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@4Him: Bashing the catholic sect of Christendom, agan? Ironically, its the sect that makes such a bruhaha about Easter, this past sunday. The rest of Christian sects were wimps compared to the the galantry of the catholics.

Revelation 17 :1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great LovePeddler that sitteth upon many waters:

Whos was the speaker here, in the the verse of the Bible quoted above? It is obvious that it was not Jesus! It is from the part of the Bible called revelation. Revelation still was going on after Jesus was lifted up? It seem to me, from this then, that the responsibility to provide the road map/blue print of Success to mankind, was not completed on Jesus. Who was it completed on?

If the Christians can not be certain that it was Jesus, then the possibilities of who it was are endless. It actually gives the window to the fact that there is revealed words from God after the "Bible/I mean New Testament of Jesus." If the Christian say that revelation from God ends with Jesus, one will then have to discount everything that is said in the Bible post Jesus on earth.

Al Jannah means the Paradise.

Firdaus is a certain level in Paradise.

Naim is another level in paradise.

Firdaus ala, is the highest level in Paradise. It is located under the thrown of Al Rahman, Al Malik.

Heaven is sama'ah, but never Paradise.

@M nwanko: Is marriage not ordained/commanded by God? Of course it is from God. A person who struggle daily to suppress his or her illicit urge, is a true fighter by me, as long as it is not acted upon.

No one of us is an angel. Am sure am not. I do not know about you. But please those of you who only have passing thoughts and you struggle against it and never acted upon it, you are true heros.

Finally to have suggested that a legally married couple who willingly engaged in sexual relationship between themselves are immoral people is actually bending the truth and reality of marriage. There is no marriage that does not have its hills and valleys. The successful marriage is the marriage where there is continuous struggle to overlook each spouses faults and continue mending the seams of the union. Even prophets have difficulties with their spouses.

If I have daughters, I want her to remain a virgin, until she is married. My sons, are not treated differently from the way I would have treated daughters.

@Ndipe: Okay

@Matured: You did not address my issue of bulls and goats for Noah's ark and Lut's sodom and gomorrah. I am only concerned about those two. They are long time before the Hebrew/Children of Israel/ Jews.

@Gamine: Let him contribute.

@Ndipe: I wish you exactly what you wished me. How is Alameda county? Your picture is downtown Oakland. Very near the Emporium store, and not two far from the News Print.

@Gamine: My dear lady, you can do better than this. You are whitewashing everything. I ask specific questions. You gave no answer whatso ever.

I want you to relate it to Jesus. Or can do it? Please attempt it. I want you to try.

@the Poster: According to the topic, who between the God that Jesus was referring to in Mark 12 verse 29, and Jesus is the Creator? Who is the creature? You could not have two Creators, otherwise, you will be multile god worshipper!

Who is the Creator between the Deity who was known as God and Jesus?

Who is the Creature between the two?

Who needed the other, whereas the One needed can do without the one who needed Him?

We do agree that all the so called monotheistic persons agree that God is God. But only the Christians agree that Jesus is a god! Therefore, since you open the can of worms, I will like to read how you will expalin the God Who created Adam relative to Jesus. What role did Jesus played, since he was just the word? If Jesus is your god, then know that my God does not die. Afterall you ae still celebrating the event that you called death and coming back to live of Jesus! An eager to read your response.

@Gamine: But Matured has a good point. How is it that the Friday that your god get killed is known as 'good friday?" Probably you guys are kinda secretly happy/glad that your god died, so you felt good about it. Otherwise it should have been a bad friday. Come tothink of it, every friday is good in my book. I get to go to Jumuah and friday is my birthday of the week!

@Ndipe:

Why it is called "Good" Friday" is that for the first time, after the fall of Adam and Eve, Salvation for Mankind was obtained not through bulls or goats, but through the Blood of Jesus Christ, the only Begotten Son of God. Glory be unto His Holy Name in the Highest, Amen.

I wonder what Bull or Goat was used for the salvations of those who were saved in Noah's ark, or those saved from the brimstones that befell the community of Lut (in Sodom and Gomorrah)? Can you expalin? You will see that you guys continue to exagerate the condition of Jesus, while you blindly ignore the obvious.

