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hoopernikao:
Bible explanation is not 1+1=2 Sir. Bible explanation is serious work. You can direct your question above to pamphlet readers because of I don't do sound bites.

Like I said before, If you are desirous of proving points and you are sure of what you are trying to do, lay down a well educated, well researched and insightful theology of your stand. That is when I can attest you are ready and that you are a serious bible student not a Nairaland bible student. I dont do 1+1 = 2 with bible.

I prefer a well researched work and spending time with such serious minds. You have the opportunity to show you are one here now by presenting a DETAILED biblical investigation of your thoughts. You shouldn't be afraid of presenting such since you are energetic enough to defend the your correspondence.

1 Corinthians 2:1-5
And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God.
For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling.
And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

1 Corinthians 4:20- For the kingdom of God is not in word but in power.

This is why it's not argument that makes believers but the demonstration of Power but unfortunately Christians today do not demonstrate that, even the Pastors only display excellence of speech in Motivation speaking and gimmicks nothing more.

Ask them why there is no power, why the lame are not walking, why the blind do not see, why the nations is getting worse despite the number of churches, why after all pastors prayers and prayers of agreement the sick still dies, they will start making up excuses.

Even the Jews knew scriptures, in fact so much so that Jesus specifically warned his disciples to beware of their doctrines/leaven. Matt 16:5-12
What differentiated the disciples from the Jews was their belief in Jesus and the demonstration of the Power of God in their lives.

This convinced the early disciples of the their faith.

1 John 1: 1-4
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life-
2 the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us—
3 that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.
4 And these things we write to you that your joy may be full.

Without this it becomes like just every other religion claiming to be the only true religion.

They just had to find a way to squeeze the old Malachi 3:10-12 into it. Even in the midst of a pandemic.

Guess finance is low since tithes and offerings are not coming in as usual.

Righteousness89:
Totally Inappropriate, Distasteful and Disgraceful!

And the Worst of all is being a Married woman!

What is The World Really Becoming?

This Should be for the Eyes of Mr. Femi alone

Don't kee yourself Mr self-righteous.

Afterall, God is not complaining.

MuttleyLaff:
It wasn't a 100% success rate.
Guess what, even with the signs and wonder, people only followed Jesus because they could take advantage of His generosity and be guaranteed a free lunch, lmao.

Atheists, will any time, t, misuse and abuse the gift of freewill. What a self assured God will serve. This display of trusting in one's abilities and judgement speaks volume. If I were to be atheist, this would have me rattled up in my cage

Not all would still believe, true. But a sizeable number would.

If God felt it was necessary then, how much more now?

Faith is important yes, but so is evidence.

shadeyinka:
Can you win a athiest in an argument? Same thing

It was biblically possible though.
Jesus did, Paul did, etc.
Guess how?
With signs and wonders.
Is that not all an atheist demands?

Amanee:
The movie was just there - Just another Nollywoood movie glorifying rituals that adds to the same old 'Africa as a dark continent' narrative.

I think it should have ended in part one. This part two is superfluous, overhyped and not in line with the modern realities in Nigeria. In short, it's a worn narrative and Ramsey Nuoah should have had a more challenging directorial debut than 'Living in Bondage 2'. He just rode on the glory of the previous film. Kemi Adetiba was really robbed at AMVCA.

I watched it months ago and I can't even remember anything memorable about the action, it was that bland.

Honestly, I kept waiting for the interesting part right up until the movie ended.
Considering the reviews I had read, it was an anti-climax.
Though the cinematography was impressive.

Racoon:
The use of vulgar language by Trump is totally wrong but the criminal act of looting by the Floyd protesters is condemnable.

Twitter has become a joke all of a sudden.
Censoring a president for speaking like a president addressing a criminal crisis.

Guess the democrats have bought him too.

The law is only for the poor.

proeast:
I don't know why afonjas are so envious and wicked. Just imagine, their state governors have refused to patronize Innoson even when Northerners are happily patronizing the company. I have not seen a more selfish and ethnocentric people like these folks.

To them everything is competition with the Igbos even when they have no alternative. Just look at Northerners and even foriegners taking pride in Innoson as an African brand but envy will not allow them. Tufiakwa!!

