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Topman7:
Are you sure this man is okay?

I just saw an Arise interview where this man was proposing borrowing 12 billion dollars?

So this is his big solution to our problems?

More borrowing?

I can’t even imagine how such humongous debt plus interest will be paid.

It seems this man called Obi is being controlled by western banks that want to trap Nigeria in debt.

Despicable.

You didnt have a problem with the $113 billion Nigeria's total debt incurred largely by Buhari and now Tinubu, with absolutely no commensurate projects to justify, but you have a problem with the $12billion "HUMONGOUS debt" of OBI?.... What sort of toxic hypocrisy births these kind of utterances?

Oga, you guys should quit trying to compare or equate OBI with the clueless failures you keep pushing up to Aso Rock. Every possible solution to Nigeria's current economic crisis requires money, and since Nigeria currently does not have money, borrowing is inevitable. The real question is, what has the borrowed funds in the last 9 years been used for?

OBI has never ever spoken against borrowing, rather he's always roared about how the borrowed funds are used. You cannot keep borrowing for consumption and expect positive results. You cannot borrow billions of dollars only to sponsor people to Hajj, buy presidential luxury yachts and planes, buy SUVs for legislator and pay N5000 to God knows who, and then expect economic growth. You guys should stop comparing rubbish!

adicius:
A young Peter Obi during the Biafra war in Anambra state. Lining up for food rations. What a pity.

If he could rise from this level to get to where he is today, then there's no doubt he would have been the best candidate to lift Nigeria out of the current pit.

RealityKings:
During the campaign Obi said he was going to remove the subsidy once he was elected.. ,and obviously the Subsidy removal is where the sudden increase in the price of fuel and other things came from.

So what exactly is Obi saying after all the President is doing the same thing he wanted to do

[quote author=arsenal33 post=132399486][/quote]Quit trying to equate OBI with the cluelessness some of you guys pushed into aso rock; the difference between both is like Night and Day....

Yes OBI said he was to remove subsidy too, but go back and read his manifesto on how he intended to remove it gradually to avoid the disastrous shock in the economy which Nigerians are currently witnessing. He also promised to directly use the subsidy savings to rapidly boost local production...

Can any of you explain to Nigerians what Tinubu is currently doing with saved fuel subsidy funds? Zero Accountability! Zero honesty, Zero sincerity!!! Just exactly what Nigerians love from leaders! Come next election, Nigerians like you would still gather to vote in the most insincere and most unaccountable individuals as leaders again, all because you either relate with their tribe, or because you despise the tribe of other contestants.... and yet we wonder why Africa never progresses.

Today, despite having Dangote refinery which can supply more that 100% of local demand, the clueless FG has been busy playing a roforofo game with Dangote while Nigeria sinks, all because some big players want to keep importing fuel from Malta...

Once again, quit trying to equate OBI with the clueless mandate grabbing disaster you guys imposed on all nigerians... A man who should be in aso rock working but is rather sleeping away our lives in London and checking his BP in paris while Nigeria sinks. You guys should keep defending obvious rubbish!

Alliswell248:
The 8.7 million Nigerians across the length and breath of Nigeria.

Come 2027..... Still voting Jagaban

You're sure Nigerians voted and will vote you again, why don't the clowns allow electronic voting and electronic transmission of results?...

Even the biggest Tinubu supporters (that would still vote him in 2027 again) agree with Atiku on the T-Pain shading cos everyone's feeling the pain. Only unapologetic hungry sycophants are blasting Atiku for that statement.

NLCreator:
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Who are the Nigerians?... You mean those renown Tinubu twitter sycophants?

jubrilELsudan:
ODE MUMU

Lol... Mumu don drop quote.

sulaak:
You can't expect me not to insult you after the stupid comment you quoted above. It's well known that only stupid people are susceptible to paying pastor tithes that end up buying Range Rover, Rolls Royce, and private jets for corrupt passports. The relationship has no wisdom or intelligence, just the typical stupid African who wants something for nothing and ends up with nothing.

So me saying that opening a church isnt a sure way or shortcut to make wealth is what you term a foolish statement?.... Can you prove my statement wrong?

So in your wisdom, just because a few pastors made money, it automatically means "ALL PASTORS are wealthy and opening a church is the surest way to make money"?..... What sort of single digit IQ produces these kind of dumb conclusions? ... And you think you have the right to insult people for this??.... Do you know the sheer number of new churches that spring up all over the place every single day? In every thousand church that springs up, how many of their pastors become wealthy? .....