@Rev2bit:

Have you wondered why God rarely if ever exposes his true physical form to man? Its because IMO God has no physical form that can manifest in our domain, except in a modified form such as a burning bush or even a man (Jesus Christ!). I think at one time the physical universe was somehow perfect, but the introduction of sin ruined that.

I am not surprised to see Jesus mentioned prominently as you described "Christian concept of God!" Can God Almighty do anything with Jesus? Was the burning bush then God, or a sign of God presence to Moses, etc? It has just to be a sign, because does not have to leave His position of Honor in other to manifest His presence, His sign.

The same sign or manifestation of the presence of God, was what Moses served to Pharaoh and his court, his people and also the Children of Israel! later, it is not impossible that some researchers must have canvassed mount sanai and had walked over the place where the burning bush occurred. And they may not have removed their shoes.

As in the case of Jesus, he was not greater than just a mere sign to his people. The Children of Israel. They needed another shephard, and God provided it, in the person of Jesus. Te same way Moses was to them. Moses took them out of slavery to man, so that they may become the ambassador of true faithto mankind. Inviting people to the religion that will be the way of salvation, away from Idol worshipping. Instead, they immediately started out to Idol worshipping in form of Golden calf, from what they took from the Black Egyptians. There is no way slaves could have acquired all they left with in their exodus out of Egypt!

Jesus, was the most unsuccessful prophet, in terms of pure fellowership, from his stated ministry. If he was ever a deity, he also failed miserably. Think of it. No sooner that he was lifted up (not that he was lifted up, he did not lift himself), than the true leadership of Christendom emerged in the personage of Paul! Now thats a successly man!

The point that I have made here is that the burning bush as a place was not God. The event was a dialogue for which God chose to make Moses a prophet and empowered him, so that he can be certain that whoever followed him had followed God. Whoever saw him had seen God's emissary. In the case of Jesus, it is the same thing. If Jesus had lived and there was no miracles performed, no one would have thought of him but just another flippant. All the miracles were from God.

As I watched Charleston Helston yesterday in his timeless performance in the 10 commandment, he was telling (Nefertiri), Nefertiti that he can not perform any miracle, but he was just a mere vessel of those miracles truly performed by God. The final miracle was the death of all the first born. Jesus himself said that he was nothing (in the same way Moses said it to nefertiti), but all the miracles were from God, but he was the vessel of manifestation at that time.

I think God does not know with 100% accuracy the outcome of the (our) universe, only the probabilities to a exceedingly high degree! (ducks)….cya ‘mate'

Typical Christian thinking about God! It is no surprise that you continue to belittle God, since you made him to be a man or even the burning bush. Afterall Jesus did not know many things: the last hour. that fig fruit can never be found out of its season on any fig tree, etc. Yet you call him god, seeing that he had limited knowledge. just the same way that you said god lacks 100% knowledge. If your god lacks any knowledge, it is time you turn to the Mu""slim God who is all knowing.

@Ndipe: I read the Egyptian born psudo-mus"lim Allam, world pupularised convertion to "Christianity!" There is nothing wrong in his convertion. Afterall, it is free will. He can reconvert or convert to Judaism. I am struck by one thing though, which you as a person who lives in the Bay area did not consier in all of this.

Allam was never a devouted Musl"im. And based on his own account, he had been living in Italy for 35 years. If he is 55, he must been out of Egypt at the young age of 20! I remember my own story in the late 70's to early 80's America. I do not care how devouted you are, every Mus:lim was like a lone lamb surrounded by a large pack of hungry wolves.

It actually shows and a warning to all Mus:lims that if you are complacent about your devotion to Allahu ta'ala, the religion will fly away from you. Whats interesting is that Allam, may still have a future in Is"lam. maybe now that he is a journalist in his midlife, there may truly be a midlife crisis going on in his life.

