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@$Osisi and Davidylan: « #158 on: Today at 07:59:32 PM »

ROFL in Ijebu
Yeah the Sunni and shia use the da same 7 Korans,the same swords and the same allahu akhbar at each others throat.
Boko haram use the same Koran too.

Seven or ten or as many styles of writing! Thats different from your KJV versus Catholic's Douwy Version, Versus Church of Jesus of latter days' saints, or you still want me to continue?

David whats your igbo name, because I will have to name my son something like Godwin in Igbo authentic language. I dont wanna ask the Mrs, just I did not ask at the time of Olayiwola and Oladunwo.

@$Osisi: « #155 on: Today at 07:49:38 PM »  

I hope you realize that some of us know about the 3 daughters of the idol allah that were worshipped and revered by Mohammad's quraish tribe before Mo claimed it was satan that made him say it
Mohammead abdallah his name was,his father abdallah.
his father was an idol worshipper
abdallah means sone of allah

You are tripping over yourself, lady. Relax. Abd means slave. Ibn or bin means son. We are not arguing about the religion of the father of Muhammad (AS). The father of Ibrahim was an idolworshipper too. Or was he not, yet Ibrahim is the "father of faith" in his time and even you Christians are claiming religious relationship ith him (AS). So does the Jew and Muhammad's completed form of Islam also claims religious relationship with Ibrahim. Where is the Wahala? And Igboland, before Christianity crawled its way to it, they named their sons Chukwu, Chukwuman, Chukwumeka, etc. Now that they are Christians, do the Igbo people abandone Chukwu as a word to denote God the Creator? You will lose a bet with me any day. Relax, I will not sweat you. I want you to concentrate on the patients.

If his father was an idol worshipper,does it take rocket science to figure out that allah was the deity?
Forget about judgement day,your initial step is salvation of which without,you are damned already.

If I follow your logic, all Chukwumeka, etc are idolworshippers or named after idols! Davidylan, whats your own name man? Remember InshaAllah I will have boys with so and so names. Read Surah mariam, again and know that Pilgrim.1 and company have sold you a bill of goods. It stinks.

@Nezan: « #148 on: Today at 02:14:03 PM »  

I have always maintained that if you want to study and know 'Tiv' people's history and culture, it will be wrong going to a Hausa man to relay the Tiv history to you. You first of all go to Tiv people and learn whatever you want to learn about them. How will you know Jewish history from the koran? For the story of Isaac and Abraham and Sarah, read the Torah, the authentic Jewish writings instead of relying on the plagiarized snippets from the koran.

When the TIV historians are lying, then if the Hausa man is a speaker of Truth, you have no choice but to reexamine the whole thing, and therefore establish a new veracity that will be permanent. My proof; Torah, sabur and injil are alway going through: revisions, republications, rerevisions and yes, the versions are many. This isjust n the hand of the Christian. In the hand of the jew, it is another big story; from reform to conservative to ultraconservative and the many acidim sects, with different Torah, the matter is not settled yet.

Compare that with the Quran; even the Shia uses the same exact that Sunni uses.

All the older writings from the Torah to the Bible agreed on this, why should I agree with somebody who lived thousands of years after the event to tell me what happened. This is where we knew that YAHWEH was not the one revealing all those satanic verses to mohammed. It is only muslims who are constantly feed with lies from the koran that can believe such nonsense, funny!

Even if the new comer has the best of information, while the statement already on ground is riddled with lies, inuendos and fakery? You see why Nigeria is still backward, considering that you are a leader i the making, succumbing to archaic mindset?

I asked you again that you should show me the satanic verses and all you said was that the idols were flying cranes (birds)! Does that make any sense to you for a big bird like cranes to exist in a desert town like Makka, where the only bird that was known to be known as a native specie was the tiny bird in the Surah The Elephant? You seem to me as a person who will not listen to ny voice of reason. Crane Bird in Desert?

All the prophets believed in the coming of the Messiah. mohammed only knew Jesus as a prophet, but Jesus was not just another prophet,,,,,,,,He is the Messiah, the Redeemer, the only Begotten son of God. mohammed, desparate on forming a new religion, tried to copy Christian beliefs, Jewish beliefs and arabian fairy tales into his fake book. Bet you me, mohammed was ignorant as regards the place of Jesus in the salvation of mankind. He didnt know what the word 'Messiah' meant, funny!

If somebody is foolish enough to say that I beget a daughter, Mukina who I love very much, the person must be a liar. No? That is the same with God and his beloved Messenger prophet Jesus. And Jesus was referred to as massiah ibnu Mariam in the Quran in many chapters; Nisaa is a very good example. And if Jesus was the redeemer, I wonder why the new gospel carries a verse saying that on the day of Judgement, some Christians will tell say to Jesus that they performed mighty Miracles in his name. Right there and then, Jesus will deny even knowing them and they will be herded to lake of Fire! Thats where you wanna end up , man, as you continue to blind yourself with unsubstantiated claims, yet you have not performed any great miracles to even qualify for audience with Jesus before you are told "go to hell?"

