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gregyboy:
Lol.....funny man
You are using both toaf ans olu137 account nice

First of all ile ife nevered used horse the only people who used horse were oyo as a resukt of migration of the fulani into oyo at late 18c and it was much more later after the death of oduduwa and this horses didnt last....because of thier region so it was quickly forgone


The horse with a man that was mistaken by western historian as benin art
Was actually a benin republic art work not a benin artwork
So young mam no yoruba came on horse to benin

Also because the word “ora" its a yoruba word meaning it was introduce by yorubas to benin or because obama has the word oba meaning nigeria colonized kenya



I dare you prove your point not with only links pictures artefact anything to make it correct

Are you a joke as regard the identity of Ora?

The name ora has been part of Yoruba lexicons from time immemorial but not so with Bini. Ora is the identity that give birth to Orun( sunlight) , Ara(thunder) from the foundation of Yoruba language and history . Infact, Oba Ewuare Ozolua was referred as Okpame at one time during the founding of Ora before he became an Oba in Bini land after some years in Uwokha Ivbiosakon around 1473 AD, after he fled Bini kingdom. The same prince was a descendant of Owomika (Eweka), who invariably was son of Oranmian,an Ogun descendant,who was Odua descendant. Interestingly, Odua which is the name of the founder of the Dynasty in Yoruba is an ancestor name known as epithet because Alafin(Olofin) Oshinmole is the name of the founder of Yoruba land in Nigeria. Odu-dua which is derived from IfaOdu is actually non historical with Edo lies.

Try to google this about Edo's account about the first prince that invaded Edo land from Ileife. Please do yourself the favour.

greyboy,
I respect Bini Kingdom as I respect Oyo Empire because these Kingdoms did make Yoruba proud. But you people of Edo extract don't always want to acknowledged the humble Yoruba ancestors willingness who helped the people they met in these new land God pushed them to . These men didn't care about self interest but humanity but today, some of you people lie and deny the Yoruba impact in Igodmigodo land. Oga, I am a radical descendant of Odua with fact and he was too . I don't joke with the reality aspects of my ancestors.

Say the truth always bro and the peace within comes.

gregyboy:
What do you mean by “expose to civilization" if we are on open audience can you defend that quote

The issues am having with the yorubas is not thir lies but about thier dogmatism ,the poor educational sysytem in the west teaches them within the conferment of thiee tribe and litlle of igbo and hausaa neglecting other minor tribes ...a yoruba guy once told me bini is igbo" if they know little about nothing about nigeria imagine the outside world


Back to the point...
No tribe was taught how to make beads ,beads were indigenous to africa just like the european counterpart you will know this if you do your research ...

The Benin beads is are of two type ekan and ivie .
Ekan beads were the original local beads gotten from benin they are greyish precious stones carved into beads by the benin people “picture one shows a dwarf in benin wearing an ekan beads before the arrival of the pourtugues"
The arrival of the Portuguese brought the ivie beads, which were coral stone gotten from the ocean by the Portuguese which was melted and carved into the red coral beads you see the benin wear by the ”iwebo" people in Benin who were incharge
Of bead making and oba regalia the Portuguese traded the coral Stone's for local product the coral beads are not found in other african countries the Portuguese traded with ,probably this african countries didnt use anyform of beads before the arrival of the Portuguese or can you find the beads in pourtugal because it was made and shaped by the benin people themselves

It is in your Edo history through BBC, that Oranmian was the first man who came on horse to Igodomigodo around 1170 AD . This alone is civilization to Edo people.

It is on record that Bini is a name that's of Yoruba origin Edo land. This is civilization.


It is on record that the name ‘Ora'. came through a son of Bini Oba's kingdom's Prince . This name has been in Yoruba land immemorial. This is civilization because Yoruba taught you their word as part of your lexicon.

It is on record that Yoruba knowledge of Religion of Oranmi ela ( Ifaodu ) came to Bini. This is civilization to you people.


All these happened before 1300AD that your Art existed,which actually mean Yoruba taught you Art work......Please doubt me and let me give you research work on Art works in Bini and Ife.


Cheers.

TAO11:
Thank you for giving it to that renowned serial liar.

He must be drenched in bitter tears right now.

I hope so he bows to the truth and reality. You see,in my study,the Yoruba Scholars before us and we the present scholars underestimated the prowess of our ancestors strength in godliness and scientific resolution. Infact,they were SUPER HUMANS called ‘gods'.

This is the reason I became shocked with the understanding of the semitic pictograms called classic Hebrew and unequal parallel knowledge of Yorubas ancestors religion called Ifaodu in the whole of SUBSAHARA AFRICA.

Yoruba Rocks, sibling!

gregyboy:
A mere claim once more were is the evidence benin used yoruba beads

Stop fuming because Yoruba ancestors weren't your ancestors contemporary but Teachers to your people. Below are the well established research work done by internal and external researchers of repute:

1.Yorubas ancestors were not taught by European in beads production

Ethnographic and historical data show that glass production was well established in southwestern Nigeria by about 1200 (Euba 1982; Eluyemi 1986). Glass was a prestigious and almost always strongly colored material that was used in the manufacture of beads and other objects that were presented as gifts. Unlike the fabrication of brass and sculpture, glassmaking was not a well-known phenomenon in sub-Saharan Africa, which underscores the uniqueness of the Ile-Ife beadmaking industry.

2. European of German renown researcher said, IleIfe is a city of bead production in his book

Frobenius (1913, p. 309) referred to the town as the center of beadworking.

3. Evidence showed beads were sold outside Ileife as far back as 1200AD before contact with Europeans

There is now scientific evidence suggesting that bluegreen glass beads made in Ile-Ife were being traded outside the Yoruba area long before the era of European contact (Shaw 1970; Davison, Giauque, and Clark 1971; Robertshaw and others 2003). These beads apparently disappeared about the 18th century because less expensive beads were available from Europe.

4. It is proven that bead were produced in Ile ife after scientific series of experiment to confirm if it is a false or has external influence

Samples for experimental recipes were obtained from the sand deposits. The details of this analysis have been presented elsewhere (Ige 2009). The results show that most of the aboriginal drawn glass beads were manufactured from glass produced by melting granitic sands, some times blended with ritual snail shells. According to informants, snail shells were mixed with sand from Olokun streams and glass recipes were formulated according to cultural uses and societal stratification. The glassmakers made one recipe with abundant snail shells for priests, and another, with moderate levels of calcium, for kings and chiefs. Glass with the lowest quantity of calcium was produced for commoners.


5. They Yoruba ancestors were scientists with knowledge of chemical compounds

Chemical Classification Several methods have been employed in the chemical analysis of the glass beads from Ile-Ife. They include electron probe microanalysis (EPMA), scanning electron microscopy with energy-dispersive spectroscopy (SEMEDS), and the accelerator-based method of proton- induced X-ray emission (PIXE) (Ige 2009). The trace- element and isotopic compositions of the beads are now being determined in cooperation with Dr. Robert H. Brill, research scientist emeritus at The Corning Museum of Glass. The chemical classification discussed below is based on analyses with the JEOL 8600 SuperProbe electron microprobe at the Department of Geology of the University of Georgia.