I can see the verse of the Qur'an coming to live in his case above: The Qur'an says that a person who belief and then goes to disbelief,

Then many ahadith come to mind: A person may be a believer in the morning and by the night a disbeliver. It is vice versa, also.

Another is that a person who is destined for hellfire will change and do the work of hellfire, even when the distance between him and paradise is just a measure of forearm. The case is also vice versa.

Ndipe, for a person who is just a stone throw from Berkley, you should be more progressive in your thought than this. I can expect 'stone aged (Osisi; lol and good morning)' to take the position that you took.

This man, Allam has been a Christian for many years and it is not a news worthy thing, except that Christendom is making some ill thoughtout statement.

Allam, who has been living in Italy for 35 years, has said he was never a very devout Muslim. Still, his conversion to Christianity came as a surprise.

"What amazes me is the high profile the Vatican has given this conversion," Yaha Sergio Yahe Pallavicini, vice-president of the Italian Islamic Religious Community, told Reuters.

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@Nwando:

better than a 53 year old man thinking 6 year olds are the epitome of womanhood

How old are you, now? lol.

You may need many years, still before you reach the age of "EPITOME of Womanhood!"

@Nwando: Just imagine yourself wearing "Hijab!" You will be a riot.

But what is not obvious to you, is that the laws of Is"lam is different from the laws of each mus'lim enviroment around the world. The Musl"im hypocritical leaders have cohorted with the "Keferi leadership" of the world to undermine Is""Lam. They have been paid a few Euro, now that the green bag is not worth what it used to command.

If Is"lam is the only source of improvements for all the formerly "Bad eggs" of american Black society, then you can imagine what it has done for people like me. Afterall, I am a Yoruba man, who knows african culture very well. Isla"m had been the only reason that I have appreciated my wife's no to mean truly no! People like me have stayed away from illicit sex. And for you to use those who misbehaved badly as your barometer for Is'lam shows that you miss the mark by a mile.

Just imagine this people being non Mus"lim? Say Christian, where there is no real repercursion about any sexual deviance? They will be the worse type of persons, more than the level that you are complaining about, now. Afterall, in Christianity you can do whatever, and there is only a metaphoric ruling in the Bible and nothing literal about any punishment against any crime? Tell me here an now; would have have been any jurispudence against what you said about temporary marriageand the child abuse, from the Bible?

If you blame the ills of arabs on isl"am, where what would you credit their achievement on? Then what would you blame all the ills in the west on, considering that this week alone, the FBI and local authorities rounded up a good number of people in Florida on a Child porn? What would you blame the sexual deviances of former New Jersey's and NewYork's governors and even the current New York's governor and the republican Senator larry Craig's male bathroom's sexual solicitation? You want me to continue?

I will tell you the story of Jim Baker and Jim Swaggart and all that you have closed your eyes to, pretending as if tyey do not occur. You know better. Is"lam punishes evil deeds, then you complain. But even at that people will still behave badly. It goes to the statement of the fact that there will be 73 sects, all will enter hell for a period, except just 1.

Unfortunately, there is no other religion and sect that will not enter hell. The christians will remain in there for ever.

@SysUser: Am laughing at your entry. Its kinda show your heart; very confused. Its not showing cognitive thoughts. Your god is god. Yet he is begging God, Who is his Lord. your god is son. Yet his father is refusing him! Your god is man. At the same time he is god? Wait a minute, can you run that by me, again? It just does not make any sense! lol.

If you can take this kinda confusion, no wonder staright talk is very difficult for you to understand. O da ro. Olorun a ji wa ree o.

@Stillwater: InshaAllah, I will enter Paradise. I think you forgot that Mus"lims say that Jesus did not die and was not hung! And Jesus was not a son of God, nor a partner of God or a third of God!

What the Mus:lims have continued to do is to open the eye of your soul to see the fault of your head; thoughts. Just imagine a god that has a son and turn the son loose for sinners to kill him. Then it is not guaranteed that all those sinners will go to paradise. You will be left to ask if that god was truly a God! You will be wondering why killing a son, yet the strangers will not be guaranteed safety.


This is the issue my sister. Nothing more, nothing less.

