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@monsuru ad; You are a 16 year old man. Now I wonder what is your reason for wanting to leave Islam? Will you tell us, or you can tell me by email; aqeedahfirst@yahoo.com. I really wanna know, without trying to guess why. Thanks.

And Nezan is ready to have all his on earth! Lol. Why, the earth is not for the holy Christian god, like that!

« #22 on: Today at 10:50:47 AM »
Another lie from the pit of hell. Is islam older than christianity?

Yes. Islam is older than Christianity. And when you attempt to proof how old Christianity is, I will proof that Islam is older. Remember the definition of Islam:voluntarily submitting to the Will of Allah? I know that Cain the son of Adam was not a Muslim. But Abel was. And I know two people who were older than Abel who were Muslim? Now tell me who was the first Christian and I will tell you he was a latter day person.

@Nezan: « #140 on: Today at 11:44:42 AM »

@muhsin,
I can never believe in a revelation by one man.

You need many, many men and women; (Ruth, Ester, etc) within different times, different mindsets, and different religions (Judaism and Christianity, and I will not mention Idolatry) to formulate a Book, which you must believe because some people said to you it mysteriously came from God and not from men and women! Okare, omo naija. Be ni tie nri.

God revealed himself through his prophets with the same message.

What was the message? He is One or He is 3? Please answer with some intelligence and I do not need explanations from you. I know the position of All prophets, including Musa and Isa Bin Mariam (AS), and then the different position you ascribe to Isa bin Mariam. Sorry Jesus. ($Osisi, you see I am not laughing, even though I was tempted to put the LOL).

mohammed's message was quite different from all the other prophets.

Whats the difference; the fact that Muhammad says that 3 gods is hogwash and or the fact that he says that your father is different from your Creator? Is Muhammad, not like Musa who did not claim divinity for himself (Musa that is), or is Muhammad unlike Jesus who said "hear oh Israel, your Lord and my God is but One God"? Nezan, answer my questions, man.

Why did he write that ishmael was the son that was to be sacrificed while all the prophets agree on Isaac?

Are you sure that any prophet agreed on this? Woud Old woman Sarah, based on the personality Picture that was painted of her, from the Bible stand for the attempted slaughter of her only child, at such an old age, if we take into consideration that she forced Jehovah/Yahweh to throw out of the house a gorgously pretty younger woman with a baby ( Infact or 13 years old, guys?), without a known family or supporter outside Egypt (Hajar and Ismail respectively) into the street; wildernes, just the other day.

Do you think she will have none of that shenanigan or charade to let young Isaac die, and what for, only to test the faith of the old man Abraham, who could be easily be dissuaded from ever thinking aloud and we cant imagine him even trying to do anything that off the normality of expectations, while Sarah is still alive? I think you forgot who is the boss, according to the Bible, between Abraham and Sarah.

Plagiarisation/distortion of the highest order.

Whats plagiarism in writing the truth about a story that have been warped by earlier writers? Is the story of Ibrahim not the story of mankind? Was he not an example of faith in play? Show me how Sarah could have allowed that nonsense that you said her husband was going to do with her only child, when she easily forced the husband and their Yahweh/Jehovah to acquiesce to whatever she wanted on the matter of Hajar and Ismail? What would be her reason to continue to live if she would allow that man to kill her son, knowing fully well that she was old and probably will not have any other child, ever after that?

Consider the younger, timid, meek, and according to your Bible, the slave "Girl" Hagar who could easily be over powered by the more authoritative husband or even wife. Afterall, they send her out of the house. They may just as well snatch off from her her son. Who will defend her, who was she going to stop them or who would she report it to? Let me ask you, dont you think that this poor Ismail would be forced to take the position of the more important Isaac, in the matter of something that perilious as "Slaughter?" It did not start out as attempted slaughter, it just ended that way based on the faithfulness of the father, son and mother and of course, the Mercy from their Lord!

