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pazienza:
Anyway, I Have always known that Obailala is as Igbo as akintola was Igbo. or as Yeske, Osagyefo, Nonsowow, and other Igbo impostors running amok in this forum.

Mrvitalis. I always thought you were just a misguided Igbo.
Good a thing you have now seen the light. Welcome home brother.

Yes I am Akintola.

mrvitalis:
Oga i have told u north west did PDP as a party discriminate against them ?

Even though PDP never won in the NW, north western politicians were still heavily grounded and involved in the PDP. The PDP also had powerful structures in the north-west too and finally, the northwestern political big-wigs did not just sit down, fold their arms and expect (as a matter of entitlement) that the PDP will be benevolent and give them anything.

The politicians from that zone came together (irrespective of party affiliation) and fought for whatever they got. They politicked where they could, they blackmailed where they could, they bribed where they could and they eventually got their way. In the south east today, if one southeastern APC politician raises his voice to even say anything, the first people to mob and castigate him would be fellow Igbos, they would hate him with every single drop of blood in their veins and fellow Igbo politicians would even be to scared to show support. I could provide numerous examples where this scenario played out.

Vita let me tell you something, the greatest nemesis of Igbos rising to power in Nigeria today is Igbos; not other tribes and not APC. Other tribes are too busy in the rat race trying to scratch whatever they can for themselves and their people. The Igbos instead of focusing on the same target are busy lamenting how other tribes are not sharing the booty with them. Heck! Nigeria is a jungle where nothing goes for nothing!

mrvitalis:
Im.not talking about politicians im talking about APC and what it sands for

Who exactly is APC? Is APC a person?... APC is just a gathering of Nigerian politicians, and I'm sure you know well that Nigerians politicians are once again, greedy, self serving, and unforgiving. When politicians gather in ABJ, they do so to just grab, grab and grab!! without looking back; no one is ready to look back whilst grabbing except there is something in it for them. Politics in Nigeria has always been a game of 'scratch my back, I scratch yours'. If the Igbo nation has refused to scratch backs properly like everyone else (and like it does in the PDP), who exactly is to blame when others refuse to share their loot?

mrvitalis:
When has PDP won in the north west ...states like zamfara,sokoto,yobe , kebbi ,brono has never been won by PDP .....did pdp marginalise this people ?

What is wrong is wrong ....people didn't vote u because they feel u have no good plan for them and u show the world u hate and have no good plan for them

APC should not campaign in the south east there is no point na ...we are not important ...let they leave us alone

My igbo nation first before nigeria

You're only just being emotional here. Politicians are greedy, selfish and unforgiving. In the game of thrones, you either win or you die. Now this is not me endorsing Buhari for his nepotism, that one is senseless, but I'm referring strictly to the case of different politicians and political blocks jostling for NASS leadership positions. Everyone wants the cake for himself and in the struggle, no one is willing to benevolently consider the next person who isn't able to walk. What I'm trying to say in essence is, in the current power tussle in the NASS where it already seems like the Igbos are having no advantage, who exactly do we blame for this? If the Igbo nation is wailing that it is being sidelined or marginalized by its 'mates', what exactly do we then expect the ethnic minorities to say?

pazienza:
Oga kedu ife na eme?
You are always crying these days.

Are you still an APC member? Where are the rest of your gang , Abagworo, Obailala, that were buying the gimmick of APC wanting to zone the Senate presidency to SE in 2015, if only an Igbo APC senator emerged?
You joined detractors to bash your own people and supported all their evil agenda.

Now see how emotional you have become. What elders see sitting down, children will climb tree and will not still see it.

I hope you lots have learnt your lesson.


Udo!

Bro, politics is a dirty game in which the winner takes all. The Igbo nation politically ostracized the APC right from the start, so irrespective of the few Igbos who have managed to fight in the APC, the fact remains that these people still have no say in the grand scheme of things. You can't expect others to fight for a party, gain victory and then give a coveted crown to a group who had little impact. Igbos have no say in ApC so anyone expecting any pampering for Igbos in the jungle called politics is a joker.

cc: mrvitalis

A man and woman have an exchange of words, no physical contact involved. But because the woman is a woman and a celebrity, headlines suddenly become 'Man assaults woman'. What nonsense?!

3Ceagle:
Take a second look at the places this was done by GEJ, most of the states did not have FEDERAL universities. Let be objective about this, what may be acceptable in one instance may not be for another. Imo state already has lots of institution begging for attention which he Okorocha did nothing about. Check out Lagos state with all it Revenue capacity, what number of state universities and institutions does it have? Secondly, nobody hates Okorocha but his antics. He was loved and overwhelmingly voted into power in his first term but loosed focus when he started playing party politics in his 2nd term instead of focusing on developing Imo state.