@4Him: Aburo, Oti de. Pele. You eat no meat today. Good deal. Thee is no fumbling in my statement above. Was it not Predestination, according to the Bible that Jesus already knew he will be hung/killed, so that you, the believers in such an event be ransomed? Or lived? I thought that was the reason he was sent, as the begotten son? No?

So when he was begging in his prayer at the garden of geshemane and the crying out on the cross, were truly against the spirit of predestination, that has been put on his head. No?

Over to you, David.

And Stillwater, you are right. Where am I heading? I guess my writing is directly in line with the topic: Predestination. Think about it.

@M_Nwanko: Its interesting that the grail message came to the same conclusion, as the Bible concerning Jesus! For those two sources to call himson of god and god, I will have tos ask, which source copy what is already in the other? Is it the Bible that copy the Grail Message, or its the other way around?

@Gamine: Sorry that i spelled the name wrongly. It was not intentional. Your summation about Jesus seating in heaven can not be proven, or can it? What type of chair, etc? I just curious. You just dont say it and expect me to yuk it up. Seating in heaven; which heaven in the 7 heavens?

Further, my belief is not in question here. My condition is with the Creator, alone. I seek His Mercy, alone. I seek His help, alone. I depend on Him, alone. I am very satisfied with Him as my Protector.

Again, my apology on the misspell.

@Nwando: When i read your piece, I alway chuckle. Why I always imagine you yelling at the top of your voice. As a result of your anger, lost your voice. You remind me of a dear friend in England. When she and me go at it, she will lose her voice, before long, as a result of the heated conversation. Her name is Betty. Omo girl,I wish you well whereever you are.

The religion which you are speaking about is already in Igboland. InshaAllah, this year, I might just move back, permanently. I will make dawah strongly among my people, the Igbos. I wo sisi 9ja can't do anything about it. lol.

And stop going to the You tube too often! rofl. I am having fun with you, today. You see your guy, John McCain praying at the wailing wall? Is that political whoring or what? A christian wearing Kappi/yamakah.

@JeSoul; Relax, woman. InshaAllah, the woman will be okay. Isl"am allows viewpoints, as long as its withing Islam. Deviant majority does not truly win in Islam. Maybe the men the woman is against are deviants. Islam has its rules. If she is righ, she is right for speaking out.

Predestination was what Jesus in the Bible was trying to change in his "Prayer at Garden of Gashamene" and his crying out of "My God, My God, why hads though forsaken me," on the cross. I am using your Bible now.

Strange. But why? lol.

@M_Nwanko: Could you point out the verses of the Bible, pre acts of apostles where Jesus made the claims that you recorded for him above? Is there a proof to any of these? I guess you have to support the claims with direct statements from Jesus son of Mary. If you can't, then there is no validity. It will be taken with a grain of salt. Really as a mere conjecture.

I guess anybody can claim anything for self or those who are beloved.

@Toyin: May the Almighty God who created everything, and capable of healing your mother, heal her. Make her condition go back to the time that she did not have this illness. Ya Rabbi accept my prayer for this woman. Amin. For sure there is no acceptor of prayers but You.

@the ladies: Between JeSoul and Gemine, I had to do a tossup. But neither of you ladies won. Sisi JeSoul, please take responsibility for your own soul. No bearer of burden will bear the burden of another. Jesus carried his own proverbial "Cross." You should carry your own, too.

Gemine. Holy clubbing? The demise of your lord called for a celebration or great sorrow? Think about it. If a god/deity was killed, is that god truly God? Never. It reminds me of the Thunder worshippers of Yorubaland. They play with the people who did not believe in the first place. Scaring the daylight out of those people. (The say shango oba koso!).

Come to think of it, they say Shango hung. And they don't want anyone to repeat it. Wow. Idolatry at its core!

Where is Nwando today? I just want to tell you that I have 52 Good Fridays a year! You only have one for the worst kinda reason; death of your God!

@JeSoul: How come that you are not bothered now that you are no more a child, that a man can never be true God? Ironically, today is when you said he, this mangod of yours was hung! Yet you call the day "good friday!" It should be sad friday for you. But of course, you guys read everything upside down! The person who was hung wouldn't have called it "good friday!"