Mercy is not domain to the free and mighty and powerful and influencial, alone. It covers everyone, including slaves as long as Allah wills it. Read the way the ransome of the little boy was described in the Quran, (a mighty ransome) and compare it to what is called in the Bible. Big difference and the procedure of hajj even include this "trial" of father, mother and son. Where is the process in theJewish or Christian religions? Afterall, the Jews observe the victory over Egypt and will this be any less mportant, if it was Isaac, because I do think it should at least have the same weight. Afterall, there would not have been anything called Israel or children of Israel, if Isaac was slaughtered. No?

The same would have happened to Christianity and Christians, who celebrate a mere birthday for a whole month and sets up the year end to be 8 days after it, plus the fact that you celebrate a mere tiredness without a visible pulse or sign of life, on the cross. My proof of his mere tiredness was that the blood still flows freely in his body, ecept that the people did not know that when a person dies, the heart does not beat and pump blood, hence the blood does not flow as it did on the cross!

The story kinda reminds me of "its the body of Esau, but its the voice of Jacob", a later gimmick and I would have thought that is something learnt. Nezan read between the lines, here. You are a smart man. I know. Otherwise, you would not have been in the seat of Governance; Abuja. I am teasing him to some importance.

@reinder: You they mind this bloke called Nezan? He fit jealouse to much. I yab am say he dey jealouse about 72 georgeous women, he say i dey tangent for topic. Him forget say him sin from him father and mother (adam and eve) no go let him free for life. And its either he dey carry some sin on him head for life; cradle to grave, or him sin don dey comot because some guy's blood in a bowl wey he dey swim for inside.

Either way one promise him god from him bibeli no dey keep. Ogbeni Oja Nezan, I have your number.

@Countrygirl: I live in New York City. I see that you are in Brooklyn, not knowing which neighborhood though. Islam is not an african or an arab, etc people only religion. Muhammad (AS) was sent to all mankind and Bilal bin Rabah, etc, were representing all blacks.

Masjid Taqwa is on Bedford and Fulton on the A train line at Nostrand stop, or you can do the Special from the 2, 3 etc lines to Franklin Avenue. AA, C lines stop at this station, too. When you get to masjid Taqwa, you will see muslim women and I can send you to a store there, on the Bedford street side of the Masjid. Go to Muhammad Harby store, and I think the attendant is a woman. But can enter any store and acquire whatever you want. You can enter the masjid to pray, Read Quran and make supplication and remembrance to Allah and seek blessings for the Messenger (AS), among others.

But you are a yank, and more importantly a Muslim woman. There should not be a timidness about you. Afterall, you have Allah on your side. At Taqwa masjid you will find a lot of muslim women there, entering masjid and doing things.

Go to the first Restaurant there on the side, when you are heading to Franklin from the front of the masjid and on the same side. The owner, an egyptian has daughters who are University student and his wife is there, too. Ask anyone of the the women for assistance. My email is aqeedahfirst@yahoo.com if you need to talk and I may give you my phone number and recommend who you should talk to that may assist. I will talk to husbands of wives in the area so that you may be connected with believeing women.


Marhaba.: Welcome to the best part of the rest of your life.

@Davidylan: So what do you think about this Biblical verses?: Roman1 18, 29-32, Proverb 13 verse 24, 22 verse 15, 23 verse 14, and 29 verse 15, Hebrew 12 verses 9 through 11, Hebrew 12 verses 5 through 11, I think.

I want you to be honest and tell me if there is no "kill the disbeliever" verse in this list?

@Ladygaga: You will agree with me a person who just wipe his/her butts with toilet paper/tissue, cant be as clean in the butt like the person who used water in addition? That person is therefore forced to wash his/her hands, unlike the paper user, who may not even wash hands, and just continue with the daily business.

The man who does not shave is identified as a man, even from a far, rather than the one who shaves everyday, adopting the ways of the female with smooth hairless face. If he is handsome, in the winter, he may be taken for a girl, afterall everyone is wrapped up. The man with hair on his face, will definitely have a good amount showing, even when he is wrapped up. Some of these clean shaven face men do wear earring(s). Is that what you want for a husband, when you are going to bed, both of you removing your earrings?

