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@Nezan: If I give you torned up Naira, will be difficult that once upon a time that Naira was a newly minted currency? The original books, to the prophets were the newly minted. The others, labelled corrupted are the old and torned up currency. Normally, such torned up currency weighs different and the volume is different.

Same way I dont care for Christianity. But am not blind to any a good person from them!

@Noetic and Nezan: Am very aware of the christians all over the world, too. The killings, and the never able to keep the turning the other cheek is an indictment of how you are.

@Nezan: And you, instead believed the Jewish story. You see how ridiculous you sound.

Alhamdulillah. Except if you live in the east, you must be having contacts with Muslims on a daily basis. I wonder what your condition is with Muslims in Abuja?

And we know Islam, and other religions (ways) now that the world is Global village square. I have compare them all, and I choose Islam as my religion.

@Nezan:I hope you know that you are certain that you are inferior to your Creator. Yet you are one and want your Creator to be 3 or not having a single personality!

@Nezan: Your statements are just opinions which mean nothing! Your saying it does not mean it is true. I know the truth. I lived in 9ja and now outside. Still on this earth. I have experience and I know that you are not even close.

@Abuzola: « #124 on: Today at 01:06:18 AM »

Sir, you said salat, salat is quite different from wudu, obligatory salat is the second pillar of Islam

Wudu is the primary foundation of Salah. And water wudu has fard (its 4 in the Quran) and the rest is Sunnah. Tayyamam is even not as strenous as the fard of wudu. Yet Tayyamam is valid to make Salah. Salah has fard. The sunnah salah could be uncompulsory in Travel, etc. Fasting has fard, ramadan. Sunnah fast could be ignored. Zakat has fard and there is even part of its fard that a poor person may not even practice until becoming wealthy; its Zakatul Al mal.


Everything in islam is organized to give comfort!

@Jookco: And you live in Heyward, and you never have gone to Zaytuna Institute of Yusuf Hamzah? You must be unreal. If Yusuf hamzah operates at the back of your home, and you have not heard of him and you are able to know so much about Nigerian north, you must not have paid attention to whats near!

I lived in Heyward for a while and its at best a town, not a city. I think it is a village, because Oakland is head and shoulder larger! Yet we still have San Fransisco just across the Golden Gate! There is no way that you will conclude that the Nigerian issue is what islam stands for when you will ignore Branch davidian's Waco, etc as the standard of Christianity? The blood thirsty George Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumfeld, etc and the Jewish Wolfowitz are not the example of Christianity and Judaism? Stop your nonsense.

@Sleek29 and Nezan: Its easy to make statement! But without proofs, each statement is unestablished. And by the way corruption does simply means not 100% pure.

There is no place that Bible is mentioned as being from Allah, in the Quran! Allah says He revealed the Torah to Musa, the Sabur to Dauda, and Injil to Isa bin Mariam (AS Jamiah). Allah says that the Torah, Sabur, and Injil after the Messengers/Prophets, who received have been removed from the human community and just before when the Quran made that statement of them being corrupted, are "CORRUPT!" This statement is very profound and if we apply that the proof is the burden of the accuser, Allah tenders through His messenger and the Muslims, your many Bibles, containing many Torahs, saburs and Injils and that of the Torahs of the Jews, as the Proof(s)! Show me a singly acceptable Torah to the whole Christians, never mind the Jews. Show me a Sabur. Show me an Injil.

If you have the strength, show me a Bible. Ko re e soo wun. I wonder how you will pass the Protestant Bible as a bible to my ~Lady~, the Catholic woman and ask her to forget the different, more comprehensive Catholic Bible!

Now show me, a Single Bible that I can hang my hat on, even if am around the catholics and or the Protestants, by disproving what Allah says!

@Bobbyaf: My mother was a Christian, up until say 2006. My exwife, the mother of my children is a Christian. My Collge roommate is an ordained reverent, of a large church of the Baptist persuasion on Times Square, NYC and I went to Christian High School. So all my life, I was around Christians and the Bible influences, until 1989, when I divorced ending a 7 year marriage. I think I quite meet the standard of whom you will like to know his opinion:

Now, a Unique prediction that you do not have in the Bible; Old or New Testament of ancient Historical events;

1). The Body of Pharaoh of Moses exodus of the Children of Israel was saved as a sign for mankind to show the end of evil people. The Bible is not clear if the Pharaoh even died and definitely no statement is clear from the Bible about his body after his death. But you see that Quran says that he died and his body was preserved. So if he died in the sea, there must be salt residue in his lungs. So Bobbyaf, goggle to find this out yourself. There is a thread current on this subject in the Muslim section.