You better go to Masjid Alhamdulillah in Boston and take your shahadah. Or any masjid or mussalla around you. Every University has one on campus this days.

@Olowo tee:

@All

Can we fix it for next week wednesday. . .26th February, 2008. Time 1.00pm

God bless

You are behind by a full month, sisi. I guess the event that you are celebrating shook you to the core. magine if you were there! That was over 2000 years ago!

@Nwando: Have you delivered Aisha or Ahmad, or both or times two, already? You keep everything secret these days, from people like me. I guess you discriminate so much, you begin to "fret; wink, wink!" I wish you well anyway. We will be happy and definitely will prayer for your success.

fret not child,we're not looking for members.

Your whole statement smack the height of hypocracy! If you are not looking for members, why your "misssionaries" all over Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc? Unfortunately for those weak minded Africans, they do not know that white meat and black meat taste the same! To use Davidylan terminology the yam taste the same. These poor souls in Africa who converted to Christianity because of the few flashes of over exposed, for the most part white women "Family Jewels," to coarse them, will find at the end of day, in death that it has been deceit, all along.

Michael was never even a Christian to begin with.

I wonder what qualifies a person to be called a Christian, other than believing in Jesus' New Testament recorded drama from the arrest onward to ascension. And the supporting docudrama of Mr. Saul/Paul who finally became the primary "Figure", over and above Jesus in Christendom!

Not all Americans are Christians ,you're an adult you don't have to swallow whatever an illiterate Imam tells you.

When you say Americans, in your case it has to mean white Americans? In any case, you are right. I know plenty white Americans who are Musl.ims. And plenty more Black Americans, who you will probably call African Americans, who are musl.ims. Illiteracy to you means lack of secular academics! Well, that is no correct. These Imams you have called illiterates can read and write and speak at least a language that you know Zilch about! Yet, they could educate you in some things.

You can have Michael Jackson

Thank you. We will also have Niko Mbaga, Oyademe, Sunny  Ade, Ebenezer obey, Sonny Okosu, etc. Is.lam is about retrieving souls that may otherwise end in Hellfire!

Infact let him do the call for prayer and let the little boys in

The little boys are always in anyhow. My going to masjid started when I was a very young boy. If you dance to his "beat it music album," imagine what his call to prayer will do to your heart? Afterall he sings better, anyday than those weak and uncoordinated "Christian rock" Musicians you listen to. With their body arts and wierd performances. You need to hear Michael Jackson call your soul to prayer. He also lives in Las vegas. If you can't go to the Gulf, Vegas is within your reach. You can pull off your okey doke around here.

please make una keep am in Bahrain ,his mecca where it's perfectly legal to finger little girls according to  the moongod's 'great' law

You sound "illiterate" by your moongod statement here. Read the Qur"an and show me where moon is ever regarded more than celestral body to measure time? The same is the usage of sun and stars, etc. You already believed in what your "Illiterate" pastors and Christian leaders regurgitated to you. If only you have married a Mus"lim! lol,

That's where perverts like him belong.
amongst fellow perverts

I guess once a pervert, is always a pervert! Yet you were never a witness to his perversion! Of course you will believe it. But will not use the same yardstick to measure the badmanness of Saul/Paul. Could his case have been if you can beat them join them? Just as long as you take them from the truth? Your statement proves exactly the truth about Christianity: a sinner is always a sinner. No repentance is accepted!

If you doubt me about I'slam allowing grown men to molest little girls sexually,watch this video.
That's where Wacko jacko currently resides.

I heard that some men were rounded up on accusation of Child pornography, in some southern states of America, this week. The faces shown are mostly white, with a sprinkle of few blacks. I did not see a single Arab in the lineup. I did not see a single mus.lim also. I guess the men are not  Christian, either? lol. Woman (Okay you are an african, so I will call you Lady), get a grip on it. Christians are by and large more rotten than mus.lims anyday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16je0v1M2gM

Seen it. No one says mus.lims are perfect beings. But the Christians are perfect. So it  is perfectly safe for them to indulge in homosexualism, etc. Just have Jesus and everything will be alright. Comeon, sisi 9ja. You drive us too much.

if the above video doesn't nauseate you about I'lam then you have no soul.

