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 Culture › Re: Have They Ever Spoken Your Local Dialect Against You Unknowingly To Them? by Olu317(m): 5:27pm On Dec 05, 2019 |
GOFRONT:I don't know if it was true about the Op's submission, but he actually wrote his mind on this platform. Perhaps, you were at the scene of the damnation! The fact is that the OP got what he wants; ‘attention'. So, I dont blame your type. Yet, his intention is to make it look as if he is innocent and to guess the identical of the culprits.After all, Mokola na Yoruba land. Interestingly, Yoruba is intelligible to Igala speakers. |
| Culture › Re: Have They Ever Spoken Your Local Dialect Against You Unknowingly To Them? by Olu317(m): 2:19pm On Dec 05, 2019 |
Tharaja:You, Tharaja, indrectly painted Yoruba as bad people, which remained the reason, I had to outrightly damn your alliance asYoruba person, as you stated it as ,..... “In my local language, he said: "This Yoruba boy wen stand for our front don go Smoke weed finish come dey sneeze for people body" The above statement is an insult to us Yoruba because, I am a citizen of this largest ethnic homogenous group in Africa ,whose language is the most spoken outside Africa. Since you are Igala person, so stand for who are and don't muddle up your identity, which is different from Yoruba identity. After all, Igala is Borgu, Nupe group that found themselves amidst Yoruba few element because there's a slight close relationship between Yoruba language and Igala but not a Yoruba language. Thus, it is not of any intention to engage because, if you don't damn my nationality in the pattern you posited your view by inserting this hypocrisy against Yoruba people,then you and I won't have any reason to engage on this thread of yours. |
| Culture › Re: Samuel Adegbola: Supreme Court Dethrones First-Class Oyo Monarch, Eleruwa by Olu317(m): 11:49am On Nov 30, 2019 |
ednut1:Well, if you are Yoruba, you can change your alliance to Europeans and void your identity and if you are not, then know it that one who has no kingly lineage can infer as you do because you're a bias being who have no knowledge of Yoruba's king. The same way government political officer short changed the wrong person for the right is the reason you see all these manipulation in Yoruba land. Perhaps, you ought go speak on BBC to dethrone the Queen of England   . I am sure you know they have mayors and representative at their legislative arm in Great Britain. Yoruba land isn't United States of America. After all, Yoruba ancient kings gave all Yoruba the glory they have today in terms of comparison with western world medieval Art and science. I am blooded Yoruba with heavy history and proud of my ancestors positive impact with great influence over the world. Before English people understood genealogy ,the Yoruba Obas had established it, centuries before your English people. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Culture › Re: Tribes And Groups Of Nigeria by Olu317(m): 9:37am On Nov 30, 2019*. Modified: 11:36am On Nov 30, 2019 |
YoussufAp:1. Description of Nigeria is wrong. This is because Nigeria is more than 100 ethnic groups linguistically with over sub ethnic of 250+ . 2.An understanding of Nigeria is through her culture. One can know this by visiting each ethnic group to understand how each ethnic group define her worldview. 3. Yes, Nigeria is complex with so many difference in ideology and form of each ethnic form of civility. 4.British conspiracy is holding Nigeria together because she bought,‘The Royal Niger Company' , which became the name of Nigeria ( Niger~ Area).All thanks to Frederick Lord Luggard and his wife . This company was a mercantile company chartered by the British government in the nineteenth century. It was formed in 1879 as the United African Company. 4.As far as I am concern,Nigeria is defined as a nation by her flag.Beside,she is placed as a country created to be the most populous English language speakers in Africa,which make it a hoax unity. Southern Nigeria and Northern Central have an ideology which based mostly on western education while the core Northern East and North west basically have an ideology based on Arabic oriented ideology. |
| Culture › Re: What Is The Yoruba Word For "Oak Tree" by Olu317(m): 11:27pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Lonelypacifist6:Don't bother about the lad thing, because the person I quoted earlier was right about the Yoruba meaning of oak tree while I posited the other meaning to identify it which as far as I am concern it is of 1911 Yoruba dictionary. The point is,no man is at the outright pinnacle of all knowledge. |
| Culture › Re: What Is The Yoruba Word For "Oak Tree" by Olu317(m): 11:25pm On Nov 28, 2019*. Modified: 6:38pm On Dec 11, 2019 |
Lonelypacifist6:Don't bother about the lad thing, because the person I quoted while I posited the other meaning to identify the meaning by me was not a self knowledge of mine but of 1911 dictionary. |
| Culture › Re: What Is The Yoruba Word For "Oak Tree" by Olu317(m): 7:02pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
Lonelypacifist6:Are you really serious? You must be a funny lad. |