Advice. Let me stop here for now so that you can understand that we are foreigners from a faraway land to impose our knowledge on all daring neighbours as yours that the Yoruba ancestors exposed to civilization

In fact read for perusal,
‘Classification and Preservation of Ancient Glass Beads from Ile-Ife, Southwestern Nigeria'.

follock007:
Eshu means alright instead of all long because he is the one with a timid heart of gold inbetween two parties representing good and evil respectively which he must listen to before arrive at the Dead Certain (death sentence) conclusion which is the karmic debt he withdraws from Mankind... This debt is drawn ones which is why they say alright... that's what forensics (4&6) is all about

here's a picture of it... it's not downloading hang on

Ehu is Saturn with the number 7 whose 2 wings was removed so that he becomes the Moon with the number 5 and the heart of gold he was given is Uranus with number 8... That is 5+8=13 (1+3=4 the number of Man).
The two wings represent two polar parties or choices, good versus evil that is influencing the double mind called Uranus. Uranus is the 8 planet which is two mars or Thomas (Thomas means doubt).

Daniel 7:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.


Mankind is Mars the 4th planet with a heart of clay that gives it the wisdom to feed off Uranus... This heart of clay is Neptune with the number 9 and it gives Mars a massive hunger so much that it feeds and feed from the Eshu through an invisible tracking device that links Uranus and Neptune... In the end Saturn draws the depths of Mars all at once which puts mars into the alright (yes sir = ok = knockout) mood because he has become light without the hunger, the Martian Man is DEAD. (4+9=13 and 1+3=4 the number of Man)

Daniel 7:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

Awesome piece. Anyway you have a good worldview of planets which place you as an interpreter of the planets that have been claimed by scientists to exist.

Unfortunately, my studying the Hebrew's Original pictograms hasn't shown all the formulas you posited. In fact, the English Bible is actually the knowledge of the Hebrew's worldwide view from Greek interpretation as regard the creator of the world and his purpose of functional and dysfunctional forces that exists. This particular knowledge I have been exposed to doesn't given me the privilege to limit God and his purpose as been done through scientific method by some theorists of nullification of existence of God's existence.


In all sense of humility, I wish you the best in you interpretation as well as looking forward to reading more about your cosmological or metaphysical approach to the world beyond our immediate reach.



Cheers

seunmsg:
You believe Jesus turned water to wine? You believe Jesus walked on water? You believe Jesus died and woke up the third day?

Even the Jesus is the Eshu Onibode orun ( guard t which is the door to eternity). The Hebrew Pictogram didn't have any name called Jesus but Yeshua after transliteration and translation (savior /the nam of the one who fight for people's just cause ). The name Jesus is an English language's version for Yeshua,which is the classic Hebrew personality. Interestingly, the name is the Adamo Orisha known to Yoruba as Yeshua,which became contraction to Eshu . It means,all along, the whole world had and still worshiping the God of creation in Yoruba's account, who is known with different name and as Ora-un mi ela(Ora) through Eshu.

nairalandposter:
They were unable to decode the Sphinx , I looked it up yesterday, seems even the ancient Egyptians called the sphinx ancient.

But Egyptology is very interesting although it can also be scary and foreboding.

The present day Egyptians are admixture racial people ,who have tried all to throw away their antiquity because of the founder of that kingdom was a dark skin group of Africa descent before invasion by different set of people. Even at this, Researchers did actually did some finding which pinned the earlier Egyptians Ruler to the actual First set of Africans autochthones, who were of today's Bantu different groups,Sudanese belt's Nubians, Ethiopians' Oromo, Libyan—Barbers etc that ruled Egypt before Islamist outright conquest that tries to erase the Egyptians past. Specifically Egypt was conquerd about 6 times according to scholars ,which showed the importance of Nile River to Egypt, the Near East group , who were Caucasians (people Of a racial classification; pertaining to people having certain phenotypical features such as straight, wavy or curly hair and very light to brown pigmented skin, and originating from Europe, parts of Northern Africa and Western, Central and South Asia) and the rest of the inhabited part of the world. Herodotus described the Scythian Budini as having deep blue eyes and bright red hair. and the Egyptians – quite like the Colchians – as melánchroes (μελάγχροες, "dark-skinned" ) and curly-haired.He also gives the possibly first reference to the common Greek name of the tribes living south of Egypt, otherwise known as Nubians ,which was Aithíopes (Αἰθίοπες, "burned-faced" ). George Rawlinson, an English author wrote a book entitled, ‘‘History of Egypt''. On page 252, he gives a description of Seti I. He states: "Seti's Face was thoroughly African. He had a stormy Face with a Depressed Flat Nose , thick lips and Heavy Chin.

Again, 1820 drawing of a Book of Gates fresco of the tomb of Seti I, depicting (from left) four groups of people were seen: Libyans , a Nubian , an
Asiatic , and an Egyptian . According to anthropologist Nina Jablonski: ‘The Ancient Egyptian ( New Kingdom ) funerary text known as the Book of Gates distinguishes "four groups" in a procession.These are the Egyptians,the Levantine and Canaanite peoples or "Asiatics", the " Nubians " and the "fair-skinned Libyans ".The Egyptians are depicted as considerably darker-skinned than the Levantines (persons from what is now Lebanon , Israel ,Palestine and Jordan ) and Libyans, but considerably lighter than the Nubians (modern
Sudan ). And from lnguistic angle, one of Egyptology website called Tutatuta says, the Latin alphabet is “of pure ancient Egyptian origin,” according to the research of Osaama Alsaadawi. Scholars say the proto-Phoenician alphabet, which is based on Egyptian hieroglyphs, was the basis for the Western alphabet. Petrie Flinders, Egyptologist discovered a language known as the Hebrew's language, which is somewhat different from Egyptians language ,despite the fact that the language was found in a place in Egypt called Sinai. And Dr. Glan further interpreted the pictograms to it nearest transliteration which can be identified with Greek lettering, Latin's and her English lettering counterpart. So, the sphinx has identity from scholars perspective and the identity is in the description of a dark skin personality.

nairalandposter:
The sphinx definitely has a different facial structure than the other Egyptian statues.

Spot on!
The point you raised is the reason ancient researchers begun quest to find out who was who in Egypt,when they delved too into the finding and they came up with fact as papyrus, pictographs,Royal Tombs,commoners Tombs etc to identify different people who ruled Egypt at different era.

bokohalal:
There is the Edo joke that says 'de Oba no bie rue nu na tue lamogun?
My family trace from Oba Eresoyen. The Evbiemwen branch of The Benin Royal Family. Never lived on the street.

Awesome!

Obalufon:
also significance of Birds and snakes in our religion .. Igun / vulture is sacred to our religion likewise Egypt

Egypt history cannot be complete without the significant impact of ancient Yoruba migrants' history because Igun(vulture) is actually a sacred bird that spirituality is attached to it as sacred bird in Near East ,where Yoruba's history begun.In fact there are steele inscription, portrait inscription to the fact that vulture is highly revered amongst birds.

On the snake, the Olota remain the custodian of the veneration of the peculiar Python breed, which also has Near East's Egypt's, Indus Valley etc and other Africans connection as well.

