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cocoduck:
Please kindly give us a list of smarter ways, sometimes you people act like we were born today.

Sorry nobody here was born today, but in your spare time kindly ask yourself, those youths who vandalised shoprite warri for instance, does that help or damage the economy of the city?.... I pray we all receive wisdom.

Chiznonso:
Who started the rampaging 1st? Isnt it the Govt, which was collecting all the Oil profits, until 1999, that they fought for their 13% derivation, for 30 years straight, no derivation, do U even think the ND stakeholders has any say in the allocation of Oil assets, were they even on the negotiating table? Baba pack well, U get what U sow Folks

My Chiznonso, I have read through several of your comments on this thread. I'm afraid, I wouldn't be able to stoop to your mental level to engage in any form of exchange with you. My sincere apologies, thanks.

So according to Reno and his flock of co-travellers, Oby should have still just supported GEJ irrespective of how irresponsible his government was?

It's now official, jonathanians will never move on from 2015; a life long scar has been engraved in their hearts

signz:
Warri will still get back to its glory days and so will other Niger delta states. They'll rise from the ashes better than they were because soon that area will be the Petrochemical Capital of Africa.

Let's do the right things first. For starters make them part owners of the resources found in their locality.

Pass original PIB ( 10% to host communities ).

Whenever it's time for oil license [/s]sharing[s] bidding, award some to businessmen of Niger delta origin.

Or better still, let them have control over their resources.

A lot of people who have never stepped foot in a place like Warri obviously do not get the message the writer is passing across. The point being made is that if agitations must be done, there are smarter ways to agitate without blowing your own feet off. This case isn't all about oil because not only oil companies are caught in this mess. Just mid last year, Shoprite which has opened numerous branches in different parts of Nigeria launched a new branch in Warri. After the whole funfair and all, just in a matter of months, the services of shoprite warri were disrupted, the place was vandalised and looted by the same rampaging youths and these are the exact acts many oblivious folks rush online to ddefend and glorify because they think everything is about oil and everything is about hausa or what not. The point here is simple, the social problem goes way beyond oil.

Bubewilson:
When the rest of the world is going away from fossil fuel.... nigs are embracing it.

As massive and industralised and advanced as China is, they produce up to 75% of their electicity from coal and they are still building new plants. As massive and developed as the USA is, they still happily produce over 40% of their electricity from coal. Germany is currently constructing some massive new coal plants as we speak even though they are one of the loudest campaigners of clean energy. Only a country like the UK just succeeded in shutting down its last coal plant recently. In general, up to 40% of the world's electricity comes from coal, yet you think Nigeria which can't even crawl should be thinking of flying first?

It's a sad story... When the attack dogs have no more opponents to munch, they turn around on the children of their own masters and consume them. This aptly explains the case of 'deve' in warri which started with foreigners who owned companies, and then non-indigenes owning companies and then non-indigenes just building personal houses... When it persisted, people who should have been in position to talk to the youths or halt the retrogressive trend remained mute. It was typical to hear patronising statements like "the youths are angry cos they have no jobs" .. The monster was allowed to grow unchecked until the same 'youths' began forcefully demanding 'deve' from even indigenes and even the government wasnt spared. Government wants to build a road or a hospital, it would be required to pay 'deve' first before contractors are allowed on site. I remember the ugly saga when Ibori wanted to construct the Warri city stadium, he vehemently refused to pay the rampaging youths and had to litter the project site with a multitude of mobile policemen till the job was completed.

Such is the foolishness that crippled the town; recently even shoprite was attacked and vandalised and looted by some lazy 'youths'... Everything in the town is dead presently, numerous companies have fled and even the NPA seaport was crippled by this exact attitude. For a company like Shell to leave, it was the nail on the coffin of Warri as a 'formerly' booming economic town.