| Culture › Re: R--B--. A Cult Of The Sustainer, The Nourisher Of Mankind. by Olu317(m): 9:17am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Looking at some of the shared lexicons between Middle East and Yoruba such word as alujonu or anijonu and jinn in Yoruba lexicon and their place of origin both in Middle East and Yoruba land. Alujonu or anjonu is a word within Yoruba lexicon and non Yoruba, such as Muslims in Nigeria etc, which is used for a supernatural creature. This word is interchangeable for a superhuman with mystical power in Yoruba language. However, a close cognate of this word is found among the Middles East, which is called jinn. Interestingly, The English version is known as genie. There is a belief that genies has roots in Mesopotamian legends. Genies (or jinn, as they are better known in the Arabic world). Jinn is an Arabic collective noun deriving from the Semitic root JNN (Arabic: جَنّ / جُنّ, jann), whose primary meaning is "to hide" or "to conceal". Some authors interpret the word to mean, literally, "beings that are concealed from the senses". Cognates include the Arabic majnūn ("possessed", or generally "insane"  , jannah ("garden", also “heaven”), and janīn ("embryo". Jinn is properly treated as a plural, with the singular being jinnī. The origin of the word Jinn amongst scholars remain uncertain. Some scholars relate the Arabic term jinn to the Latin genius, as a result of syncretism during the reign of the Roman empire under Tiberius Augustus, but this derivation is also disputed. Another suggestion holds that jinn may be derived from Aramaic "ginnaya" (Classical Syriac: with the meaning of "tutelary deity",or also "garden". Others claim a Persian origin of the word, in the form of the Avestic "Jaini", a wicked (female) spirit. Jaini were among various creatures in the possibly even pre-Zoroastrian mythology of peoples of Iran. Jinn were worshipped by many Arabs during the Pre-Islamic period, but, unlike gods, jinn were not regarded as immortal. In ancient Arabia, the term jinn also applied to all kinds of supernatural entities among various religions and cults; thus, Zoroastrian, Christian, and Jewish angels and demons were also called "jinn". Sūrat al-Jinn (Arabic: سورة الجن, “The Jinn”) is the seventy-second chapter of the Quran with 28 verses. The name as well as the topic of this chapter is jinn. Similar to angels, the Jinn are spiritual beings invisible to the naked human eye. In the Quran, it is stated that humans are created from the earth and jinn from smokeless fire in more than one instance. Ajan of yoruba and Jann of Semitic origin: Ajan Ajan is a supernatural creature among the Yoruba.This Ajan is controlled by the owner, who is a mystical human being that use the knowledge of the Ajan to achieve his endeavor. Jann (Arabic: جان, jann) is a type of Jinn in Arabian- and Islam-related lore which has several meanings: Designation for the Jinn-genus, to distinguish them from the term "Jinn" as a collective noun for all supernatural creatures.The father of all Jinn created from the fires of samum,sometimes identified with Iblis or Azazel.A primitive type of Jinn, which dwelled on earth before the actual Jinn emerged or a transformed type of Jinn, comparable how apes are related to humans. These Jann are regarded as the most harmless class of supernatural creatures. 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Origin, History and Canaanland connection. by Olu317(m): 4:13pm On Nov 22, 2019*. Modified: 4:34pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
mandarin:Oduduwa: This name flips between odudawa(odudua/odua) or dawaodu(daodu). And the name's origin is found both in ancient time in Near East and presently in Yoruba land in Nigeria. Interestingly, the man is seen as the progenitor of yoruba people and with the legitimate kingly title of Òoni(Àani); owner, wealthy, wealth,etc., although the title of bà or o bà is a generic identity which means king, lord , father, reign over, domineer etc is an absolute Yoruba word for a king. However, it is important to inform that this personality was the second king in term of priest king leader,who became known as the first priest-king in Yoruba's ancestors history. This doesn't mean there were no leaders before these two people but the past leaders didn't operated as full fledged King. According to a source of, ‘The Ikedu oral history text addressing Ife’s history (an annotated kings list transposed from the early Ife dialect; Akinjogbin n.d.) indicates that it was during the reign of Ife’s 46th king—what appears to be two rulers prior to the famous King Obalufon II that this violent civil war broke out that Odudua emerged as the king. Therefore, they were about 43 priest leaders before Odudua. Oranyan: History has it that odèdé , popularly known as, ora ni mi yah is his name, who was a name of a descendant of Odudua via Ogun La ka àyé's descent. He was said to be mightily strong both physically and spiritually . A prince with legitimate crown who was a mercenary. He left Ileife to establish Yoruba's O bá dynasty both in Igodomigodo known alternatively as Edo and Oyo to later returned back to Ileife to be crowned as Ooni. Agboniregun: The name agbon -ire- ogun is claimed amongst some set of ifaodu priests as the pioneer ifaodu priest. Interestingly, around 18th century, among different postulation about different views of the pioneer ifaodu priest . The major problem is that many people were assimilated into Yoruba family, who were servants from distant lands as votaries of Yoruba ancestors method of worshipping God which is heavily embedded in ifaodu,which is the more reason we find people referred to Ifaodu as oduifa. Furthermore it was said that one of the pioneer of ifaodu is shetila,who came to Ileife and was said to be a blind Nupe man and founder of ifaodu .Funnily, in Nupe land, there were no speaker of any form of Yoruba language in the ancient times nor any Shetila. The truth is that the pioneer of ifaodu priest was Ebiora/Ebora), who was the actual founder of Yoruba Race from the land Oru in the middle East, amongst the people of Aryan Race,whom the Yoruba addressed as Eniyan. Orunmila : This is a descriptive word of how the Eluron/Olorun(God) who domineer over the mystery of