, so after relating my experience, Rozz gave the glory to whom it truly belongs "The God of Jehovah's Witnesses" for transforming me! 
So if Jesus could say "no one is good but God" the practical application of that statement is "nobody can possess good qualities if such a person has no relationship with God (the epitome of goodness)" Galatians 5:22-23 Therefore how can a person refuting the existence of God be good? 
God bless you Sir!  Do you still deny that the bible has contradictions? Why do you keep arguing on the same bible both within and outside your denominations? I'm surprised you suddenly call the bible God's word when you yourself said portions of it are just Paul's letters and not to be taken seriously. Why do some Christians believe in hell fire and some don't? Yet both are quoting from the same bible. Why do some Christians believe a Christian can never sin and some believe Christians still sin? Yet both are quoting the same bible. Why do some Christians believe in speaking in tongues as a necessity and some don't? Why do some Christians believe in Trinity and some don't? Should I continue? I'll continue to correct your errors and naivety. Even though I don't believe the bible anymore both from personal experience and that of others, I still have enough knowledge to know what it teaches. I was both and Evangelist and a Foundation Class teacher before I realized the disparities in what we were teaching and reality. And how we kept convincing ourselves to keep having faith. Covid-19 continues to expose the scam we call Islam and Christianity daily. Some pastors and prophets even claim to dine with God, yet he revealed nothing to any of them. Still not one healing of COvid-19. They have even started insulting themselves all over the media. Any one can teach scriptures, but where is the Power? That's when excuses start. |
Islam › Re: How To Cure Masturbation Addiction In Islam by Myer(m): 10:29am On Jun 19, 2020 |
DennisEche: Very simple, just do this  This is the irony of religion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by Myer(m): 9:38am On Jun 19, 2020 |
Righteousness89: Leave Religion bro but embrace a relationship with JESUS CHRIST! That's what matters!
JESUS CHRIST is all you need in this life and in eternity! Are you ignorant or just plane stupid? Is embracing a relationship with Jesus Christ not a religion? Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. With the number of Christians we have, what has it done to help Nigeria? |
Romance › Re: Is She Using Me To Satisfy Her Sexual Needs?? by Myer(m): 9:30am On Jun 19, 2020 |
Chige777: Hello everyone. Please bear with me because this might be lengthy. I have being dating a Jehovah witness lady for about two years now.
She is such a wonderful and caring lady. The type that would make sure I am happy at all times.
Around November last year, she found out that I cheat. She even found out that I cheated that same week she came to my house. After much apologies and all, she forgave me and we continued. We kept having issues and reconciling. We finally broke up in February because they don't marry outside their church (I am not even thinking about marriage now) and someone in her church has approached her for marriage.
They are planning the wedding but she still comes to my house and we Bleep each time she comes. Today she came and her husband to be was calling her she refused taking the call. I asked her why is she doing this to the guy, she said even if she gets married tomorrow she will still be fuc...king me. Although I don't know the guy but I feel pity for him I bet she also claims that only JW members are holy.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 9:29am On Jun 19, 2020 |
Maximus69: There is a great valley between ATHEISM and VIRTUE!
There was a time one man labelled Jesus "GOOD TEACHER", Jesus' response explains it all, you can't really be good if you don't believe in the existence of the Supreme Being "God"! Luke 18:18-19
Because there are certain things that seems good in the sight of humans but evil in God's sight {Proverbs 14:12, 16:25} and there are things that seems evil from human's viewpoint but virtuous before God {1John 2:15} that's why God said to humans "my thoughts are far too high to yours" Isaiah 55:8-9  The way you quote bible out of context is irritating to those who actually know the bible. Now I understand why you never share the content of the verses you quote because they are in absolute dissonance with your applications. I pity the untaught that follow your posts on NL. Your quote verse, Luke 18:18-19 Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. This has nothing to do in your belief in God. Let me paraphrase what was said here since you seen to lack comprehensive cognition- There is no human being that is good (believers and unbelievers alike), only God. He himself even corrected the ruler for calling him good. I don't even have the time to correct your several other misquotations. You are an embarrassment to bible scholars even for JW. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 1:44pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: Just as only Noah's family survived the flood. Just as only Lot's family survived the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Just as only Rahab's family survived the destruction of Jericho.
So wait outside the camp and see how only the global family of JWs survives Armageddon!   |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 12:54pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 11:51am On Jun 17, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Fashola: Linking Me With Naira Marley’s Flight Is Ridiculous by Myer(m): 11:14am On Jun 17, 2020 |
Ogegeodey: Dr Iwuajoku is trying to do damage control.
If Naira Marley had not gathered crowd at Abuja, nobody would have known they was any sharp practice by the airlines operator. Exactly. There are so many such low key shows happening. They only happened to get caught cos Naira Marley just doesn't know how to lay low. The law is only for the poor anyways. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 11:08am On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: I was a Muslim when i saw the light afar in the midst of JWs. So instead of worrying yourself about what each religionist say, why not choose what appeals to you? Abi you too what to propagate ATHEISM?  Have you heard of the axiom, Live and Let Live? If your religion works for you by all means continue practicing it. You don't have to be self-righteous about it and telling everyone you're sorry for them. Must I keep reminding you of what the bible teaches and commands you? 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12 That you also aspire to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you, that you may walk properly toward those who are outside, and that you may lack nothing. Let your lifestyle be evangelism on its own. It's almost sad watching you argue all day and night and not one soul to your credit. Rather everyone keeps despising you the more like a pain that won't go away. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by Myer(m): 10:55am On Jun 17, 2020 |
PiccoloBrunelli: According to the Bible, God did not create Satan. Instead he created the person that BECAME Satan. The same way a woman does not give birth to a thief but the child later grows to become one.
Deuteronomy 32:3-5 tells us "Perfect is his activity, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness, with whom there is no injustice; righteous and upright is he.”
This shows that Satan was perfect in the beginning just like other angels. At John 8:44 Jesus says Satan did not "stand fast in the truth" or "abode not in the truth" according to King James version. This means at one point Satan was in the truth. But that later changed? Why?
God did not create the angels and humans like robots. He gave us free will. By choosing to do something which was the opposite of God's will, that formerly perfect angel made himself Satan which means Resister.
Please read Genesis 3:1-5 and Revelation 12:9. Did God create everything? Good and Evil? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 10:52am On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: John 3:16-19, 14:6
Jesus was strict when he made those comments, so it's left to each person to find out WHAT Jesus meant and how should his followers apply his words.
I'm repeating it today, if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses, i'm sorry for you  Exactly what Deeper Life, Redeemers, Celestians tell their members. Exactly what Muslims tell their members. Exactly what Buddhists tell their members. Any thing new? Guess what you all think the others are wrong and you are the only one that is right. It is really comical, if it wasn't too painful to watch cos people are literally dying for this. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Myer(m): 10:42am On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: God's word called people who say "there is NO God" insane Psalms 10:4, 14:1 Not Maximus69!  Do you care to know what God also told the Muslims to call Christians and every non-muslim? INFIDEL. And you want to know what he told them to do to you for not accepting Islam? KILL YOU. So you really only sound naive when you insult others who don't share your belief. Because that's what religion does to you. If you will only study your bible, if only, you will realize that God rejected the Jews just because of these same actions you keep portraying. You're not a disciple of Christ clearly by your fruits. You're also not a soul-winner going through your posts cos you have not won one single soul on Nairaland. In fact you keep giving people more reason to despise you and your ilk. You're just another self-righteous Jew. (No offense to Jews) |