Your opening sentence isn't completely correct; the last time I checked, Alvan Ikoku 'University' of Education Owerri is usually counted as one of the new universities established by GEJ even though it's said to be affiliated with UNN. Owerri already had FUTO. There's really no difference between what GEJ did and what Rochas did.

I personally do not support the idea of 'establishing universities' through change of name; I support the decision of Ihedioha to revert this to a poly. But let's call a spade a spade, hailing and defending one man for doing something, and then crucifying the next man for doing something similar stinks hypocrisy.

The funny thing about the reactions in this thread is the blatant hypocrisy...

When GEJ did exactly the same thing which Rochas did (i.e. converting wack Polys to Unis - a.k.a name change), I'm sure most of the people blasting Rochas here were celebrating and still celebrate GEJ for establishing 12 new universities and calling it an achievment. Now tables have turned to someone they love to hate and they are here hailing Ihedioha.

The first thing Dr Kachikwu proposed when he was appointed head of NNPC was for those refineries to be sold off if there must be any kind of productivity. The old mallam roundly rejected it, making Kachikwu look like a fool. Sometimes I still wonder why Kachikwu remained in this government.

asobo:
I won't dabble into debating on any issue with you Mr. I won't be surprise if your type still doubt the constitutional authority of the NASS to impeach your "Mr integrity".

Lol... what argument is there to go into?... How can a person be the judge and jury in a case in which he's involved?... What's the sense in that?

What exactly was the flimsy reason Saraki and his caucus illegally suspended Omo Agege?.... After the suspension, wasnt it obvious he was at loggerheads with the dictatorial Saraki cabal leading the senate?... And then Saraki sets up a committee to investigate his enemy Omo Agege and you expect the result/findings of such kangaroo committee to be taken seriously by anyone?

Meanwhile what does buhari have to do with this? How did you manage to squeeze his name into the mix?... You just exposed yourself as one of those emotional beings who see buhari in their sleep everyday so it would obviously be pointless engaging you in any serious or rational argument.

asobo:
He was indicted by the committee set-up to investigate him.


Mace theft committee indicts Omo-Agege
Omo-Agege

by Victor Oluwasegun and Dele Anofi — July 4, 2018

THE National Assembly ad hoc joint committee probing the theft of
the Senate mace has concluded its sitting and may likely lay its
report in both chambers today.
The Nation learnt that Senator Ovie Omo-Agege was indicted by the
report, with the committee headed by Senator Bala Ibn Na’Allah and
Betty Apiafi rooting for a suspension and possible prosecution.
A source close to the committee revealed that the panel may be
basing its recommendation on relevant potions of the Legislative
Houses (Powers and Privileges) Act, 2017.
“Contrary to a recent court pronouncement that the National
Assembly has no power to suspend its members, the committee was
convinced that Omo-Agege had breached sections of the Legislative
Houses (Powers and Privileges) Act, 2017,” the source said.”
Section 14(2) of the Act states : “Where a member commits a
contempt of the Legislative House, the Legislative House may by
resolution reprimand such person or suspend him from service of
the Legislative House, without pay, for such a period as may be
determined by the House, but not to the end of a legislative session”.
Section 15 states : “A suspended member of the Legislative House
under Section 14(2) of this Act, shall not enter or remain within the
chamber or its precincts while the suspension remains in force.”
The source said: “After an extensive investigation and questioning of
different security agencies and staff of the National Assembly, the
committee allegedly found a glaring connection between the
senator’s appearance on the said date and the disappearance of the
Senate mace and therefore may be asking for a 180 days suspension
for him.”
Besides, it was learnt that the committee may go further to ask for
the prosecution of the lawmaker for Treasonable Felony.
On April 18, 2018, some thugs gained entry into the Senate Chamber
while it was in session and carted the mace away.
The mace was found some days later around the Abuja city gate.
An ad hoc committee was then set up to investigate the
circumstances surrounding the mace theft and come up with
recommendations to forestall a future reoccurrence.

Indicted by a committee which was set-up and headed by the very same set of people who illegally suspended him for daring to go against the wishes of Emperor Saraki?.. Jokes!

Please tell us something worth listening to; what did the court say about the allegation?

Realhommie:
Labour party not Accord party.