life and spirit world who is the God of creation that formed the earth through a complex part of him in the personality known as Ela. Ora un mi Ela is creator of mankind and his creation word is what is known as purity or light break forth light known and called ‘Ala'. In the Yoruba's ifaodu, the creator Ela is the one who created everything that has all to do with good or ills. He formed purity, holiness and fashion the fate of mankind on earth via Ala in what's is known as eleri ipin. This is explained the reason Orisha is what we as human worship in the morning. This orisa is the prayers rendered every morning in Yoruba's knowledge of good or evil. Each day, we pray for success, longlife, good health, peace of mind etc devoid of evil. Ela: This the name of creator and personality as above is same though the above name is a description of how things came to existence through Ela and the manifestation by ‘Ala'. Irumole: Imale This is an ancestral worship associated with God. Unfortunately, Many Yoruba Christians oriented and their Muslim counterpart ignorantly assumed, ancestral veneration are demonic,when in fact, people of old communicated with God via Shebo(ritual) while Ruruebo/Rubo is the ascension of it ,and prayer being offered to God for the acceptance. Owa It is a corruption of Iwa or Uwa. A name identified with Almighty God. This name is a perfectionist identity of God which is flawless,just, compassionate and every attribute of goodness. This is a name appeared as suffix in the progenitor of Yoruba; Da uwa odu Odu da uwa(Da'odu). At a point in time, descendants of Ooni Oshi imole picked up this name to identify with him either through patrilineal or matrilineal as a form of panegyric which is solely of Ooni's lineage. 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Origin, History and Canaanland connection. by Olu317(m): 7:11am On Nov 22, 2019*. Modified: 3:58pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Trust me, Yoruba language is a continuum language, though it drift slightly from their archaic form of spoken but does conform with the dialect spoken by Oyo people. A typical example : Oyo and modern Yoruba township says, in question: ta ni( who is),while the largest Yoruba dialects speakers says, e si ye-n/ e si wa ( it is who?). As far as I am concern the Yoruba are the people with the highest pride in the world because they don't feel inferior to anyone,which has been proved through research work. I have never seen a Yoruba person that feel subdued mentally or ideologically by any ethnic group in the world. Though the Yoruba aknowledge people, no matter how truth hurt. This is the reason, Idoko (Nupe) are acknowledged because Yoruba met these people,despite Yoruba's superior knowledge and establishment of kingdoms without tampering with these people's way of life. Funnily, Yoruba use Ifaodu as a leverage to teach people Yoruba language, which was the modus operandi for assimilation of somw of these people into Yoruba's family through intermarriages. This is the reason, you can find different ethnic group who migrated to Yoruba enclave to dwell and accept their form of worshipping God.This is reason, that you will notice Yoruba will always acknowledge the difference between them ,Nupe, Hausa Idoko or Gu(ègun) people because Yoruba have Oriki(panegyric), which they don't have until contact with Yoruba via marriage ; either through patrilineal or matrilineal. Ale is not only used in Ekimogun and Ikale because it is general word which is same in all Yoruba lexicon. This is the yoruba dialects is the toast of the rural people. Though Oyo, use ‘ole' to identify the same meaning, it is still within the same language. Surprisingly, the foundation of Yoruba settlement is their statement on such land. The ancient Yoruba identify ere(land which has mud to be used for art work), ule/ile( land for where to inhabit,ule/Ile( place of habitation), ode( foundation of one's settlement,O ba(one that reign over,lord etc. Interestingly, Oyo and general Yoruba use ode as synonymous with going out or to go partying, when in fact, Yoruba major dialects don't agree with this drift from Oyo speakers. This is reason that I discovered some erroneous words among Yoruba. Shocking information on the word, ‘baba', is a word that's used for priest, father in Indus valley,Arabia or as mother in part of Europe. Amongst, Nigeria , Yoruba use it as father's father, priest, highly respected man. Among the t Hausa language which is classified as Asiatic (Afro-Asia), use the word for father. The fact is, Yoruba ancestors brought this word to West Africa and Hausa picked it. The reason, I know this is that Hausa language is infiltrated with Islamic value and words. Unlike Yoruba people that have Ifaodu as the teacher's language. The Yoruba people's language is actually the teacher's language in Africa .It is a fallacy of the highest order to think Ibo and Yoruba language developed along same line when in fact, Yoruba language infiltrated the Ibo language, and they loaned words from Yoruba speakers which make some scholars to ignorantly assume Yoruba parted ways with Ibo's language some years ago. 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Have They Ever Spoken Your Local Dialect Against You Unknowingly To Them? by Olu317(m): 12:15am On Nov 20, 2019 |