Jesus never preached 3 Gods.
Christians never claim to worship three gods.
Trinity is not three Gods as your 'boko haram' tutors will make you understand
Read my posts on the Trinity. One God manisfesting himself in three,,,,,,,,,
The Blessed 'TRINITY',,,,,,,,,,not the three daughters of allah

Then the preacher(s) of three gods are idol worshippers! Three gods you deny their existence in Christendom? Then count with me the gods;

1st god; God the Father.
2nd god: God the Son.
3rd god: God the Holy Ghost

Stop all of that nonsense. The three gods by the magic in trinity becomes on god! And I only heard about boko hara the other day, and i have known about your three gods, as early as I could remember anything from my mother, a former Trinity follower/believer. Say what you wish, the facts speak for themselves.

@Nezan: « #144 on: Today at 01:41:07 PM »

What makes more sense to you? Believing a god that had only a single prophet-mohammed or a God that manifested himself through thousands of years through different prophets with a consistent revelation? mohammed's god has only one prophet-mohammed, the other plagiarisations about Jesus, Moses etc and the patriarchs was just to appeal to Jews and Christians with the aim of hodwinking them to accept the false religion of islam, just as the three daughters of allah were incorporated into the koran to appeal to the pagan arabs. Funny!

For Muhammad to be the only Messenger and or Prophet of Allah the Almighty Creator, you will have to proof that Allah is not the Creator and God Almighty, in the Arabic language just like Eledumare in Yoruba language, Chukwu in Igbo language or Obangiji in Hausa language. You also have to proof that Jesus was a Christian (lol; I have to laugh) and that Ibrahim was a Jew by religion and by heritage (I have to laugh here, again).

What was the consistent revelations through the many prophets? Is there a message? What was the message of Noah, and what is the difference between it and that of Ibrahim? What is the Message of Musa and how consistent was it with that of the two aforementioned and whats the agreement with that of Jesus and where is the difference with that of Muhammad (AS), and if many diffeerences, list them? I wonder how you will get god Jesus a human being out of the mouth of Musa? A human being being victimized by his fellow human beings? How do you fit Judaism and Christianity into this consistent revelation?


And as to the daughters, if a man who is not a father was told that he is a father of two sons, will he not defend himself by saying why do you give me sons and take for yourselves beautiful daughters? That satement alone is enough to tell anyone who has any sense of prose in a hypothetical speech that the individual says clearly that he does not have any son, een without adding "that is an unfair division" to it. Read Surah najm, again and know that you have goofed very terribly.

« #2 on: Yesterday at 09:17:27 AM »
Quote from: mukina2 on Yesterday at 01:17:40 AM
Then what is this thread doing in this section?

when did olabowale stop being a muslim?

No other muslim (trolls) is invited. . . . , simple.

The write of the bolded sound like KKK or Skinhead guy who tells people that he is a good guy by having a lonely token type for show Black man as a friend! The same black man will be accidental shot or hurt by him or his resist buddies, if he were to go hunting with them or go to some auto racing event with them. It will open season on the black guy.

I dont know whether i should laugh or cry, since I see the disdain of the writer against the muslims. He calls us "trolls" and he thinks I do not remember that I am a troll in his eye! Religious bigot.

@Aloy_Emeka: « #4 on: August 08, 2009, 03:37 PM »

So Muhammad Ali is not really a muslim?. I used to think the nation of Islam is a more liberal form of Islam.

Protestant is a more liberal form of catholic, will be a more right or more correct statement that what you have said above. Afterall, you both have 3 persoanlities god. Sorry, I wantd to use the "G" but my conscience took over, forcing me to ask myself, which one of them will deserve a "G" versus the others with "g"? Or are they each "G"?

And the devil wears prada, so take off your sunglasses. It aint that cool any more.

@Davidylan: Continue to deceive yourself. Qulub is heart. Read Ayat 10 of Surah Baqarah and see the end of those whose hearts reject Islam. Dey dere.

@$Osisi and Noetic:« #61 on: Yesterday at 11:24:43 PM »  

Quote from: noetic2 on Yesterday at 11:21:34 PM
amen    
and so shall it be!

Two prayers that will never rise beyond the lips of those who made them. And the Hijaba has been pulled to vail it from ever rising to the samaah and never will Sultan lil Arsh accept t. Amin Yaa Rabbil Alammin. My face belong only for the worship of Al Rahman, the One created it in the first place and will repeat it for the day of Judgement.

Osisi, no suicide for me. I still have many many nights to enjoy in Owerri, and all the way to "Aba." There are Amakas, and Chidi and Chukwuma, etc, all my sons to come. Give me time, woman. Did you see how long I ask Allah to let me live? How will a person like that commit suicide? I wanna go out with your greatgreat grandchildren, walking me to Mosque, not because I cant do it myself, but because he loves this "old man" who doesnt wanna grow up.

Osisi, you are so funny. the devil in me? How is that possible? I say audubillahi minal sheitani rajiiim. Shaitan and me cant be in the same clique. Am with Allah and shaitan is enemy of Allah and open enemy to me. Shaitan is doomed.