Or could it be English comprehension that's your problem? Please keep your stupidity off my mentions if you dont have any sensible thing to tell me

almarthins:
What does he want to 2024 model for?

When you have some members in your fold that are very poor. See na show off be this. Forget all this pretense of looking simple and humble.

Omo, he worked very hard for his money. Just like workers, businesssmen, celebrities etc who work hard for their money and get themselves some nice things, I dont see any big deal why a pastor should be left out of this flex. That nigger pulled in N7billion just from viewership of his youtube channel alone not to mention facebook and the rest. Omo, if na to drive Range dey hungry am, he should enjoy the fruit of his labour like others.

Yes I understand your point that as a religious leader he should live modestly, but where exactly do we draw the line between 'modesty' and 'opulence'. For me personally I draw the line when they start owning 2-3 private jets and wearing shoes or suits that can buy landed properties. But then, everyone draws the line differently.

almarthins:
I am not fan of modern pastors because most them are only concern about tithing and offering that member can bring, not about their souls.

Jesus didn't have a donkey in his life time on earth, and all his deciples were mainly going winning souls for the kingdom of God. What are this ones doing?

Is the 2024 model going to carry him to heaven?

Did he mention anywhere that the reason for buying the car was for it to take him to heaven?

jubrilELsudan:
YAHOO PASTOR THAT IF NOT FOR COVID LOCKDOWN HIM FOR NO BLOW

YOU NIGERIANS ARE THE MOST STUPIDEST OF PERSONS ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET

GO LOOK AT THIS JERRY EZE BOY YOUTUBE VIDEOS FROM COVID TIME BEFORE HIM BLOW AND SEE HOW HUNGRY LOOKING HE WAS

EVEN IN THIS VIDEO HERE ....YOU BLOCK HEADS WILL SAY YOU CAN'T SEE THE HEAVY SECURITY WITH GUNS THAT ARE GIVING HIM PROTECTION YET THIS SAME FAKE PASTOR WILL TELL YOU BLOCK HEADS TO TRUST AND BELIEVE GOD FOR YOUR PROTECTION YET HE CAN'T EVEN TRUST GOD FOR HIS OWN PROTECTION THAT HE HAS TO EMPLOY POLICE AND DSS TO PROTECT HIM

JERRY EZE IS AN ENDTIME PASTOR

AND ALL YOU IGNORANT FOOLS THAT SAY THAT NONESENSE 7AM PRAYERS THAT HE USES TO SCAM YOU BLOCK HEADS HAS CHANGED YOUR LIVES ARE JUST LAZY AND DAFT CHRISTIANS WHO PUT THEIR TRUST AND HOPE IN MAN

IF YOU ALL STAY ON YOUR OWN AND PRAY AND BELIEVE YOU WILL SEE THAT GOD WILL STILL COME THROUGH FOR YOU BUT INSTEAD YOU BLOCK HEADS HAVE PUT YOUR TRUST AND HOPE ON THIS YAHOO PASTOR WHO DON'T EVEN BELIEVE GOD AND JESUS CHRIST HAS THE POWER TO PROTECT HIM THAT HE HAS TO EMPLOY POLICE AND DSS FOR PROTECTION

So much pain and anger in one post... Why e dey pain you say the man blow during covid?.... Abi you no dey alive during covid?.... Did anybody stop you from opening ur own youtube channel and blowing too during covid?

Philistine:
ok...at least you admitted church is a business

Wetin concern Philistines with church discussion?

By the way, what I said in my analogy was a metaphorical statement. If someone puts in work and sweat, be it in church work, in business, or in a craft, such a person deserves to receive returns too...

efemena5050:
Now I dont even know if I should clap for u or swear for u.....are u supporting my points or invalidating my point......
Stay one place pls thurder is on..

I'm just amazed at your point....

efemena5050:
The most stupid race.
...blacks ..
The most stupid miopic gullible humans .... Nigerians ( easily swayed and decieved)

This man (pastor) is even foolish y buy range Rover 2024 when u know next year it will become old model
..if he was sensible enough he would have bought 2027 model at least


Pls do u think this man bought this car from his own savings or money?

No it would even be stupid to buy 2027 model; he should just follow your advice and buy the 2090 model in 2024.

mipeesoft:
What about those who open their church with attachment to fetish things which are unknown to the public and the church is booming.