Whats a soul? Do you know? What element mus be in the body so that the body is alive? lol.

moongod's  Law at it's lowest

Which law at its highest, do you know?

to this entrant

To hold up the conversion of Wacko Jacko as proof of the enduring quality of your faith is the height of absurdity.

If he had remained as a christian after his interaction with the arabs, you will use his condition to buttress Christianity. I think the Christians do forget that his brother Jermain is also a Mus.lim. There are still possible others among them. I would not be surprised if Britteny becomes a Mus:lim. The moment she starts living a wholesome live, am sure everyone will call her al the names in the book! Am sure you will miss the freak show that you have enjoyed so much.

@4Him:

Jittery? Confused? The sign of a religion in turmoil is when they glory in the calibre of MEN they can call their own.
Christianity is not for stars, it is for men who are humble enough to give their hearts to Christ . . .

Who did Jesus give his heart to? Jesus? Who owns the heart of the mangod? David, stop amusing me. I can't laugh enough this morning. I have laughed too much about my woman, Nwando's entries above.

It is for the broken, the destitute, the faint of heart . . . as such as call on His name shall be saved.

So who saved Jesus? Afterall he called out on the cross why he was abandoned (okay forsook or forsakened). This was after he had prayed for safety (okay take the "cup off my head", at the garden. Let me hear word my man. Blind leading the blind mindset of christendom.

Its an "incredible faith" because Michael Jackson is now a member? Is that how empty your faith really is?
Tom Cruise is a scientologist . . . does that also make them an incredible faith?

Use the same yardstick on all religions. Your having "hollywood" people in Christendom will not be the measure of its correctness, would it? Yet they are the most vile of  people: drunks, prostitutes, almost nude and naked at the drop of a hat! Comeon!

1. The first portion in highlights is obviously a poorly disguised plagiarism of the christian concept that the battle is the Lords.

Which Christian ord likes to fight: songod? Its obvious he is not a fighter, but just a lover! Yet the Christians are always itching for a fight. Look around the world today. Only the defenseless the christians like to fight. I see the Chinese oppressing the Taibetians. But we have not seen the combined "Police" of the world expressing outrage. It is easier to attack a smaller nation, and then begin progagation of christianity among its youth! Bringing all the ills to the adults. Watch "Christian Missionary atrocities" on You tube. You will be shocked at their evil efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq, as good examples. Even the Christian Koreans are in on the evil.

If the fight is indeed for God why are mus'lims forever outraged over mere cartoons?

I was not outraged but disappointed and wondered what was the message of the cartoons? What was it that the cartoonist was trying to convey? Was it a bias message or was it grounded is good reason? Was there a "bomb" in the time of the prophet (as)? What if you or somebody you love is given a terrible label? What if its your late forebearer? Would you at least be unhappy about this false accusation, since Christians do not fight? Who started world war 1 and then world war 2?

2. Is'lam growing from strength to strength? Yeah on the backs of increased migration and high birthrate.

I bet Siraj Wahhaj, Hamzah Yusuf are both immigrants in America. The first through Slavery. The second through the Mayflower voyage! The only true citizenry then are native people, mostly in the reservations. But some of them are now Muslims. They are liberated from alcoholism through Islam. Christianity never will offer that. It will encourage drinking like fish in the water! I leave the Islam of Europe alone. The answer is obvious.

Sure, we can't stand in the way of swords, terror, intimidation, suicide bombers and  honor killings all packaged as a "faith".

Except that you use Apache helicopter and raptor and preditor, etc to drop bombs! What about encouraging the Israelis to covet the lands of the weak, whereas, you think that will hasten the second coming of your god? Then when he comes, you will kill the Jews who refuse to accept Christianity! How can a mild mannered man return so much with a vengeance agaist his own people? And before he left this killed him, and he did not put up a fight, except that he encouraged his followers to sell their belongss and buy swords instead! I guess its not a literal statement! lol.