And if you see a muslim who is smelly, believe me, he/she would smell worse if not muslim. If you think you are a clean woman outside islam, I assure you that you will be cleaner. Afterall, you will at least clean your butt properly than what you do now. And if I were to accept your statement about the muslims being dirty, except that I know better, one will have to disregard all the wealthy muslims, in their epensive clothings, homes and exotic performs. The best and most expensive perfumes are with the muslims and the hindus, not the christians. You dont have a religious law that encourages you to take shower, or wear clean cloths or perfume yourself. If you do, lets see it and I will show you from Quran about showering, and clean cloth, and from ahadith about simply clean cloths and perfume.

@Davidylan: Now by Chapter 2 Verse 257, you should eat your words, now. Read it and convert to Islam.


Muhsin Khan: Allah is the Wali (Protector or Guardian) of those who believe. He brings them out from darkness into light. But as for those who disbelieve, their Auliya (supporters and helpers) are Taghut [false deities and false leaders, etc.], they bring them out from light into darkness. Those are the dwellers of the Fire, and they will abide therein forever.

and Yususf (AS) was incarcerated. and Jacob the one you claimed got the new covenant and defeated your god in a midnight wrestling, had to prostrate his face, he and his boys, including Judah, where Judah, Jew and Judaism and Jewish were all coined! so being incarcerated is not such a bad thing. yourbest friend, Awolowo was incarcerated. No?

@Tudor: over 1400 years ago, the world was not ths populated. I hope you know that. And the sighting of the Indian King, etc is not recorded in the Quran. So much for your knowledge of the Quran. I am wondering if you believe anything except that you see it? How did you come about? Now trace your human steps back to its origin, you will find a single man and his Creator! The moon has been determined to have a crack, by the Apollo 1969 moon astronauts who landed on its surface.

@Davidylan: « #39 on: Yesterday at 05:24:57 PM »

yeah . . . allah probably understood that suicide bombers, terrorism and boko haram could move mountains faster than meaningless arabic incantations.

What incantations?


@timmy7: « #41 on: Today at 11:32:36 AM »

Whc allah b dat or whc reward r u talking abt

Islam Allah. He says the work of believers will not go unrewarded.


@dadde

@babs787. Can you tell us in your own view why Jesus needed those swords. Pls your reason should have biblical or quoranic(if any) proves.

Thats not the responsibility of Babs787, to proof your Bible's veracity, reading hiding meanings to it. What is clear is clear. Jesus in the Bible said to his disciples, buy swords. They went and bought swords. Whats there to try to interprete aginst this very command and obey statements in the Bible?

what this islimic apologist are trying to do is just to tie Jesus to violence.

No muslim is trying to tie Jesus to any violence, other than what are recorded in the Bible: Physical violence visited on the "Money Changers when he was a little boy." At least it was a sign of temper tantrum. As an adult, he prepared, like Messengers and prophets of the Children of Israel before him, he acquired the best weapons at that time, swords, except that he did not have the conventional power to match; population. The only reason America has not tried to subdue China; shear population.

The whole world knows that mohammed is a blood thirty freek,that is why no other religiön (except islam) can recorn with him when peace is mensiond.

There are human expectations. The yoruba says only a fool will not get angry in extreme circumsatnces. If you push a coward to the extreme and have no way to avoid you, he may just turn to you and roar like a lion. A goat cornered may just turn and bite or head butt you. And even Jesus could not contain his preparedness, except that he was overpowered and Allah intervened for him.

all muslims should cover their face in shame

Why? You coudn't even turn the other cheek on this one. So much for obeying Jesus. So much putting Bible into its actual practise.

@Tudor: « #10 on: Today at 09:43:49 AM »

Are you an illiterate?
Did you not go to school or is quranic education that daft?

No. But you sure sound like an educated illiterate with the below.

Who recorded the split moon?

Those who saw it. Primarily the pagan arabs who ascribed it to magic. By that they remained disbelievers, until Makka was opened by the believers under Muhammad (AS), their leader. Also seen by an Indian of Asia King and his kingdom. They believed in it and at least the king and many in his Kingdom became Muslim as soon as they realised that it was conneceted to a human Messenger Prophet (AS)!

If your prophet did indeed split the moon in half the whole world would have seen it and recorded it, or did they not teach you in arabic school that the earth has ONE moon and a split moon would be seen and recorded by at least half the world. . .eclipses that occur are seen by many regions thus are recorded by different people but in the case of your lying prophet only he and his followers saw it. . .how gullible can people be!

