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To make the statement "Alhaji will not allow the price fall because he wants to retain his Forbes ranking.....Even when it is glaring that the NS/DS price is falling rapidly" evidence-based rather than blind hopefulness, several things would be required: 1. Factual evidence that "Alhaji" has the power and mechanisms to directly influence or control the price of the assets in question (NS/DS). 2. Clear documentation or public statements from "Alhaji" explicitly stating that retaining their Forbes ranking is a top priority that would motivate actions to support the asset's price. 3. Data showing "Alhaji's" past actions successfully arresting price declines of this asset (or other assets) when their wealth rankings were at risk. 4. Analysis of "Alhaji's" current net worth position and how preventing this particular asset's price fall is critical to maintaining their Forbes ranking. 5. Information on the specific strategies, financial resources, and legal means "Alhaji" could employ to prop up the price despite market forces. Similarly, to make the hypothesis "The Brewery industry did not rally upwards in 2023, when compared to other sectors on the NGX.....So it is already down and needs fear no fall" evidence-based, the following would be required: 1. Factual market data showing the performance of the Brewery industry stocks/sector on the NGX (Nigerian Stock Exchange) in 2023 compared to other sectors. 2. Analysis and quantification of how much the Brewery sector underperformed or "did not rally upwards" relative to the other sectors. 3. Research on the typical behavior and patterns of sectors/industries that have underperformed the broader market in a given year. Do they tend to continue underperforming or recover in subsequent years? 4. Fundamental analysis of the Brewery companies to assess if their current stock prices/valuations already reflect the underperformance in 2023. In other words, are they now "already down"? 5. Examination of the overall economic factors, consumer trends, competitive landscape etc. that could impact the Brewery sector's prospects going forward. 6. Study of historical cases where underperforming sectors saw either a continuation of negative returns or a rebound/recovery. |
222Martins:I understand your logic that we have "well-reasoned speculation" (informed, logically-derived forecasting) and "blind hopefulness" (baseless wishful thinking). The problem is that you are not doing any better. Read these two statements carefully: "Alhaji will not allow the price fall because he wants to retain his Forbes ranking.....Even when it is glaring that the NS/DS price is falling rapidly" and "The Brewery industry did not rally upwards in 2023, when compared to other sectors on the NGX.....So it is already down and needs fear no fall." They both belong to the same category... |
yMcy56:Which one be hopeville again, LOL, you maa no gree for anybody, dey follow them bumper to bumper. Like play 2 pages don go down. ![]() |
222Martins:Why don't you take the time to look up the meaning of hope in the dictionary? I don't blame you for not understanding the word. Out of the four reasons you gave, only number one is factual (though I haven't confirmed this); the rest are based on hope. Reason 2: "The Brewery industry did not rally upwards in 2023, when compared to other sectors on the NGX.....So it is already down and needs fear no fall." This reason assumes that because the industry did not rally in 2023, it is less likely to fall further. This is more of a hopeful assumption rather than a fact-based analysis. Reason 3: A possible buyout from Raysun: While Raysun's past acquisitions are a positive indicator, there's no guarantee they'll target ChampBrew. This reason relies on the hope that a buyout will happen. Reason 4: Possible turnaround of the company: This reason hinges on the company improving its performance, which is uncertain. You're hoping that ChampBrew's dominance in its region will translate to a turnaround. ![]() |
KayOn1:Loco come and see. I know he will provide more justifications for buying Champion Breweries' shares, let's hear them though. ![]()
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alezzy13:I received 190,674 naira for one million naira invested at FirstBank for 364 days, which I think amounts to approximately 19% interest rate. Although I saw the official rate advertised as 20.7%, they must have deducted tax and other costs. It has been a long time since I last invested in treasury bills. ![]() |
Does Monkey Go to School ? @nnadengram ![]() Dengram we sing to you Lux fiat Dengram we bring to you Faith untold You challenge and inspire Your hope is our desire We sing to you Our Alma mater Lux fiat!