2). The defeated Romans were predicted to defeat within 9 years of their big defeat by the idol worshipping Persians. It happened. Read it from the Quran's Chapter on Rome.

3). The Quran says the Bible is corrupted, and we see the many rewrites, revisions, the editions, each one is different from the others, in every generation, or few generations, from the time the Quran made that prediction. No stoppage to disproof it, by the Christians, by agreeing on a single Bible for all Christians. That will be a good start to try to disproof the Quran. But it will not happen. And it is not my prediction, but a repeat of what Quran says.

4). The Quran says that there will never be a new Messenger, a new Prophet and a new Religion. Even though we may say that the world has not ended, there is no time in human history that you have such a long spell of prophethood! The Torah was given to Moses, and many prophets followed him, up to the Time of Jesus, son of Mary. Then after Jesus it was a mere 610 years before Muhammad (AS)! Its been 1400 years after Muhammad, and its almost 3 times the amount of what occurred between Jesus and Muhammad, and we have not seen a new Religion!

Everyone who calimed prophethood, foolishly have ben Christians, and no one can bring a new idea apart from reawakening an old idea!

@Nezan: You think I quoted the Bible? Far from it. These are quotes from Quranic Stories. Solomon had military organization that included even Doodoo birds, genie, etc! What are you talking about. Finally, your lies about several prayer is a gimmick, like the one that a foolish man will claim that any good that happens to another is from him! But when you look at him, you see abject poverty and distain all over him! The first question should be why didnt he help himself?

Is he allegic to anything good? THis is your case, when you ignorantly abandoned 1 God, and clamoring to 3 gods, yet when you are asked how many is Nezan, you quickly reply that you are one. Unfortunately, you want your Creator to be three, yet you want to remain just one!

Iwo omo noetic kon tie yaa panle ntie. So, ni o tie nso? Kini so noo wa jee? Kore e sowun fun mi!

Omo Toyin yen, nko?

And even in time of ease, you can do fard, and dont do sunnah in wudu. You will still be good for salah. Proof: A man came to the Messenger and asked if he performs the farida, of salah without the nawaful or Sunnah, will he still be able to enter Paradise, done his obligation? The prophet (AS) said yes, even the farida, alone. The man walked away saying he will not do anything except the Fard!

Not doing a Sunnah will not make you an inmate of fire! Your farida will be enough for Paradise, inshaAllah. But the level of where you get in Paradise, from the beginning may be low to that of if you had practiced the Sunnah for more blessings/rewards! While a muslim gets to paradise with fard, the best of non-muslims will never get to Paradise, because of their didbelief!

Se oo ngbo Noetic?

Ahadith is the saying of Muhammad (AS), reported by his companion(s) "RA". The chain must lead to these class of people and say that the prophet said so and so! Thats the only way a hadith is developed.

And oh, Noetic, sharrap and go kiss one of the gods you worship! You might just as well be Onishago of Obakoso(s)! We believers of One Whole God, Indivisble Creator are talking and you who is one, but prefer your gods to be three have the gul to talk! Hello! You are a darn idolator, except you don't know it!

@Jil:  #16 on: Today at 04:24:28 PM »  

WHY THE QUORAN IS BOLLOCKS
Allah is an illiterate
It just doesn't add up: Sura 4:11-12 and 4:176 state the Qur'anic inheritance law. When a man dies, and is leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3 for the parents together [both according to verse 4:11] and 1/8 for the wife [4:12] which adds up to more than the available estate. A second example: A man leaves only his mother, his wife and two sisters, then they receive 1/3 [mother, 4:11], 1/4 [wife, 4:12] and 2/3 [the two sisters, 4:176], which again adds up to 15/12 of the available property.