But anyway, the mental power of the set of youths we have today doesnt go beyond making claims like "Hausas and Yorubas are responsible for the flight of industries from the niger delta.... in fact we must punish buhari by destroying further and chasing away more investments." Perhaps the youths who vandalised delta mall / shoprite were also fighting injustice against buhari even as some educated ones joined and cheered on. Meanwhile, some persons bitten by this mumu bug have already arrived the thread with the mumu virus.

nyben4eva:
When you emulate a failed government, you're also bound to become a failure. Governance is a continuous process and neglecting Port Harcourt /Aba highway because Jonathan neglected it is a sure sign of bad leadership, aferall the past administration did lots of projects for the North just to buy them over.Why won't this present one reciprocate the gesture to the South South/South East.

So much for this convenient unverifiable excuse of GEJ doing plenty projects in the north. Apart from a couple of almajiri schools built, what exactly are these plenty projects in the north?... FYI, I'm not disputing that projects were done, I'm just curious to know what the projects are.

Regarding the PH-Enugu road, I wonder where you got the impression from that the road isnt going to be attended to.

amagunnerfan:
What the writer and myself and many others are celebrating is the fact that there is work ongoing on projects that were abandoned under the last administrations and the ones before it.

No one is saying the work is part but we are appreciating the PROGRESS MADE so far. Is that too difficult to understand?

Can I ask you a question? When last was 5000 MW generated until the last administration?

Fashola is working only those who have sold their souls to the devil won't and can't see it.

My point is that we should be very careful how we start praising politicians too early..

NOETHNICITY:
ur frustration is really epic. As weird as ur perception so it is dangerously shallow.
Did the so-called pple u labelled afonja not over-look the tribalism u talked about to reject Buhari in 2011?
Did the afonja pple not rally around GEJ when he was sidelined during the period Yardua was sick and supported him till he was appointed president in 2010?
Also did the afonja pple not overlook the tribalism u talked about to vote for GEJ in 2011?
Personally I'm frm the SS and I supported GEJ in 2011. But toward the end of his tenure I gave up on him seeing what a big disappointment he was. What did GEJ do for the SS pple with all the unprecedented oil boom money he made, apart frm enriching militants? GEJ govt made a whooping N54 trillion from oil boom and what does he ve to show for it?
If PMB govt makes thesame amount of money with nothing to show I ll despise him also.
The only tribal bigot here is u. Get over election loss my friend and move on with ur life.

Me I just tire for that guy and his ilk.... According to the dude and his co-travellers, they believe GEJ is a demi-god and even with the magnetude of the sleaze exposed so far, their shallowness still makes them believe gej was rejected because he was a minority. And then one begins to wonder whether GEJ was from a majority in 2010/2011 when Nigerians from all works of life and tribes/ethnicities rallied around him and made him president.

Michel2013:




_{cut the bullshit and stop denying who you are.i can smell it,i can feel it and i can see it.you are nothing but an afonja ok? it is what it is bro.
no rational person would prefer an stark illiterate man as a president in any democratic society in 21 century no matter what. but your people are known for blind fellowship to the whims and caprices of your selfish leader,with any recourse to individuality.this can only happen in nigeria where tribalism and hatred surpass any rational determinant factors.what kind of bigotic blind tribalism is that.you should be ashamed of sorry ass by now than coming out here to spew poo.}

Like I said, you are simply showcasing the limits of your mental prowess. Nothing more needs to be said.

TooNoisy:
Hmmmn,

The entire power industry may soon implode. Jonathan's privatisation was very poorly done. The assumptions used were wrong and it was more of a scam than anything else.

However, Fashola has taken too long to even understand the issues. He should never have been given power. Power needed someone who really understands the industry and could begin work on day one. Not someone like Fashola who needed six months to understand the issues and has to be guided.

My view is that the privatisation has to be done afresh!

Why are you so sure Fashola doesnt understand the problems in the power sector?... It is one thing to understand a problem, it is another thing entirely to solve that problem quickly. The monumental demonic problems in the power sector has defied even the finest brains, do you really think these demonic impediments can be solved in a twinkle of an eye?