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They key points of the DS announcement: *Previously Announced Merger: On July 31, 2023, DSR announced a proposed merger with NASCON and DRL through a "Scheme of Merger." *Merger on Hold: The announcement states that the merging entities have agreed to suspend the merger "for the time being." *Reason for Suspension: The Securities & Exchange Commission's (SEC) recommendation regarding the status of Dangote Rice Limited (DRL) is cited as the reason for the suspension. The nature of the SEC's recommendation is not specified. *Future Communication: The announcement assures the investing public and regulators that further information will be provided "in due course." This is where reading between the lines comes in. For those who bought in at 60 naira or higher, Pa Ema, myself, and a few others were advocating for this stock way back when it was at 18, 23, and so on. The key is to act sooner, not wait until a stock has already risen 50% before jumping on board. |
222Martins:What the heck are you saying, my friend? What is the certainty in that champion brewery that you have been parading here? You see hope that the price may go up if XYZ happens, the same way people in DS/NS saw hope when they heard about the merger. If you claim that the merger would not have sent DS/NS flying upward, then I don't think you are a good investor either. Now, the merger is on pause, not canceled, pending when the issues holding it back get cleared. I understand Dangote is quite busy with his refinery, which is why he hasn't pushed this one further. I can assure you that I haven't seen a project of this magnitude abandoned by Dangote; the rice mill will come, as he has invested quite a lot. The merger will happen; it is not a matter of hope, it is a matter of when. So, don't talk as if you know what the market will do next, besides hoping that your permutation is right. If you were a pro, we would know... |
yMcy56:He shock me too. It goes a long way to show that Streetinvestor is an impartial kind of guy that say things as he see them. While the Loco guy nah agenda kind of person way they always comment base on him own personal target, very MH kind of person. Make una dey follow am with caution o, he fit put una for wahala, atikpoju ooo, wani ka abasi ooo ... ![]() |
Locotrader:Funny question you're asking, what is the worst thing that will happen to you tomorrow? You'd better sell your Champion now and invest it in DS. Forget the brouhaha that is going on now, Dangote Foods will come, and we will see #180 and above. Worst case, Dangote will throw in his pasta and tomato paste to sweeten the deal. I am trying to sell some of what I bought higher to buy again lower. I have seen the structures Dangote has put in place for rice production and milling, and I know he doesn't do things halfway; he is not a slacker from what I see and will follow this through. |
What does Mcy56 call it again, a cross deal? I am ready to cross deal at 35 naira right now. Is anybody interested? |
Adinije make una allow me move at the top of the line, I no dey feel fine o. ![]() |
Allow me to dump my tachere units. ![]() Bikonu, Biko oooh. ![]()
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All of you dat are dumping, who do you think will buy it now eh? ![]()
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222Martins:Words like "a stock will be pumped by the company" is also a myth I often see here. The other day, someone they call streetinvestor said that banks would pump their stocks before public offerings, LOL. |
ositadima1:Na joke o. ![]() |
Locotrader:Make I use small way remain step down, I know say loan sharks will come for me soon, it is finished... ![]()
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DeRuggedProf:Tomorrow fit red sha ![]() |
Streetinvestor2:Look at the date on the thread - 2022. What about the Dangote combo pack that was sold on Jumia a few years back? And then the 80,000 bags of 10kg Dangote rice that were shared with Nigerians (I didn't receive any, ). All indications suggest that it came from his mills.
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Streetinvestor2:https://www.nairaland.com/6968034/pictures-dangote-rice-mills-jigawa |
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Mindlog:First, you can only exchange bacteria and viruses with people through body contact. I suspect you already do that to some extent when you shake hands or collect things from other people, then eat without washing your hands. Secondly, not everyone shares your beliefs. What if I told you that the book you are trying to quote is just a book and holds no power beyond it being a book with stories in it? ![]() |
pretydiva:Who do you blame: the supplier or the customer? Before you answer, consider this with me: Why are drug suppliers bursted all over the world, but not the users? Last bullet, how can an addict or someone with weak willpower resist using a product that's cheap, readily available, and comes in various flavors? ![]() |
Zagee:It's as if they are looking towards foreign investments. I think that may be reasonable, because the 500 billion to be raised was likely due to having subsidiaries outside Nigeria. I don't really know what I'm talking about, so don't take me too seriously. |
BabsO2:When interest rates are at 20% elsewhere, coupled with the news of an impending dilution of shareholders' equity, a return of 11.25% may not be considered very attractive. ![]() |
Streetinvestor2:That is your own interpretation after adding your own salt and pepper to it. ![]() |
robobo:I think he is saying that they will not sell above the prevailing market price at the time. But that is to be expected. ![]() |
awesomeJ:Is short-selling even possible within the Nigerian financial space? Are there brokers willing to lend stocks to their customers for the purpose of short-selling? This is an interesting proposition to consider. |
iHaveMadeiT2:"Waiting helps you as an investor and a lot of people just can't stand to wait. If you didn't get the deferred-gratification gene, you've got to work very hard to overcome that." - Charlie Munger. ![]() "The stock market is a device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient." - Warren Buffett. I am confused o... "The market does not care about your opinion. It only cares about supply and demand." - Jesse Livermore. "By the time you figure out which way the wind is blowing, you'll be standing in the rain." - Unknown. Which path should you follow? It appears that whichever path you choose, there is a 'Master' who supports such actions. Very Bad. ![]() |
chipa:The second part of your post is interesting. Though I don't understand the meaning of "pumping" yet, it is often mentioned here. As for the first part, I have already considered that the trading gains and other operating income may be used to generate income. That is why I only deducted 300 billion from the total 808 billion (566.9 billion in "trading gains" and 242.5 billion in "other operating income" . |
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