Igbos always blaming everyone else for their own failures.

How many igbos have patronised Innoson?
You yourself, have you bought any of his cars?

Keep pointing at others when you yourselves have not patronize him.

Tribalistic bigots.

Rozz:
So sad,i wonder if there are bibble verses supporting their refusal for blood transfusion.

Of course there's always a verse.lol But the interpretation of it is where the contention usually is.

In old testament. Leviticus 17:11-12
For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.

New testament Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

They some how managed to interprete eating of blood as blood transfusion.

Rozz:
i love them as well but something is just not right with them.I watched one video sometimes ago where a pregnant woman was abandoned to die because the husband refused blood transfusion for her as it's against their doctrine,i cried so much watching that video.Till now I have not gotten any tangible reasons from any JW why they adopt such cruelty even at the point of death.

Yea, they'll rather watch their wives die than accept blood transfusion. The worst part is they don't even believe in miracles for them to even heal the poor lady. So that's a lose-lose situation for them.

Even the bible says don't be too religious.

Rozz:
You are so on point,there's this thing about JW and the way they condemn people. Did Jesus ever condemn anyone? no.They treat people with disdain and highly unfriendly.

True. I honestly love reading their publications but the organization itself is something else.

hoopernikao:
Mr Janosky

This is where I always have issue with some of you. You can't continue doing this when you have been corrected many times and you saw it yourself. It will amount to manipulation of the scriptures. I have shown you here many times and you have seen it that usage of theos in John 1:1 or any verse is not a reason to say it means a god. It is context and interpretation that will determine that. We have had this discussion severally here. I likewise pointed you to one of your organization post on their website that also corrected you but you kept holding the wrong meaning.

You can go ahead defending your doctrine but ensure you use words and scriptures within their meaning and context. This is how you can present yourself truthfully.

Theos is the main Greek name for God (the supreme being) and it can be used to mean any god. Every other word for God in Greek based on Theos such as Theon, Theous etc are inflexions of the main word Theos based on the grammar usage not meaning usage.

So you can use any other thing to explain but pointing to John 1:1 that because Theos was used then it means a god, will be a deliberate error of interpretation.

My friend, trying to impose your own interpretation as always.

You can share your opinion/assertion but try not to impose it. You've made your point.

I do enjoy reading your views even though we hardly agree. lol

Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmm Paradise is not that far but there are many rivers to cross!

So despite the way i've treated you this lady with so much contempt, you still feel the need to learn more about us!

Well let me start from where the river could be deeper.

You must be prepared to change friends because friendship with the world is enmity with God! Romans 8:7; James 4:4

You must be willing to see things from the viewpoint of God NOT the way the world view it! Isaiah 55:8-9

Your dressing and grooming have nothing as in NOTHING to do with your faith but because of unbelievers whose minds has been filled with manmade doctrines, you have to consider them by dressing in a way that will not stumble them. You don't need all those protocols in your home with your husband! 1Peter 3:1-6

Think more of how to help them as you would have loved to be helped, ask yourself "if a woman is dressed like this how many people will give her a listening ear even though she has the message of hope to give them? Matthew 22:39

If you're in your own home with your man or you're in the midst of fellow believers only, nobody looks at you lustfully {Matthew 5:28} but that's not the case in the midst of unbelievers or when an unbeliever is around!

So it takes great courage to wave goodbye to the world and it's ways! 1John 2:15-17

God bless you!

That was fast.

She's not even agreed to be a Jehovah's Witness and you're already attacking her dressing even though you've never even met her

You see why I keep saying JW is more of a Jewish organization than a Christian organization. Don't do this, Don't eat that, etc.

I actually tried to join JW once cos I was intrigued by your publications and had one of you as a colleague.
I was shocked by the observations I made. I went for one of your gatherings a couple of times and they mentioned that men aren't even allowed to wear jeans. I was like how now
And please why is it that no one even drinks the Holy Communion?