Unfortunately the privatisation has already been done and we may just have to work on it like that. Reversing this privatisation may set us back another 10 years, cos that's about the period it may take to settle all the legal disputes that may would arise should the sales be reversed.

Michel2013:


_{i know you will never see anything wrong with your slave master because you love your chain but in any case all of us including you are feeling the beat of economic woes brought upon nigeria by your ethnic hatred of GEJ.if not how can the so called sophisticated highly educated tribe would made a choice of a stark illiterate retarded old soldier to provide the antidote to nigeria problem. education is a waste if it cannot enable wise choice in life.anyways your mean is served enjoy it while it is hot. BTW never you tell me what i ought to do with this thread.ok?}

The limit of your brain power is aptly captured in your lame attempt at tribal labelling; you think everyone is equally shallow-minded and petty enough to follow the ethnic/tribal route in everything, hence you already think you know exactly where I am from just based on my political choice.

Meanwhile for persons within this your weird ideological realm, everything must have a tribal/ethnic/clannish colouration; hence you believe everyone who opposed the return of GEJ's government (even with the putrid sleaze it represented) must have done so for ethnic reasons. Wonderful way to reason!

This article stinks of sycophancy... These guys should allow the man work and deliver what he can before they start these unsolicited praise singing..

egwekwe:
Isn't that the same sagamu to ore expressway that was reportedly constructed by Gej

Fixing of one extremely bad portion of a road isn't the same as fixing the whole road. The road is still horrible between Ore and Sagamu.

Michel2013:


_{you not the one that created this platform so save your useless suggestion.if u like go embrace a transfer but what i want you to know is that much of this economic problems would have been averted if the buhari has refrained from his use of politically incorrect statements against certain region and run an inclusive democracy instead of exhibiting hatred and vindictiveness against some sections of the country. to start with IPOB has predated buhari regime but the incarceration of Nnamdi Kalu made the group go viral.Mossob was there during OBJ,later IPOB during yaradua/GEJ admin doing their thing but this fool called buhari gave the agitation international reputation through continuous detention of their leader and continued security brutality against the agitators. Niger Delta Avengers is aftermath of this brutality. now you can see how the supply of crude oil has been cut short compounding the already economic woes of this nation unless you are unable to relate to the cost and effect theory.}

Tell these your tales to the birds, the ipob agitation gained prominence only because GEJ lost the freaking election, not because of all these trashy theories you and many other buhari haters are giving here. Obj locked up Uwazuruike of massob in a cage for God knows how long but nobody raised an eyebrow. GEJ also sanctioned the arrest of several massob men and they were treated like pieces of trash and not a single person cared; one wouldn't forget in a hurry the case of several incarcerated massob members who were summarily executed by the police extrajudicially in the Ezu river case but nobody raised an eyebrow. Nnamdi kanu had been out there spewing trash on his radio waves but nobody ever took him serious not until gej lost an election and the hatred for buhari from the very first day automatically turned millions into die-hard admirers of the hitherto ignored kanu... once again, tell these your buhari hatred stories to the birds.... and may I remind you that this isnt an ipob thread please.

TheDEVlLHimseIf:
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hypocrite

Obviously this one has no idea of the meaning of the word he just used..

The exact inane characters Omojuwa described instantly invaded the thread with their inanities. Such predictable pathetic souls..

FunkyMetahuman:
what you are looking at there will be the biggest hydro power plant in Africa.

If I'm not mistaken, that picture put up by the Op isnt mambilla.