Again, you seem to be talking from both sides of your mouth. Since the miracle was primarily meant for those who asked for a sign, and specifically the splitting of the moon, they saw the miracle happened. Those who share the night with Makka if the weather was clear, like a starry night without clouds and if looking up would have seen it! Its not like the moon was allowed to stay for hours or a relatively long time or all night long in the divided position. No. It was for a short time, long enough for those who have faith, regardless their location to see it. If you and I had been alive, I would have witnessed it, and you Tudor, even if I show it to you would have seen nothing or take it for something else other than what it is!

And the eart is not flat. The whole world does not see the same time all together at once. At best 1/3 of the world surfacewould have been exposed to the moment of the moon split, and we must factor in hat others are doing and the weather conditions. Makka was a desert and its evening will be different from that of other climatic and vegetation conditions.

@Wirinet: « #112 on: Yesterday at 02:04:50 PM »

This was Jamiru's original question;
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please athiest, has evolution ended its evolving or are we still in the process?

It will hard to believe that Jamiru or those who are not evolutionists meant anything but creationism, when they asked the question type hilighted. You as a person who is arguig for evolution should know that architecture on its own does not evolve, the designer evolves in his style of design to fit the usage of what the dwelling will is to be.

I tried to explain what evolution means and how evolution can never end. I was using architecture to explain an example of what evolution means, it is wrong to assume evolution only applies to species or specifically to man.

You could have helped your position if only you could persuade us that after the the structure is in place, it somehow evolved to a newer, completely different thing, however subtle, but adapt perfectly with its usage. For example a piazza suddenly becomes a building by growing walls and or roof to house people from the weather elements, or a building elongates by many floors to house more people or the materials, eg glass door becomes a wooden or steel door on its own because it senses the possibility of its sturdiness, or to hide the interior from the view of people outside. In short any and all of its changes on its own without the humans to put them in place.

I am sorry to say that your example makes no sense; ]b]Architecture is a human trait,[/b] and what do you mean by unchanging humans, are you talking of unchanging physical characteristics, or unchanging needs and technology? please elaborate.

Architecture is more that human trait. Every animal is an architect. The rats develop their own dwellings. Beaers are the best dam constructors, ever. Unchanging human simply means the human is constant in what makes him human, in his physical characteristics. He is different from lions, for example. I am avoiding to use Chimpanzee, or other so called primates for obvious reasons. Needs and technology depend on the stage and state of the necessity of man.

I also want you to know that there are two schools of Architecture; there is the school that believes form follows function, while another believes function follows form. And I am more inclined to the latter.

Just like design styles are restricted to void versus solid and or solid versus void, you do not ave any third of the expression form follows function or funtion follows form.

your final statement is what i will call for lack of a better word "jagbajantis", First no body had been able to build a 200 storey building, the highest building is about 120 stories and it is in Taiwan. Secondly the pyramids of Gaza which is quite tall (i cant remember its exact height), and numerous ancient buildings were built without cranes and machinery.

Wirinet, you should now better that tere was a time in human history that 10 storey building was a thing of the future, becasue it was unnecessary. Before long 200 storey building and higher shall be a thing of the past. Reason, sometimes in the future, even the today's cutting edge technologies shall be yesterday's archaics. And by the way, you forgot that I mentioned cost effectiveness, so your Giza pyramid was a labor of slavery. Is that emotionally efficient even for an atheist?

When we study Architecture, you will study the evolution various styles and elements. An example is the evolution of Benben to become pyramids.

This is reason Darwin proposed is evolutionary Hypothesis, a theory yet unproven? Where is the natural selection in the the benben to pyramid evolutionary process according to you? Did amggot developed Benben and Human developed Pyramids?

@Nezan: « #94 on: Yesterday at 05:01:42 PM »

BTW, who is saner? you or I
Dont you know people are tired of you here including your muslim brothers?
So you dont know that your type are promised 72 full breasted women in paradise?
Or are you ashamed to admit it?
Better seek for knowlegde from the older muslims, my boy.