MuttleyLaff:
"But when the Father sends the Advocate as my representative
—that is, the Holy Spirit—He will teach you everything and will remind you of everything I have told you."
- John 14:26

"When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth.
He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard.
He will tell you about the future."
- John 16:13

God, is not a God of confusion and the scripture doesn't have inconsistencies and contradictions. You are right, one requires the Spirit of Truth who guides believers in all truths.

@bolded You know that gets my attention.

There was a time I believed this too. Until I realized that there is so much confusion in the boby of Christ, all from the same bible.

Notice how the Spirit of Truth seems to have revealed conflicting revelations to you all even on this topic on this thread?

Truly, there are portions of the bible to support the concept of Trinity.

Conversely, there are portions of the bible against the concept of Trinity.

Ergo, who is responsible for this confusion?

The men who translated it or the author, God who inspired it?

Maximus69:
Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!
May Jehovah be praised!
I've always noticed ATHEISM in you from the very first time i sighted your post!



I told you what God said about it but since ATHEISM has taken away the interest in you, i have to switch to the next person as our Master Lord and King instructed us!

Your deductive reasoning gets lower every day.

How does not supporting the biblical God translate to atheism? Even if I was, it's far better than being a slave to a religion like you.

OP shared some points concerning the bible, why not prove him wrong?

Give just any evidence that the signs and wonders in the bible are real. At least those were the evidences given by God to make himself believable.

Let me help you- have you seen the red sea or any sea part lately? Have you even seen your gutter part?

Have you rained down fire on the village people that won't just let you blow or let's say any false prophets or idol worshipers?

Have you made the lame walk or the blind see?

Imagine how you will trend, if you turned water to wine? Just imagine.

If God deemed it fit to show these signs and wonders in the bible to make himself believable, how come all of a sudden he does not show any signs?

Jehovah's Witnesses are even the worst, your leaders managed to add a little plot twist- Guess what- that all signs have ceased forever and you idiots believed them.
Just perfect.

beardlessdude:
Everything in this world is evidence, from maths provings to law cases, you get my point.
You cant even dare say somethings To someone without proof.
What is so special about religion we must not question?
God should try for us, even if it is To send angels To minister to all his fellowers every once in a while while they pray or study the word, even once a year. But nothing! Other than a book written how long again?
Easter sunday that marks symbolic resurrection and people still died from covid19. What kinda symbolism is that?

How would someone serve God for over 30 years, diligently going to church reading the word trying To live right, and not once expérience him, other than silly dreams and "bishop said"
How do you want people To hold on the belief?
This is not fair oooo.

Do you notice how in the bible he actually gives evidence whenever it is requested, but in real life, he's sort of shy.

spartan117:
Glad you asked. Someone asked me a similar question on this forum not too long ago, so I'll share my response with you.



There are too many to mention.
#GodIsFaithful
#PrayerWorks

Thanks for sharing.

You didn't answer the simple question I asked though.

Kindly read it again and answer.

spartan117:
Wrong.

Back to the topic I have watched this movie about 4 times, it has really blessed my life.
Prayer is indeed powerful!

If you don't mind sharing with us how it blessed your life. Besides being interesting.

Which prayer was answered after you watched the movie? Just 1 atleast.

Qijiaren:
War Room Movie : Prayer is a powerful weapon/fighting the right way.
Please SUBSCRIBE to the youtube channel for more videos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HkJLVoMDDk

You do realise this was fiction right?

Prayer doesn't seem to be working for Nigerians though.

Ask the morher who lost her sick child after many prayers from pastors.

Ask the wife who lost her sick husband after many fellowship prayers.

Ask the many people with disabilities that pastors couldn't help.

Ask the people with real problems that prayer didn't solve.

Ask countries like Nigeria whose prayer for the country seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Please let's separate fiction from real life.

Davash222:
Out of that 3500 deaths, at least a thousand are malaria/typhoid death.

Africa is too blessed. We are our own problem.

Nunber of deaths in the whole continent not even any where near a state in US alone.

Yet they predicted that Africa would record the highest deaths. Sorry, we are not sorry to surprise them all and beat their statistics.

PresidentAtiku:
Femi you be mumu

After three years you go leave government and then face nemesis. May your generation always have Buhari and Buhari effects as luck

Heartless man

Were you expecting him to speak against his boss?