Lol... why people dey attack the Op?

jelal007:
Don't be dumb. Does it mean whoever aint on d side of PMB hates the man? U don't knw me and u knw notin abt efforts I made 4 him. So don't come here and talk trash. 2 yrs 9months 2go and we're still talking about a whole lot of promises that have being abandoned? Abegy

What led to this exchange was you alleging that pmb was stubbornly refusing to borrow but has now eventually capitulated. Meanwhile it has never been a hidden fact (since last year) that the FG planned to borrow to plug the 2016 budget deficit. You were corrected on that simple point, instead of dying the topic, you proceeded to rant about buhari this buhari that... Look man, we all know times are hard but put yourself together and quit directionless wailing.

jelal007:
Dude,take ur advice 2 buhari. All these plenty grammar u spoke here doesn't change d hardship on ground. Accept it or not...besides u be pmb mouthpiece?

I am speaking for myself, if the existence of a person called buhari dey vex u too much, go and drink ogogoro to help urself.

jelal007:
Look slowpoke,I don't if u're buhari's mouthpiece but do take a message 2 him. He's messing up big time and he better get his act 2geda real quick. As 4u his bootlicker,take ur explanations 2a far off destination cos I don't need it.

Simple advice to you, when you want to criticise, do so with the use of simple facts and do so sensibly. There are too many gaffes out there that can be criticised so i see no reason why you choose to foam in the mouth over a baseless falsehood.

Hiploko:
I keep praying and hoping for the day you will make meaningful contributions. Pls surprise me. Has the word RECOVERED changed it's meaning because of APC? Obviously a zombie is yet to notice that APC kept churning out figures like Dasuki's $2B, N8 trillion budget, N78B and recently N3.4 trillion to keep zombies busy all week while hiding incompetence. Still praying for you sha. One day you will contribute meaningfully and make us proud. One lucky day!

To he whom brain is given, sense is expected. I'm quite sure you have a brain in your head.

Several headlines on reported loot have been reported by journalists et al. But for any lettered person who has spared a few seconds to read beyond sensational headlines, it has always been reported that only N78 billion is the actual cash which is in hand, whilst all other funds are still subject of litigation. Now that you have refused to use your brain to comprehend this simple piece of info, that is nobody's fault but yours. Thank you!

jelal007:
I don't know if its foolishness or stupidity or blind loyalty that makes some people always feel PMB is doing everything right. Besides,I made a post which wasn't directed at U. If u feel u have shit 2 say 2me I suggest u take it elsewhere. Kapish? U know notin about wat n my folks did 4 PMB,so don't talk 2me abt prejudice.

Nowhere did I mention or insinuate that PMB is doing everything or anything right; except it is blind opposition that's muddling your eyesight or comprehension, I wonder how you came about that conclusion. Yes things are tight in the country and the government isn't living up to expectations, but when we criticise, can we can at least try to do so decently without having to sound like we're just wailing directionlessly?

jelal007:
U fail 2 understand this isn't about GEJ. Did barack obama keep blaming george bush 4d recession? Nope he didn't. Now we hear PMB wants 2 borrow,why did it take him over 1 year 2do so? The man is just being a stubborn mule,nothing more.

You and several others on the thread have painted a picture as if there was ever a time the govt said it wasn't going to borrow; meanwhile this is a govt that has announced over and over again since late last year that it was going to finance up to 30% of the 2016 budget through borrowing. What exactly did you mean by saying "The man is just being a stubborn mule"?

bayelsaowei:
it would still be hard for buhari if that was the case.. because he is surrounded by thieves...All thieves...


Them go play am wayo tire...

I think structures would have fought corruption better rather than thinking one man would just come and stop people from stealing..I hope you do know that right under buharis nose a lot of monies are stolen.

Even if they steal under his nose (which is an inevitable situation in a nation of thieves), whatever is stolen can never be compared with the level at which it was happening under the last guy; in fact the last guy didn't even see anything wrong in it so that gives you a clear picture.

