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Obalufon, At a point in Yoruba modern history, there are different Yoruba people either western world's English language's influenced scholars or Oral influence scholars who disagreed over the place of origin of ancient Yoruba ancestors. But one thing is certain, when so many theories fails, protolanguage solves the problem to balance it with the Art work to balance up the missing link.

Practically, Professor Akintoye in his glory doesn't understand what Cuneiform, pictographs, hieroglyphs, papyrus reading is all about. And I am sure he can't a read any of these works.So, why inconsistent bias man without notable knowledge on this platform remained regurgitating over written works that ought to be modified after loopholes in them. Thus limiting Yoruba ancestors( who wore headgears) history to a locality that Yoruba ancestors brought civilization to as the place of their origin.

In fact, there is a confusion about which is older between Yoruba's Ifaodu and Arabic's Ilm Al-raml, which constitutes an omnipresent divination system in the Arabic and Islamic culture. Thus, I will not blame Professor Akintoye because his calling is limted to wbat his understanding can adhere. In fact,some Western oriented Yoruba scholars can't do anything unless it is an English's language European influenced, which is the reason, I mock that lad on this platform whose knowledge is extremely limited to a robotic or programmed hypothesis.

Obalufon:
Sheikh Adam Abdullahi Al-ilory had his own history ...itan Yourba by Sheikh Adam Abdullahi Al-ilory.. i think you need to listen to it on youtube though i don't accept his history of yoruba but i can't totally discard his claim

I can see the self acclaimed know it all is trolling at you. Perhaps you shouldn't quote him any more you to engage you but I want to know that the man was seen as a prophet by all at Morikas and Yoruba land as whole,even amongst his critic. So,I think it is right time not to engage a fellow who is absolutely ignorant of so many things but claims to be historian. A field that muddled up Yoruba History incoherently without considering Oral, Archeology and linguistic approach which ought to be leeway to the unverified history of fusing Yoruba with Ibos or other ethnic group in West Africa as if Yoruba don't have different identity and mode of traditional worship and ciltural practises. to research work.So dont take him serious.

On Al- Ilory's morikas is in Agege ,Lagos state. It road access, can be through all route within the vicinity it is located at Agege. From Total ,where the bus conveying or from A.p to Iyana Ipaja etc. The place of worship, school etc was very important in the olden days because, this is a place that's not far from Danjuma Cinema.Morikas is very popular in Agege because it was a well established Qur'anic schools that spans over four decades. The man has prove something that the real Yoruba( those that came with scientific knowledge, medicine knowledge-herbology,Earlier Visual Art, Ifaodu-Ela religion are migrants). Though, his knowledge is based on Arabic language that's based on shared word with Yoruba's,which show that Yoruba language travelled over 3000+ miles to be resident in West Africa. Some example are :


1.Aiysh/Asha-: is Hebrew and Yoruba: a word that is tradition in both language

2. Alfa/Aluph/Olifa(Onifa)/Alufa: Arabic,Hebrew and Yoruba : priest

3.Aryan/Eyan-: peole in ancient Persia(Aramaic) and Yoruba: a race, people, humans

4.Ba/Abba/-: is Yoruba and Hebrew word only: father,masculine head of family etc

4.Baba-: is Arabic;Islamic oriented people,Hindu, Hinduism, Sikhism and Yoruba: A holy man, a spiritual leader


6.Baka/Ba ka-: is Hebrew and Yoruba: searching for, wandering looking for.


7. Eda/Eda-: is Hebrew and Yoruba only: identity to identify self as a creature of God. In fact only the Hebrew called themselves this name in ‘Near East'.

