₦airaland Forum

tuna85:
Read once again, slowly and slowly this time

Thanks. You just proved the article right.

A lot of Northern muslims support and believe in the Taliban. A terroist organisation with extreme views that kill/maim people with different views from them in the name of Islam. The Taliban with views similar to Salafist and even Izala(to some extent) views here in Nigeria, which is actually the main argument of the OP.

That is troubling. It is very troubling

tuna85:
Give me a clear description of the Talibans, who they are then I can tell you if their doings are within the jurisdiction of Islaam or not.

I am talking about the Talibans.

The present Govt of Afghanistan.

Info is free on google.

Do you believe or support them?

NB: It is amazing how you northern Muslims have been hiding/deflecting a simple question

Ibkhaleel01:
Your question have been answered so well...but i doubt if your eyes can see the truth!


You cant close your mind and expect to see the answer....

Anyway i wil educate you even more...


Clearly Islam the religion is not the cause of terrorism. Islam, as I said, is a religion of peace. However through the centuries, deviations from the true teachings of Islam take place. And so Muslims kill despite the injunction of their religion against killing especially of innocent people.

If you look at Christianity you must admit that being thrown to the lions by the Romans did not prevent Christians when they achieved power from being totally intolerant of those who did not accept Christianity During the Spanish Inquisition suspected apostates were burnt at the stake after mock trials. In fact many who are in America today are descended from Christians who had fled from terror perpetrated by other Christians. And the Jews in America are the descendants of the Jews who fled the regular pogroms in European countries, especially Russia, and of course the persecution by the Germans under Hitler.

Islam had in fact been more tolerant. The Jews chose to migrate to North Africa together with the defeated Muslims after Ferdinand and Isabella completed the reconquest of Spain. To stay back meant forced conversion to Christianity or pain of death. Even after conversion they remained suspects and were persecuted.

The Muslims were well disposed towards Christians in particular. When the early Muslims were persecuted by the heathen Arabs, they sought refuge in Abyssinia, a Christian country with a Christian king. They were well treated there because the Christians realised they worshipped the same God and recognised not only the prophets of the Christians but those of the Jews as well. The Muslims venerate Musa or Moses, and Isa or Jesus as their prophets along with Adam, Abraham, Jacob and others.

They differ from the Hebrews and the Christians because they believe that at the time of the Prophet Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians had deviated from the true teachings. But then you must remember that Martin Luther and others too accused the Christians of their times of deviation from the true teachings and founded their own creed or sect in protest. So the Muslims' attitude towards Christianity is not much different from that of the various Protestant sects. In the past Catholics and Protestants were violently intolerant of each other.


Islam is capable of coexisting with Judaism and Christianity if they are not oppressed. Indeed Islam is capable of coexisting with other religions too, including with those without any religion.


However, whether people are fighting a noble cause or not, there are certain acts which they may not perpetrate. Exploding bombs in public places and killing innocent people cannot be accepted. Holding civilians to ransom or as hostages cannot be accepted. Poisoning food, medicine or water supply cannot be accepted.

Sorry, if you answered the question before i did not see it.

So kindly just answer that question alone now. No need for anyother story plzz.

Do you believe in or support the Taliban??

Ibkhaleel01:
TALIBAN SIMPLY GAINED CONTROL OVER THEIR COUNTRY and you see that as evil and bad...but Israel has forcefully killed people including children and force themselves on their lands but you close your eyes to that evil...


Somebody posted this in order to berate Afghanistan government.
You accused Taliban of not allowing females to go to school. Now that they are going to school, you still accused them of separating their seats in the classroom.
You can not used your religion as a yardstick to judge Islam. You can only learn from Islam so as to live a better life. Islam is free from free mixing of matured male and female. That is the standard of Islam.

I asked you a simple question which you have not answered in the rant above: do you believe in or support the Taliban?
Yes or No. And then if you like, why?

By the way, i oppose what Isreal is doing to the Palestine (and i specifically mean the taking of the lands of Palestine. I have always opposed that vehemently whilst supporting the right of Isreal to defend itself. Two different issues).

Plus, i do not hate Islam or any other religion or belief system. Never have.
But i do not tolerate when any religion or belief become a clog to human progresd or peace. Which is what some Muslims are turning Islam to be now. If you read the article, you should be angry at those who are trying to deface Islam except of course yoi believe that they are in the right yourself.