Ardar:1. The Op is actually a liar : Kogi isn't a yoruba word and solely not a Yoruba ethnic group's state because they have more than two ethnic groups in that state. So, I find his story as incoherent with his claim of being a ‘yoruba' guy. Perhaps, you didn't comprehend that he claimed to be a Yoruba guy! ‘In my own local language'  . If he is indeed a Yoruba person ,why make it your problem? After all, it is supposed to be a Yoruba affair. 2. You fell for his/her concocted fake information: You're actually gullible because you are quick to the Op statement because not everything you read online is actually true. What if the scenario was about a Yoruba guy in midst of non Yorubas? Fictitious habit are seen every now and then. So,it is a norm among some circle of people to naturally create a scene for commotion online. 3. You are the one who doesn't know much about Yoruba people: Trust me, the Yoruba are more self restrained in term of respect than non Yoruba people without religion intonation ( Ile la ti ko ésho ro odi). This is the reason Yoruba men marry more women from other ethnic groups than vice versa in the whole of Nigeria.So, it is fact that Yoruba men with their ‘soft touch' make other ladies more comfortable. Interestingly extremely few Yoruba ladies marry non Yoruba people as compared to other ladies from other ethnic groups. This show their preference in marriage. Even if non Yoruba men married Yoruba ladies, kindly verify the children of such marriage as regard the preference to whom the children interact more with. 4. You defamed the character of a whole ethnic geoup with the homogenous largest ethnic group in Nigeria through your conclusive opinion: You seemingly assumed that some Agberos(transport tout) or other ill mannered people are all Yoruba people when in fact they are less than 0.01 % in comparison to Yoruba's entire ethnic group. Have you suddenly forgotten Yoruba is the most tolerant ethnic group in Nigeria? Besides, there is no ethnic group that does not acknowledged Yoruba land as the land of Almighty God. Fact are there for you to behold . I have seen many non Yoruba people in Yoruba land became millionair in $ without Yoruba people being xenophobia. Besides, most non Yoruba individual from other ethnic groups in Nigeria do have headquarter of their churches or businesses in Yoruba land.  . Stop the hate!5. You seem to admire Yoruba people even with their flaws: I am sure you probably had dated a Yoruba guy before because your aggressive attitude point to that direction and the footprint of such is in your heart. You see, we aren't perfect and do acknowledged our errors, which is the reason , Yoruba people are critics of the ills in the society, in the same manner praise to anyone who excel in a godly way in our society. Kindly try to condemn bad eggs in your own ethnic group even if they are rich. Yoruba don't worship money but strive to be rich. My final submittion is that : Any one from any ethnic group in the world could react on instance as being sneezed upon in an uncultured manner. |
| Culture › Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 6:36am On Nov 19, 2019*. Modified: 5:16pm On Jul 13, 2021 |
lawani:No Sir, I disagree with your postulation because Kemt understanding of the language of the Ora migrants into Egypt was actually different from both the Abari(Hebrew) or the ancient Yoruba people. Kemitic people or Egyptian painted this personality's picture as a horn man god in their writing while the Hebrew understood that Ora/Aram and Yoruba Oram ife as a powerful leader that was a mighty man who walk on earth with mystical knowledge. Interestingly , the language of semitic people evolved around this mysterious man's land which was in ‘Or' , in present day Iraq and span to Nineveh or Mesoptemia while Yoruba group understand the name as Ileife / Nineife/NinuIfe according Yoruba myth though Yoruba did a lot sustaining the language but without a standard form. So,it is an assumption on your part to pinned Yoruba's language to Africa in Egypt. As a matter of fact, the Yoruba language was a teacher's language because when a teacher's language arrive into a community, it gradually becomes the toast to the learners,who will naturally switch between the loaned words of the teachers language and the autochthonal language. Look around the Yoruba's neighboring groups and see the teacher's language that are Yoruba's. This Yoruba mastery and her shared words has root via Ifaodu corpus while the learners can't defend how the root words came to be in their lexicon. This is the reason everyone or group who claimed Afa or Fa etc could shy away from what Yoruba did by showcasing their own version of Ifaodu religion in United Nation World Heritage. If you doubt Yoruba language as the teacher's language, why did Coptic Christians language died in Egypt after the departure of the speakers? Even scantly speakers of it are not found except as a litturgy. Funnily, the ancient Coptic Christian language shared same cognates through reconstructed form of proto language with the present day Yoruba language speakers. 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Did Fela Also Bleach His Skin? by Olu317(m): 11:10pm On Nov 18, 2019 |
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| Culture › Re: Yoruba Origin, History and Canaanland connection. by Olu317(m): 4:49pm On Nov 18, 2019*. Modified: 4:47pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