8.Ella/Ela/Alla-: is Hebrew/ Yoruba/Arabic: God etc

9.El/ẹ́lẹ́ : Hebrew and Yoruba: mighty, strong8. Hajj/ju(ajo)/ guwr:- Arabic,Yoruba and Hebrew: sojourn, sojourner

10.Insha/a'she : Arabic and Yoruba: grace power,authority

11.Imra/imura:- Arabic and Yoruba: preparation to go to a place

12.Obe/ọ̀bọ̀: Hebrew and Yoruba: familiar spirit

13. Og/Ogun: Hebrew and Yoruba: lord of war

14. San'ra/Sanara: thunderstorm

15. Ruqu/bã rak / ba orokun: bow your knee,bend your knee



There are so many cognates I have studied in Classic Hebrew, which I can share but it will distort my research work. So, I minimize what I share with you, my friends and ignorant critic who use foul languages discriminately.

Infact, there is no iota of doubt that Al Ilory was vast in Arabic language and Yoruba, which made him posited the research work he showcase. In the Circle of some limited Yoruba historians, ‘anyone who didn't study History isn't worth to be taken serious'! Yet, Western world history begun with oral and before documented. And they spend more fund on Archeology and Classic language such as Cuneiform, Pictographs, hieroglyphs etc

Therefore Al Ilory exposed the flaws of Yoruba historians because their historical conception is based on archaic form of knowledge acquisition of European methodology that even the Europeans had moved away from because Archeology and Linguistic hold sway to establishing their views more , which are more tenable than something based on assumption .

Have you ever seen Europeans or Western world accepting the claim that Yoruba are the oldest people on earth without fossil link ? Funnily, Yoruba oral account made mention of it, but there is no evidence to support it. Do you know why ? Yoruba Oral account are in two ways :

1. The levant; Hebrews, Arabs that claim to be the ones who will populate the world through prophesy .

2. The consecrated Ham /darker Africans.

So, don't throw away Al Ilory concept because even the Arabic language is a drift away from Hebrew cum present day Yoruba language. The Hebrew and Yoruba language shared more semblance and meaning in words than any lexicons in the world . Interestingly, the only difference is the English form adopted to translate and transliterate Hebrew language through latin-,Greek around 1600AD in England. While French form of lettering was adopted by Samuel Ajayi Crowther with some English input which heavily influenced through diacritics.

Obalufon:
sorry bro i have been so busy in Lagos, i promise to post it with video next month

I want to know the distance between the Opa Ogun and Opa Oranmiyan,to establish a fact. It is a study. and don't post it here. Just send it to my e-mail. xylovoice@gmail.com

Thanks

macof:
Wait! Did I read right?
You are now claiming to be an Awo

Wonders shall never end
You people sha want to scatter this Yorùbáland

How old are you?

Obalufon:
Olu don't mind that meat head macof.. ..Olu you are 100% on point

Smiles. Ba me, I am 100% not perturb by his view on me because I am Oma Ela,which is supreme religion. Obviously he is not an initiate because an initiate is always careful with utterance or view been shared. The guy failed to realise that an Awo doesnt think death or evil on an Awo, ‘Awo ki ro iku si awo' abe le ta ogberi. Ile ba oma ki ba oma li eru. O di odi

Let me quickly ask you to google ‘baba' and its meaning as well as its origin so that you will be shocked that Oyibos don't believe yoruba are Africans because the word is not an African word. Even Ba is not too,which is the ancient and dialectal Yoruba word for father or lord of the family.

Less I forget, you have not posted the Opa Ogun that you promised me ,which is near the market square. Sincerely I need it as part of my research work of ancient Yoruba outside Nigeria.



Cheers

macof:
Mad man
Go and seek cure
History is not your calling, your unemployment is no excuse self proclaim yourself a historian
It is obvious you have no understanding of historical methodologies or any respect for historical consistency

Ordinarily,I ought ask moderators that you should be banned for usage of vulgar word on my personality but I wont. However, your conscience will judge you.

RedboneSmith:
Which empire was defeated by female warriors? The exhausting thing about you people on this forum is that you people will not read and yet you want to come here and argue things that are beyond your ken.

