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Maximus69:
That's why DappaD said you're not good in grasping facts!

JWs are less than 9 Million yet the whole earth can feel the effect of this number!

Our population in comparison with the whole population of earth's inhabitants is .001% yet there is no country on this planet that have not experience JWs and everywhere they are people know them as the most peaceful preachers whose gathering is never devastated by Racism and Politics.
The number is to alert you to the fact that they're relatively few in comparison to false religious groups around you, but they're efficacious with their mission! Matthew 5:13-16

AntiChristian:
Take for example the flood story:

In Flood story 1, the older story, Noah takes seven pairs of all clean animals plus one pair of all the others. Once on board with his family, it rained for forty days and forty nights, and everything outside the ark was killed. Noah sent out a dove to scout for dry land. On the second try, it returned with an olive leaf. Back on dry land, Noah sacrificed one of every clean animal to Yahweh, and Yahweh promised to never again destroy life on earth (with a flood, anyway).

In story #2, God is named, not Yahweh, but Elohim, and specifics about the design of the ark are given. With just one pair of each animal plus provisions, Noah (now 600 years old) and family go into the ark. This time, the water comes, not from rain, but from “the fountains of the great deep” and “the windows of the heavens.” Water had covered the earth for 150 days when Elohim made the water recede. This time it was a raven that helped scout for dry land, and they were back on dry land after a year in the ark. God told them to “be fruitful and multiply.”

AntiChristian:
I will like to know why there are in the Bible
Two different:

1. Creation stories.

2. Flood stories.

3. Ten commandments.

Maximus69:
The three you mentioned are the THEORIES, Jehovah's Witnesses will teach you the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS and you will start seeing the BENEFITS.
The Bible is the greatest of all books that's why JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES could use it to gather over 8,700,000 People from different races and tongues to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers.
No other book can perform such miracle!

hoopernikao:
See, this statement summarises your state of mind.

Most times when we discovered our mistakes we tend to think we have moved better or forward in knowledge. But the truth is in Christianity, when you discover your error or deception it's a revelation of your level of maturity, it doesn't imply you have grown, It simply means you just start growing as related to that. Hence, you should be patient more to grow and start afresh to understand how thing are done properly. Your position or years of experience is inconsequential. Whether you are a pastor or leader, it doesn't matter. You can be preaching and teaching millions of people for 10 years and yet you are a babe and knew nothing. Maturity is not in activities, activities are only product of maturity.

Sadly, we carry the knowledge of such past deception to judge all things and claim we are now mature.

See, you must first relearn and unlearn all you got from such deception, all the knowledge. And then open to the right teaching of God's word. It is clear you haven't unlearn many things and it's affecting your judgement. You will need to.

hoopernikao:
Your Bible must have been written using inverted monochrome.

Such an insult to Paul. Paul condemn any form if righteousness? Very sad. Are you such you read big letters at all? Hope you have not started drinking and reading

Bro, you really really need to sit and learn. You aren't in a rush and doesn't end well like that. This is why you keep seeing contradiction because RGB is different from monochrome o.

With what you wrote up there, you have no single knowledge of what grace is nor what Paul stands for.

AeroplaneApple:
if I had told him myself that he was shallow, he would have felt offended and that was why I chose to deny him a response.

You can see him trying to catch a straw with all the verses he is quoting

DappaD:
It's like you're deaf abi
What is “allow me be” in your local dialect? Let me speak it for you so it'd be clearer

Shoodboi:
Today (June 20, 2020), is the longest day of the year

For those who have been following the weather (especially children who play a lot, adults who fast, and Muslims who pray around 7 in the evening), you may have noticed that dusk comes much later, and lasts for longer.

(Dusk is the period of brief daylight after the sun has set. It marks the boundary between evening and night.)

Everywhere becomes dark around 7:30 pm or even much later, instead of around a few minutes to seven as it used to be in the past (at least, here in Lagos).

This is happening because we are close to the summer solstice, and in fact, today, June 20, 2020, is the summer solstice.


What does Summer Solstice mean?

As you should know, the earth revolves around the sun. However, the earth is not completely round and neither is its orbit round the sun.

The earth’s orbit is elliptical, which makes the distance between the earth and the sun vary throughout the year.

The earth itself is a bit flat at the north and south poles, which makes its side bulge out like a balloon that is about to burst.

The result is that, once a year, the earth positions itself such that the sun appears at its highest position in the sky in the northern part of the earth.

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The summer solstice is on the left.

That day is called the Summer Solstice and is usually between June 20 and 22 every year.

However, that moment in 2020 falls on 5:44 pm EDT on June 20 (today). For us in Nigeria, that is 10:44 pm WAT (West African Time).


What happens on the Summer Solstice?

The summer solstice is always the longest day and shortest night of the year. This means we will enjoy more daylight today than on any other day of the year.

People living at the northernmost and southernmost parts of the earth will even enjoy 24 hours of sunlight throughout the day.

The summer solstice also marks the beginning of the summer season in the northern hemisphere (the northern half of the earth).