Michel2013:


_{zombies like you will never see any thing wrong with the dullard foolhardy bubu with regards to his obstinate posture regarding the issue of niger delta/IPOB. we all know that oil price has plunged greatly but the current low crude oil supply should be blamed on this dullard.you zombies are the ones cheering and urging him to level the agitators and militants so you can continue to drink niger delta oil.now i ask u how market? if the dullard is wise or has wise counselors he would have known that dialogue is the way to go.he wouldn't have been wasting our human and material resources prosecuting his evil and meaningless military campaign in the region.}

Are you lost?.. can't you see the title of this thread?... Why don't you kindly go and open an ipob thread please and then you can discuss your ipob matters there..

buffalowings:
K thanks for the info

But that of lagos to kano ought to be a priority
Those are major economic centers.

But here we are celebrating outdated rail service.

Contracts for the standard gauge Lagos-Kano line, and the Lagos to Calabar line were only just signed 2 weeks ago.

Lool... Pastor Omokri

anonimi:
I have a big mirror actually.

[img]https://www.nairaland.com/avatars/1nb7v0rr2go1pd1uooppvudcek8jg24k1277477[/img]

Kudos to the person who gave you that quote, at least it masks the real picture and helps you sleep at night.

bayelsaowei:
if oil price remained the same I bet you buhari won't be all jumpy jumpy looking for corrupt people...He would just have had much fun before 2019...


They won't even speak of diversification...All scam....

Truth of the matter is that, the only thing buhari truly knows how to do is to be tight-fisted. So assuming he even did no diversifying, moneys released for projects would be used for projects, we wouldn't be hearing stories of how money released to pay contractors ends up in someone's bank account and we wouldn't be watching helplessly how every tom dick and harry just buys private jets at the expense of our roads and other relevant infrastructure. If only half of the moneys signed off for projects by GEJ were actually spent for the projects, Nigeria would have been miles ahead by now and we would have had substantial infrastructure in place to help us weather this oil crash recession; that was my only grouse with GEJ.

anonimi:
You are telling us that the dog of ubima does not understand the difference between frozen accounts and recovered money, right
I wonder how you define silly.
It would be interesting to find out, surely.

Do you have a little mirror?

Johnrake69:
And am very sure you're among those that honestly believe corruption started during GEJ's administration. Nigerians have a very short memory and that is why politicians sway us with propaganda. Nigerians have forgotten how corrupt Shagari, IBB, OBJ, Abacha government were, and even the self proclaimed saint Buhari served under Abacha's administration. Among the oil producing nations, Nigeria is the only nation in recession. Now, about the forex issue, I guess you never came across the statement from Sanusi that described the current Fx regime.

1. I never insinuated in anyway that corruption started under GEJ. But you can quote me very well on this, 'corruption and looting reached a devilishly disastrous peak during the time of GEJ.' That's the reason why even though he enjoyed the highest uninterrupted oil income boom, he happens to be about one of the only Nigerian leaders who instead of growing our reserves commensurately, he depleted it disastrously. Just for your info, the amount of income Nigeria made within the 5 years of GEJ was well more than the total oil income Nigeria has made under every other president since 1958 till 2016 put together. If only a lot of people who defend this sleaze know the true extent of the destruction, I doubt even his children would want to defend him. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/08/jonathan-nigeria-earned-n51trillion-crude-oil/

Among the oil producing nations, Nigeria is the only nation in recession

Sorry to say but this is a very very ignorant statement. You have the access to the internet and google, do a simple research.

Now, about the forex issue, I guess you never came across the statement from Sanusi that described the current Fx regime.

SLS criticised the pegging of the currency and highlighted the loopholes in the policy. SLS did not downplay or deny that there was a major economic crisis caused by an over 60% drop in oil prices.

buffalowings:
OK seems like you're knowledgeable about this

But when I'm hearing that it takes 32 hrs for cattle from zamora to lags I don't even consider that fast.

The only modern rail service in Nigeria currently is the Abuja to Kaduna route, it supports trains up to speeds of 100-150km/hr. Other train services, i.e. the refurbished Lagos-Kano or PH to Makurdi etc are still pre-1960 archaic narrow gauge rail systems which can barely support train speeds up to 40km/hr. That's why you hear things like 32hr journeys.