mandarin:Yes you are right about the name ẹ́lú- ẹ́ -dú -mà -rẹ́ as being the correct form even if both mean the same. Although there are : 1. àlẹ́ or ẹ́lẹ́ Meaning: mighty/almighty/strong/powerful Then here is the proper breakdown of ‘ẹ́lú- ẹ́ -dú -mà -rẹ́' 2. ẹ́lú Meaning: Lord ẹ́ Meaning: the/it dú Meaning: conduit/base/vessel/mystery void mà: Meaning:act/do/ rẹ́ :this 2. The Yoruba interchange ‘à'and ‘ẹ̀' at times which you can see from the above illustration. This is also found amongst the early ancient Hebrew's foundational alphabets. The aleph ' א‘ is the first letter of the Hebrew alephbet. This consonant is silent and pronounced ‘ah'/ ‘eh', though then ‘aleph' is written in the pictographs as ' א‘, al or el which is translated to mean,‘ mighty/strength/powerful'. During the early stage, all Hebrew's alphabets didn't have a diacritics called Nikkut dot, before gradual translation through research work though with some error to different languages such as Aramaic, Greek,Roman-Latin, English etc. So, this explain the reason ẹ̀bọrà‘m' ̀or àbọrà‘m could pass for Hebrew's e-b-r-m or a-b-r-m. Interestingly, Ora(brighten/shine/light/ in Yoruba is also evident in ancient Hebrew's as Or/Orah(light/shine/sun light. The beauty of this information is Ora was and still anciently used as a prefix or as suffix in Yoruba language ,even till forever. In the same manner or is synonym with ancient Hebrew's name. 3. ẹ́lẹ́dúa contraction of ẹ́lẹ́dúwa; mighty one with a just character,compassionate, loving, untainted personality without flaws. Shockingly, YHWH is actually the word ,Yoruba ancestors were calling. This name is another name of God. How do I know? : there is an alphabet called Yud. And this yud is a "y" as a consonant or an "i’ as a vowel. According to scholars,tge ‘y' is always used in the beginning of word if it is found. While the ‘i' is used in between. Note: It is important to emphasise, despite the fact that it is assumed that the Hebrew Semitic language is in extinction, which is I found that the language of the Semitic people is being spoken by Yoruba people in modern day Nigeria, which I found shocking too. Though there are argument amongst the western scholars on the identity of the Yoruba people which prompted heavy research being carried out on them being tagged as the most researched ethnic group in Subsahara Africa. And research is still being carried out on Yoruba people till today. It eeven went to another dimension when Yoruba Dna is always being separated from Bantu group because scientific evidence does not support Pygmy bloodline amongst Yoruba people and other discoveries that are yet to be released, despite over thousands of years of Yoruba in Africa. As far as the research world is concerned, the Yoruba people is a stand alone ethnic group in Africa and these historians as well as western geneticists understood Yoruba people more than Yoruba scholars do because these Yoruba scholars always want to pin Yoruba to west Africa or Africa as the base of origin. This is the reason Yoruba's claim as the foundational mankind can't pass beyond fallacy because evidence showed Berbers land of Morocco ,followed by Ethiopia and closely followed by Israel remain the order of the oldest place where humans fossil are found on earth. |
| Culture › Re: The Meaning Of Adelakun by Olu317(m): 1:19pm On Nov 17, 2019 |
nlPoster:I buttress my research on the personality about Jesus or Jesu(Yoruba) as it seems because you did mentioned Jesus. However, the previous information on Adelakun has been explained,in which I posited my family's link to the name i.e my patrilineal cousin who bears the name. While Others people have explained their views as well from Yoruba perspective on the name. Peradventure you remained unsatisfactory,then seek your view on field interviewing which is outside here. |
| Culture › Re: The Meaning Of Adelakun by Olu317(m): 12:04pm On Nov 17, 2019 |
Interestingly, the Hebrew's pictographs pointed to the name as ‘Yeshua' in its full dimensional angle despite the fact that this root and its derivatives occur 353 times in the Old Testament. ‘HAW Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament notes that deliverance indicates a movement from distress to safety, and generally must come from some somewhere outside the party oppressed'. As far as the meaning of the name is concerned, it is associated with a personality who protect,who delivers people of infirmities, one who fight a just cause for people, one who's the entrance or guard of heaven that allow access to heaven through consultation with God the ‘savior,'/salvation of mankind .This name is bore by a human agent who is the act of delivering people from any kind of earthly oppression, to God and man's deliverance from evil. The feminine noun ישועה (yeshua), which the meaning is salvation (Genesis 49:18, 2 Samuel 10:11). This name is known as Yeshua Adamo Orisa, whose identity became contracted to Esu whose duty is the same as the ancient Hebrew. But today, that set of Bishop Ajai Crowther demonized Esu and claimed Jesu in Yoruba language as the name of this personality. As I read through some information, I discovered that the difference between these two identity amongst the 18th century by English Yoruba Christians orientation's submition is that of ‘J',which is actually false these people have no knowledge of Yoruba ancestors mode of worship. In fact, it is easy for Yoruba christians to call God as Eleda, Elemi, oyigiyigi,Eleri ipin, Eledumare,Aterere etc which is the name given to traditional creator of mankind known as ‘Ela' both in Yoruba and Hebrews ‘Ella', and these Yoruba Christians claimed in 18th century that Yoruba worship wrong God because of shebo( do ritual) which is also did in the same Bible we have knowledge on . My question is, Who is ignorant of some form of the truth? Today, Eshu is demonized by many Yoruba Christians yet Yoruba people haven't been shortchanged for being the group witj the highest twin birth. And behind these twin birth,their panegyric still stand forever while Eshu is their protection against all form evil. This is the beauty of Yoruba people and tradition. |
| Culture › Re: The Meaning Of Adelakun by Olu317(m): 6:42pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