Am talking too much. Plzz answer the questions

Ibkhaleel01:
They go to work, live, holiday & shop in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait & Qatar.
While there, they subject themselves completely to Sharia laws & Islamic injunctions that govern these countries.
They even learn Arabic to be able to communicate effectively.
But here in Nigeria that is governed by laws & a constitution that is based on the Christian CANONICAL laws...;
here in Nigeria that uses for all its official documents, schedules & civil observances the GREGORIAN calendar named after Pope Gregory XIII, who issued the papal bull Inter gravissimas in 1582, announcing calendar reforms for all of Catholic Christiandom which gave birth to the Gregorian calendar in use today also called the Western or Christian calendar...;
they want to die whenever they see Arabic inscription on anything. They are so afraid of Islamization & are all running away to the Middle East to escape been Islamized by Buhari.
Self-deceit & idiotic hypocrisy should indeed have a limit!!

Bros, do you believe in or support the Taliban??

tuna85:
Read my words again, this time, slowly

I have very simple questions to ask you Bros:

1. Do you support the Taliban?

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Ibkhaleel01:
Islam sells in naira land.

Nigeria Christians are more Pentecostal. The more Pentecostal a nation is by population, the more hate spreads. The thriving wheel of Pentecostal churches are three:

1. Miracles
2. Gospel of hate
3. False cry of persecutions.



This is why it cannot end. The moderator knows he gets more attention in his thread and web when Islam is a cause for bashing.

Respond to the specific things in that article or keep your mouth shut!!

FVckbubuDcow:
https://westafricaweekly.substack.com/p/cornflakes-for-jihad-the-boko-haram



Southerners please take your time to read the article above.

Woo!!!!

Just finished reading this.

Just woo!!!

Very, very troubling

Asgard73:
Yoruba rant!

Tell him to contesT first.. no be to the deny.. or test waters
Tinubu should declare intention ... so we go hold a.m. by his words ...
Yoruba people can twist anything

He declare first...

And if Apc refused him ticket he should decamp and contest..

Not only Tinubu but any Yoruba human..

Power returns North

After all Na aboki called him .. my president

Power is not going to the north in 2023 and Atiku will not be the President.

The deft "about turn" with the reecent PDP chairman zoning decision should already have shown you the direction things are going.

Atiku should not be President. Neither should Tinubu(on that I agree with you).

DubaiLandLord2:
I hope you won't have a HBP when the BAT eventually wins the 2023 presidential election

Wait! With what Buhari is doing ( or have done sef), you see want someone like Tinubu to rule Nigeria?

Na wa o

And you are most likely a youth o

Did i just read that they wiped out an entire community??

Burgerlomo:
WTF is going on in Naija for christ sake? RIP to the dead

Yours is the only comment that makes sense so far.

I had to read up to the 4th page to find it.

Thank you

RZArecta:
Attorney General of the Federation

As in ehn..

Just speechless

Khaleepha5681:
PDP won't give southerner any ticket

I just only APC dares this

Let me hear word.

The north, esp the Upper North alone, is not as powerful as you guys make them to be.

Was it not in this same country, in fact in recent memory, that a certain Buhari kept losing elections(3 times) even when he wins 12 upper northern states massively until he went to an alliance with a part of the south?

Abegi

Ibkhaleel01:
And you expect the north to vote pdp?


Lol with all your Nonsense threats and ban on grazing

You stil expect a Northerner to vote for a southerner?

Time wil tell and you wil always be disgraced

Let me hear word.

The north, esp the Upper North alone, is not as powerful as you guys make them to be.

Was it not in this same country, in fact in recent memory, that a certain Buhari kept losing elections(3 times) even when he wins 12 upper northern states massively until he went to an alliance with a part of the south?

Abegi

seunmsg:
I’m glad the engagement and enlightenment effort of some of us on this matter is not in vain. Shame on every southerner that supported the unfair and irrational decision to zone the party’s presidential ticket to the north. It is an anomaly that will never stand. We are not there yet but this is a very big step forward. Kudos to all southern governors in PDP and Ortom of Benue for backing up their resolution with action.

Yes, thank you.

It is now time for the SW in the spirit of Fairness and the new found southern solidarity, to zoon the Presidency to the southeast- a region that has been most shortchanged in the sillly Presidential "sharing" of ours.

Thank you again

aylipple:
You know this already. Let the South not rejoice yet; this is another political masterstroke by the "real" owners of PDP who have already finished playing the game even before it begins.

Let me hear word.

The north, esp the Upper North alone, is not as powerful as you guys make them to be.

Was it not in this same country, in fact in recent memory, that a certain Buhari kept losing elections(3 times) even when he wins 12 upper northern states massively until he went to an alliance with a part of the south?

Abegi

By the way, weldone to the PDP on this.

Useless party. But Weldone.

I hate weaklings. And the southern Govs and politicians would certainly have been that if they do not "demand" thr Presidency this timr around.

They are not 2nd class citizens

knacker:
Peter Obi is coming

Yes

luizpippo:
Just because the speaker spoke on the side of those who were slaughtered by Fulani herdsmen last month, this idiots have started their sheninagans .