Let me ask you, if you have a single Pizza pie, and initially it should be divided with say 5 people. Will they not have a bigger piece each? The answer is yes! If the same Pizza pie is not to be divided by 20 people, even though yuou had calculated it for 5 people when there were only 5 people, are you saying to us that no pieces will go to the 15 new people now added, if you had not even given anything to the 5 you though it will only cover, until you proposed the group is now balloned to 20?

Your thinking is pecaniny at best if you dont understand that an estate of a dead person is like a single Pizza pie, not more not less, it is always a whole entity before dividing it up! Divide it and learn something, Mr.  Let me poke fun at your thinking and see who is really a bolock; divide one orange to 7 children, when actually you had thought you are giving the same to your niece and her 2 friends, before the other 4 friends arrived, to make 7! If you are white girl living in California, with blonde hair, I will have no choice to have called you a Bimbo dumb blonde!

Wine: Good or bad? Strong drink and ,  are only an infamy of Satan's handiwork. [Sura 5:90, also Sura 2:219]. Yet on the other hand in Paradise are rivers of wine [Sura 47:15, also Suras 83:22,25]. How does Satan's handiwork get into Paradise?

This dude must have moosh for brain (sorry: when you come out strong, I have to come out with my gloves off, bare knuckles to give you what we call the death blow. lol). Is heaven having the same obedience conditions as the earth? Will the muslims be fasting, making salah, etc? The answer is no! Hence, this world is for work/obedience and the heavens/paradise is where the righteous, those who received Mercy will be rewarded. All the rules of earth will not apply. Hence, alcohol will be permissable for those who wants to drink. I dont drink now, but inshaAllah I shall drink in paradise.

By the way Jil, do you not know evil of alcohol? How about the damage to the liver and the social evils of easy Lizzy/slizzy, kizzy, etc, who gets  sexed out because she was drunk from alcohol. When she gets pregnant, or when she gets VD, then you will know the evil of drunkenness.And nopeople of paradise will be having babies.

@Bawomolo: « #6 on: Yesterday at 06:33:13 PM »
]quote]why should a religion of peace respond with repercussions?

[/quote]I am not there on ground. Humans reacts to situation in three different ways; Indifference, forgive or revenge. Even in revenge, Allah caution against excessive more than the offense. Most people forget religion in extreme condition. Thats how you will know a true believer and the only in the mouth group.


@davidylan (m): « #7 on: Yesterday at 06:58:55 PM »
[quote]how? just by daring to exist? the level of nauseating obfuscation from these muslims can be annoying.
So each time muslims expose their penchant for death and violence the christians should not be inured from blame? Why? Are we the ones who indoctrinated the Boko Haram dudes?

Boko haram? Thats a tribe or what? Anyway,I do not want to know how they got angry with each other. Thats not my issue. I simply responded to the guy who said that when Mslims are provoked, they react accordingly, as expected.

Look, am older than you and I simply make a statement and see how much ammo that you already pointed to me as their intended target! What happened to your turning the other cheek, David? If you are this hard as a Christian, while claiming turning the other cheek at all time (folks; David will never do that!), what will you do if you are a muslim, where at least it is permssible to revenge as ong as you do not avenge with the innocent, and no take more than what you lost?
David, oh David, you are a hard heared person. Where is the benefit of Bible in your behavior? Even the deemed light? Come to my type of Islam, aboro. And you to bawomolo!

@Noetic: My point is that you should bug off! You know nothing about nothing. If somebody says that Muhammad (AS) is in Buckingham Palace right now, and thats to disproof Islam and him, the prophet, you will accept it, even though you already know that he has been dead for over 1400 years! Your agreement with Abuzola is nothing short of the fact that you see an opening to rubbish Islam. While Abuzola made a honest observation, you coyly in deceit, through to your christian mantra of never let them know how evil you are until you reach your object, think that the one to side with is the one that may proof pedophilia, between me and Abuzola as long as we are on opposite side of the Issue! Haa, you are full of deceit, man!

@Abuzola: Abu Bakr, may or may not have heard the comment of his daughter, our mother and by the way her father's mother by virtue of the position of being the wife of the prophet! Abu Bakr could have been dead, long time. Even Umar and Uthman, too, could have been dead. It could have been even after the war betwwn Ali and Mahwiyya, where Aisha (RA) was on the side of Maywiyya, opposite of Ali bin AbiTalib (RA)! No date was provided except that it was a narration collected in Baqdad, Iraq and not Madina Munawarah!