Ose is a river's in Yoruba land and Mu ose/ Muse is an ancient name amongst the Yoruba people which was and is still associated to water. Interestingly, the name actually fall within both the Yoruba and the definition adduced to the meaning from the classic Semitic language, which its meaning is ‘drawn from water'. So, it is not surprising that many ancient names are lost in Yoruba lexicons just as the modern day Yoruba people have demonized Yeshua/Esu through condemnation by Yoruba Christians. Infact, Yoruba did bore name associated to Ora either as prefixed or suffice in the past but not anymore in modern day Yoruba Land. This is reason I am confident about the |
| Culture › Re: The Meaning Of Adelakun by Olu317(m): 4:38pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
baby124:Wow ! This is quite interesting if one consider the pattern of spoken dialects of Yoruba people. However, If you are a good speaker of your dialect, then you should be able to explain the different form of ‘ la' in awori that you are familiar with. Though I am familiar with the fact that ‘la' means go forth in awori dialect which mean is just a form of lo in some other Yoruba dialects. So, this word ‘la' has many thing that has to be success, light or thrust forth in Yoruba language. |
| Culture › Re: The Meaning Of Adelakun by Olu317(m): 2:19pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
baby124:Awesome input though K‘un'le is not ‘addition' in this regard but ‘full', ‘filled up' or ‘plenteous'. ‘La' is a stand alone in Yoruba lexicon because it is a foundational word in Yoruba language. La has to do with everything that goes into creation and all successful things or movement to another direction. So, Yoruba traditional or older dialects are more standard or robust than Oyo and her other related spoken modern dialects that can be found. Thus, ‘Ni' can stand for ‘li' as far as I have understood Yoruba language. Even if you claim that ‘La' can stand for ‘Ni' which I am looking forward to learn the group or clan among the Yoruba that used such word. It is a known truth that Yoruba language is a continuum and do develop alongside contact with new group speakers which could make Yoruba language have dual spoken language i.e indigenous and loaned lexicons. This can easily be interchangeable within the speakers community. The beauty of yoruba language is that the Yoruba language developed through thousands of years via ifaodu oral memorising after the loss and death of the ancient Yoruba ancestors who mastered writing form that were seen as occultic means in the ancient times . So,it is new if one switch from one owns major language or dialect with the input with a loaned secondary language which are evident through contact with non speakers of Yoruba language. This is reason Yoruba could be spoken with input with newer contact though Ifaodu is Yoruba's teachers language,which survived thousands of years. |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Origin, History and Canaanland connection. by Olu317(m): 6:19am On Nov 16, 2019 |
MetaPhysical:Quite shocking! I didn't notice the word Yorubas, Eurubas, Eurobas, Europas, Yurobas, Urobas, Yourrubas(as the land of immortals... when I watched this movie. Can you remember the exact the scene where ‘Leonidas' say so? I want to review it. What this could mean is that there were people of Yoruba ancestors who were part of the kingdom of Greece either before or during the era Greek invaded the Near East through Alexander (the great ). This is quite astonishing. |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Origin, History and Canaanland connection. by Olu317(m): 5:44am On Nov 16, 2019 |
mandarin:You see, the Ifaodu & Ephod is the same thing though the interpreters of the classic Hebrew are also with their own flaws whixh cannot be overlooked because the language is said to be in extinction which is also false. If Classic Hebrew is in extinction, how do they now translated the ones that they were able to ? The point here is that many prominent Yoruba scholars( Professors/Ph.D, Maven etc ) are the problems with their concluded postulations because of doubt and assumption that Yoruba people of today are dark skin people and supposed to be from Africa whose offsprings are now in settlement in present day Nigeria and her environment in a nearly 98% homogeneous closely related settlement pattern. Something of interest is that the language of Yoruba seemingly found in Arabic are thought to be loaned or shared between these two group,which was once raised by Al Ilori. While Arabic and Ancient Hebrew shared some lexicons too which showed the reality about the identity of the Yoruba's ancestors and their language that was brought to Africa and through th deep forested West Africa because Ancient Hebrew shared more Strong linguistics relationship with Yoruba more than it shares with Arabic . The fact on ground according to oral narration and document presented by Sultan Bello in the early 18th century pointed at Yoruba as a people of ‘Khanan'. Shockingly as it is, Khanan is the same as kana and it meaning(same thing/same). Conton and Dierk Lange agreed to the fact that the Yoruba lifestyle pattern or mode of ritual practise are of the lost tribe of Israel . Indeed, there are so many words that are used daily which are of Middle/Near East origin found in both Arabic and Semitic Hebrew and the Semitic Hebrew is more evidently seen in Yoruba language which ought to be basis for all these Yoruba historians to move backward into pre 1200AD as to see the pattern employed by ancient Yorubas who were so unique in Africa because the Art work , Tradition, language of Yoruba etc which are closer to ancient Classic Hebrew, that are found in the scrolls taken away as war spoils when these invaders destroyed the first and the second Temple in Israel. It