The Dahomey army never marched against Oyo
Write that down. It was the city-state of Abeokuta, and not the Oyo Empire that faced off with the Dahomey women warriors in the 19th century. By that time Oyo Empire had collapsed. And Abeokuta successfully beat back the Dahomey Amazons many times. Get off the internet for a while and go and read actual texts by professional historians who know their stuff.

Obalufon:
Absolutely right, mummification is embalming.. mummification is type of embalming in desert region wrapping of the body with cotton soaked in honey and other resins not known to preserve the body also extraction of the of rapid decaying human organs to preserve the body

Good brother, sometimes, we underestimated certain scientific processes that Yoruba ancestors made look it cultic form of doing things when in fact these things were scientific breakthrough.

Indeed,we Yorubas practised mummification in the ancient times as we did had the knowledge of reading and writing in pictograms. Yoruba ancestors preserved a lot of artefacts that we in modern era sometimes attribute these preservation to mysticism.


Cheers

0monnak0da:
I think most Nigerians especially those from the south are familiar with the expression "Na wa o" but what does it mean and can anyone translate this into English

It is an interjection/exclamation for shock! Surprise! Amazement! O gosh! etc

The translation: Na(it/it's) wa (amazing) o (oh)

hayoholla,
You asserted this, ‘I must say yoruba history is a very complex and knotty one due to a lot of dispersion, intermingling, migration and emigration, which makes it very difficult to agree at a consensus. no matter how right both of you are in your view, I still hold to my assertion that no scholastic view of the yoruba race is so sacrosanct that it should be taken as final. if you ask me, just take a look at the bickering between the olugbo and the oni different view of history of yoruba.'


Genuinely, I stumbled on this above statement which is credited to you and I realized, you're 100% correct, on the reason, there is a divergent view on Yoruba place of origin. This is thw reason, I decided to use linguistic approach and Art work to ascertain the majority of the group that came together or those that their history, seemingly aligned through protolanguage.

Stay blessed,

Cheers,

Olu317

macof:
There is only one question i have for you for now; If Yoruba are descendants of Hebrews why did we need christianity to expose us to Hebrews? Certain families should have traditions of Hebrews and spread the knowledge of their existence

I mean even Islam came years before christianity yet Yoruba seemed oblivious to the existence of the Hebrew or Jewish people

Islam didn't come to Yoruba land before Christianity but Coptic Christian arrived as the present dsy Yoruba. And 18 century Christianity didn't expose Yoruba to the Ancient Hebrew God called Ella. The same name as Yoruba's God called Ela.The English language translated the Latin-Roma-,Greek Bible to her language, which was foreign. Ela is Coptic christain's Hebrew religion, ancient name of the God of Hebrew that became combined as Old and New testament, which the English called Eli in the Bible. Plainly, ‘Ella' and not ‘Eli' is the name of Ancient Hebrew's God.

As at today,there is research which is unreleased journal from a renown female professor in Harvard University, who specialise on Yoruba Art and history. This renown professor will soon come out with her journal on the Coptic Christian history before 12000AD in West Africa.

baby124:
Mummification is different from embalming. If the feotus was preserved and organs kept fresh through centuries then that may be an accidental or isolated case because we do not see such a practice repeated across the ethnic group.

I want to believe, mummification is to preserve or embalm the corpse of a dead person from decay.

NegroNtns:
The truth of the matter is that both Yoruba and Arabic have roots in old Hebrew, and not the popular misconception that Yoruba borrowed from Arabic.

There are many words in Yoruba which coincide with Arabic but does not exist in Songhai or Hausa language and one have to wonder how the leapt could have been possible without a middle link. This is so because no one is studying or researching Yoruba language as a proto semitic tongue, the researchers are always looking for a middle link to explain the conjunction between Yoruba and Arabic.