@reindeer: « #55 on: Today at 10:19:46 PM »  

I see the salvation haters are all out in full effect.
Ride on, The church is marching on and the gates of hell cannot prevail.  
[b]The good part is we dont need to fight for jesus,

You are correct. You are in good company. The company of Peter. This is your first. There are two times waiting for you, maybe because you do not see Jesus, one thing is enough for you.

when people like Alhaji Olabowale and Abuzola open their mouth and confess that JESUS IS LORD,Satan himself will be put to shame.
Halleluyah!

lol. If Jesus is Lord, holy spirit that was sent to support Jesus is lord and the Sender of both Jesus and Spirit is lord, too? I need One single Lord God Creator Allah the Creator of my beautiful face that I make sajdah to Him with. I have 124,000 messengers and prophets, including in them Jesus son of Mary (AS), Muhammad son of Amina for father Abdullah (AS)!  

« #56 on: Today at 10:36:48 PM »  
I just imagined Alhaji on the pulpit,oh la la
he doesnt even have to shave his beard, it will all add to the glory of God.
And imagine this, Abuzola as his pulpit boy  
Ministering at the ex-zealot ministries inc,
Alhaji and Abuzola, what say ye?

Abuzola and me are in the religion of Adam, Idris, Nuh, Ibrahim,Ismail, isiaq, yaqub, Asbati, Musa, yahyah, Isa and Muhammad (AS). Allof them are in the religion prescribed by their Lord, on the pat that is not crooked. All of them were Muslims. Should I then go to the religion of Paul so named by some people from Antioch? Never!


@$osisi (f): « #57 on: Today at 11:05:12 PM »  

I have been marked and sealed and so is all my generation.
devil can't touch this.
As for me and my house,we shall serve the Lord
Halleluia!

There is no devil here, so you are safe to be opened and erase off any unnecessary markings. Afterall, Muslims say at least at the beginning of the Prayer or recitation of Quran; I seek refuge in the Creator Lord of All things (Allah) against the accursed devil. So you are in safety, lady.

« #58 on: Today at 11:12:31 PM »  
Ephesians 1 3-14

This Ephesian is from Jesus or somebody else? Seriously.

If somebody had written a book and attached it at the end to things fall apart, and proclaimed Chinua Achebe as the writer of all, even as he praised my main man "Mr. Achebe", seriously, will you accept the claim that the whole book was written by him?

This is exactly what you are saying here!

If Allah Wills it so. But i want to be here for a long time, to see $Osisi and her family, grandchrildren, great grandchildren, etc become Muslim. InshaAllahu aminin.

@$Osisi: « #41 on: Today at 02:17:36 AM »  

Quote from: reindeer on Yesterday at 11:19:53 PM
My dear Abuzola
first its R E I N D E E R, not redeener, get some specs

You obviously dont know my antecedents on nairaland, you could checxk through my profile and see all posts made by me so far.
I came to christ through a testimony shared by Pilgrim 1 last September,and i cant even remember seeing you on those discussions back then but hey fact is fact, im now in christ, old things have passed away, all things have become new.

So what did she say that stuck out in your mind? The fact that she lied on Muhammad (AS) or the fact that she knew nothing about islam or the fact that she had no Iman (faith)? My proof of her lack of faith was that even as she wore Hijab and Kimar that did not stop her from running after white boys (I have nothing against white people. She could have been running in the same way after a nigerian boy, I would take the same position).

It would have the same effect as if I were to get into my car right now, pull the top down and with my long beard and agbada, go cruising down the boulevard with music blasting chasing after the sundress wearing white women! You see how odd that is? I still like the young woman Pilgrim. And all her experiences ran up to and beyond September 11, 2001, since she said she lost a soldier boyfriend in Afghanistan and she was invited to Arlington national cementary in DC where the boy was buried! I didnt ask her if she was wearing Kimar and Hijab for the ceremony. But that beside the point. IF I remember, many muslims were victimized right here in NYC. People were killed by even angry black men and women, and it was a good time for the rednecks to abuse, kill and oppress many apeople! This is the testimony that took you over? You must have been weak, and if you were ever a muslim, you were the male counterpart of that beautiful girl named Pilgrim.1!

Christ reigns and no force in hell can stop that. like i told the poster, its not about islam so dont take it personal or get aggressive.
Its just the triumph of light.

I see. No wonder you light too much candles, too often! Where did Christ reign, again? If on earth, he was supposed to be the king of the Jews (Children of Israel), no? Tell us where was his throne, since we know where even Solomon with1000 wives and concubines reigned from? And there are Angels guarding hell. Maliki is the chief. hell is created by Allah to punish disbelievers, and you sir, reindeer you spoke too precipitiously.

you too need to ask yourself the same question, when you are lying on your bed at night, alone ,then you'd realise just how much you need Jesus.

Jesus and Abuzola and me, we all need Allah! Why leave the Creator and worship the created? Reinder, open your eyes, and stop behaving like an elephant marching into a covered pit. Its a booby trap. You will fall in and you would never be able to come out.