However, the reverse will happen in the southern hemisphere (the southern half of the earth) where the sun will be at its lowest point, making the summer solstice the beginning of the winter season in the Southern hemisphere.


What about the solar eclipse?

Lucky for us, this year’s solstice will coincide with a very rare solstice solar eclipse that will last from 4:45 am to 9:34 am on June 21. (The next solstice solar eclipse will only come around on June 21, 2039.)

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The eclipse will look like the photo above. That is the moon covering the sun with the thin "ring of fire" line visible.

Tomorrow’s eclipse will be visible from some parts of Africa and Asia.

People living in Congo, Ethiopia, and China will see the eclipse, and so will people living in northern India, southern Pakistan, and the Central African Republic.

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The eclipse will be most visible in the area that is orange in color.

Unfortunately, it appears that it will not be visible from Nigeria.


Source: I wrote this myself with reference from https://www.almanac.com/content/first-day-summer-summer-solstice and https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar/2020-june-21

DappaD:
Young/old man, for the second time allow me be!

DappaD:
Young/old man, allow me be
You this confused mixed up atheist

hoopernikao:
I have told you severally, that you will need to calm down and start learning afresh. Don't let whatever position or influence you have deceive you. Maturity is personal. And you must be deliberate to expose yourself to it.

Firstly, what is the meaning of hypergrace believer. Is there anything as such? You are only carried about by slangs.

Secondly, does Galatians 3-5 tells you to commit sin and go on until spirit tells you to stop? Don't go around saying things you don't know. You are only making your situation hard.

So, like I said. No Christian falls into what you described earlier. It's only your illusion or you count a Christian by using the persons surname eg Peter, Solomon or count a Christian by using attendance in church. You must know what and who a Christian mean and stop exposing yourself here.

DappaD:
You are a MUMU man!
Below is what I typed:

Those miraculous gifts were needed to identify in a spectacular way that God’s favor had shifted from the Jewish nation and was now upon this new congregation of Christians

How is this still not clear to you? Did I say the Holy spirit was poured on just the Jews after Pentecost 33C.E.? Use sense small abeg

DappaD:
This special gift of tongues received in Jerusalem through God’s holy spirit assisted the disciples there in preaching the good news for a sign to those Jewish worshipers from distant parts of the earth. But the real fulfillment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28-32 on that day of Pentecost 33CE was the fact that those who were filled with the spirit prophesied. Speaking with tongues was incidental, for a sign of authenticity or divine backing.—Acts 2:16-22.

Those miraculous gifts were needed to identify in a spectacular way that God’s favor had shifted from the Jewish nation and was now upon this new congregation of Christians. But it was only temporary, hence Paul said those gifts would be done away with among the Christians of the first century (1Corinthians 13:8-10)
Nevertheless, faith, hope and love remained as the distinguishing mark of true Christianity (1Corinthians 13:13) and it is that mark that has identified Jehovah's Witnesses to be the only Christian group to have divine backing.

Maximus69:
DappaD said it and now it's confirmed, you don't know anything in the Bible Sir!

@ bolded, FAITH is not a gift but one of FRUIT of God's holy NOT GIFT Sir! Galatians 5:22-23

Without FAITH nobody can please God {Hebrew 11:6} so FAITH is a compulsory FRUIT that must reflect in the congregation as a whole Sir not just a GIFT!

hoopernikao:
There is no Christian who believes this bro. There is none.

hoopernikao:
There is no Christian who believes this bro. There is none.

Maximus69:
If you want to know something you must calm down first, otherwise you will continue to beat about the bush with no benefit. How many church claims to be the one and only apart from Jehovah's Witnesses? Kumuyi, Adeboye, Olukoya, TB Joshua, Oyedepo, Oyakilome and others all agreed that they're all worshiping the same God with the exception of JWs alone who keeps saying it and exhibiting it that their God differs!


I have treated this topic with you several times that Jesus only meant that Joel's prophesy {Joel 2:28} will be fulfilled after his departure {Act 2:16-18} and Apostle Paul made it clear that it's just for a short time! 1Corinthians 13:8-10


I have told you that the nine qualities of God's holy spirit can't be found complete in any human apart from Jesus for now but in the Organization that belongs to God all these qualities will manifest because they're the body of Christ {Ephesians 4:12} it's after the 1,000 years reign of Christ that all those exercising faith in Jesus will be clean from head to toe! Revelations 20:5



The GIFTS of God's holy spirit will not last amongst the Christians according to Apostle Paul {1Corinthians 13:8-10} that's why many of them were never cured with miraculous works as you're expecting {1Timothy 5:23} but the love amongst God's people will remain as the sign to help honest hearted persons know the group that belongs to Christ! John 13:34-35 compare to 1Corinthians 13:13

God bless you!

Maximus69:
Mind you this doesn't happen amongst the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses)

Yet if i tell you there is just one single Christian group approved by God, you'll start arguing, please which one you dey!

Maximus69:
The other thread is a complete waste of time and effort!

They're trying to fill a basket with water, instead of first asking
"How do we all benefit from the teaching of Christ?"