Actually my reason for revisiting this thread was the statement you made about Wudu', as it concen what is valid and what is not valid about it. Without wasting to much time, Allah allows Tayamum in the Quran. Tayamum is even valid if sex is involved or Instruments emission is involved, and there is no water for Ghusl. A person, male or female can clean the Instruments area, and make tayamum (Sand ablution), and it is permissable to make Salah, recite Quran and make dhikr!

If Tayamum is valid in that condition, it is also very clear that the Faridah of Wudu' is exactly what is revealed of it, written in The Quran! The Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad did not cancel it, but expanded it, to include the cleaning 3 times and then added the sunnah parts to give you opportunities to receive more blessings! It is actually a blessing, if you do what Allah says in the Quran in certain conditions, ignoring Sunnah, an addition condition, if you will give others the opportunity to make their own Farida, and meet their religious obligation on time! If I walk in to the wudu' station and there is a line behind me, and the iqamah is being made, I will simply wash my face, one time, and my arms, the same and rob my head and wipe mover my socks and leave the place for others to hopefully do the same for what is better; all of us getting to join the jamaah/congregation, in the on going salah!


It is Allah Who is All Knowing, and He impact knowledge on who He Wills!

@Bawomolo: Your neighbors in south side of Chicago (Am kidding now), are muslims by name, and nothing else!

@reindeer: You sound Yoruba, based on your statement that you have never visited Igboland. Okay, if you are Igbo by blood, your being born in Yorubaland entitles you to the same perks that a yoruba born in Yoruba land should enjoy, in Yorubaland. Or a yoruba blood born in igboland's perks in igboland. Well, hey, am trying not to sound a tribalist as Tudor from Seychelles have erronously tagged me!

Now, you will agree that a boy like me, woho began his tenage years in Nigeria's 1960s, will know a thing or two about evil that could be perpetrated by humans in general and by Nigerians specifically. Yet in my stay in Obodo USA, I have never even gone near any crime. Be it a crime that I will consider against my own soul, or against a society, innocent or assumed guilty persons. Why have I been this claen? Simple, Islam and I am not alone among Nigerians. There are many Muslim Nigerians in New York City, Boston, Los Angeles, the places I know well, who are better than me!

There are people in Islam who walk straight and narrow paths. There are people of other faiths who have committed crimes, and indeed acts of terrorism against innocent persons n recent years and decades, and we do not have to go to 1000 years to disproof your hypothesis; Unibomber; a University math professor terrorised America till 1990s r just before. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols etc of Oklahoma Morrows Building where many children were killed, Branch Davidian group in Waco Texas, The Moon movement in Philadelphia in 1980s are just a few, and none of them is Islamic!


If it was not islam, can you imagine what many blacks in America could have became; angry against the man. Alhamdulillah, islam tamed them from potential gangster to upright family man, a good son, a goodbrother, a reliable friemd and a trust worthy acquittance, plus a dedicated husband and father!

I dont know how they do it, in Nigeria, but I do know what islam has done in a comlete life change in many people I have met! Again, what a person does when he is angry if it is different frm the instructions of his holy book, dont blame the holy book, but he! The Bible is claimed to say that when one is truck on the cheek, the other should be turned, for good measure! But President George Bush, a very conservative Christian, along with VP Cheney, Attoerney General Ashcroft, and even Defense Secretary Rumfeld, all good christians, and Jewish Wolfohwitz, a good Jewish man did not follow Jesus injuctions. No sir. They followed Moses injuctions and went far to behave like Pharaoh, or nero, etc! Now tell me what I dont know, again?

How many religions are there in Nigeria? When the Christians intetionally agitate the muslims, there could be repercussions, you know. Even though I do not advocate for all these quick responses, each time that results in mayhems, the Christians should not be innuor from blames! I wonder how you can preach "turn the other cheek," while your behavior is actually throwing stones at the glass house!

@Nezan: Fighting as per God's commandment is ordained on believers. Proof; Moses, David, Solomon, etc, each a Messenger and or Prophet (AS) fought for God's Name and Glory, so that His Name is Victorious! Pharaoh and his army were perished/utterly defeated so that God's Power and Might are acknowledged!