The actual dress mode of present Ooni ,which is the reason for the noise makers are even in the same manner in the ancient Near East,which is the reason I mock even the many scholars who had ridicule the might of the ancient ancestors of the Yorubas because these people are actually better than us in the area of creativity and adventurism.


Take for instance, the inscription on Opa Oranmiyan, Commenting on one of the characteristics of hieroglyph writings Siculus writes:

“Now it is found that the forms of their take the shape of animals of every kind, the members of the human body, a implements and especially carpenters’ tool their writing does not express the int concept by means of syllables joined to another, but by means of the significance objects which have been copied and figurative meaning which has been improve upon the memory by practice. “

Slideboom in 2011 notes that around 300 the ancient Egyptians had ways to write numbers. They made one vertical line for on vertical lines for two, and so on up to nin ten, the Egyptians made a U-shaped mark 100, the Egyptians drew a coil of rope, a 1000 they drew a lotus flower. They used as to show 10,000. In the Oranyan obelisk, the shaped for ten and the double U-shaped for twenty are not shown while Resh and Y shown on the obelisk. In view of this arrangement of the nails is definitely not representing any number of years. The nail is not supposed to be counted to determine anything in connection with the years  Oranmiyan reigned. The significance off  the arrangement of the nails can on comprehended if it is viewed from a high perspective as a trident.

What's a Trident?

A Trident is a three-pronged spear somewhat resembling a pitchfork.

In Greeks myth ,it is associated to Poseidon's . Unlike the Yoruba, the Trident isnt worship but an inscription that's established as Shepherd's authority ,which is Hebraic in inscription

Unlike Egyptian obelisk, the Yoruba obelisk Oranmiyan lacks a pyramidion – the g electrum at the top of an Egyptian pyramid it has a unique design. Dennett in 1910 “Near the centre of the pillar a horn and axe are carved. Above these figures forty-five centered headed nails in three rows had been driven into the stone, on one side of it ten, and on the other side is  eight, while below twenty of these curious still remain.”

Generally, in this modern era, a trident is an or evil symbol. In some Christian mytholog an instrument of the Devil. According to Sy (nd), it is “Called the devils pitchfork,” it symbolized major gods in various pagan cult In India, it is linked to the Hindu “trident-b Shiva, spouse of the skull-bearing goddess

Previously the trident was not at all connected to the Devil. The truth is that, “In many language, the ancients, the sign of trident designate mountains (at the half way from the Gibral the Atlantis City K.M.) tops towering above sea (means an ocean sometimes K.M.).”

The fact that the trident means an ocean links it to an ancient god called Poseidia was the “… potentate of the seas and ocea well as Atlantis. It became Poseidon in Greece, Neptune for the Romans, trishula in etc.” 

The presence of this ancient symbol of Trident of the Oranmiyan obelisk definitely has no connection with all these ancient gods because Egypt where Yoruba ancestors came through, the trident was not a symbol of any of their gods and none of these gods which tridents identified with was worshiped in Egypt.

What exactly is the meaning of Yoruba's Trident?
....








The blessed Yoruba people who remained the custodian of human history and the religion of unity !Eshu -Yeshua- savior of mankind!


Yoruba Rocks

Yoruba ancestors' achivement as at when they Africa as they arrived had never been matched by any group in Africa even the Ethiopian kingdoms or Sudanese kingdoms. Below are facts :

1.The yoruba ancestors thought God to Africans and the world's her religion, which are,Islam,Voodooism, Christianity- extension of Ifaodu(eiphod).

2. Africa worships the Yoruba God called Ora
as Ra in Egypt

3.. The Arabs in the Near East worshipped the Yoruba creator Ela-Ala as Islam's Allah

4.The Yoruba arrived in West Africa and came with their names and language. The Yoruba brought Ifaodu( Eiyphod),some people in west Africa called it Afa.

5. The Yoruba came with Orisa-Risha-Oritse, some ethnicity called it Oliseh.

6.Yoruba came with Peh(pè) to call ,they called it Pon etc.

7.The Britain borrowed words from Yoruba's Abarin(alabarin) and called it Hebrew(to accompany to a place.

8.The Yoruba word which is Kana-ikana ni (same people,same thing) and the British called it Canaan.

9. The English borrowed Yawn from Yoruba yá,á.

10. The English borrowed Iron from Yoruba's Irun-Irin and called Iron.

11. The yoruba crowns with birds , signify power of creation that begun in Middle East or Near East

12, The Rossette found in Yoruba beads or inscribed as a seal on Yoruba's kingly regalia are of Near East origin in which Yoruba's ancestor first lived.

13. Yoruba people helped built Egypt and the record remained there forever because the artifacts found in Egypt when Flinders Petrie has classified these terra-cotta heads with similar objects found at Memphis, and already assigned to the 5th century BC.

14. The Yoruba inscription on Oranmian Obelisk is a Semitic name with a meaning . No other ethnic group have these inscription in Subsahara Africa

15. Solomon's knot,which is found in Nigeria's Naira is of Yoruba origin.
Lost wax Production:

16. The Yoruba lost wax production was brought to Africa and by the fourth millennium B.C., lost-wax, as well as open- and bivalve-mold cast- ing had been developed in Near East. In the inge-nious lost-wax process the desired image is sculpted in wax, which is then sur- rounded with a clay investment that hard- ens into a mold when baked.

17. A headdress worn by south- ern Mesopotamian rulers in the late third and early second millennia B.C. is a wool cap. These headdress are also found amongst old Yoruba kings,which can be identified in visual Art found in Yoruba land. Research it on Near East history


18. Later in the second millennium B.C. and early in the first millen- nium B.C. a high, fezlike cap was worn in Mesopotamia by nobles and kings. The type of crown are also found in Yoruba land as far back as 1000+ years ago. Research it on Near East history

19. Under the Achaemenid Persians a new crown with stepped crenellations made its appearance. This form, enriched by manyelements such as crescent moons, sun rays, wings, and globes, became the royal crown of Sasanian kings. These kind of crown are also found in Yoruba's kingly crown 11AD. Research it on Near East history

20.Scientific evidence has proven that Yoruba people have no genetic link with pygmy lineage which is present in many ethnic groups in West African population,even with Yoruba neighbours with genetics link to pygmy.


21. Yoruba people in Nigeria have the largest concentration of twin in the World. Even amongst the Republic of Benin, the Yoruba group still maintain this record.


22. The Yoruba word è mí- unshaken, firm as it is , ( dialect) is actually borrowed by English speakers as ‘amen'


23. The said Classic Hebrew which were written 5000± ago is actually Yoruba's language,even with transliteration by the scholars that were employed by king James in 1604-1611 to translate the Bible through Greek translation of the Hebrew scroll to English language.In doubt? Come for the lesson *date modified*





Yoruba Rocks while others follows.

gregyboy:
This is mere claims ...beads were traded all around africa before the arrival of the whitemen ....yorubas traded kolanut with the north for beads for beads and textile materials ....this is known fact ....


You have to do more research work to lay claims if any beads were ever done in youruba

White men didn't find your landscape as having bead as far back as 1200 years ago with a radioactive isotope of carbon, especially (nuclide) information, so what's your point? You re a loser forever on Yoruba's relationship with Igodomigodo...Bini is even a Yoruba name

salford1:
That is the costume of Obalufon (descendant of Obatala). Obalufon's descendants reigned after the demise of Odua and before the return of Oranmiyan. Oduas lineage regained the throne after the arrival of Oranmiyan.

abeg safe your self the rap because you're as ignorant as the non Yorubas. You have no knowledge of Yoruba lineage......