For example. . .Ale (night in Yoruba) is equivalent to Al'Layl (night in Arabic) but does not occur in either of Songhai or Hausa. Also, Alantakun (spider in Yoruba) is Al'Ankabut (spider in Arabic) and does not have same form in Songhai or Hausa.. Most words in Yoruba that begin with Al or L will have this conjunction with Arabic and is strictly because they both evolved out of the same tongue source. Arabic has remained in its semitic landscape and region whereas Yoruba has vacated and moved far away and ended in dilution by different influences in the host landscape.

Some point of corrections. . . Kahlifa exist in Yoruba as a separate word from Alfa, so it is not a mixup. Also, Imale exist seaparate from Mola (Mu'allim), there is no confusion in its use or meaning.

It is ignorance in some quarters among some Yorubas,the likes of Fulaman198 and Op who underestimated Yoruba wealth of scientific and lettering knowledge(ideograms), without concrete evidence,when many of them accused Yoruba of having loaned word from Hausa people. It based on this, I will share Yoruba words with Semitic ideograms that Yoruba ancestors were ancient Hebrews. Some of the classic Semitic Hebrew language as compared with yoruba's words through the phonetic transliteration such as:

Hebrew:hênnâh הֵנָּה
Phonetic: hane'-naw
Meaning: direction,still, this side, way, thus, thus far, back and forth, here, nearby, to...fro, now, yet, since, this, other, here and there, hither, hitherto

Yoruba:ọ́ná
Yoruba:ọ́nọ́
Meaning:path, way, direction, path, back and forth

Hebrew:melo ̂מְלו
Phonetic:mel-o
Meaning: total, all it contains,band, all its fullness, handful, multitude, all, handfuls, fullness, fulness, full, contains, fill, omerful, which filled, all that is therein

Hebrew:lêyl לֵיל
Phonetic lale
Hebrew: layelâh
Phonetic:lah'-yel-aw
Hebrew:layil
Phonetic:lah'-yil
Meaning: night, nights, tonight, nocturnal, midnight, overnight, season


Yoruba: lale
Yoruba: ale
Meaning: night

Hebrew:benas בְּנַס
Phonetic: ben-as
Meaning: became indignant, be angry

Yoruba: binasi
Yoruba: binusi
Meaning:be angry at indignation

Hebrew: betsel בָּצָל
Phonetic:beh'-tsel
Meaning: onion

Hebrew:basal בצל
Phonetic: baw sawl
Meaning: Onion

Yoruba: abosa
Yoruba: alubosa
Yoruba: alibosa
Meaning: onion



Therefore it is important to emphasise here that Bini, is derived from Binasi/Binusi; A Yoruba word for anger,vex , which seemingly originated from Semitic language in the Near East, since, there is a semitic inscription to it. This word was used around 1170 AD when Oranmiyan arrived in Igodimogodo, in modern day part of Edo,in Nigeria.

My question: Can these people give concrete evidence that Yorubas loaned words from Hausa as well claim Hebrew loaned words from Hausa too ?




Cheers

DuduNegro:
Thanks sir!

Sir, I appreciate you, the code breaker of YHWH which modern day Yoruba call as IYWAH~ IWA. So,do I applaud and doff my hat to other great men, especially such who are Orisas and those willing to become Orisas as who we are from time God chose Yoruba ancestors. Though, I am emotional about us but always willing to contribute my quota beyond the limitless worldview of deprivation by English language oriented Yorubas.

Itis my desire that we shall break boundaries either as Caucasians or brownish or dark skin people as our ancestors did while our half brothers await the unification of the chosen people of the world whose language is the ritual religious language of the only True God called ‘Ela'. Plainly, a day comes when Yoruba language shall become the language spoken in Rome and the rest of the world that believed in the true God that owns life.


Cheers

baby124:
They didn’t migrate to West or Central Africa. They migrated from West to Central/East and then North. Post a link to news of the mummy discovered in South Africa.