Bloody blood sucking terrorists

You are right

Cruz of the matter.

Before the Speaker and other members of the assembly spoke against the onslaught against their people by mostly Fulani herdsmen, they were great APC members. But after that speak up, they are now corrupt abi?

The Speaker and other Assembly members shoulsmd stand their ground. Protecting their own people is more important than dancing to the beatings of any political party

I just finished reading the document after downloading.

And i just need to say that this is very important, in fact critical for our nation's elections and democracy. This should attract much more attention than it has so far. In fact, if we get this right, our election management process would get a huge boost. And we know what that will mean for the nation. Please Download the document and read.

I really need to commend INEC for this rare show of some level of independence and fortrightness.

I also want to comdemn the activities of the criminally minded people in the national assembly who are fighting tooth and nail to derail this great step for our elections. Why didnt they for instance invite INEC in plenary like they did for NCC even if they had planned to initially(they obviously knew the position of INEC)? And why did the invited NCC take a different position from what their own joint committee took for years now as clearly shiwn by this document? Criminallly-minded people are also short sighted. They tend to believe that they can keep benefitting from the prevailing status quo without understanding that better skilled criminally-minded peeps would sooner displace them and have the whole cookie to themselves.

Nigerians! We gat shine our eyes!!!

seunmsg:
Is Peter Obi interested in becoming the president? What exactly has he done or is currently doing to push this ambition? PDP is about to zone its ticket to the North, what is Peter Obi doing about it?

So, what exactly can the south west do for Peter Obi when he’s not even doing anything for himself? Should the south east not be at the forefront of this movement before asking for the south west to join? What exactly are south east governors and leaders doing to get PDP’s ticket zoned to the south?

I agree compeletely with you here(which is strange).

I dont ubderstand why Peter Obi has not come out fully for the President. Power is never given. It is taken by those who desires it.

As for the SE Govs and Leaders, no comments.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar
Nice

Pdp ....a party with ideology

Which kind yeye ideology be dat?

By the way, Segun Oni? Former Gov?

From Ayo Fayose to Fayemi to Segun Oni. Former Govs who came back after losing 1st term and winning a 2nd term!!!

Na only these people dey the state. Damnn it!!!

chigoziri2403:
I am disappointed in Kagame,I thought he was different from other Africa leaders

You thought very wrong indeed

He is a Tutsi. The Tutsis are a minority and are still ruling over the majority Hutus. This was one of the causes("excuse" for the genocide against the Tutsis

swimnigeria:
See how warped and unsympathetic majority of Nigerians mind have become. I am a police officer and I it's notworthy to say that virtually all of us have our friends, parents, uncles & aunt and husbands as police officers ........

Who would wish that his/her family member die like this gallant officer lying in his own pool of blood? Moreso now, a police man is dead and y'all celebrate it and no one is asking for #Justiceforthedeadpoliceofficer... If the reverse was the case y'all will start asking for Justice as if one life is more important than the other ....

During the endears era, in bet we all beared the brunt of not having the police around. Even as a police officer, I remember paying touts at every junction just to allow me move from one place to the other ....

You cannot continue to praise your corruption Polithiefcians and blame the police,who are poorly funded mostly, for extortion....

RIP Gallant PoPo.... Your Country Failed you.�

Please dont assume that everyone here or even most are supportive of this madness. Some of us are appalled by this. To see this man(who is a father/son/brother/husband/child to someone) in his own blood is terrible.

Do not let this dampen your service or your spirit.

We also know though that there are clearly issues that some persons are reacting to, viz: the very bad way some police officers and other security agents have treated members of the public including the extra-judicial killings. It is just unfortunate that people on both sides who are badly hurting and have serious trust issues one to another have not yet fully understood that all of these exasperated by our failed Govts and "Leaders" .

RIP to the fallen officer and to others who have died in the ongoing madness

This doesnt make any sense

I will vote for Peter Obi as President.

I still do not understand why he has not "entered the fray" yet. Power is never given. One must be deliberate in seeking it

Wait!!! Is this Twitter thing still on a ban.

Mtshewww..... Twitter that is even busier than before the so called ban!! Twitter that even some Govt officials post regularly?

Lai Mohammed and co should be deceiving themselves there

Ovamboland:
Is APC and PDP not the same again? Keep disguising

They are the same.

But APC is in power currently and are messing up. I just hate the fact that a lot of politicians are going there as if they are doing well

Sholaco:
so, what do u think is still remaining for him? Some one who had ruled Nigeria as a president. What do u think he will still be looking for?

I honestly dont know Bros.

When you find the answer, please let us know

If GEJ goes to APC, that is the end for him!!!

Been very impressed by the Southwest Govs lately. Very impressed.

For some other region Govs, esp the southeast, smdh....