Thatssobeyonce:
Pple like u make us believe we don't belong in both races cox we r mixed nd besides both my parents re Africans so stop wv the discrimination nd keep ur opinions to urself....

Pretty one, please don't bother yourself over anyone's comment as it regard your mix ancestry because some people are actually ignorant of the beauty of your type. In fact, Bob Marley is a legend as at decades ago,even after his death. He was aa big influence on many Africans with Jah(Jehovah) songs claiming Rastafarian . interestingly, Jah isnt an ancient Semitic word for God but English language that called the word God .The same Bob Marley's father was a typical pure Irishman Caucasian. Invariably these people claiming black superiority of Faro( Pharaoh) era are bunch of Hippocrates adoring Caucasians from behind the scene. You can Google all Pharaohs of Egypt to see their era and their facial looks. Some aren't as a typical black man with a compressed nose and a fat lips .




Cheers

computergenius:
[b]LIST OF CREDIBLE EVIDENCE (OR PROOF) THAT CONFIRMS THAT YORUBA PEOPLE MIGRATED FROM ANCIENT EGYPT AND IGBO PEOPLE MIGRATED FROM ANCIENT KUSH (KWUCHI) IN NAMBIA (NUBIA):
There are ancient Egyptians living among us. Think about the following proofs:
* Ancient Egyptian pyramids have been discovered in Igbo land.
* Ancient Egyptian metal smelting factories have been discovered in Yoruba land and Igbo land.
* Ancient Egyptian gold mines have been discovered in Yoruba land and Igbo land.
* Ancient Egyptian glass bead factories have been discovered in Igbo land.
* Ancient Egyptian writings and drawings have been found that depict how the ancient Egyptian soldiers captured dwarf pygmies from Igbo land to entertain their kings (the Pharoah) in his palace.
* The ancient Egyptians brought the use of mud bricks for house construction to Yoruba and Igbo land.
* The ancient Egyptian religion is very similar to traditional Yoruba and Igbo religion. Many of the Egyptian deities have the same name or similar names as those of the Yoruba deities and Igbo deities.
* The Yoruba traditional religion called “Ifa” was practiced in ancient Egypt as “Ifa Oroh” or “Fa Oroh” or Pharoah and in Kush (Kwuchi) as “Amodi Oroh”. “Ifa Oroh” or “Fa Oroh” or Pharoah means “the religion for the unknown causes of pain and death”. “Amodi Oroh” or “Amadi Orah” means “the religion for the one who understands the causes of pain and death”.
* Ala meaning “our survival” or “our provider”and Ba’ala meaning “bow to our provider”is a deity worshipped by ancient Egyptians and Cushitic Nubians for thousand of years. Since the ancient times till today, traditional priests of Odinani in Igbo land still worship Ala.
* The ancient Egyptians builth special temples called “Eredo” in Yoruba land which still exists till today.
* Yoruba land was a sacred land to “Ifa Oroh” or Pharoah which was the religion of ancient Egypt. Some Egyptian priests took pilgrimages to Yoruba land to offer sacrifices to the gods at temples called Eredo.
* The posting of Egyptian soldiers to guard the Egyptian gold mines at Ile Ife led to the settlement of many Egyptian soldiers at Ife and the naming of the city “Ile Ife Wura” meaning “Land of Love of Gold”.

* The Yoruba cap worn in Yoruba land and the Igbo cap worn in Igbo land by chiefs and elders originated from the caps worn by senior Egyptian soldiers in Yoruba land in the ancient times. These caps are similar in shape to the crown worn by the kings of Upper Egypt in the ancient times.
* The traditional title name of “Oba” for Yoruba Kings and Igbo Kings originated from the ancient Egyptian title name “Hoga” which was the military title for the King of ancient Egypt in the old Kingdom.
* The ancient Yoruba military title name “Oga Iso” (or ogiso in Benin language) means “senior guard” and it comes from the title name of the commanders of the Egyptian soldiers posted from Egypt to Yoruba land to guard the Egyptian gold mines in Yoruba land.
* The ancient Yoruba military title name “Oga Are Ona Ka Ka Nfo” means “Commander of the region on the road to King Ka’s ships” and it is the title name of the most senior military officer among the Egyptian soldiers posted from Egypt to Yoruba land to guard the Egyptian gold mines in Yoruba land.
* King Ka of Upper Egypt, who raigned 3200 B.C., was the Egyptian King that started the minning of gold from Yoruba land and Igbo land and he builth ships to sail on the River Niger and River Benue to carry the minned gold.
*In the ancient times Yoruba Egyptian Saa people and Igbo Cushitic Kwa people living in Western and Eastern Nigeria traded with ancient Egypt, Ethiopia, Kush, Nubia, Troy, Tyre, Isreal, Syria, and Carthage.
* Queen Bisi Adisa Baba of Sheba in Ethiopia, daughter of King Adisa Baba, a Shasu King of Asu (now Aksum) Kingdom of Ethiopia, visited King Solomon in Jerusalem in Canaan from Yagba in Yoruba land with caravans of gold minned from Yoruba land and with hundreds of Egyptian escorts in 950 B. C.
* Queen Dido of Tyre in Canaan the founding and reigning Queen of Carthaginia and her sisters Elissa and Anna visited Yoruba land and Igbo land from ancient Carthaginia with hundreds of Carthaginian and Egyptian escorts in 625 B. C. Queen Dido did not return back to carthage.
* Queen Dido and some of her Carthaginian people settled in Igbo land and intermaried with the Igbo Cushitic people and Yoruba Egyptians Saa people living there. Queen Dido founded a dynasty of Cushitic female rulers or Queens that ruled a Cushitic Kingdom in Igbo land with the royal title of Dodi.
* There were giants ten feet tall called Eniga or Ga people in Yoruba land in the ancient times and there were dwarf pygmies four feet tall called Yaru or Kotori or Chaa people in Igbo land in the ancient times.
* Queen Dido’s descendants (called Adagbe) and the Ga people and Ewe people migrated from Igbo land to Accra in Ghana where they settled and established a Cushitic Adagbe Kingdom of King Kush and Queen Dodi in 1400 A.D. at Akwara (now Accra) and Akwamu. The Kingdom still exists till today.
* The modern English word soldier meaning millitant comes from the Ancient Egyptian Warrior word “Iso Ija” which means “Guards for Battle”.
* The non-tonal Saa language which was the major language (Lingua Franca) of ancient Egypt from 8,000 B.C. to around 1,000 B.C. is very similar to the modern Yoruba language and modern Igbo language.
* All the major languages that descended from ancient Egyptian such as Aramaic, Hebrew, Arabic and Syriac are all very similar to the modern Yoruba language and modern Igbo language.
* The ancient Egyptian writings refer to Yoruba land as “The fields of Yaru” and Igbo land as “Yam”. The ancient Egyptian compound word Yaru means Child (Ya – Mother, Ru – Carries, Yaru – mother carries). Yaru is a reference to the children like dwarf pygmies that once lived in Yoruba land and Igbo land.
* The word Niger comes from the ancient Egyptian word Eniga which means a giant person.
* The name Yoruba was forced on the inhabitants of western Nigeria by the British. The name Yoruba is a derivative of the derogatory Yaribansa (meaning Bastard child) used by the Hausa and Fulani.
* The real name of the Egyptian Saa speaking people called Yoruba people in the ancient times is Isakiri.
*The names Bauchi and Auchi came from the name Kwuchi for ancient Cushitic Igbo people from Kush.
*The names Ka-Nam (now Ka-Nem) and Ka-Nam-Bia (now A-Nam-Bra) came from the name Nam for ancient Cushitic Igbo Kwa people from Nam-Bia (now Nubia) in modern day Sudan.
*The name Zaria came from the name Saaria for Yoruba people from ancient Lower Egypt. The original name for Yoruba people is Saaria or Saamaria or Isakiri. The original name for Yoruba land is Ile Saa.
*The Yoruba people and Igbo people have lived in Yoruba land and Igbo land for more than 5000 years before the arrival of the Hausa people and Fulani people now living in Northern Nigeria.
* The Hausa people in Hausaland came from Somalia to Northern Nigeria in 1200 A.D. during the period of expansion of the Mali Empire. They were refugees and soldiers from Somalia.
* The Mai people in Maiduguri came from Mali to Northern Nigeria (Hausaland) in 1300 A.D. during the period of expansion of the Mali Empire. They were rebel soldiers from Mali Empire.
* The Fulani people in Hausaland came from Morocco to Northern Nigeria (Hausaland) in 1800 A.D. They were soldiers and refugees from Morocco.
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Information as you posted itt can be misleading as far as I am concerned. Even if you're so desirous to establish connection of migration of Yoruba, then you need do better than ‘Ifa Oro' because it is a false cognate or a false assumption, even if Yoruba history is filled with myth and word's contraction due to migration, names of Yoruba Pioneer ancestor was Èborà( Transliterated in English as Abram) . Invariably, work harder to establish a point that can be a reference in the future.