If people migrated from West Africa to Egypt, my questions are:

1. Wbyu does some of these priceless Egyptians hieroglyphs not found in West African ethnic writings?

2. Why has it been difficult to see any human fossil, being among the oldest from West Africa?

3. Why do many ethniy groups in West Africa claiming migration through oral account ?

RichDad1:
I’m not interested.
However, Ogboni is not as bad as people are painting it.
Ogboni = Man/Men in Egba dialect. Ogboni Society literally means Men Society.
And truly it has a lot of roots in the early Orthodox Christian setup. Anglican , Methodist , Baptist etc
Infact there was a time they had almost the same chieftainship both in the ROF and these Churches
Example : Balogun Ijo, Otun & Osi Ijo , Araba etc
It was when the churches noticed their overbearing influences that they had to stop these Chieftaincies, disassociate from them and curtail their activities.
Up till today, most top echelon of these churches and others in both religions [Christians and Muslims] are still covert members.

Edited: To all of you ignorant adults and indomie children, quoting me to yarn jargons, you know nothing. Read and learn.

The Reformed Ogboni Fraternity (Inc.) was instituted on 18 December 1914 by a Clergyman, the late Hon. Archdeacon T.A.J. Ogunbiyi, CBE, L. Th. of the Anglican Mission. It was later incorporated under the land (Perpetual Successions) Ordinance 1942 of the laws of the Federation of Nigeria on 17th day of June 1943.

Yoruba named a part of Igodomigodo with her conquered name called,Binu(Bena) . So, stop this unverified claim about Igodomigodo whose history is of Nok. Bini learned a lot from Yoruba's lexicon. Infact, her language has a lot of inputs from the Yoruba language, which is the teacher's language while Bini learned and borrowed Yoruba lexicons. Unfortunately, the Yoruba words were wrongly corrupted through Igodomigodo's accent.

angelEmade:
we don't obey court order in this country. simple

Don't give up because there is hope.

googi:
Roy Chicago sang it is Lagos. Bomo eni ba Dara ka wi, obiri nbe l'Eko Ile.

But Ondo has the finest women in Africa, in the world. Nobody exploit it out of cultural respect.

I am not from Ondo.

bilms:
Learning

There is a popular woman(Professor) who is in one of the most renowned university In the world and very established in Yoruba Art and history in medieval period, has begun working Coptic Christians migration into West Africa .

MetaPhysical:
Olu, how u dey?

In reference to what?

Baba, I am fine and you?


Linguistically, In reference to Edo people and other ethnic groups that I mentioned in connection to the Edo people's ancestors and descendants who emigrated after the arrival of Yoruba people and her culture in Edoland cum Yoruba land of Ileife in Nigeria.

MetaPhysical:
It doesnt exist!

I have read up on the politics of Bini River and everything recorded by colonists and even slave traders. I didnt just say what i did in absense of a thoroughly reviewed history. I know the history of every coastal people from Badagry to Warri, because I have an interest and as a passionately patriotic Yoruba, a responsibility to know my region and its territories thoroughly.

There is nothing any of you guys in mid south can talk here about the sea coast that is foreign to my ears.

When Britain was trying to establish indirect rule they studied relationship between Olu and OmonOba. Itsekiri was ahead of Bini in economic dominance because of advantage of the river. Itsekiri was the gateway to interior. Like I said, their origin was Ijebu.

In Yorubaland Ijebu showed Egba and Ibadan pepper over trade access to the coast. Ijebu monopolized the waters and created blockades...and it took wars to finally get them to yield, even upon that they still stubbornly tolled the waters.

Ijebu and Itsekiri are the leading seafarers and naval force in history of coastal people. Awori, Ilaje and Ijaw used the sea strictly for commerce.

This may explain why in all its expeditions Bini never tried Ijebu.

Also, the name Edo itself was given by Yoruba. The people we call Edo today were ancestrally not Edo people.

I refer you back to top where I mentioned that Idu originated from Ife. Picture Ife as the center....