Wont be surprised if this thread disappears soon.
some people get itchy when they see Christ do what he's always done: rescue weary souls.
Know jesus, know peace!

Reindeer there was never a time you were anything else but a christian. If by Pilgrim.1's concorted story you became a bigger keferi, good for you. Small keferi, big keferi, keferi is keferi, and Allah promised to herd them all like cattle into hellfire! And when you lie against Jesus from the Bible who said on his own "he could do nothing," then I wonder what was it that he was doing? Savaging weary souls or it was the weary souls being fooled by Shaitan thinking Jesus was salvaging their souls?


@$Osisi:

Don't mind them
There were also some Muslim nairalanders that were being followed up by pilgrim1 by email after that powerful testimony .
Seeds were sown with that testimony and they will germinate.

Germinate like vines that kill good and usefull trees and or like thornes, with its deadly spikes or dandilions, all of them are not desired. They neither provide shades, or habitats or nice to look at. They in their evilness compete with goodness.

Thank God for your life.

You this young girl. You talk as if you dont poison. Yet your intent is to catch unsuspecting victims. Stop commot for road, let me enter my house! lol. Did you read my post about the comedy skid of Richard pryor? Ir was about this dude asking Richard to help him down from a rack, where he was left with a wedgie. Its funny but you will not laugh. So I will send it to your email, if you want. Yes? And my case is already written: Olabowale a slave of Allah, died on XX/yy/2080
You finally got tired of using Boko_haram, I guess or did I force you to quite?

As I look at the face of Dr. Mark Gabrael, the now Christian, for Muslim, I cant but wonder that was he really a muslim before his seeing the three gods who are by a simple push of a wand become one? I know thesigns of muslims, at least those of fair/light almost white skin, from the Arabia;

Even though they may not have a sajda spot/mark on their face, you cant but see the shape of their forehead being Flat, matching the contact of the prostration place(s)! Mark before he became it must have prayed from babies, like every other baby because the standing and its stillness, inserenity, the bowing and the prostration are all so intriguing to children. Coming from a muslim enviroment and being an arab, I just do not see how mark (sorry Dr. Mark Gabrael) could have all of a sudden lost all and any trace(s) of this religion. That guy was always Coptic Christian, and neer once in his life a muslim! Thats my story and am sticking to it. Olaadegbu, it will be interesting to see you do expose on new converts into Islam among the English people; the whites. I know about others, they are Britons.

@« #38 on: Yesterday at 03:40:16 AM »

olabowale
this your Egyptian wife is in Lagos? abi didnt you say she's Egyptian
How you dey hold bodi while she does the work of Allah 8000 miles away?
hope no temptations abounding in your various vicinities?

Abi iwo fe wa ni? lol. Alhamdulillah, I am long time pass threshhold of being seduced by "community properties." I dont like hangers on women. No ma. I am only interested in Independent women. Little bit jaiye jaiye and at the same time, foko niyi. Those are the abowo fagba and at the same time oloyaya. You wouldnt no a woman like that in the Australian subcontinent consisting of Australia, Newzealand, Vanuatu, etc?

Women like her is rare, and she is not the half Egyptian woman. That one her time will come, very quickly, say in December. Zainab does not live in Nigeria and am not a man who bundles a woman as if she is the shell of the snail, or that of the Turtle, etc. Islam is good for her and I thank Allah for it.

@Olaadegbu: Whats the exegesis on this verse, other than derogative statement about other people, calling us INFIDELS?

1 Timothy 5 Verse 8:

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
If anyone doesn't take care of his own relatives, especially his immediate family, he has denied the Christian faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

King James Bible
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

American King James Version
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

American Standard Version
But if any provideth not for his own, and specially his own household, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.

@Olaadegbu Ogbeni oja, when Timothy called people infidel(s), thats inspiration from God? When Jesus called people dogs, thats inspiration, too? When Jesus said he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, that was inspiration. No? Now when all of a sudden he is said to be the one to have been sent to the whole world, tat is inspiration, too. No? Now which is the true inspiration between being sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and all of a sudden by his after leaving the earth followers to all mankind? Or was one a temporary inspiration or what? I think your answer will surprise everyone; Temporary, one inspiration is fighting another on the same subject? I wanna read this for the ages.


And I ignored the three gods turning to one God, or the prophet turning to god, or the former comforter who is a human being promising another comforter, who miraculously became a voiceless, formless, unable to teach, instruct, remind, and elevate correctly the image of Jesus and his mother without over doing it like the Christians; catholic calls Marry mother of god and venerates her (~Lady~, sorry), and almost all christians take Jesus as god or son of god or both, but always deep themselves in his blood ($Osisi, sorry), as if the blood should not be stale or dried up by now.