The closest to Faro (Pharaoh) in Yoruba lexicon is Àrolè,which the meaning is an apparent heir to the throne in the same vein, Faro is known as king on the throne.Unfortunately, Ifaodu is a what's known as Ephod in English transliteration.Thus, Ifaodu is semitic in origin. Therefore, don't be in a rush to prove a point but anxious to learn. Ibo and Yoruba aren't the same people even intermarriage has existed for thousands of years. Yoruba identity is distinct from alot of nowadays western Africans.

Again,the Kings crown of Yoruba is Semitic origin and not Egyptian's or Africa's. You can do research on it . The Yoruba sword is Semitic in origin. The Yoruba names are Semitic in origin devoid of Arabic names. The Yoruba houses weren't learned from Egyptians at all but partly builder of Egyptian land. You see there is a a group of people called Coptic Egyptians Christians. And these people's left Egypt after invasion by Islam. Interestingly, these language has so many words shared with Yoruba and Semitic. The same way Ifaodu called Afa found in ancient Egypt, Morroco i.e North Africa after migration out f that land. In all of these, there is more to this than meets the eye.

gregyboy,

In fairness, you are entitle to your opinion though fact override all non conformity to the well researched case study as it seems. There are fact in Brazil's history that acknowledge the autochthonous Tupi, Guarani and many others but the three main groups who are the actual pioneer settlements in Brazil today's world either through same group or more commonly, in admixture in varying degrees. And these are

1. The Earlier European ,which Portuguese were in large quantity.

2. The Portuguese Christians that's heavily of Sephardic Jew

3. Subsahara group that's heavily made of Yoruba, Ewe,Akan, Bantu and others

If you also look at the arrangement of Brazil's settlement, you will realized that the Ethnic group in Brazil are ranked as

1. Brancos (White Brazilians) 47.73%

2. Pardo (Combined European, Native, and African Ancestry) 43.13%

3.Pretos (African-Brazilians) 7.61%

4.Amarelos (Asian Brazilian) 1.09%


From above analysis, you can see the Ooni has a case, if one considers the admixture of Brazilians groups. Bear in mind, maternal or paternal lineage in Yoruba group is held both in high esteem. Therefore I choose not engage people who compare Ibo against Yoruba people because,they have bias mind toward Yoruba, in the same vein some Edos do and not willing to accept the truth as regard, Yoruba footprint in Nigeria and the rest of the world. It will interesting to read that
Flinders Petrie classified the terra-cotta heads found in IleIfe between 1910-1912 by Leo Frebonius, with similar objects found at Memphis, and posited that the date to the 5th century BC. Kindly make enquiry on Flinders Petrie profile!


It will interest you that almighty God or power behind nature doesn't make mistake,who gave a more light upon Yoruba, which is the reason she has the largest twin birth in the world. Haven't you ponder over this ? And no matter the source of anyone's diet, no group in the whole wide world has match this. So, don't be surprise if you see a Caucasian or Mulatto who is Yoruba because blood is thicker than water. Besides, people are so proud to be associated with Yoruba lineage.


Lastly,I am not popular as you think. Just correcting some anomalies from a just angle.


Cheers

MetaPhysical:
Eyo masquerade has become a part of Igbo tradition.

Chineke gozie gi!

Lol.....Haba, let the Ibo be . Yoruba Rocks.

Thatssobeyonce:
Lol people are divided into d good nd bad
Politicians are responsible for that

Good point. Stay true always to yourself.

MetaPhysical:
My own greatgrandmother, Ashake, ( may her loving soul rest in peace) is buried in a well preserved underground crypt. I was little when she died but old enough that I had awareness of her and the memorable times I spent in her loving care. The crypt she lies in holds her own parents and grandparents....who were the first settlers on the coastal village. Standing at the crypt you can see the beach and the ocean. There are two mysteries to the crypt itself and then the bodies in it.

1. Any underground work on a beach settlement will be in water usually at 3 or 4 feet deep. This is why beach settlements dont dig wells because salt water will fill the well.

So how was it possible to retain the walls of a crypt 6feet under at a beach village? There is a technique and a science to it.

2. How was it possible to preserve bodies hundred years old under ground in an accessible crypt? There is also a technique and science to this. It's an ancient knowledge mostly lost.

What Ooni is talking about mummification exists in Yorubaland.

Those who ever visited graves in Lagos Island will attest that their graves and crypts are raised above ground level. This is because waterbed is high (very close to surface) and if you dig to bury body underground you will hit water. Given, Lagos Island is sorrounded by fresh water. From history, the only cemetry that ever had underground burial was a place called "Teku" (...that's Campos). Lagos City Council finally decommissioned and transferred bodies out for health reasons and concern for the living.

The connection between Ife mummification and Egypt mummification will open pages into the history of IFE and the direction of exchange and migration.

Were Yoruba originally at Ife, then left out to Afro Asia, and then after many centuries of sojourn returned home back to Yorubaland....or was Ife the domain and capital of a peer pre-existing civilization which was settled and occupied by migrant Yoruba from an Afro Asian origin?

Quite astonishing what the Ooni said. But have you ever notice the following people and the disappearance of the majority of the people and the language ?