Dont be silly.

@Nezan: I may be in Nigeria, InshaAllah by December and if you want, come and see me. Or I will come to Abuja to see you. Lol. I am sure you will be peeing in your already soiled underpant by the time you see me. The same you will be happy to see President Yar' Adua or will you not be happy to see him? What if the Oil Minister or the NNPC gives you an oil allocation, but you must have to meet this muslim man, to get the allocation. No?

Weak link man you are!

Sleek29:

So the question is who are the disciples? The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch, he was talking to us all,when you become born again you receive the Holy Spirit and that makes you a disciple and a witness and as they were named in Antioch, a Christian

Talking to you all, was not in the card of Jesus promise of the holy spirit. Its either the holy spirit was meant for the disciples, only or its for later generations. Make up your mind, man! And you see why your deceitfulness is easily vsible even by a little child?

And the teachings of the Holy Spirit is found everywhere in the bible, the Spirit worked in the apostles ''And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues,as the Spirit gave them utterance acts 2:4

Where in the Bible did Jesus say these about the holy spirit? The same way you came about Trinity, I guess. Haa.

''Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Where and when did the holy spirit instructed these things that Peter did except of his own desire, if we consider the functions of the holy spirit as Jesus described them in the Bible? I postulate that it is the evil spirit that worked on him.

39 For the promise(the promise of the Holy Spirit) is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.

This is personal desire, a deviation from what Jesus said to his disciples about Holy spirit. Read it, again in your Bible and compare them side by side; Jesus statement about the Holy spirit and what your chrssitian leaders and you are saying about the docile holy spirit! One of the groups must be wrong and it cant be Jesus!

Paul did what he did because of the Holy Spirit, he received the Holy Spirit through the disciples, that promise is for all mankind, and as many as those who ask they shall receive.

Was Paul who was Saul part of the audience promised the experience of the Holy spirit, by Jesus?

Your story above reminds me of what a friend asked a Church lady just yesterday. He asked how many children the woman has, or when the boby was being born, that entity of a baby, how many person(s) or children was he? The woman said one child.

My friend retorted to her, how come you said your child is one entity child, yet the Creator of the World has to be more than One? The woman was like a deer caught in headights at night!

@Bawomolo: « #16 on: Today at 07:21:53 AM »

Isn't the riot based on religious extremists. Any ideology can be a breeding ground for fanatics.
Islam just seems to breeding the violent fanatics more and more.
Muslims should challenge these extremists rather than playing dumb or victim.

Just the same way I see you as an extremist Atheist! lol. Omo chitown. My proof; your signature of dont do drug, sell drug. This is our way of suppressing people so that they join up in your I hate God idea?

Nezan (m) « #17 on: Today at 11:12:55 AM »

It is not a propaganda. Muslims are called terrorist because they get rewarded with 72 virgins for killing for Allah.
If you bear a muslim name, you are marginalised because nobody can predict if you are carrying a time bomb.
If you are a pilot, nobody will predict if you are hijacking for al-queda.
If you are a scientist, nobody will predict if you are assembling suicide bombs to kill and be rewarded with 72 virgins.
That is why everybody is afraid of a muslim. Killing a christian or Jew will take them to paradise with a pre-arranged crowd of 72 virgins which justifies they dastardly acts.

You sould so pathetic, like the people who will say "ijebu abi eniyan?" Or those who will say "Ijebu meta, eniyan meji" just to show their disdain again the Ijebus! I have news for you, before airplanes, there was Islam. And before Al Qaidah, there was Islam. Before the term Scientist, there was Islam. And eerybody also include Muslim, if you know what everybody really means! Half backed knowledge is the pits, man.

And suicide bombing was started with the Teimens Tiger "freedom" fighters. And the "Jews" committed acts of terrorism by bombing "King David's Hotel", in Ilyas (Jerusalem, where British personnels were killed, long before PLO was born!