Each is trying to defend the falsehood handed over to them by their misinformed churchgoer pastors!

If God is one and Jesus (the model God presented to humans) is one, then how do you justify different forms of worship with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of the same Jesus?

So Myer will continue to dribble them with his atheistic mindset and lastly they'll start arguing, abusing, insulting and cursing one another!

GRIMMJOE:
Who is deceiving who.

DappaD:
If I continue saying you know nothing it would look like an insult to you
I hope you know that like Christendom, Islam has different sects and different beliefs
So how are they now united in belief?
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are united when it comes to anything regarding belief in God's word, the Bible. Because we don't promote sects or divisions, which is listed among the works of the flesh (Galatians 5:20)
We reject anybody trying to promote a sect in our midst (Titus 3:10-11)

Righteousness89:
Not completely correct!

A Marriage needs to be Blessed! Someone who stands as a Representative of GOD needs to Bless the Marriage. E.g Pastor, priest, etc

GOD ALMIGHTY in the Beginning Blessed Adam and Eve..

Gen 1:28..

The Blessings spoken to a couple is important!

All the other things are not really important!

MuttleyLaff:
Erhn now, aspe hin be glutton for punishment and/or one not to miss an opportunity of correcting education, lmao

DappaD:
In the days of Noah as well, the warning wouldn't have been sounded just once. Seth's descendant, Enoch prophesied as regards to the wickedness of men in his time and may have sounded a warning to them. (Jude 14-15). Many may have thought that it was a onetime warning but no, even after Jehovah commissioned Noah to build the Ark, Noah likewise may have sounded warnings too to the wicked people to repent of their bad ways. 2Peter 2:5 called Noah “a preacher of righteousness”. So likely in all the years he spent building the Ark, he may have been preaching to the bad people so they could change.

Matthew 24:37-39
“For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be.  For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,  and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.”
So yeah you can keep doubting and ignoring what the Bible actually says concerning the end but that's to your own detriment and no one else's.

jcross19:
my own is concerning the teaching of Christ contradicting the believe of his disciples, and even violating the law given my moses then I concluded that those laws of moses were just for the poor and the common.

Maximus69:
Don't doubt whatever anybody say when it comes to deception, Satan can fabricate anything and called it Church. 2Corinthians 11:14-15
Certainly you'll find people who loves such lifestyles going there for worship all in the name of Jesus as they just want to be associated with that name! Matthew 7:21-23
That's why it's compulsory to ascertain which of the groups claiming Christians are truly practicing Christianity in the right sense?

Myer kept portraying Islam as if there is anything worthwhile to write home about that Religion, whereas 99% of Terrorist acts on this planet today are carried out by persons claiming Muslims!

JhayJoe:
DOES GOD TEMPT HUMANS?

"Let no man say when he is tempted, i am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man"-James 1:13

"And it came to pass after these things,that God DID TEMPT Abraham"-Genesis 22:1

CAN HUMANS SEE GOD?

"No one has ever seen God"-1 John 4:12
"No man has seen or can see God"-1 Timothy 6:16

"The Lord APPEARED to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of that day"- Genesis 18:17
"The Lord would speak to Moses FACE TO FACE, as one speaks to a friend"-Exodus 33:11

Maximus69:
@ bolded!

I can only imagine how most of these religionists would treat a JW who will not participate in their Birthdays, Easter, Christmas, New Year, Virgil, Devotion and most other things that's against our faith,
not to talk of boss to worker secret affairs!
In 1984 the then Buhari~Ìdíàgbon led govt sacked many JWs, drove most of their children out of school all because of the National anthem and pledge!

So my friend, when it comes to sacking of workers, each organization have what they make the yardstick for retaining workers but i've been to places and i'm telling you now that JWs are the best when talking about dedicated workers!

MuttleyLaff:
You'll find seemingly false positive inconsistencies and contradictions in translations, but not an/or never in either of the original texts

DappaD:
Okay, now look closely at last part of Revelation 12:12, “...Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time”
When Satan was completely confined to the earth in 1914, he brought about the First World War in history which led to the slaughter of up to 40million[actual figure not confirmed] people, then still under his influence, in the years 1918-1920, the world experienced casualties as well from the then Spanish Flu (a global pandemic), even so in the year 1930, the whole world fell into economic shambles because of the Great Depression, the recurring earthquakes at the beginning of the 1900's and the Second World War[which is tagged the deadliest human conflict ever] had more than 85million deaths and ever since then the world has NOT known peace because of Satan's direct influence, but wait THERE'S MORE! When Jesus' disciple requested a sign of his presence[i.e as him being appointed King of God's Kingdom], he then told him at Matthew 24:1-14 and Luke 21:7-11, the things that would take place in the time of his presence and the end of this system of things.

Glorymax:
Though I didn't open the link you posted but I know the statement. Mind you, something led to something. There are questions that preceded that statement.
Anyway, thank you so much. We'll remain underdogs in your dream by the time you wake up, you will know where we are.

Enjoy your weekend and keep staying safe