North, South, West, East of Ife
...Idu changes and become
Ido
Odo
Ado
Edo

Odo Ogbolu
Odo Oya
Idogushi
Ado
Ondo
Edo

The term Edo itself is authentic Yoruba word. As I earlier said Idu is always relative. When in stillness it is Idu, Ido, Edo, Ado, when in motion it is Odo. For instance a town named Ado Odo - the settling of Orisha by the river bank. Ado Ekiti - the settling of Orisha by the valley. The pronounciation and its form changes based on dialect but the sense and phenomenon remains constant and uniform across anywhere a Yoruba Orisha settles. We are Orisha people, our destiny is defined by it and so it is a reference in everything we do.

I encourage you to read deeply into the relationship between Itsekiri and Bini. The two monarchs are bloodline but completely separate and independent authorities and control....Bini has no political authority over the Olu's throne.

Kindly do some study on some Gbe people, Gun, Hausa with whiskers scarification, Nupe and Igodomigodo's mixed up language which aren't Yoruba's. I assure, that you will be amazed.

Why twist things? You brought the idea of a link to a thread that you're familiar with and I went through some of the Yoruba words being translated rightfully and wrongfully in the thread you posted. So, I did not digress because the purpose of this thread is about Yoruba's language and Arabic connection. Furthermore, your interpretation of Ara wa isn't correct, in the manner you assumed it to be. The highest manoeuvring of this phrase is only if you intend to pluralise the, ‘awa' that became diminutive in the form , ‘ara + wa' ( our body ) .

Lastly, Xenophobic is way off the purpose of this thread and I am not comfortable with such behaviour. The reason being , my ancestral religion accommodate, everyone and didn't mentioned in any Ifaodu corpus that It was claimed to be the religion of a particular skin type that I have come across. Ifaodu religion is for the Darkskin, brownish skin , paleskin, Caucasian and light skin people. It is based on these beliefs that I see every creature of mankind as same people,irrespective of place, they occupy presently.Interestingly,the creation myth in Ifaodu was in said to be through void~emptiness~without form. The creator being Ela,who manifested purity~brightness~light as Ala,which is in Yoruba's cosmology

Lastly, you brought the idea of a thread, which you're familiar with and I went through some of the Yoruba language being translated rightfully and wrongfully. So, I did not digress because the purpose of this thread is about Yoruba's language and Arabic connection

Lastly, Xenophobic is way off the purpose of this thread and I am not comfortable with such behaviour.

nlPoster:
Perhaps in your own understanding.

Ara is a general word, these distinctions you make are unknown in most places. Since ara also means "includes", I seriously doubt what you're saying.

Check the title of the following thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/380602/omo-yoruba-e-je-ka

Ara wa means ourselves.



Most Yoruba words have more than one meaning depending on context.

Ara also means wonder, among other things.

Diacritic separate homophone in Yoruba lexicon and it has nothing to do a with my understanding. Though some Yoruba words do have some form of homonym.

Àrá wá ( in this context)
Meaning: a member of ours or part of us

Àrá mì
Meaning: my skin,my body

On the post, you referred do have some good Yoruba and not good one.

Rin/Ri
Meaning: to walk from one place to another or movement from place to another

Irin:
Meaning:an act of walking from a place to another.

Ajo:
Meaning: journey to distance place or travel
Ju/Jo
Meaning: journey to a distance

nlPoster:
Ara means, friends, associates, etc.

Árá :
Meaning: the meaning varies such as, kindred, kinsmen, inhabitants of a place. Meanwhile, village indigenes don't use this word amongst themselves when they are in their respective but used this word on people who dwell in their town or their village. So, also for their own people who dwell in another town which he or she is not indigenous to.