And you are no more a sinner, with original sin from Biblical Adam hanging on your head like a halo? I think you are jealouse of a man who will be rewarded, especially no wthat you are doing an old hag, if you are doing anybody at all? A pair of flip floppers you are enjoying.

Funny. Righteousness is a filthy rag! If this is so, then I wonder that even Jesus who said why call me good, is in my company of those "filthy rags!"

While I follow instructions to recite Quran in Arabiya, I still speak Yoruba, English and other language (begging in Igbo; biko) in my Salah! I just will not follow any path, ecept it is the path ordained on mankind! This is path is Islam. And I still mentain my Yorubaness, even with all of that. Allah chose Islam for mankind, even though we are as humans a collage or kaleidoscope of humanity!

I wonder if no ritual is performed with H20 that one is not like the "filthy rag" that you are trying to avoid? This reminds me of Fela Anikulapo song from the days.

$Osisi: Sometimes, you carry the weekend to weekdays. Is there a diffrenece, really? You mut have been fooling me.

@$Osisi: This "Young Girl" loves Ijebu dialect too much. You know why I use "young girl" for you? I must be consistent with my Messenger Prophet Muhammad (AS).

Could you show me, from the many Bibles that you have in Christendom, the one that is not fake? There should be only one original, since they are so many. No?

And the Yusuf Ali and others translated "Quran", are not Quran at all, but what it "means" to the translator(s)! While everyone agrees that the Arabic Quran is the Original and the rest is used for understanding only by the non-arabic speakers, what is the language of the Original Bible? Sorry, Torah, Sabur or Injil?

We use the original Quran for Prayers; Salah, Dhikr as in reading, and others. The translations can't be used for Salah. Now tell me what is special that the Original Bible; Sorry Torah, Sabur and Injil can be used for that the fakes cant be used for? This will keep you quite one time, since you will be hard pressed to choose a Bible that will pass for ORIGINAL. I wonder what the catholic Douwy is if you pick ISV, KJV, ASV, NWV or another for your Original? Lol.


Its a good think you dont wager. You will be at the losing end, all the time. Kini big deal? Its a big deal.

$Osisi forgot that the hallmark of christendom is itself deceitful. Lie that God is 3 persons, yet by some weird condition of understanding becomes 1! I still can not understand that. Each time I hear it, I have a blank stare, or please explain that to me expression, scratching my head, in amazement! Lie that God needs to abandone acceptance of killing of animals, which parts of it are consumed by the offerer to the not fit to eat "one time killing of an innocent man", in this His Only Begotten Son, wile others are just sons and daughters. Or God of the Bible does not have daughters, since no woman killed Him "Aba" in the Bible?

Lies about developing a new religion around a message when the messenger warned about not abandoning the prophets, and laws, etc, before he left. Lie about who the "another Comforter" is when the former was a mere human being. Lies about where nations extend when the messenger himself said that he was only sent to the ost sheep of the house of Israel. There are so many lies, that I just do not know how a person will not say "big deal e ti po ju!"

@Wirinet: « #12 on: August 02, 2009, 08:22 PM »

Jamiru, your definition of evolve and evolution is just in one strict sense as applied to "evolution of species". Evolution itself in a more general sense mean a gradual change. If you have studied any discipline in a higher institution, i am sure you would have studied other types of evoultion. I for example studied evolution of various architectural Styles and element under architecture. Others studies evolution of Societies, some even study evolution of religions.

So if you want to talk evolution of Species on earth as proposed by Darwin, then say so.

Its obvious that Jamiru was inquiring about evolution of man from some remote specie(s), which is less intelligent, less important than human. This is the hypothesis that Darwin and his cronies have been peddling, not a mere usage of new building materials and elements and styles. Is there an evidence of Darwin hypothesis? No.

Your idea to indicate that 'various achitectural styles and elements' can be used to argue any form of evolution ignores the fact that the designers and builders of these "various architectural styles and elements" are the unchanging humans. The styles and elements are developed and enacted based on the simple statement of logic/practicality of Form follows function. You can't build a 200 storey high building by no use of building machineries like cranes, and yet for cost effectiveness, etc it will not make any economic sense to build it in stones, or bricks, etc! Technology is not evolution, it is simply development, not evolvement.

