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^^^^ I experience small of the goodie goodie yesterday. Freeway driving. Benin to Lagos!! My Oga in Lagos is still trying to complete 52km Lekki Epe after 10 years! |
[quote author=Gbawe.]Indeed. Lagos, since the days of the much emptily maligned Tinubu, has always had grand masterplans and ideas to develop the State optimally into the efficient megacity the likes of London, New York and Paris are. The Seaport and Airport are part of the Lekki masterplan conceived by Lagos State and nothing to do with the FG. Simple as that. The Lagos Free trade zone (LFTZ) was exclusively conceived by the state Government. The idea of Free trade zones itself is not new. It is more about how Lagos , with it strategic location, realized that the Sea port will help overcome the haulage and logistic challenges that other ill-conceived free trade zones eventually succumb to. Lagos sold the idea to the FG and this is why an MOU, memorandum of understanding, was signed between the FG and Lagos State over the Seaport Project. The FG wants ports decongestion. Naturally this sounded good and they had to give approval and become involved in a supervisory role because the port will handle international haulage. Left to its own devices, the FG will never help Lagos while its focus remains exclusively on making Abuja a comfortable zone for Politicians and their minions. The culture of giving credit where due is alien to many here and it is not unusual to see downright mischief, with a heavy dose of ignorance, as displayed by the shameless Papabrowne. I think you will certainly understand why some can never give credit where due when certain States or individuals are concerned. http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/pagelinks.php?p=19[/quote]You see, I totally agree with you. Lagos is a place of Grand masterplans!! The sad reality however is that it's been 14 years and nearly $50 Billion since Tinubu and Fashola started telling us about these grand masterplans and none, I repeat none of these projects have come anywhere near completion. How can a state like Lagos talk about paucity of funds? What are other states suppose to say? We have a good number of mini road rehabilitation(I repeat mini)in a lot of places but I can bet you, their value is not anywhere near 1 Billion dollars in all. So what happened to the over $50 billion budgeted by the state over the years. How come these monies were not used to execute these Grand Masterplans. Fashola's Budgetary allocation for six years is close to $30 Billion and yet I cannot see one single project in the entire state worth above a 100 million dollars that has been completed. Not one. The only one nearing completion is the Lekki Ikoyi Bridge which will be tolled. Name one please, if I'm wrong. Interestingly, we are here talking about a project that is still on paper after 5 years of inception and I'm supposed to be excited when the most villified Governor(Uduaghan) in the country didn't leave his own on paper, he actually brought it to fruition. Lets face the facts here. Fashola is an excellent Governor but his hands are totally tied by Tinubu's Grand Power ambitions. Tinubu never complains of funds when executing a project for himself. Ikeja Mall was built on schedule. Oriental II never stopped construction. The dredging of Eko Atlantic "Estate" continues. Infact the money wasted on the purchase of planes for the moribund First Nation Airways would have comfortably kick started the Airport Construction. No new BRT lanes six years after! The 52km Lekki Epe Expressway has taken 10 years and stays incomplete. Light Rail project: Less than 30% completion. Fourth Mainland Bridge: Mirage! Lekki FTZ/Seaport/Airport: Paper I saw schools Amaechi built in Rivers state the other day and I wondered at Fashola- he has totally ignored education in the state. Same with healthcare. Same with Still I think Fashola is a great performer. He has laid a solid foundation for Lagos state by building institutions and systems that would outlive generations and he has established certain standards that no new Lagos State Governor would have the courage to fall below. I respect him wella but must ask him the real questions. And I like his answer. Paucity of funds. And that points straight in the direction of Tinubu. Free Fashola from Tinubu and all these projects would have been commissioned before 2011. |
[quote author=Akanbi_edu]All hail internet-empowered papabrowne. You people no go kill pesin walahi.[/quote]The man answered me naaaa. And I am satisfied with his answer. Paucity of Funds. Tinubu has taken all of the money. I totally understand. |
Ok, this is one reason I like Fashola. The MAN IS A LISTENER. He answered my questions. A few weeks ago, I asked his supporters here on Nairaland what has happened to all his dream projects. They couldn't answer, so they took it back to him. And he has replied sufficiently. I am very satisfied with the answer. Paucity of Funds. So my next question is this: Why is it so easy for Tinubu to raise funds to complete his projects(Ikeja Mall, Oriental Hotel 2 and the others) than it is for Lagos State to raise funds for projects that would benefit the generality of Lagosians. Fashola is amongst the top three performing Governors in Nigeria and I will continue to respect and praise him. However, he should explain why Lagos would complain of paucity of funds and still have zero major completed projects since 2007 despite budgetary provisions of over $25 Billion dollars in the last 6 years! My post on the 8th of March 2013, ![]() Papabrowne:And please, I was asking on another thread why Fashola has failed to complete any major project in the 6 years since he became Governor. Even bad Governors like Uduaghan can boast of a completed airport. 6 years after, no new BRT lanes. 6 years after, the phase one of the light rail is less than 20% complete. 6 years after Lagos-Badagry Expressway- less than 10% complete. Lekki Epe Expressway(52km) is taking 10 years already. Lekki Free Trade Zone is empty. We used to hear of deep sea port and one airport like that they want to build in Lekki--- all of them na inside paper them dey! 6 years and $30 Billion after??https://www.nairaland.com/1218527/benin-airport-commissioning-tomorrow#14653907 |