Ãrá:
Meaning: thunder


rẹ́:
Meaning: be friendly together


ọ̀rẹ́:
Meaning: friends

MetaPhysical, greetings to you. My take on your views are:


1. First, the last view of yours of pinning,Oranmiyan is isn't Aramean because such is an anglicised word . Awram or Aram from the history of Near East are people who lived around the era within Arabian land which is known as the land of ‘Or'(heat caused by sun or sun). So, Yoruba had this knowledg of an ancestor known as Ora. Meanwhile Ora is a form of powerful being who is brightness of light and known in Yoruba's myth as the one who charges the ‘thunder' to strike. As a name,Ora is a prefix to mi(èmi/émi) yah, which is derived from Yoruba's Ora, and can be used as a suffix too. Funnily, Hebrew have this name ‘Or' as prefix to their names,while both have same meaning.

2. Secondly, there were two groups that major in Yoruba lexicons and they are both Semitic in origin; Classic Hebrew and Arabic language. Unfortunately, people look at the Arabic angle which lesser than the classic Hebrews language. Plainly, I don't have knowledge of Arabic but classic Hebrew and Yoruba coded lettering, are what I can decipher and interpret.

3.Thirdly,Brazilians,till death comes, cannot decipher the code of; Oreica/Orica/Orixa/Rixa/Onisha/Onicha/Ureisha/Urishe/Orishe/Orisha because this word are all derived from classic Hebrew's original lettering rê'sh רֵאשׁ
Phonetic:raysh, Meaning: heads, chief, head,which was written over 3000+ years ago. And the only difference with Yoruba is modern day spelling.

4. Fourthly, the Yoruba people are not the only group that are connected to Ebora because the written of this man is also evident in classic Hebrew ,so Yoruba of today are not the only group that is connected to this man because other groups are connected to the ifaodu religion. This is the reason that I ,in my study of Yoruba's ifaodu myth of creation, it is equal to the name identified with Hebrew's light which Alah,which is same as Yoruba's but different from Arabic's meaning of the word,which is God. Interestingly, Ellah is one of the name of Hebrew's God and Ela is Yoruba's God of creation.

5. Interestingly, shams Arabic word which is derived from root sms for sun and some,Arab Yoruba used ‘Sanman' for sky or sky while classic Yoruba stood for the word Oorún. This word is actually closely related to Semitic Hebrew, which is ‘Or'.

6. Obviously, it is certain that there were two major group amongst the settlers in Yoruba land; Hebrew that came with the title of Ba or O ba and the ones that came with Baba. The research also show that Ba and Baba for father or lord, spiritual leader, respected elder, are not African lexicons? Ba is an Hebrew word while Baba is an Arabic word or Indus Valley people.


Note:
The reality is that over 97% of people,who thought Yoruba and Hebrew are not more connected than with Arabic or are ancestrally Africans is the inability by these people to read Classic Hebrew.

GOFRONT:
Erm!!!....nlPoster, Pls just forget about this before you find yourself at loggerhead with Olu317.....I even tried to break the topic down for him to gulp, but I dnt really get what's happening...

I understand what Olu317 is tryna fight for!!!......Why should a yoruba play the role of a weed smoker in the drama that took place in Op's write up?? Why should Yoruba even appear in the picture? This is what Mr Olu is not okay with... . And Mr Olu317 doesn't even seem to understand with anybody on this thread at all.....He just dey blow him own plenty plenty Grammar

But Mr Olu, remember that there is no tribe in Nigeria that doesn't smoke weed. Don't forget...

Those two guyz Only Mis-identify the Op to be a Yoruba guy just because they are in Yoruba land; thereby tagging him a weed smoker.

Let the grammar thing be a jab at me! Although you actually got my point,despite the justification by nlPoster defensive mechanism. The reason being that the OP, tactically narrated deficient story because he mentioned only Yoruba ethnic group which is not part of the scene,since the affair is all Igala grouping, even if Yoruba language is intelligible to Igala people. As far as I am concern, he his mischievous in all ramification for not mentioning his ethnic background so as for him to have, a good response from his followers on this thread.

nlPoster:
The op never said he's Yoruba.