Will you?

As long as you understand that Buhari is still the boss of VP Osinbajo and Femi Adesina, you shouldn't even be offended by their remarks.

But 3 years still far oh.

Unfortunately we don't even have any reliable aspirant of our choice except the who APC and PDP impose on us.
We have a long way to go in this country.

My brother, Hustle oh... make you no dey fight over APC and PDP.

Maximus69:
There is no spiritual missile Satan can infuse your brain that God's word {Hebrew 4:12} will not render harmless {Isaiah 54:17} followers of this thread may not identify you as a seed of the Serpent {Genesis 3:15} but Jehovah has given us that discerning spirit to fish you out speedily!

Once you condemned God's word (whether subtly or harshly) you have nothing to say that's of any use to one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

You believe in satanic missiles but don't believe in spiritual gifts?

Making any intelligent conversation with you is an effort to futility. I'm done.

Maximus69:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Jesus, Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes and the rest are Jews Sir!

So they all had the same attitude claiming they know better than everyone else when talking about their God!

The only difference is while Jesus' disciples have love amongst themselves, all other Jewish religious groups never had PEACE amongst themselves!

That's exactly what's happening today Sir!

Your lack of understanding grows deeper with every post.

Good to know that you have no problem being identified as Pharisees or Saducees. That explains a lot.

You clearly didn't see that Jesus was never in agreement with Pharisees and Saduccees but in fact cursed them all the time for their self-righteousness.
Luke 11:37–54 and Matthew 23:1–39. Mark 12:35–40 and Luke 20:45–47

Atleast now we finally know that your role model is not Christ but self-righteous Pharisees and Saducees.

Maximus69:
Nobody actually wanted to be identified with our founder too! John 9:22 compare to Act 24:5

As for the unwilling tolerance, it's because America has declared freedom of speech, expression and worship, otherwise we know you and your cohorts will not spare us after knowing we won't flow along with you! Act 4:18, 5:28

Jesus sent out his followers as "FISHERS OF MEN" so you're 100% correct about the men caught by Jesus' disciples! Luke 5:10

Thus is what you need to understand.

Stop comparing yourself to Christ or his disciples in the bible. Your very nature only reminds everyone of the Pharisees and Saducees who also felt they were more righteous than everyone else.

MuttleyLaff:
I didnt actually miss the joke, what I've done is go ahead of you. Its true we both are speaking the truth, however the disagreement is because I am aware you believe there are existing from the original texts inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible, when there is nothing of the sort in the original text(s)

But even the Hebrew language and Greek also have multiple interpretations of the same words/sentences.

Why do you think there's a myriad of bible translations?

Takeit2017:
God why? Why me?
I dnt have confidence speaking good English always Craming what to say?

Please help me.

Come, let me help you magically make it disappear. Lol

Young man the solution is to learn english na.

Get a good teacher or study online.

Also watching good movies can help you flow better.

And definitely practise what you learn.

Note: It's not about using big vocabularies but speaking good english.

Okoroawusa:
Chai!

See fine girls!

Next time you igbos think of calling Northerners animals, let these images keep replaying in your mind.

Then compare your igbo brothers in Ariaria, Alaba, Tejuosho, Onitsha and you yourselves be the judge.

Who behave more like animals?

MuttleyLaff:
Exactly, its a distorted representation of honesty

You missed the joke.

We all believe we're speaking the truth on this issue.

Yet, we are in disagreement.

So who is telling the truth?

Maximus69:
I think they did if they never exhibit it!

There's so much I could say about your deductive reasoning, but it's a weist.

Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmm,

I think all those people you mentioned don't have the spirit of God because they never spoke in tongues Sir!

Atleast they didn't claim spiritual gifts have ceased.

MuttleyLaff:
If it makes you feel better and sleep at night, just as like a freshly bathed baby does, please sir, be my guest to address or call me, whatever noun you fancy and/or whatever adjective that suits you

The irony.

Nobody actially wants to be identified with JW members.
We simply have no choice but to tolerate them. After all, most of them are just victims.