Bawo ni o jare, David?

@Tpaine: Slow your roll, cos. My simple response should not get you so upset like this. Direct me to your claim above. I will read that irrefutably un impeacheable entry you made about the origin of man in Africa. But please could you pin point the spot, area where this first human colony lived in Africa?

I told you my Adam and Hawa lived in Makka. Now direct me to where your nameless first human lived? South Africa, Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt, where?

@Tpaine; I do not know who is Mo. But I know who Prophet Mu/hamm/ad bin Abda/lah is. If thats who you meant, then know that his paternal grandmother, the wife of Ibrahim, hagar who bore the first child, a male named Ismail, was from Egypt. She was an Aswan woman. Every Egyptian was black. Look at Nefratiti!

Also when he was born, his mother's breast milk was not enough. A black woman suckled him. Halima, his foster mother was from the bedouin. You will see a black hue in the arabs of today. I have met some Kuwaiti people whose look will not be noticed if they were to be among my family members. Some of my people ae just like the Egyptians. We are all human beings.

I remember the Kuwaiti Ambassador whose daughter spoke as part of the precursers for the 1991 Desert storm war against Iraq. that was before desert shield. This young girl and her father, the Ambassador, look just like any black man in America or Africa. You remember the Saudi Ambassador to Washington, Banda Sultan Bas? He was right in Oval office when this last "Ahock and Awe" started. He looks black as any black man. And please note that hues of blackness ranges from almost white to black.

You tend to be so determine d to prove that Africa is where man originated. That is if you factor in Makka and the rest of the middle east as Africa. I factor that to my understanding, since Suez canal is a new thing between the two lands. In that case Africa is the first settlement of mankind; Adam and Eve.

If your nearderthal mindset is still in play, then you are still not sincere in your seeking a true belief in One God. God created everything. Nearderthal is not a human being like you and me. Just the same way that Cheatter is not the same as leopard. Or Lion and Tiger are not the same. Yet they are all Cats. Every one of them is created, distintively different from the other.

Am shocked that you guys are not believing him. Did you see his heart? Do you know whats in his soul? I believe you Tpaine. You want guiance? The first thing is to know there is no deity to be worshipped except the Almight Creator Alone. You must now shun all preconceived ideas that had kept you from belief, all along. God is not a multiple entity. He is One and Only. Thre is no known partner or coequal or associate, or son, etc.

When you have this down in your heart. Then tell this God to strengthen you in this found belief in Him. You can take your declaration of faith in any Mosque in England. There are many available to you. I wish you well. Also change that statement at the bottom of your entries to reflect your new found faith in God Almighty.

@May Kelly: There is "JUST" love, for every wife. A poor young woman who is married to a very wealthy man was only need a bungalow and a Lexus. Whereas, an older and wealthier wife of the same man knows how to handle an estate and a Bentley or Rose Royce. But of them are given full love. Each is satisfied according to her needs, as per the capacity of the man. And by the way, sex is not the only reason a man marries more than one wife.And it is not necessary if a man is financially and in other aspects incapable of getting involved in more than one wife.

@JeSoul: I thought faith in speech is enough in Christianity? Why wouldn't you believe Tpaine? Afterall, you were not there when the major events recorded in the Bible happened. But you believe each of them based on faith alone: whether plausible or not. So believe the same "Wonders" can happen today.

For me, Tpaine, I believe you. I hope you believe yourself. Your conscience is sufficient as a judge for you, as long as you are sane!

@SysUser: Whats in heaven? Jesus? Can you confirm his true state, his condition? You cannnot! Its impossible. All you go about saying is the words of Paul and the gang. Then they are re, re, re,, revised, then, re, re, re,, reviewed, re, re, re,, reeditioned. (I use MC Usman format here, just to tell you how " water is greatly too much than gari here, in the book that you relied upon).

I do not enter a religion that is man made. I am very satisfied with Isl"am. Insha"Allah, I will die on it.