Yeah Labour party; that was a slip of the hand.

asobo:
Just imagine a BRIGAND like omo agege who had no respect for the symbol of authority of the legislative arm of government is being presented as a DSP candidate. How can BRIGAND like him preside over his colleagues in the hallowed chamber.

What evidence do you have that he snatched the MACE?

Beadex1:
this is the main reason why Akpabio was rigged out in order to clear way for a stooge. Akpabio deputy senate president of Essien Udim

Did you just call Omo-Agege a stooge? Wonderful!

wifeesnatcher:
pls correct me if I'm wrong. he was elected under PDP in the 8th Assembly, protested against Saraki Anti FG led APC govt operation? even went to the extent of stealing mace to withheld the activities of the legislature? defeated to APC with big risk?


aside from the invasion of the NASS, this man deserved more than DSP. I haven't been lucky with such loyal person in my life

He was originally elected under the LAbour Party, he then defected to APC. After openly showing support for PMB, he was punished by Saraki and co with an illegal suspension. The man being a seasoned and stubborn lawyer instantly declared his suspension illegal and refused to honour it; and that was the story behind his tussles with Saraki and PDP.

alBHAGDADI:
That's why I told you that your understanding of the passage means Peter was telling the gentiles that they can go have sex with their sister and mother because they are not under the commandment against such.

The passage is simply about trying to enforce on the gentiles the law as a way towards salvation. That's what Peter kicked against because Jesus has already saved them. They don't need to obey the law towards salvation but towards a good life on Earth.

If you don't have the Holy Spirit, you will never understand the word of God.

You're quite a funny person bro... seems like you're just arguing for the sake of it.

When the bible said the old laws were no longer in place, the bible never taught us that there are no longer any laws anymore or that you're free to do whatever you like. Rather the bible taught us that the old laws have been REPLACED by new laws under a new covenant. The new laws under the new covenant equally prohibits you from engaging in sexual immorality. So I'm not sure I understand the relevance of this your obsession and insistence with "sex with sister" etc.

And to make it clear to you, when Peter talked about not forcing the laws of Moses on Gentiles, he wasnt referring to the laws of Moses being a way to salvation as you've repeatedly and erroneously claimed. Go and read the entire chapter 15 of Acts. The gentiles had already accepted Christ and the people who insisted on forcing the laws of Moses on the Gentiles were also believers who had accepted Christ as the true way to salvation.

Acts 15: 5. Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses."

And finally, I knew you were going to talk of the Holy Spirit; whenever they run out of ideas or are challenged to explain their position with scripture, they begin to claim they were told by the Holy Spirit. Brother, our God is not a God of confusion,, the Holy Spirit cannot give you a message that is contrary to what's clearly written in the bible.

alBHAGDADI:
If the law had permitted people to sleep with their mother, do t you think Christ would have done so? He didn't because it was against His law. That's cleat Jesus setting an example which you don't know has to do with his law. He loved his neighbor as required of the law. You say you love your neighbor because Jesus did same, but you dont know that he was simply following the law. Following Jesus is same as following the law cos he said he didn't come to abolish it and that one jot won't pass away.

The laws were never bad, the overall target was for the Jews to love God and their neighbours; but then, the laws also had a lot of little impractical clauses here and there which made them in the words of Peter, more like a burden on the early Jews. The laws were like a contract, a debt owed by the Jews to God. "I have come not to abolish but rather to fulfil the laws", by that statement, Jesus wasnt saying we shouldn't love or reverence God or love our neighbours, rather He was saying He had paid off the contract debt so we're no longer under any obligation to burden ourselves with parts of the law which were impractical, burdensome and weightless; Christ wants us to live an easy life focused on the important things, i.e. loving God and loving your neighbours, not a life where we spend half of our time worrying about not working on a sabbath or not mixing fabric etc.

alBHAGDADI:
Since you've misunderstood Peter to be saying we gentiles should not obey the law, then kindly go and have hot sex with your mother and sister tonight which the law commands against. If you fail to disobey that law, then you are under the curse of the law for obeying it.

The way you people read the Bible is horrible.

Once again, the Pharisees originally rejected the idea of Gentiles being saved, but after they eventually got to terms with it, insisted that Gentile believers nust be made to obey the Laws of Moses. Below was the response of Apostle Peter:

Acts 15:10 - New International Version (NIV)

10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

Since you claim I do not understand English language, can you knidly interpret the meaning of the above response by Peter in simple terms that I can understand. I never claimed I was a biblical scholar, but at least I have read this very Chapter 15 of the Acts of the Apostles several times. Every time I ask this question to people like you, the only response I get is simply, "you need the Spirit to understand it". Or simply "you dont understatand it". Can you please explain what is difiiicult to understand here?.. Thanks.

alBHAGDADI:
I won't show you, because you claim to know it all despite not reading the bible. Ho and study the new testament cos I won't give what belongs to the child to dogs.