Olaadegbu I wanted to write, before somebody go crazy claiming that I bastardized their name

Olaadegbu ignored all that I wrote above, since its an affirmation of death from the NT's Roman 1 verse 32, riddled with death. He coyly went to a presentation of Jesus versus Muhammad as if there was a competition between the two. But Olaadegbu for got that Muhammad (AS) if you speak about wars and battles, etc, is sandwich between Musa the true liberator of the Children of Israel (from the hands of oppressive Pharaoh and his army, am sure you remember that), and David the child warrior (who killed Oppressive Goliat), etc. If Jesus had lived in these era, from his childhood personality of overturning the tables of the MONEY CHANGERS and his adulthood instruction of Selling cloth and buy swords with the money, would have been sure to fight against disbelievers until his last breath. But wait a minute, his so called followers, the "CHRISTIANS" are doing the bidding in his name; Crusades, Inquisitions, World Wars.

Sorry, he did not have strong faithed people around him, the only reason he the former Comforter knew that Allah will send another "future time" Comforter in the personage of Muhammad (AS).

Olaadeggu, ma ga ara e nbe.

@Papa giddy, Ladygaga and No2Athiest, etc: Please explain this one from the Bible to me, the portion particularly which spoke about "Death" to the offenders?

Roman 1 Verses 28 to 32, especially 32:

28 And just as they did not approve to have God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a mind disapproved [of Him],—to practise things not befitting [His creatures]; 29 having become filled with all injustice, destructiveness, covetousness, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, guile, malignant subtlety; secret slanderers, 30 open slanderers, hateful to God, insolent, arrogant, boasters, inventors of bad things; without obedience to parents, 31 without [moral] understanding, without good faith, without affection for kindred, without [consent to] truce, without mercy: 32 who, conscious of the righteous decree of God that those practising such things are worthy of [the sentence of] death, not only keep on practising the same, but also are pleased with those that are practising them

Papa giddy: « #13 on: Today at 01:30:26 PM »

well, i have often said that you can not call yourself a good Muslim if u have NEVER killed.

You are right. I have killed; my out of marriage desire, my wanting to smoke cigar, or drink brandy/cognac, and other worldly enjoyment into excess. I am sure you do not wish to kill any of these, your reason for not wanting to be muslim!

in fact ALLAH Commanded all Muslims in Surah 47:4 To smite the NECK ( KILL) of anyone that does not accept Islam.That they will be help helping Allah by doing so .
Surah 9:19 explains that KILLING of christian will attract more rewards on the last day
so by not killing , Muslims are not practicing REAL ISLAM.
I was surprised when some crazy Muslims on NL were saying no christian was killed and no church was burnt. quran has actually misled a lot honestly!!

How do you read this verses from the Bible, differently from the above verses that you ignorantly quoted from the Quran? Roman 1 verse 18 through 32. Do you see that disbelievers should be killed? Am I not a disbeliever to you, afterall, I am not a Christian? Read again and open your mind and know that while you lambast Quran and islam, Bible and Christianity and Judaism are far worse. One does an overkill, never forgiving, the other is a lying hypocrite, claiming not to do evil, but actually the head huncho of where evil is hatched, prosecuted, etc.

@No2Ateism: « #7 on: Today at 11:19:37 AM »  

Olabowale please stop displaying the deep seated desire to kill non-muslims (which is obvious that you have )
WWI and WWII had nothing to do with faith, do your best to at least study history before uttering incoherent responses.
What we have here is that:
- muslims killed 3 people who refused to convert to islam even at the threat of death.
end of story. This has nothing to do with WWI or WWII.
One thing is for certain from Olabowale's comment, Olabowale supports and sanctions the killing of non-muslims (his statements shows that) so at least there is no need to start beating around the bush again.

I wonder where I clearly stated that it is Okay to kill non-muslim? Could you point it out please. My saying that death comes only by the permission of Allah is true. Good people will die, just as well as bad people. Heck, you a Christian says your god died already, even though I say that he is no god and his death will come only later. Oh was your god a bad person, hence death came to him?

« #8 on: Today at 11:22:03 AM »  
- if i understand you correctly, that means you are saying that the people were beheaded for refusing to convert to islam by force was ordained by Allah  
Thank you for finally admitting that you are serving a blood thirsty god that ordains the beheading of people that refuse to convert.
At least now u done expose yourself and your belief

I wonder how I exposed myself? Please lets see it, except that I said that you cant hang Islam on a Boko haram, because you will be leaving someboy like me out, just the same way I will be leaving you out if I hang WW I and II as the symbol of hristianity! Will it be savfe to say that all Nigerians are criminals because many are 419s ad other types of criminalities.

@Timmy7:« #13 on: Today at 06:39:10 AM »

Chei, abudumohammadins!!! so, what's d import of this post

Definitely not abdalmuhammadin, but Abdallah. Muhammad (AS) was also Abdallah, not by father, but his own personal name. You are also Abdallah, except that you are a stiff necked man who is denying his true nature. You remind me of a guy who begins to wear earring, or clean shave the face, religiously. They want to deny their no earring and hair on the face nature. Oh, you miss the point. No2Atheist got maybe 10% of my message. I think he mislabelled me as a smooth talker. Naah. Am just defending my religion, trying to set you guys straight.