jereal: actually he was supposed to have asked me what transport company I'd have preferred the package to be sent through, that was the arrangement...ABC transport would have been my pick cos they run a courier service & virtually everyone use their services...You think he really did that or you are giving him the benefit of doubt? Whilst I wouldn't wanna accuse him falsely, reading through his explanations and your submissions, I think the product never left Lagos. |
nigerwide08: @oduz, pls what the guy is saying is wrong, i sold this dual core tower system to this guy for 7k and he sent 5k to my acct, said a week after, the balance will be paid dat i should send the system to him in Jos and i did dat that second day. And also send the driver's detail to him, But to my surprice, this guy claimed he has not getting the system, actualy, wen i call the driver, he apologize and said he had a problem dat they took his bus to station, dat he will take the system and deliver it, but they don't have to be trusted like dat, becos i had such a experience last year. A guy collected my laptop and refused to give me my money. But i know i will get the driver by Gods grace. Pls let me know when u are back sir. Thank.Integrity issues!! Nobody does business or reposes confidence with people that have issues of integrity! I knew from the on set that you have integrity issues. You might not exactly be a scammer, but your integrity is not on point. |
GraceBestowed: [color=#CD3700] I hope they don't dish out to them the death penalty. There are places where career criminals should be careful, and turn a new leaf, Malaysia is one of such places. [/color]While I dont exactly support the death penalty, I dont get why you have sympathy for Criminals. Career Criminals should be careful so they don't be punished?? Let them be busted, after serving time they can turn a new leaf! |
Our Yansh: Well said Mr. Fashola, Lagosians shouldn't allow The Aso-Rock scumbag and his Boko Haram brothers infiltrate Lagos State..But Tinubu is already liaising with Boko Haram on how they can come over to Lagos and have a party after which he will help them secure amnesty. I thought he traveled to meet their leader in Katsina the other day? |
^^^^^ On point!!! |
ayox2003: Peter Drucker was advocating for a knowledge based economy in countries that have already done the basics. These countries already have industries, infrastructure and great service delivery. Drucker also canvassed for knowledge workers. Yes, we can adopt the knowledge based economy but the foundation must be laid. They include agriculture, education, infrastructure, manufacturing and production. Without these basics, nothing can be done. Plus, knowledge comes from expertise and expertise comes from experience. Without a real-life experience, what knowledge have we to offer? That's why we need these industries to create experts who would sell their knowledge.I totally agree with you that the foundation must be laid. However, My take is that information has been democratised and the use of knowledge has been made accessible to all with the advent of the internet. Now I ask you, has india done the basics?? If you check the records, you'll find that Africa is actually in a very similar place with India. But how come India is pretty much taking advantage of the Knowledge sectors? Why is India able to attract 500 million dollars in healthcare costs from Nigeria and the better countries like USA ARE NOT? How come India is exporting more in software to Europe and America than say Japan or germany which are economies with better basics than India? How come India's bollywood makes more money globally than France's film industry despite France having a better go at the basics? The next google could be founded by anybody in any dorm room anywhere on the planet. Nigeria can actually focus on creating knowledge solutions tailored to emerging markets...solutions that make life easier for those at the base of the pyramid. That group is 3 billion in number and are a 6 trillion dollar economy with impressive growth potentials. |
Pukkah: Focus on knowledge economy alone cannot make a country become developed.If your goal is to manufacture for your own population that's fine. You can use tariffs and the like to ward off competition. However if you are competing in the global economy, the factors of industrialization does not favour us. Gbawe gavce a good example and talked about consumer electronics. Truth is whether you like it or not, we are not going to produce better and cheaper TVs than Samsung in the next 20 years. However, we might be able to supply the world with good quality chocolates and while that could pass for manufacturing it cannot be said to be industrialization. One of the most important components of industrialisation is the use of metals. Developing competence in that is alot of core engineering. Ever wonder the concept behind Chips made by Intel? Thats indutrailisation. |
Pukkah: I would classify banking/financial sector as services and they are measurable.This is where we have missed the point. I referred to Knowledge economy and not Service economy. They are two entirely different phenomena. These are definitions: KNOWLEDGE ECONOMY An economy in which growth is dependent on the quantity, quality, and accessibility of the information available, rather than the means of production. The knowledge economy is the use of knowledge technologies (such as knowledge engineering and knowledge management) to produce economic benefits as well as job creation. The phrase was popularized by Peter Drucker as the title of Chapter 12 in his book The Age of Discontinuity, And, with a footnote in the text, Drucker attributes the phrase to economist Fritz Machlup and its origins to the idea of "scientific management" developed by Frederick Winslow Taylor.