is of a fact that the ancient Hebrew language through interpretation by European/English interpreters showed thus far that Yoruba language is the biblical narrative of the chosen people of God. History has it that, 1604-1611, the Bible was translated to English through Middle Age Hebrew scroll and Greek interpretation to English language. The Book Bible is basically about self teaching or teaching moral to one's child, or morally upright which the Ancient Hebrew called ‘Torah' according to the Semitic writing in pictographs. This word is accurately fit into same meaning with Yoruba's word ‘Tora'/Tòr(Tò) for teaching/training/instruction to be morally upright. On the name you pointed out as Olokun is a corrupted way of the name pronunciation because Yoruba of Oyo is the group which use the word O instead Èlúkun which is the actual name pronunciation before the drifting away by Oyo speakers. There are challenges to these drift which make the Yoruba language to dwell between the ancient( rural dwellers who speak the older dialect) and the modern speakers.Challenge as these rewriting the true identity of Yoruba is very important, since there are names whose footprint had been forgotten through time but still in memory of the elders of the Yoruba society via oral. Such name as Èbòrá which is equivalent to Biblical A-b-r-m or E-b-r-m. The same goes for Aroní( a mystical man in ancient Yoruba folklore) and the equivalent in Classic Hebrew. A more pronounced Ogun(,king of war/mighty man of valour) and the Classic Hebrew Og(warrior king/mighty man of war). As far as I have seen, there are narrative that became muddled up with Ela; God, the creator who was the one who taught the ancient ancestors of the Yoruba on how to connect with him because some account claimed Agboniregun was the principal man who taught the world Ifaodu when in fact, IfaOdu is to draw out information from vessel or conduit the ‘base' or foundation of life( Aiye or Iye). This among other reasons I tend to suspect some later IfaoduYoruba priests who out of self interest tried so much to infuse Odua and Obatiseala into the cosmetic myth of creation which ought not be so because these two men died while Ela has no beginning nor end. This is the reason Ela is the one we worship in the morning when we pray which is traditionally called ‘bori' and Christian as well as Muslim know as prayer to God. Interestingly, Allah is Muslim name for God. Ella is ancient Hebrews name for God and the same Ela is ancient and still serve as modern name for God. Another misleading information about the Yoruba is the Opa Oranmyian which was claimed to be a waking stick of the man. This information is nothing but fallacy as far as I have seen and read the inscriptions through the classic Semitic/pictographs/hieroglyphs language on it which is not about a walking stick but show that the inscriptions are information about a migrants Race that their descendants of today's people need to know where their original ancestors came from and their strength as a people of God. |
| Culture › Re: The Meaning Of Adelakun by Olu317(m): 3:55am On Nov 16, 2019 |
There are other form of this word and it different meaning,which make the Yoruba lexicons as being patterned in the like of English language etc. Thus,here are other meaning to this word with diacritics which determine it function. Kun √ : growth or full to brim Kun √ : hum Kun √ : to aid Kun √ : murmur |
| Culture › Re: The Meaning Of Adelakun by Olu317(m): 9:45pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
baby124:I don't want to contest the purported meaning of the name through your opinion though you have a point to your interpretation. However, I have a patrilineal cousin who bears the name. And the name which prefix with Ade are basically of kingly lineage name from inception. It is important to understand that the perspective of my understanding the name as being veered from ‘addition to crown' is that this doesn't make a sense if one considered the purpose of name bearing amongst the Yoruba's which is different from many other ethnicity. Names amongst Yorubas in the ancient times are borne according to status in the society even if a child is born mysteriously. And there are names borne among the general Yoruba community while some names are restricted among the noble or Kings family's descendants. For instance, there are people who don't bear or use ‘oba' as a prefix or suffix for their names, despite the fact that in such panegyric ‘oba' is part of it . So , Kùn cannot be seen as addition because, Ade o la o Kùn/Ade la kùn( ta kun ta kun) is what became contracted to Àdèlákùn,which does make more sense with such name as being given to show that there is strength in having kingly lineage. |
| Culture › Re: R--B--. A Cult Of The Sustainer, The Nourisher Of Mankind. by Olu317(m): 9:34am On Nov 15, 2019*. Modified: 3:29pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
Shocking to note that imperialYoruba was banned for six months. Any way, I hope these moderators will be fair to all,irrespective of ethnic background or opinion. |
| Culture › Re: Unanswered Questions On Yoruba's Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:24am On Nov 15, 2019 |
Ardar:lol! Ignorance is your name. Kindly go ask what is the pictographs on Opa Oranmiyan's obelisk? Go study jaare |
| Culture › Re: The Meaning Of Adelakun by Olu317(m): 9:10am On Nov 15, 2019*. Modified: 12:42am On Nov 20, 2019 |