@No2Atheism (m): « #15 on: Today at 11:33:09 AM »
[Quote]- olabowale is obviously a smooth and deceptive supportive supporter of islam.
- the boko haram killers were following islam.
- force conversion in islam includes and is not restricted to killing, beheading, taxation, harrasment etc.
- islam calls for forced conversion.
- olabowale is lying wen he says boko haram are evildoers considering that Mohammed himself did worst.
- Since mohammed and boko haram did the same things, then it means Olabowale just confirmed that Mohammed is also an evildoer.[/quote]Mr. no2atheism, you must know how to lie faa, or are good at inferencing through some remote process. Or you are a genie who already came to my home, but then cant read my mind, then turned to another "god" and still unable to read my mind?

If Prophet Muhammad (AS) and his companions (RA) were indiscriminate killers, it would have been unimaginable that any one who was not a muslim can be left to be alive in the height of Islamic authority, extending from the time of the opening of Makka, all the way before the century or two that say the end of islamic dominance in Europe while operating from Spain. Since we could not show that the sword was just going in and out of the nodies of "non Muslims", then your statement holds no merit.

Less than 50 years ago in Ethiopia, the late tyrannic leader "Emperor Haille Sallessi" and his Christian squard, the military gangs of killers, used to wager among themselves so that they can kill muslims by simply for example take opposing positions about what is inside of a pregnant Muslim woman; boy or girl. As they decided and take their positions, they just slice the stomach of the woman and comes falling out is the fetus will the mother fall and dies, along with the baby! Thats the handwork of "Christian elite", and it reminded me of the earlier tyrannical King Pharaoh who ordered that males be killed of the Chilren of israel, while leaving the weaker gender the female to live. You see while one was able to give the order to kill all male child, the other, by being silent and allowing the process of evilness to continue, actually sanctioned the behavior of his uniformed men!

Muhammad (AS) before Islam supported and protected the weak in his community. I think you guys should now refer to what Khadijah said to Muhammad at the event of his telling her what he saw of Angel Gabreil. Finally, Muhammad did not hate anyone, except that God Almighty hates the same person, and you must see here that Muhammad is that Another Comforter by the description of "what he hears he will say or do." Unlike you chickens, the yellow bellies who will not fight for your God, but fight for your personal honors, your not being obedient to God makes you all disbelievers. You will say that you are peaceful and forgive and pray for your enemies, but none of you can turn the other cheek and let go. Look around and tell us which Christian society has ever practiced it?

Not all muslims in america are Nation of islam. As am concern, they are not muslims because they do not make Salah and they read too much the bible, while they do not read anything from the Quran. If you have seen the inside of any church with the seating bench arangement, you have seen the inside of the nation of Islam's temple!

Thats not islam.

Below is a dialogue between me and a nairalander, just about 3 hours ago. He being a Christian was firm in his position, against Islam. You see, everyone has an opinion based on their experience.


sel: hello olabowale, this is Gods-Son from Nairaland.com
lfhb_maw: God has no son, man
lfhb_maw: but how are you, schal
sehl: wats ur own now?
lfhb_maw: nothing man.
lfhb_maw: 9ja man. na wa 4 u o
sehl: am good
4real: u would have just sed u tripping for my name i would understand
seal: ok
lfhb_maw: God servant I am
sehel: lol
sehal: i'm David from makurdi uu?
sehel: yup we r all God's servnats but he has made us his sons thru jesus christ
lfhb_maw: am Olabowale from NYC.
lfhb_maw: makurdi near lokoja, Kanji Dam?
sel: yup Benue state got it
lfhb_maw: ok
sehel: r u quite familiar wit d ladies
lfhb_maw: what ladies?
sehl: i mean gals
lfhb_maw: i dont go to romance section if thats what u mean
lfhb_maw: everyman is familiar with some thing am familiar with ladies
lfhb_maw: ok girls
sel: oh u understand do u know about dating?
lfhb_maw: am an old man man.
lfhb_maw: i am a muslim too
sel: ok
al: just wanted to ask a question but just forget
lfhb_maw: i am not going to encourage u to do illicit sex
sel: nooooooooooo
sehl: i dont do such
lfhb_maw: u better become a muslim and we will be good friends
lfhb_maw: okay so am listening
sel: hmmmn
sel: lol
sel: muslims so i'd become a murderer?
lfhb_maw: no. I dont murder anyone and am muslim for more than half a century.
sl: muslims r killing pple randomly in northen nigeria just in the name of converting them is dat fair?
lfhb_maw: never committed a terrible crime even as I have spent over half of my life in yank land, with all the crimes around me.
lfhb_maw: north nigeria is not the symbol of Islam
lfhb_maw: Quran and ahadith are
sel: u r not reading the news
lfhb_maw: you should blame the muslims who are dong these things
lfhb_maw: i live in the west and I know the news too man; immediately as it happens.
sel: they came in the name of duri halam dont know wat dat means they destrroyed houses killed thousands of pple in six different states and u r telling me to be a muslim
sl: neva
lfhb_maw: and crime is not part of Islam
sel: ohhh u think i dat naive
sel: how about the suicide bombing the terrorist attackes etc \
sl: u think we dont know
lfhb_maw: u are naive to believe that Islam is all evil
lfhb_maw: the same naivete a man has when he thinks all nigerians are criminals
sel: every one does so dats y muslims r haunted in america and europe
sl: they dont lyk muslims am i lyeing?
lfhb_maw: how about USA, england and all the so called Christian countries killing people with bombs
lfhb_maw: thats a good thing?
lfhb_maw: please my man, thats not a way to argue
sel: i dont know of dat except muslim suicide bombers
sl: JIHAD
lfhb_maw: you see why I said you may be talking out of naivete
sel: I AM definitely not naive ok\
lfhb_maw: Islam is deeper, the evil doers are not truly following Islam when they commit their crimes
lfhb_maw: I hear you. You are not naive
lfhb_maw: sorry
lfhb_maw: lol
lfhb_maw: my son, lets become friend and I will show you the goodness of Islam
sl: but how come most muslims r killers? may be ia m a lil confused lol
sl: noooooooooooooooooooooo
sl is typing a message.
sl: GOodnight its night over here
lfhb_maw: you see, how come most christians are killers
lfhb_maw: Hitler, Mussollini, etc
lfhb_maw: George Bush,
lfhb_maw: First world war
lfhb_maw: Second world war
lfhb_maw: that will be a bad argument
lfhb_maw: Good night my young man
lfhb_maw: its 20 to 10 pm
lfhb_maw: bye