Just like using juju in business or at the workplace or to marry a rich man/woman or to do yahoo plus, there's still no guarantee that you will blow. A lot of people still do these things and still come out paupers.

almarthins:
Most of them are serving devil in disguise. A man of God is not suppose to show off.

Funny enough, only poor people think others are showing off... When I looked at that video, all I saw was a simply dressed man alighting from a nice vehicle. The fact that you and the blogger saw and interpreted this simple scenario as 'showing off' already speaks volumes.

Your next line of attack would be, "a pastor shouldn't be rich".... But a universally accepted truth remains that "a labourer is worthy of his wages". Just like any other worker or artist or athlete or businessman out there, if a person puts in the work, he is worthy of his returns. If you aren't happy with that, feel free to start your own ministry business.

sulaak:
All they require are stupid people like you to be member of the church

You mean stupid people like the one who birthed a mannerless imp like yourself who thinks it's okay to go about insulting people online?

Lanre1st:
But fact still remains that it has prospect for huge turnover

Tell me one business which doesnt...

lecowas:
Even though it was his mistake for not checking the expiration date earlier on, but for me, they have permanently lost a customer. Who displays egg on the shelf a week before the expiration? If na me, I go return am back, use am carry another brand. Nonsense

Lol... Eggs typically have a very short shelf life. But that shelf life if just an official date. A truth I can tell you is that even after the 'official best before' date, eggs could still be good for another month or more. Similarly, an egg could still be far from its expiry but a few may already be bad when you crack them open.

If you think SPAR is your problem, what do you think about those eggs you buy from the market with no idea of their production dates?

Righthussle:
Opening a church is still the surest way of making money in 2024.

I laugh when people say this... Just like every other business out there, you need wisdom, intelligence, very hardwork and grace/luck to succeed and become rich. Do you know how many people open new churches every single day and still remain paupers?

bluepreek:
Hmmm.....

VDM,you for try remove your body for this matter make that akpi suffer the consequences of wetin him mouth put am small na

Nigeria is such a lawless country, and it will remain so for a long time because 99% of Nigerians are like you @bluepreek; Nigerians love the lawlessness (as long as it favours them).

In sane societies, an ordinary individual doesn't have the right to use the police as common thugs or attack bingos. It's only in failed lawless societies you see individuals ordering the police to go arrest, beat up and/or lock people up without a proper court order.

Nigeria is such a lawless country, and it will remain so for a long time because 99% of Nigerians love the lawlessness (as long as it favours them).

In sane societies, an ordinary individual doesn't have the right to use the police as common attack bingos. It's only in failed lawless societies you see individuals ordering the police to go arrest, beat up and lock up another even withiout a court order.

What's the essence of conducting LGA elections when the candidates/party of the sitting governor is always 100% certain to win 100% of the seats?

When will the black man ever stop deceiving himself?

MichaelSokoto:
Though I don't support d way some overzealous men of God lampoon their followers over tithe issue, me personally I have seen d reason why we should endeavor to pay tithes cos dis tithes are very essential in d running of d church and proclamation of d gospel...

jez 4get weda pastor dey waste d money, na God go arrest am

The only reason the tithe argument keeps raging is because pastors keep threatening believers that if they dont pay 10%, they'd be in trouble. This is a lie from the pit of hell that should never be propagated.

Pastors should bolden up and tell their members the truth about tithing being optional. If you want to pay 10%, that's fine. If you choose to give 20% or 50% or even 100%, that's also fine. If what you think you can afford at the time is 1% or 2% or 5%, that's also fine.

Possibly up to 95% of people who pay tithes today give it out of fear and compulsion, not necessarily out of love, and this is how so many people and churches have unknowingly missed their blessings. The day preachers start telling congregants the truth about tithing, that's the day the unrestricted blessings of giving will fall upon the church.

Hmmm.... If Jesus Christ himself and the first apostles didn't collect tithes, on what authority exactly are the current apostles, preachers and evangelists collecting tithes from their congregation and even declaring threats of fire and damnation for those who don't pay?

The bottom line is that Tithing is optional!

2 Cor 9:6-7 clearly explains how Christians under the new covenant should give; i.e... You should give whatever amount you decide in your heart, not a specific percentage, not reluctantly and certainly not under duress of any parish pastor. That verse goes further to highlight the universal law of giving; i.e. the more you give, the more you will receive (this is a universal law, not a Christian law).

I think it's time these big preachers bolden up and put an end to this tithe debacle cos it keeps bringing ridicule to the church.