Adelakun The name is descriptive as any other name in Yoruba lexicon. The name is associated with kingly lineage and it is referring to a peculiar son born into that lineage. He is bequeathed become a memberto the crown's family's lineage. Although the meaning can be translated in different ways though it can be broken down as: Ade: Crown,that which covers, we arrived La: go forth,breakforth,shine,light,successful Kun:to become a member, salutation, strength,power,full,filled,addition Adelakun The crown goes forth with value and strength; the name is just referring to a child who is believed to be a prospective powerful being. 2 Likes |
| Politics › Re: About The Name ‘Yoruba’. By Prof. Stephen Akintoye. by Olu317(m): 7:53am On Nov 05, 2019*. Modified: 8:11am On Nov 05, 2019 |
ledamaster:Sir, you don't need to be angry over whoever postulated such definition! After all, there are minor Hausa settlers ,Ibos, Edos, Tapa, Efik and Ibibio, Fulanis, Gambari, Kanuris etc among Yoruba people. Intermarriages can always bring loaned words into a language. In fact, loaned words are in all world's language. So, it is not a big deal if such words is yorubanized into her lexicon. I know Sikiriu Ayinde Barrsiter of blessed memory even used it as a way by Yorubas in his song to identify Arabs though I also remembered Yorubas do call Arabs as Arabo. Even in another song of Sikiru Ayinde Barrister he define Yoruba through the usage of morphemes the root word ‘Yoruba' is trilateral; Y R B. Interestingly, the Yoruba language is descriptive in nature which you and I can understand it if out genuineness, you and I observe and listen to some animals voice or sound to understanding the deeper knowledge of ancient Yoruba ancestors on how the Yoruba language developed . For samples: dog gbo/bo/hón cat family han/hón fowl,&cork kó snake sinto éiyé/éyé ké/kó male goat orú kó/ o bú kó female goat è wú iré etc. The point I am making language can either false or true cognate and that is that words can either be shared amongst people through loaned as found in world's language. Hausa language is been fashioned to be linked to Arab's Qur'an while Yoruba have people who speaks a language slightly linked to Quran and heavily linked to Ancient Hebrew and a minor of it linked to Bantu language. Furthermore, all English speaking nations have loaned words added to English language outside this franca lingual. Yhere are some trees that are not found in Europe which are of Africa's origin and these trees are called the names of African origin's name. Lastly, you can share your own etymology of this word if you have idea.After all,we are all here to learn. 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: About The Name ‘Yoruba’. By Prof. Stephen Akintoye. by Olu317(m): 7:26am On Nov 05, 2019 |
bluke:In 1948 project was a gradual thing to airlift people to Israel after the genocide and no one on this planet earth even the Light skin Hebrew are of Caucasian breed in Europe ever denied their link to dark skin Caucasians Hebrew in Africa. Infact, pictograph support this information in the same way it supported the identity of the black Africans who built Egypt. Thereafter the Hebrews keep funding projects in the world to find the lost Hebrew groups out despite the disconnection of over 4000± . This the reason I would not support the Egyptians hypocrisy because the Israelis kept looking for the ‘PECUIAR' Hebrews who disappeared in the belt of Sudan into the thick forested area,over long period of time which kept bringing back to Africa through the Israelis sponsored projects to seek out the real Hebrews in Africa. It was even at recent time that they came to Nigeria to verify the Ibos who claimed the identity of ancient Hebrews though this claim could not be substantiated which made them not accept what was seen in places they have visited in Ibo land. As regarding airlift of some of the people found in Africa who claimed Hebrews are the Falasas,Sudanese Jews that I can testify to as dark skin Hebrews who were airlifted to present day Israel. So,the Egyptians government's spokesman isnt correct because even in Egypt, they almost wiped out dark skin Egyptians if not archeological evidence. In present day Egypt's school curriculum doesn't fill it up with strong recognition of the dark skin Egyptians before Islam destroyed this land with their religion through subjugation. The earlier conqueror were Roman Catholic group whom were called Coptic Christians and these people didn't wiped out the history of Egyptians until the land was lost to the Islamic groups which made the last group of Yoruba left Egypt. If you are in doubt,kindly verify the Coptic Christian language of the Old Egyptians and see if these people aren't Yoruba language speakers. It is indeed shocking when I did a research on it . |
| Culture › Re: 50 Years Of TV: Yoruba Group Asks FG To Return Valuables Worth 1billion Dollars by Olu317(m): 3:29pm On Nov 04, 2019 |
Barcarysam:It is Yoruba's right to even demand more than 1billion Dollsrs. I support this course 100% wholeheartedly. |
| Culture › Re: What Is The Yoruba Word For "Oak Tree" by Olu317(m): 3:23pm On Nov 04, 2019 |
grandeur2017:àpádo or igi oakú |
| Culture › Re: 30 Things You Should Know About Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther by Olu317(m): 12:52pm On Nov 04, 2019 |
LifeQuest:You don't need to agreew with me. Though, you can endure for some years till my book is on the stall and other places for your perusal. After all, 1604-1611 , King James of England,out of zealousness,employed some people to understudy the Classic Hebrew language through the precept knowledge in Greek,Roman, Latin to English transliteration and Phonetic spellings as well as generated cognate meaning. And all citations you demanded will be found in my book at this right time of publication. In the meantime, you can verify all I have posited on this platform anywhere in the world. Cheers. |
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