@Aloy_Emeka: I cant second guess anyone. I read Quran and ahadith and Sirah of the prophet (AS) and his Companions. Then I study the actions of the 2 following generations. That and others, others being expalnations or guides to the former.

When you guys use this type of issues to classify, should WW I and II be out of the questions to classify Christianity, among other ills?

@Kola Oloye: « #41 on: July 15, 2009, 08:19 AM »

Sir, Thank God you went through elementary class where you were taught that 2+2 = 4. Let us assume that as at that time you were so naive you couldn't argue that, what happened now that you an adult that you still believe your teacher? The answer is simple: No one has been able to prove otherwise. Likewise that of Jesus when He told us that He is not of this world why should we bother ourselves that He was wrong when His statement had not been proved otherwise.

My intention s not to overtly antagonise you. But if I follow your above statement as a process to determine what Jesus is, I will have to accept that Jesus was fluctuating 100% Human being in many instances. And when one can argue for his divinity, one will have to refer to his statement of Mark 12 Verse 29, where he clearly states that he and his audience have the same Lord God who is One, just like Isiah and his audience.

I see that you did not even put up a front on the matter of Mark 12 verse 29. Lol.

As for his lineage not claiming the Almighty God as their father was simple : Joseph slept with Mary before they were conceived whereas Mary was a virgin and she was not impregnated by Joseph before Jesus was born.

Did I miss something here? Virgin and disvirgin. Disvirgin and Virgin? Osisi, this is your interest, since you are a Doctor. Disvirgin first, then virgin, again. Osisi, please explain.


[Quote]Truly, the balm of this world healed his wound simply because he carried human flesh. Remember His kingdom is not of this world because the way you and i was given birth to was not the same with Jesus.He was not formed from any man's sperm.[/quote]I thought he was dead! No? What tradition put balm/oiltment on the wounds of their dead? Was this part of the Jewish traditions on their dead, or the people knew that he was not dead, hence happy to hide this fact, but then helped him to heal fast by the robbing of oil on his wounds?

And as to the lack of sperm to produce him, we must not forget the egg of a woman was present. That made him human. Now compare that to the first human, male Adam, and the second hum, but first female Eve. I submit to you that their creations are more difficult to the human eyes than the creation fo Jesus which has just no father element. But each is simple to Allah, exept that they are unique in their ways. Adam no father and no mother. Eve, Adam is father and mother or a source of cloning while Jesus son of Mary is with mother only. All is Be so it is!

« #42 on: July 15, 2009, 08:33 AM »
To His ministry there was a specific time and while He was rounding up He asked them(the disciples) not to be afraid that He was going to send that another comforter that is the spirit that would be dwelling inside of them. So he asked them to tarry in the city of Jerusalem until they were filled with the holy ghost and power.
It was with this power that they were able to conquer and also performed miracles.

First, Saul who later became Paul was not included in this "Another Comforter" cum "now spirit by your induction" people to experience the visit. This you must agree with me. Yes? If we are in agreement, then I bring you to provide the answers of what did the spirit acting as the another comforter teached, instructed, reminded and how did it glorify Jesus, or in defennse of Mary the mother of Jesus? If you list them, I will list what Muhammad did in teachinh, Instructing, Reminding and how he glorified Jesus and kept he and his mother in a honorable place! We must list all the qualities of the another comforter and then see if the holy spirit even pass muster of say 10% of it, and then see if Muhammad did not pass 100% of it.

While He (Jesus) was with the disciples He was their comforter and they were not happy that He was going away- that was the reason He promised them "the new comforter". That new comforter "The Holy Ghost" is the one with every born again Christian today. This spirit is the True spirit of God. Thank you.

If Jesus was the original or former comforter, then the new or another comforter must have exactly the same nature as he. No? Count them.