What he typed was the people behind him called him a Yoruba person.

It sounds to me he was referred to as Yoruba in a perjorative manner, ie as someone who is ignorant of his identity.

Stop thinking for what some one claims as assumable view. I am not interested in engaging you any more on this issue because you aren't ready to read between the lines.....

nlPoster:
The op never said he's Yoruba.




What he typed was the people behind him called him a Yoruba person.

It sounds to me he was referred to as Yoruba in a perjorative manner, ie as someone who is ignorant of his identity.

There is no iota of doubt about being accused of being from another ethnic group but my point is that the OP's intention is to debate on behavioural pattern of Yoruba people. After all, he didn't mention, his tribe at first on his Post . Instead, he mentioned, ‘I am from Kogi', which means, the Post has ethnic undertone until later that complains about his motive exposed.

Secondly, he did claim,one of the two guys, spoke in his own language about a Yoruba boy who has just smoked weed which was the reason for sneezing in their front while on queue! Interestingly, the OP intention fit well for the purpose of this post, for accusation of Yoruba people and counter accusation of not being. The reason being that he did no correction of his tribe's men about his o wn tribe's identity when he was insulted of being a weed smoker from assumably from a Yoruba ethnic group because of his facial look or *uncivilized conduct*. Although, I have seen many people calling others as people of another ethnic group when these people are not but such wrong ethnic identity are often corrected ,if one is different from such ethnic or tribe's ,which is expected to had been done instantaneously by OP at the scene but mischievously, he was silent about this part.

nlPoster:
The op never said he's Yoruba.




What he typed was the people behind him called him a Yoruba person.

It sounds to me he was referred to as Yoruba in a perjorative manner, ie as someone who is ignorant of his identity.

There is no iota of doubt about being accused of being from another ethnic group but my point is that the OP's intention is to debate on behavioural pattern of Yoruba people. After all, he didn't mention, his tribe at first on his Post . Instead, he mentioned, ‘I am from Kogi', which means, the Post has ethnic undertone until later that complains about his motive exposed.

Secondly, he did claim,one of the two guys, spoke in his own language about a Yoruba boy who has just smoked weed which was the reason for sneezing in their front while on queue! Interestingly, the OP intention fit well for the purpose of this post, for accusation of Yoruba people and counter accusation of not being. The reason being that he did no correction of his tribe's men about his own tribe's identity when he was insulted of being a weed smoker from assumably from a Yoruba ethnic group because of his facial look or *uncivilized conduct*. Although, I have seen many people calling others as people of another ethnic group when these people are not but such wrong ethnic identity are often corrected ,if one is different from such ethnic or tribe's ,which is expected to had been done instantaneously by OP at the scene but mischievously, he was silent about this part.

GOFRONT:
1. The Op is actually a liar :

Kogi isn't a yoruba word and solely not a Yoruba ethnic group's state because they have more than two ethnic groups in that state. So, I find his story as incoherent with his claim of being a ‘yoruba' guy. Perhaps, you didn't comprehend that he claimed to be a Yoruba guy! ‘In my own local language' . If he is indeed a Yoruba person ,why make it your problem? After all, it is supposed to be a Yoruba affair.


Hello Olu317, try calm down and read through Op's topic again.....Gently this time around. @ the bolded, there was never a place in the write up where Op claimed to be a Yoruba guy. He stated clearly from the starting that he was from Kogi state but lived in Ibadan where he was bashed by his own tribesmen.....His write up is simple enough

Nice try on byour but the purpose of the thread is to create confusion,which, he achieved because the OP's introductory didn't identify himself as ‘Igala' until, I had to mentioned it that he isn't a Yoruba man. Afterall, Igala isnt the only group in Kogi state..

In btw, it is wickedness for anyone to purportedly desire to devilish so as garner attention when not needed or for cheap motive.