@$Osisi: « #134 on: Today at 09:05:24 PM »

John 1
The Word Became Flesh

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood[a] it.

6There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. 7He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. 8He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. 9The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

10He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of natural descent,[c] nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

[b]14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[d] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

15John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.' " 16From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another. 17For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only,[e][f]who is at the Father's side, has made him known.

The above does not make a lick of believeable story if we are to remove the sentiments of religion and Jesus from the content. No one in normal human thinking process will believe a word from what is written in your quote. If chinua Achebe wrote this piece, no one will buy any of the prints.

Let me task this "young girl" for the fun of it: What state was the "Word" in, before it became "Flesh?" It couldnt have been flesh before it became flesh. NO? I wanna know how $Osisi will get out of this Pickle, considering what was not seen could never have believed to be in existence, especially when we do not feel any of its effects.

What effect can you show of the existence of Jesus, before he became "Flesh" as the "Word?" And when God wanted to create man, in His our own Image according to the Bible, we did not hear any response from Jesus or the Holy Spirit. And what can you show that God the Creator has a form like man, since you said man is "Image" of the Creator?

$Osisi, imagine the same Jesus who said that he was only commissioned to gather back the "lost sheep" of the house of Isreal, would say what you just said above about the whole world, since you turned nations to mean everyone, including the faraway Yorubas who are now running into as they trip over themselves into Christianity, according to your assertion. One of the two opposing statement must be wrong. Its either Jesus was sent (you send a messenger as we see very clearly here that Jesus was a messenger) to the house of israel, gathering back the lost sheep (yorubas are not part of this), or was sent to nations, covering the whole world, if "all nations" to the disciples meant beyond the 12 nations or tribes of Israel.

I remember in my Bible in High School, that the children of israel were divided into nations or tribes. $Osisi, which disciple or disciples came to Igbo people? Forget the yorubas because we did not have any. And interestingly, no disciple was a non-Children of Israel! Who among them of the disciples represented the Africans, or the Europeans, or the Asians, etc?

So when did Jesus command a trinity, when he begged, pleaded, wept, prayed, cried and finally lamented to his Lord God who sent him?

Dauchman, you are on to something by your "if he was the devil, why would he tempt himself" statement. Now should this process not be extended to "if he was the Lord/God/Creator, why would he prayed to himself, or ask himself why would he forsake himself?" I am saying that Jesus is neither the devil nor the Creator. It is evident that the Creator does not need to have a son or offspring, because that will not make Him a true Creator.

Jesus is a messenger/prophet (AS) like others, the only option left that no one will have any evidence against.

$Osisi, you need to read the relevance of your response to the topic, and mine to yours. I guess the weekend with you is full of merriment and, everything is looked through the dilated eyes because of "small amount of wine is good for the stomach ailments." Dont drink and drive or breast feed.

And I hope that Sikira is not as selfish as you, with the Olorun Maje. By the way, you need to ask her how does she say Allah in yoruba word, if olorun is not it, or when she said Olorun, she could have actually said Allah, if she was saying Olorun maje in Arabic? Haaa.

$Osisi thinks only in Nigeria. She hangs all Islam on Nigeria, while she lives in USA, the "God's own Country" excluding others, according to her slogan. $Osisi does not know that the trend of convertion to Christianity, is not the trend in USA, the country that sets the trend for the 21st century. She forgot that Igbo people are accepting Islam; and the Igbos are the "elites; lol" of Nigerian tribes, according to the claim of many.

$Osisi, I will InshaAllah be in Nigeria, in December, and will at least spend a six month vacationing or a whole year there. Now lets meet, you and your hubby, Zainab and me. So that you will not have to spend any money to receive guidance, we will come to Aba and stay as long as it takes to get you in "Hijab and Kimar!" At least that will be the least I can do.

I hope the trend continues with the yanks. The yorubas who are trying anything out of financial frustrations, are not the poster child for the validity of Christianity over Islam. While almost every Christian follows the "return to sender curse," we the muslims do ancor our hope on Allah, the One Who is able to Protect, without anyone able to oppose Him.