Jesu was a son of a man, so was Muhammad, and spirit was not a son of man.
Jesus ate so was Muhammad and Spirit did not.
Jesus has a religious communit, so was Muhammad and the spirit was not
Jesus was hated by hs community, so was Muhammad the spirit was not
Jesus spoke audible words, so was Muhammad, the spirit didnt
Jesus had a book, so was Muhammad, but the spirit did not
Jesus was persecuted so was Muhammad, the spirit was not
Jesus gave a sermon on the mountain, so did Muhammad in his farewell sermon on Mount Arafat, where was that of the Spirit?
Jesus left Instructions, so didMuhammad, but where is the instructions of the spirit?

Now Muhammad taught people to all things.
Muhammad Instructed to all things and of course the last segment to complete islam as it was brought to perfection.
Muhammad corrected people as to the true mission and instruction of Jesus, after people had overzealotly bastardized them
Muhammad returned the honor of Jesus including that of his mother, mary who the Jews accused as bastard and fornicator, respetively.
While you guys are calling Jesus another vesrion fo God, and father another and Spirit, yet another, Muhammad told you that Jesus was simply a prophet, a human being and have all the trappings of humanness, including his mother being human, and that the spirit is nothing more than Angel Jibril and God is Allah and your Creator not your father!


@May kelly (f){ « #43 on: July 15, 2009, 04:08 PM »

@olabowale
What is the lineage of mohammed? and O O O. Pls provide the one u kn. I don't need long talk or argument. You already kn that of Lord Jesus Christ i assume. So can we kn that of your prophet Mohammed?

I know that Muhammad's father was Abdallah and his mother was Amina. I know that his father's father was AbdalMutalib (Slave of Mutalib, his own Uncle), and they are from the Ashimi clan of the Quraish family, whose bloodline to Ibrahim was from Ismail (AS), the first son and one time only son of Ibrahim!

By the way, as to Jesus, you call him lord, his lineage, if it is true that he has no father, will have to run through his mother mary. Now tell me who was the father of mary, and the father's father and the father's father? Can you trace that to Ibrahim, or go furter to Adam, and considering that only a handful of people entered the vessel with Noah, tell me in particular the man who is connected to Jesus among them. I am now calling your bluff, woman!

And how do you explain his sonship to God, by this human ascendancy chain? Who was really the son of God who became the father of Jesus son of Mary? When you guys open your mouths, just because we do not put you in your fakery place is not because Islam does not the answers. We may not have it on Nairaland or just want to avoid unnecessary arguments.


@Kola Oloye: « #44 on: July 17, 2009, 10:05 AM

@olabowale,
Sir,Have you gone through my response to you? I believe you are satisfied.
May the Glory of God never depart from you and your family in Jesus amen (amen)

My man, you stank up your prayer by your Idolatry ending. Finally I was not satisfied at all. I simply asked you for the thesis on mark 12 verse 29, and what you gave me was an approach of a one begging the question. Its an Obtruse position that you took. No am not satisfied. You see, I repeated it for emphasis.

Ladygaga must be from Creaptonic planet. She writes in a language that is difficult to understand. Please, its the weekend, I have adopted $osisi's never to argue on weekend dogma. As I hate to see death by a man visiting on another man, I do believe that no death comes except that Allah ordained it.

And Olaadegbu, Davidylan, etc including Noetic2 all live in the West, and they see the influx of western natives into islam, yet they are stubbornly arguing for a 3 in 1 godship. (Osisi, since you said that I made fun, now am saying it with stoic face, no smile, no expression, no nothing).

I can expect all the Christians and Atheists arguing against Islam as in above. But am shocked to see JeSoul in here, after what she said the other day about the Muslims effort for Islam and against others; Christianity for example. You see my dear beantown lady, however you prepare clamchowder, if there are no pieces of clams and potatoes, the creams,a nd seasonings can be the clamchowder.

What you have demostrated by your effort of putting a word or two for the benefit of Christianity is natural, and it is the same natural inclination that you tried to deny the Muslims, just less than 3 weeks ago. While you are fighting for the soul of a naive 16 year old boy Monsuru Adeniyi, who for lack of better expression is deluded by whatever is happening in Nigeria;

Count this; Oluwaseyi Williams became Muslim, in Lagos.
Solomon Uwadia, a medical Student at University of Benin became Muslim, this past Monday.
A Calabar native husband and wife lawyers became Muslim in Lagos.

All of the above, except Oluwaseyi Williams came by Allah's Mercy through my Owerri Lawyer Wife.

Osisi, I am turning loosing Zainab on you. By the time the lawyer argues with you, in thorough soffistication and sincerity, I wanna see that "little black dress" be covered with Abaya. And you know that you will look even more gorgeous. So woman, ready for December Shahadah, at the latest. You cant hide, not from PURE FAITH! And your oga will easily capitulated, you see.

Noetic2 does not know a single Woman Pastor of Christiendom. David, so fun ogbeni Noetic pe won po bi aja ninu omi ni america. And america dictates the "tone" of the world, maybe, but definitely the "tone" of Christianity! Now take that to the bank and its a certain payday for you.