1. Ancient Canaanite: Stopped existence after the conquest of the first Temple

2. Ancient Hebrew : Stopped existence after the conquest and seizure of their scroll that replica were made and sold to the Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Egyptians etc

3. Coptic Christians in Egypt: Stopped existence and traces were not found after the invasion by Islamic warriors

Shocking Revelation is that you can read Classic Hebrew as I do because the language didn't die as thought by the Western scholars. The ancient Hebrew language has being in English transliteration before the phonetic translation in the same language .It is fun and Godly.

Yoruba people, the Custodian of the world authentic history of the almighty God called Iwa,who created heaven and earth in Nineveh(NinuIfe), a land around the Tigrisand Euphrates River. The people whose language is codified as the Bible . The people who brought religion of God to the planet Earth because they are the chosen of God for his purpose. The People whose purpose of their creation is to show the world through the spared family of the world after the destruction of the land of Oorù(אור Or) in Middle East, with water, that he alone be feared and revered as the Life and the only creator of everything.

The Yoruba people who're admired because of their understanding of the power of the God that spoke and it became known to men as Efaodu . The Efaodu that was heard through Ebora(Abram), the one whose name is drawn from Ora אור . The name Ora came out of Ora mi e Ala, who is the creator of the world in the book of life. The same name Allah(God) that Islam took from the Yoruba, whose ancestor was known as being associated to everything light. The same light that is the creator that walked with Ebora(Abram) my God companion, Hebrew~ (Ala bari). The light, Ora ninuufe, that called Ebora(Abram) to obey his word. This obedience of Yoruba Ebora( Abram), brought salvation to the whole world through Yeshua~Adamo orisa( Eshu). No Wonder the Yoruba land is religion centre of Nigeria and the world. Read it in Bible , Genesis 1:3) to the light of the sun (Isaiah 30:6), the light of instruction (Proverbs 6:23), the light of one's face (Proverbs 16:15), and the light of God (Psalm 4:6, Isaiah 10:17).

Hate to Love Yoruba's at your peril.Love to Hate Yoruba's or Love to Love Yoruba so that you become the blessing to your own families in your far and non Yoruba enclave. Stay in the land of the Yoruba and be blessed because it is the land of Chosen of God. Yoruba people are eternally blessed.

MetaPhysical:
Guy, stop mixing Yoruba and Igbo in discussion about history. This your attachee is to find a credible past for Igbo. Igbo has never had a civilization. We cant see anything of a civilized past in Igbo. Stop attaching them to us. Let Igbo speak for its own civilization without a mention of Yoruba.

In fact you should be attaching to Igala, not Yoruba.

Honestly, I can't imagine, someone would take his or her time to write fictious information about Yoruba language simply because of attaching sentiment to Egypt.The Op actually blundered beyond redemption because it a shame to bring up a write up about Yoruba language that isn't of African origin. Infact the yoruba ritual language taught a lot of people her language in Africa,even the so called Ibos. Although Yoruba did borrow few too. Again, the Christian Bible contains the Old Testament written in Hebrew with a small amount of Aramaic and the New Testament written in Greek. How then does this Op claim Aramaic is the mother of Hebrew language ? Let Op go read about Flinders Petrie and Dr. Alan H. Gardiner,if indeed he or she is interested in learning Ancient Hebrew.

MetaPhysical:
Guy, stop mixing Yoruba and Igbo in discussion about history. This your attachee is to find a credible past for Igbo. Igbo has never had a civilization. We cant see anything of a civilized past in Igbo. Stop attaching them to us. Let Igbo speak for its own civilization without a mention of Yoruba.

In fact you should be attaching to Igala, not Yoruba.

Honestly, I can't imagine, someone would take his or her time to write fictious information about Yoruba language simply because of attaching sentiment to Egypt.The Op actually blundered beyond redemption because it a shame to bring up a write up about Yoruba language that isn't of African origin. Infact the yoruba language taught a lot of people her language in Africa,inluding the Ibos. Plain fact is hard to swallow. Again,the Christian Bible contains the Old Testament written in Hebrew with a small amount of Aramaic and the New Testament written in Greek. How then does this Op claim Aramaic is the mother of Hebrew language ? Let Op go read about Flinders Petrie and Dr. Alan H. Gardiner,if indeed he or she is interested in learning Ancient Hebrew.

computergenius:
SOME EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT THE YORUBA PEOPLE AND IGBO PEOPLE MIGRATED FROM EGYPT
How The Hebrew Language and Arab Language originated from the fusion of
Yoruba Egyptian Saa Language and Igbo Cushitic Nubian Kaa Language

The non-tonal Saa Language was spoken in North Africa and ancient Egypt from 8,000 B.C to 1,000 B.C. It is now known as Egyptian Saa Language. Egyptian Saa Language is the ancestor of the Yoruba language. Likewise, the non-tonal Kaa Language was spoken in South Africa and ancient Nubia from 8,000 B.C. to 1,000 B.C. It is now known as Cushitic Kaa Language. Cushitic Nubian Kaa Language is the ancestor of the Igbo language.
Ancient Egypt and ancient Cushitic Nubia were next door neighbours. As Cushitic Nubians migrated into Egypt the Saa Language of the Egyptians and the Kaa Language of the Cushitic Nubians gradually merged together to form a new language known as Aramaic. Aramaic is essentially a mixture of Yoruba Egyptian Saa Language and Igbo Cushitic Kaa Language. This new language called Aramaic is the ancestor of both the Modern Hebrew language and Arab languages. Aramaic became the main language (lingua franca) of Egypt thousands of years before the Hebrew migrations out of Egypt. The ancestors of the Jews learnt both the Egyptian Saa Language and Cushitic Nubian language in Egypt as both were spoken there and they also spoke both languages fluently. Therefore, Aramaic was the major language of the ancient Hebrews before emergence of the Hebrew Language which is itself a dialect of Aramaic. As people migrated out of Egypt into Canaan and Mesopotamia Aramaic became the official language or lingua franca of the people of Canaan, the Middle East, and some parts of Europe. The Holy bible was first written in Aramaic and translated latter into Greek.

More Evidence that Igbo people migrated from Ancient Cush (Kwuchi) in Nubia in Sudan through Ancient Egypt into Igbo Land And Yoruba People migrated From Ancient Egypt into Yoruba land
[/b]Igbo words (Cushitic Words) found in the Bible
Cush or Kush means “Kwuchi” or “Chukwu”
Kush is a Hebrew or Aramaic word which means “the dead resurrects”.
The equivalent Igbo words or ancient Cushitic words that means the same thing is “kwu chi” or “kwuchi” or “chi okwu” or “Chukwu”. The equivalent Yoruba words or ancient Egyptian words that means the same thing is “Okwu jhi” or “jhi Okwu”.

[b]Talitha Cumi (found at Mark 5:41) means “Nta lite kuo ume”
Talitha Cumi is a Hebrew or Aramaic phrase which means “little child wake up and start breathing”.
The equivalent Igbo words or ancient Cushitic words that means the same thing is “Nta lite kuo ume”.
The equivalent Yoruba words or ancient Egyptian words that means the same thing is “Ndan dide kio mi”.