No offence but this is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever come across in my entire life of discussing the bible. You claim to know the bible so well and what's in the new testament but you cant quote a single verse to support your argument; you only make conjectures... All these "my pastor/my papa said to me" Christians..

I challenge you from now till next year, show me where you claim in the new testament that laws on wearing dual fabric were abolished but laws on tatoo were upheld.

alBHAGDADI:
Since you've misunderstood Peter to be saying we gentiles should not obey the law, then kindly go and have hot sex with your mother and sister tonight which the law commands against. If you fail to disobey that law, then you are under the curse of the law for obeying it.

The way you people read the Bible is horrible.

Under the new testament, fornication, adultery, incest and all other forms of immorality were roundly condemned. That is very simple knowledge even to babies. You do not need the laws of Moses to know that.

It's wonderful how we now have preachers in 2019 who underatand the mind of God more than the Apostles who walked the earth with Christ.

alBHAGDADI:
The blindfold covering your eyes dint allow you read my post towards understanding.

Those portions concerning shaving and clothing have been changed in the New Testament, but not tattoo. Ho and study

How exactly or where exactly were laws on dual fabric garments and side hair shaving changed, and how come these were changed but irrelevant things like tatoo were not changed?...

Have you got any biblical evidence to prove your above assertions?... Help me uncover the blindfold on my eyes please, and kindly do so with verifiable evidence cos it's not enough to just yell me what your pastor or your spirit said and expect me to accept ir as truth... Thanks...

alBHAGDADI:
I find it funny how people who aren't even saved are now positioning themselves as Bible teachers. They think the Bible is some novel anybody can pick up, read and understand. They don't know that it is a spiritual book meant for those with the spirit of God in them. See what Jesus said about the Bible:

John 6:63 (KJV)
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

You can't understand them unless you are born of water and of spirit which means you are born again. Till then, you are just a natural man who will always misuse the word of God or find it foolish.

1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

It's just like a Yoruba man complaining that he doesn't understand Chinese language. But a baby born to Chinese parents will understand it easily. Once you have the Holy Spirit, you will understand God's word which is Spirit and life.

Why did I go into the above details? The man in the OP believes he understands the Bible verses he quoted which speak of the law. The natural man he is sees the verses as saying the law has been done away it and has been thrown in the trash can, never to be followed or obeyed again. That's how a natural man reads the Bible.

Before I show you how a man with the Spirit of God reads the Bible, let's first of all expose the foolishness in the natural man's understanding of the verses he quoted.

According to him, the law has been thrown in the trash can because Jesus came, died and resurrected. If the law has been thrown in the garbage, kindly tell him to break the laws in Leviticus 18, which are mostly against having sex with one's close kin e.g mother, sister, father, brother, aunt etc.

Romans 4:15 (KJV)
for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Since he says the law is no more, isn't that also saying that it is not a sin to do those things? Let him go ahead and do them.

He quoted the below passage.

Galatians 3 vs 10 - 13
10 For all who rely on the works of the laware under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[e]11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”

Clearly, he doesn't know what the passage is saying at all. To him, the passage means if we obey the laws, we would be cursed.

One thing I would want you all to know is that the passage is talking about those relying on the works of the law as a means of eternal salvation. Paul is clearly saying that if you are depending on your ability to obey the law as a means of making heaven, then you are cursed. You are cursed because you can never continue in the entire laws without breaking one. You can't at all. See what Paul said:

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

As seen above, Paul revealed that even if you keep the whole law and failed at just one, you will become guilty of even the ones you succeeded at. That is the curse of the law Paul was talking about. That's why he made it clear that depending on the law as a means to salvation is like cursing yourself to eternal damnation.

So what's the way to avoid depending on the law? The way is Jesus Christ who is the Way the Truth and the Life. You have to have faith in him to be saved. That way, there won't be any need to depend on the works of the law. As seen below, Paul said we are saved by Grace through faith, not by our ability to do the works of the law.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.


So far so good, we have seen that we Christians are to obey the laws of God unless in cases where they've been specifically changed in the New Testament e.g dietary laws washing, worship, animal sacrifice etc. The anti-tithing can't show where the law on tithing has been specifically changed in the New Testament.