2 Corinthians 9:6-7
English Standard Version

6 The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully[a] will also reap bountifully. 7 Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

helinues:
We have watched people before him sinking down while doing I don't care.

I don't want same to happen to him

Indeed!!!

I see you care so much about his welfare!

helinues:
Hate?

Please where is the hatred in my comments?

So advice don turn to hate there bah?

Advice for what exactly? ...Does that fellow look like someone asking or desiring advice from anyone?

helinues:
Is it the little popularity that's getting into his head to be attacking everyone?

Where are the people before him? So nobody close around him to advise him to slow down.

Oh, if he continues like this, the way he would be tamed, he won't like it.

Majority of the people hailing him are nobody who can't save him should Incase things went south

Too much of everything would backfire .

Lol... the real question I ask is for those who just hate VDM; why exactly do they hate him? What exactly is the crime he's committed to attract the level of hate he gets?

Nigger is just doing his normal social media influencer things, half of society hating on him while the other half are loving him. Everyday he keeps getting more and more popular by the free publicity of those that hate him.

Hmmm... this is interesting. It takes a lot of courage to do this!

Right now the likes of Daddy Freeze, Dr Damina and co would be dusting their mics.

airsaylongcome:
I don't work for Zenith so I won't be holding brief for them. But I'm somewhat informed about these things due to the nature of my job. The branch closure "due to routine maintenance of our IT infrastructure" was euphemism for the migration. Could the communication have been better? Yes. I was only lucky to have seen it on the WhatsApp status of a ZBN higher up. They did put out "veiled" information about this anticipating that the cutover to the new system would go smoothly. Looking at the timeline, it looks like they attempted a cut over in their staging environment on Friday and that seemed to go OK which was why they went ahead with cutting over the live system on Monday heading in to Tuesday. That cut-over of the live system doesn't seem to have gone to plan which was evidenced by the delay in coming back up. Personally, I think they should have communicated better and more frequently. But haven been part of high pressure migration projects like these, I can understand a lot of things falling at the seams with intense pressure.

As a side, follow your financial institutions on all their social media platforms (or at least one). E get why

You see that's exactly my point; an end of month notice of early closure for branches isn't the same as notifying your customers that you intend to carry out an IT migration which could disrupt all electronic services. I wasnt planning to go into a branch, but it's the start of a new month and I have standing orders to suppliers and staff that should have gone on the 1st. Besides, even if they wanted to notify customers of anything, twitter is definitely not an official channel of formal communication to customers; I gave my email and mobile number to the bank for a reason.

It's normal for thing to not go as planned, it's just a part of life. But a responsible organisation should have the decency to notify their customers of these glitches, and also keep them in the loop when the issues persist beyond the planned timing. A simple email broadcast or bulk sms would have done the trick.

UyaiIncomparabl:
They notified you people. Unfortunately, Nigerians lack a reading culture and take sensitive information with levity. They sent out messages before October 1st. Just say you didn't see it.

Notified via what route please?.... Can you provide any evidence that customers were notified?... I am a customer of Zenith Bank and I received no such messages; not via email, not via phone call and not via sms. If the message you refer to is a post on their Twitter timeline, then that's a crying shame. How can such a large corporate organisation communicate such vital info through a useless twitter post?... They don't expect everyone to be a Gen Z baddie that sleeps on Twitter do they?.... When I opened an account with Zenith, I gave them a mobile number and email address for a reason.

airsaylongcome:
They started informing people as early as 5 days ago

If the image from Twitter you posted below is the actual message they sent 5 days ago, then you're obviously a victim of what @UyaiIncomparabl said above; i.e. "we lack a reading culture as a people"

The twitter poster you dropped is a notice of branch closure; that is not the same as a 100% disruption of electronic banking services for more than 24 hours (way beyond the 2pm that was even communicated). A responsible organisation should have sent out messages via email and sms not just 5 days ago, but reminders should also have been sent at least a day before and on the day of the outage. Furthermore, the moment the outages lasted beyond the planned time, additional notifications should have been sent out to custumers.

airsaylongcome:
Useless how? They were migrating to a new platform which ultimately means there would be some downtime. Maybe the down time was a bit longer than expected, but the Bank is rock solid and definitely ain't useless

What kind of irresponsible organisation conducts such a disruptive exercise without having the basic decency to notify customers?

After a barage of complaints from customers yesterday, their twitter account eventually released a measly apology claiming the disruptions would end by 14:30 yesterday, only for the disruptions to last another 24hrs without a single notification from the bank. What kind of brazen irresponsibility is that?