@Nezan: Wonder no more! You and the "Islamic leader", Muhammad Yusuf, if what they say he said is true, both of you have displayed abject ignorance! He should have known that Islam challenged man to investigate and discover the signs of Allah which are abundant around us and in ourselves! Allah indicates that the fire will burn the skin and the one who is being burnt will feel the torment of punishment, by knowing the pain. Later it is discovered that under the skin there are receptors that tranport the painful sensations that the skin feels to the brain, whereby the experience of pain is realised. If the brain is dead, or the limb is not attached to healthy brained person, pain will not be expressed by the person, or the limb that is cut off.

A whole lot of Muslim nations and people are educated, and I do not know how this guy in whatever place he lives in thinks that Islam abhors education?! I think if there is a muslim Kalifah, this Muhammad Yusuf should have been warned about his lack of understanding of the injuctions in Quran and ahadith. And if he continues to be declared incompetent to be an Imam or a person in authority except in his own household alone, if at all.

@Nezan:

« #109 on: Yesterday at 12:02:15 PM »

Are you sure? because most of the riots starts with religious coloration, like the one in Bauchi where it was alleged it started with the mutilation of the koran.
« #110 on: Today at 11:57:21 AM »
And the recent one in Maiduguri where a muslim preacher was preaching against western education. Is this one also about politics?

If I mutilate the Hindu Holy Book, was my intention not a declaration of war, by my hateful action? Will it be surprising to anyone if the hindus rise up to show anger at my behavior, lack of sensitivity to their emotional attachment to their Holy book?

I think that you lack emotional sensitivity by not realising the sentiments that others may have for their own book, if you dont care for yours! This is the problems with you Christians. You think everyone is loosehanded like you with his/her religious values. We dont have Jeusu like in Islam, where a mere human being not able to do anything on his own, will wag a 'wholesale" forgiveness by his "reluctant death!" So we work hard at obedience to Allah, supplicating Him for His Forgivess and Mercy, individually and collectively.

By the way, Salman Rushdie is not from the Middle east! At bst he is Persian or Asian!

@Pinky Lady:

« on: Today at 11:31:10 AM »

What does this mean? It means that before there was anything else that existed, there was God. God was in the beginning. And all the way in the beginning of time, God existed as three persons God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit. “In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”[quote][/quote]It will be safe to say therefore that there were "three gods or personalities (different entities really" that made up the God you have described. In a psycho babbling circle, we may say this is multiple personalities or multiple personality God.

Hence that God you just described is no more one God than a father, a mother and their children calling themselves a single family. Though, that is true, is that what you want your God to be; a collection of personalities, charading as one? Or like the man and woman leaving their parents homes to be married and become ONE?! What happened to this "God" of one of the personalities, say the Holy Spirit is incapacitated? Can the God the Father function, sufficiently independently without the other two, or He will be an ineffective God?

Can the Holy Spirit function independently like the father without the Father's sanctioning it? Can the Son function in the same manner without the Father, and why would Jesus say that on his own he can not do anything, except that God permits him; meaning God gives him power to do whatever he did?

Suddenly I missed that guy called havila. At least he is not as blind as noetic! Well verse 87 of Surah baqarah uses Ruuh Qudus for Malaika Jibril to support prophets (AS). In this case, Allah says Jesus son of Mary was supported by Malaika Jibril. The story is being told to Muhammad (AS)! You are so easy to cajole. If Ruuh Qudus equals to Holy Spirit equals to Malaika Jibril, then you have fallen for the trap that I laid out for you. It simply means that instead of knowing and accepting Holy Spirit as what he is, instead you call him 1/3 god, or god the holy spirit!

This is why I said that you an idol worshipper, worshipping angel, worshipping essenger and wrongly mislabelling God as father and cheaping His Majesty! Get it into your system, the Catholics worship Mary when they pray to her! If only to beg Jesus, who is in turn an intermediary between you and Father, since Jesus can do nothing on his own, anyway. So Protestants have unable to do anything Jesus as god. Catholics have Mary that they beg, making her a god two. None of you begs Holy spirit, or do you? Noetic you are losing the war.

Now objectively, tell me who was the Ruuh Qudus, again that Allah sent to support Jesus? In reality, Allah is the One who is capable of sending Jesus, whom you take as son, and He Allah also strenghtened him with Ruuh Qudus, whom you take for another god! this is why you are an idol worshipper. Now, tell me who lacks objectivity stiff minded man from London?