We obey the laws to live right on Earth. The laws have made us realise that it is sinful to sleep with one's next of kin, have tattoos, be homosexual etc.

But when it comes to salvation, we don't depend on the law because Jesus has come to save us from the curse of the law which hits us when we fail one despite passing the rest.

Find a Once Saved Always Saved Church today for more knowledge.

All these preachers that keep mixing Chriastianity with Judaism, how exactly do you guys read the bible and still claim not to understand some simple things?

What has having tatoos got to do with anything in this day and age? The same chapter where it is written in Leviticus that you shouldn't put any ink on your body, that same chapter also instructs men not to ever shave the hair by the side of their face or wear any garment made of more than one type of fabric. But the way some preachers today condemn those with tatoos but intentionally / unintentionally ignore the other latter commands is quite confusing.

The anti-tithing can't show where the law on tithing has been specifically changed in the New Testament.

Abraham was not under the Law, he tithed once (no record in the bible shows that it was repeated) and the most important thing is that he tithed 'willingly' (it was never a mandatory command for his to tithe).

Likewise Jacob, he tithed willingly as a personal sacrifice to God. Keypoint is that he did it willingly, he was never under any command to do so.

The only place where tithing was made mandatory in the bible was within the Laws of Moses. I understand your current argument is that even Christians in 2019 are still under the laws of Moses?... How then do you explain this verse in the book of Acts where Peter condemned people preaching this very gospel you are currently preaching?

Acts 15:10 - New International Version (NIV)

10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

The above verse were the words of Apostle Peter condemning the elders of the Church for insisting that if salvation must be preached to the Gentile believers, then the Laws of Moses must also be extended to Gentiles. Peter described the Laws of Moses as a burden which they (Jews) were not even able to keep.

My dear brother, it's never too late to learn, unlearn and re-learn. That's what 21st century literacy is truly about; accepting that what one has always known and believed might not be correct afterall.

Ruddyman:
We should fight to make our institutions more transparent and assertive in carrying out their duties ....that's my take on things like this

The people with the constitutional responsibility to correct anomalies like this at all levels of government are the number 1 people who are raping the system. You say we should "fight to make institutions more transparent", how exactly do you propose we fight that fight without first talking about the NASS which is the global HQ of the mess?

Ruddyman:
i HAVE NO ISSUES with this.....BUT lets start from State Exco's, The Presidency and our LGA'S....too much focus on what NASS gets doesn't make sense to me....they don't have near absolute control over our finances like the executives DO

The members og NASS receive 10x more than those you mentioned. It only makes sense that if anything must be done, the NASS is really where the problem lies.

Nigeria is definitely not ready for a democracy, that explains why madness like this can be perpetrated without remorse since 1999.

Osagyefo98:
Bukola saraki did a 4 year wonderful job to dismantle the evil machinations of buhari and osibanjo.

Nwafor orizu did wonderfully well
Mark did well...

Chuba Okadigbo all did well.


Nnamani is a thief like Ekweremmadu.

What exactly were the bad or anti-Nigeria policies of Buhari that Saraki stood against or stopped as senate president? .. Any specific examples?

In the typical Nigerian context, it appears that when a senate president quarrels or disagrees with a president we dont like, then he's automatically assumed to be a good senate president. Even if all he did was increasing the immoral budget of the NASS and/or reducing budgeted funds for important projects and applying same funds to irrelevant constituency projects, such a senate president will be termed 'good' because what he did was against the will of the presidency.

In my opinion, besides Nnamani who stopped OBJ's third term, all other senate presidents Nigeria has produced are useless self-serving rogues. I dont know about Nwafor Orizu though cos I wasnt born in his time.

Omo Agege my man...

SmartMen:
no... This news only made headline for a reason... It might even be fake lol. U don't know APC walahi. The death of that party will be the biggest miracle for Nigeria.

And what about the death of PDP?.... Remember, the death of APC will only mean that all APC politicians will crossover to whochever new party takes over.

SmartMen:
To justify removal of AIT.... Na people wey no understand APC go believe this nonesense

Are you suggesting SKY on the UK removed NTA because NBC in Nigeria suspended AIT? Wetin concern Sky and Nigeria?

It's actuallly a blessing that NTA was removed from Sky; the picture and spund quality of NTA's broadcast has always been a cringe worthy source of embarrassment. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Haha... a senate with a combo of Dino & Rochas! This will be an interesting senate. Sad that Obahiagbon didnt make it too.