Cherubim means “Chere Ubim”
Cherubim is a Hebrew or Aramaic phrase which means “guard my home”.
The equivalent Igbo words or ancient Cushitic words that means the same thing is “Chere Ubim”.
The equivalent Yoruba words or ancient Egyptian words that means the same thing is “She eru ibi mi”.

Sabbath means “Asaa bu taa”
Sabbath is a Hebrew or Aramaic phrase which means “today is seventh”.
The equivalent Igbo words or ancient Cushitic words that means the same thing is “Asaa bu taa”.
The equivalent Yoruba words or ancient Egyptian words that means the same thing is “Asaa tun wa” or “Ose tun wa” or “eje tun wa” depending on the dialect.

Deuteronomy means “De tere nu Umu”
Deuteronomy is a Hebrew or Aramaic word which means “written down for the children”.
The equivalent Igbo words or ancient Cushitic words that means the same thing is “De tere nu umu”.
The equivalent Yoruba words or ancient Egyptian words that means the same thing is “Di itan ire fun omo mi”.

Genesis means “Jee na isi isi”
Genesis is a Hebrew or Aramaic word which means “go to the very first”.
The equivalent Igbo words or ancient Cushitic words that means the same thing is “Jee na isi isi”. The equivalent Yoruba words or ancient Egyptian words that means the same thing is “Je eni shi esi”.

More Evidence that Yoruba People migrated From Ancient Egypt into Yoruba land And that Igbo people migrated from Ancient Cush (Kwuchi) [/b]in Nubia in Sudan through Ancient Egypt into Igbo Land
Yoruba words (Ancient Egyptian Words) found in the Bible
The similarity between Aramaic , Hebrew, Yoruba and Igbo languages is evidence that the Yoruba people are descended from ancient Egyptians and the Igbo people are descended from ancient Cush (proper name of Cush is Kwuchi). The similarity or resemblance of the Aramaic language and Hebrew to the Yoruba Egyptian Saa Language and Igbo Cushitic Kaa Language is demonstrated by using quotations from the Bible.
[b]“Eli, Eli, la ma sa bach tha ni” means “Ori, Ori, lo ma sa ba tan mi”
In the Gospels Jesus spoke in Hebrew or Aramaic:
“Eli, Eli, la ma sa bach tha ni” meaning “My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?”.
The equivalent of this same statement having the same meaning in the Egyptian Saa Language is:
“Ori, Ori, lo ma sa ba tan mi” meaning “My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?”.
The equivalent of this same statement having the same meaning in the modern Yoruba Language is:
“Olu, Olu, lo ma sa ba da mi” meaning “My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?”.

“Jerusalem” means “Je eru sala imu”
Another example is the Hebrew or Aramaic words “Jerusalem” which translates literally as “Let the slaves escape capture”. In the Egyptian Saa Language and in the modern Yoruba language the equivalent sentence is “je eru sa la imu” meaning “Let the slaves escape capture”. This means that the walled and fortified city of Jerusalem was originally built by slaves that escaped from their masters and sought refuge and security in it.

“Abraham” means “A bura aha imu”
Another example is the Hebrew or Aramaic words “Abraham” which translates literally as “an oath (or covenant) was sworn and he was chosen”. In the Egyptian Saa Language and in the modern Yoruba language the equivalent sentence is “A bura aha imu” meaning “an oath (or covenant) was sworn and he was chosen”. This means that Abraham was a man who had an oath or covenant with God.

“Aram” means “Ara mi”
Another example is the Hebrew or Aramaic words “Aram” which translates literally as “My brethren”. In the Egyptian Saa Language and in the modern Yoruba language the equivalent sentence is “Ara mi” meaning “My brethren” or “My body” depending on the context in which it was used.

“Arab” means “Ara ibi”
Another example is the Hebrew or Aramaic words “Arab” which translates literally as “the brethren’s place”. In the Egyptian Saa Language and in the modern Yoruba language the equivalent sentence is “Ara ibi” meaning “the brethren’s place” or “the body in this place” depending on the context in which it was used.

“Arabia” means “Ara ibi a”
Another example is the Hebrew or Aramaic words “Arabia” which translates literally as “our brethren’s place”. In the Egyptian Saa Language and in the modern Yoruba language the equivalent sentence is “Ara ibi a” meaning “our brethren’s place” or “our body in this place” depending on the context in which it was used.

“Arania” means “Ara ini a”
Another example is the Hebrew or Aramaic words “Arania” which translates literally as “our brethren’s possession”. In the Egyptian Saa Language and in the modern Yoruba language the equivalent sentence is “Ara ini a” meaning “our brethren’s possession” or “our possessed body” depending on the context in which it was used.

“Allah” means “Ala”
Another example is the Aramaic or Arabic word “Allah” which translates literally as “Provider”. In the Egyptian Saa Language and in the modern Yoruba language the equivalent sentence is “Ala” meaning “our allower” or “our survival” or “our provider” depending on the context in which it was used. It should be mentioned here that Ala is an ancient deity or idol worshiped by the Saa people and Kaa people who are the ancestors of both the Egyptians and the Yoruba and Igbo people. Since the ancient times till today, traditional priests of Odinani in Igbo land still worship Ala.

“a sala mu a lekum” means “a sala imu ni a nikun”
Another example is the Arabic sentence “a sala mu a lekum” which translates literally as “Escape from capture (i.e. peace) in abundance”. In the Egyptian Saa Language and in the modern Yoruba language the equivalent sentence is “a sala imu ni a nikun” meaning “Escape from capture (i.e. peace) in abundance”.

“alu bari ka” means “alo dari kawo”
Another example is the Arabic sentence “alu bari ka” which translates literally as “going on trade and returning with money to count”. In the Egyptian Saa Language and in the modern Yoruba language the equivalent sentence is “alo dari kawo” meaning “going on trade and returning with money to count”.

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Your information on Yoruba is absolutely wrong because all you have stated isn't true as regard the cognates . The truth is that you ought visit Yoruba hinterland to start with,so as tto have stint of older Yoruba dialects. Take for instance, Olu is a modern Yoruba word of 18th century from Oyo because Elu was the actual Yoruba word for Lord. How do you now come up with your research of about Aramaic that was spoken 2000 years years ago? Again, classic Hebrew is older than Aramaic. Google is your friend to know this,as regard the language of the Hebrew that the pictograph was found in Egypt. This ancient Hebrew's language is different from Nubians language or whatever African language you are so desirous to lump up with.

Bundaweber:
shows the incoherence and inconsistency of ur tale. so Nigeria's trek from Nigeria to Libya Do you know the average distance travelled by a horse, especially a large caravan of them with a large retinue of persons? Where the horses specially bred to be able to weather the discrepancies in climatic and topographical conditions? pls learn about travel logistics of that era and see if your claims will not appear to be flimsy at best and a pathetic and laughable. it's best to claim that the civilizations are descended from the great Sudanese civilization through the Nok civilization.

I don't know Nigeria but Yorubas. And people did travelled to this present day part of West Africa. Sometimes, I wonder how people like jump into conclusion without considering factors that can not negate the migration of people. Have you never thought of people camping in between migrating? Do you know who were the coptic christain in Egypt? You see, one of the greatest grandeur undoing in lives of many of your likes is that you people underestimated the people who built an elephant tusk with Semitic inscription that predated Nigeria. Yes ,it is true. Go understand the meaning of pitchfork in your glorious Egypt, Greek, Roman etc to be compared with Opa Oranimiyan staff. Only and only if you knew who the Yoruba ancestors who were, the chosen people of God , perhaps you will understand.

I have seen a lot of gibberish on this forum and I do laugh over it because, people are actually not ready to learn.

Amujale:
Oranmiyan ni ajagun segun.

Idiniyi ti a fi ma nki Oranya ni wipe:

O ba ina ja, o da ina.
O ba orun ja, o da orun.
O ba agbada ja lese omi, o dagbada.
Gbajure.

Oranmiyan akin orun.
Okunrin pupa Iyana.
Okunrin gagagugu ti ngba ojutoro wole.
Onile o ju opopo.
Abule gogoro.
Atofarati ma jaya lolo.
Elenpe iwagun.
O wa'gun f'eru.
O wa'gun f'omo.
Akin nile.
Akin logun.
Ofodofodo.
Ofodo fodo.
Ofoyara, Fo kanga.
At'odo ati Iyara.
Ko si kan to le da baba duro.
Gbajure.

Born2Breed:
There are different sides to a story. The Yoruba's have theirs and the Benin's also have theirs.

Believe your side and let us believe our own side.

Just like the conversation that transpired between Oba Akenzua and Ooni Aderemi.

Ooni Aderemi said to Oba Akenzua.. "our son is welcomed back home"
Oba Akenzua said to Ooni Aderemi... "if Ooni calls me his son,he is right and if I call him my son, I am right"

During the coronation of Oba Ewuare 2, he said in the presence of Ooni Ogunwusi. ..."you cannot tell me my story and I cannot tell you yours"


We are here to celebrate the greatness of Oba Oramiyan, Aalafin Oramiyan and Ooni Oramiyan.

Even with your rhetoric, your Bini King admitted that the ọbà or obà is of Yoruba origin, which was part of the obà Ewuare II's speech to the world when he firstly appeared publicly.


You see,he or she that bow not to his ancestors will naturally diminish out of recognition and existence.Bini Oba knows the truth about his own history. Meanwhile,enjoy your opinion until the ‘code breaker' uses ancient writing to null your fake and illusionary stories.

ImperialYoruba:
In addition, I should let you know that any monarchy in Nigeria that coronates with sword has Yoruba roots.

In Africa, the throne of kingdoms are symbolized by SPEAR. When a King coronates he is handed a Spear. Cultures that do not have kingdoms or empires have MACHETTE. Go through African history and review the history of the ancient kingdoms and empires and you will see this commonality amongst all - the symbol of spear or machette.

There are exceptions.

Yoruba kingdoms and Empires coronate with swords. There is a history behind this. This is not the thread to tell it.

Never for once have I taken time to research this peculiar information on sword of Yoruba and African Spear. What does this mean? You actually brought a goldmine information that its worth is priceless. Yeshua bless you abundantly, imperialYoruba

etinanguy:
I doubt the first pic was taken between 1905-1911. Look at the modern day smooth concrete design wall. For your information am an architect who deals with vintage designs and i can categorically say that, this pic was taken from 1949 upward. This design came up after the end of second world war and it was the Germans architects that brought up this design and it became prominent in the 1950s.


Etinanguy

Your Doubt has nothing to do with Yoruba's history. Kindly view Ife-Sungbo Archeological Project -Mission to see some of the feat of the ancient Yorubas. NL is far from some germane information that is about Yoruba people. In fact, Samuel Ajayi Crowder's picture existed before 1900,so also Ogedengbe Agbogungbro's picture existed before 1900. And as at 1938 upward , The Alaafin of Oyo was , Lamidi Olayiwola Atanda Adeyemi, even with pictures. Thus, your 1949 and 1950 are false. Get your fact correctly about Yoruba people before misleading your readers.

lordskid:
One of the shackled minds is here. Beta go de-program yaself & stop wallowing in darkness. "Fraud Theory" indeed!

Just look straight at the mirror and see your bodily wreathed ignorance. People like you have nothing to add positively to the unraveling the mystery of the world's creation from an angle science will keep searching for till the creator of light and fiery sun appears. This is the same reason your ignorance will remain forever ,since you don't want to learn because you and your kinds will continually remained ignorant since it seems to you that English language is the only language on earth !

As far as I am concern, you are the one that need upgrade yourself because, English language you understand is even a new language in the context of world's older languages . A language that developed from Germanic and non Germanic languages . Look at yourself?

In as much you thought atheism is what you believed in, then it shows you are, ‘LOST' of how God came to be. Even at the glory of Socrates,Aristotle, Pluto etc, who were mortar philosophers couldn't unravel the mystery of how life got created. Honestly, I mock you and your type because I have seen the power of God in absolutism in the beauty of his creation! Better look up and seek God with contrite heart.

lordskid:
Religion is a cruel joke on the masses. Their minds have been rendered useless for any worthy purpose. This is an eyesore. The saying is true: "....fake product always win (like Jesus over Lucifer)"

So you think as your mentors do! Unfortunately for you people, the following havent been achieved by your teachers:

1. No scientific theory can proof the big bang theory as claimed by scientists

2. No amount of tuberous food,such as yam can make any ethnic group, except Yoruba group as the largest ethnicity with twin birth in whole world.


3. No science theory can make a life,except fraud theory


4. No science can proof total numbers of human hair except fraud theory


5. No scientific theory can understand how fish falls from the sky exept fraud theory


6. No scientific theory can explain how man speak


7. No scientific theory can explain how palm tree came to be except fruad theory


8. No scientific theory can explain where water came from except fraud theory


9. Scientific theory can not actually understand the reason some animals became extinct except.


10. Scientific theory claimed the Ape is the ancestor of human being, whose name is called Lucy.Yet the closest to human being as regard animal with a great IQ (intelligent quotient) is dolphins.



So,it is a perpetual ignorance with grandeur backwardness if you stand to understand religion from Godly angle!

baby124:
Olopa for police is, one who holds the batton. This is because the first police men in Nigeria only carried Batons. Olopa does not mean priests in this context.

. Olode is hunters who doubled as security and they carried guns. If the first police carried guns or weapons they may have been known as Olode today. Eso is also security that carries a weapon.

Slave is Eru and freeborn is Omo. That is why Yoruba say bi a se bi Eru la fi bi Omo. Showing the liberal nature of Yoruba society towards slaves. The proverb says a freeborn and slave are born the same and came to the world the same. So, they are equal and slaves should not be treated too harshly.

In the context of club's introduction,it was as a form of Britain's stylish policing. And it became a separated form of policing of the Yoruba of the antiquity. Unlike English western educated Yorubas of the era of the 18th /early 19th century that wrongfully altered certain meaning that's not in accordance of the daily speakers of Yoruba language even till today. Interestingly, baton or club has been in Yoruba land with its usage, which weren't flung in the society as a threat to erroneous set of people in the orderly Yoruba duchies, kingdoms and empire. The word known as , ‘ọ́lọ́ - ọ́pá' (ọ́lọ́pá) stand the test of time before the coinage of ‘ọlọ̀pàá' ,an English's Christians elite's policemen who hold stick', of 18th/ early19th century Yoruba- English Dictionary.