[1] Other than the agricultural-intensive economies and labor-intensive economies, the global economy is in transition to a "knowledge economy," [2][3][4][5][6][7][8] as an extension of an "information society" in the Information Age. The transition requires that the rules and practices that determined success in the industrial economy need rewriting in an interconnected, globalized economy where knowledge resources such as know-how and expertise are as critical as other economic resources. SERVICE ECONOMY Service economy can refer to one or both of two recent economic developments: The increased importance of the service sector in industrialized economies. The current list of Fortune 500 companies contains more service companies and fewer manufacturers than in previous decades. The relative importance of service in a product offering. The service economy in developing countries is mostly concentrated in financial services, hospitality, retail, health, human services, information technology and education. Products today have a higher service component than in previous decades. In the management literature this is referred to as the servitization of products. Virtually every product today has a service component to it. INDUSTRIALIZATION Industrialisation (or industrialization) is the period of social and economic change that transforms a human group from an agrarian society into an industrial one. It is a part of a wider modernisation process, where social change and economic development are closely related with technological innovation, particularly with the development of large-scale energy and metallurgy production. It is the extensive organisation of an economy for the purpose of manufacturing.[2][b][/b] |
Gbawe: Thank you. Tell Nigerians to focus on improving themselves , as regards these disgraceful fundamental deficiencies, before touting themselves "the future kings of the world" and insults is all you will get from those, like the OP, who are too egotistical to see or accept reality.While I agree with many of your points I also think much of it has been tainted by your pessimism. And it is understandable as I have come to learn that one's exposure and experiences tend to define their outlook on issues of life. People who have pretty much a smooth run in much of what they do, naturally exhibit absolute optimism. Others on the other hand might usually have the struggle before the break, hence the pessimistic outlook. So I get it. Its the hour glass thing of half full or half empty. Africa is at the best stage it has ever been and various factors can be attributed to it. These include the Rise of Emerging Markets in Asia and their attendant demand for more resources. The simplified access to information as a result of the internet and mobile telephony. The economic downturn in much of the west and the attendant flow of capital both human and financial. The rise in the cost of food and the sudden realization that Africa possess by far the largest underutilized tracts of arable land. And growing optimism and can do spirit amongst the the young middle class private sector African! The last factor is the most critical in taking advantage of the others. Pessimist don't see opportunities until the optimists have taken all advantage. While you can beat on about how Government is failing to provide, others are thinking how they can make provision and reap benefits where governments have failed to provide. That is the new thinking that is pervading the African continent and this is where hope belies. I mix with people that are championing solutions in social entrepreneurship and I get inundated regularly with so much innovative energy that I wake up feeling even more optimist as the days pass. We should all seek to take advantage instead of waiting on the Lebanese, Americans, Europeans, Chinese and Indians. Three things would help us take that advantage and number one is Optimism. The second is Creative thinking. And the third is an eye for opportunity! |
Katsumoto: TrueYep! Considering that storing, processing and transporting produce do currently exist albeit inefficiently, my belief is that improving on these areas even minimally has the potential to to earn investors huge returns even in the face of decrepit infrastructure. Simple things like changing packing cases can save tonnes in potentially wasted produce. Ever wondered why we still transport tomatoes in woven baskets when Cartons are more efficient and much cheaper? 70% is usually wasted across the chain because of design factors. Truth is many areas have been left to the illiterate mind and that has stunted the growth of our better industries. Its time for creative thinkers to leave the oil industry alone and focus on creating solutions in sectors such as these that would give us enormous advantage. |
Katsumoto. Rockefeller Foundation has thrown open a pretty interesting challenge. Sadly it expires tonite at 12. I figure your knowledge might come in handy. Its about informal economies and creating solutions that would enhance the livelihoods of people at the base of the pyramid. If you've got time, use google to search for it and engage. There's a $100,000 grant for selected ideas. |
Katsumoto: HahahahahaI am a firm believer in Agriculture. I'm totally with you on this one. But my take is that improving the value chain is the biggest opportunity in the industry!! |
Katsumoto: You are right about a knowledge-based economy being the way to go but even for a knowledge-based economy, there are certain factors that must be present.You are absolutely correct. But I must add that these things are beginning to find their foot in Africa and yes Nigeria. Venture Capital looking towards Africa is in more abundant supply than there is companies meeting the criteria to assess them. Power supply I believe would get better with the privatization that has happened. Things appear to be looking up. However, let me tell you our advantage. The US might be better poised to deliver solutions for the developed world, but they dont understand the solutions required in informal economies existent in the developing world. The population at the base of the pyramid is enormous and that population is beginning to experience impressive economic growth. It is here our advantage lies. We should create solutions for the developing world that SILICON valley AND ALL OF San Francisco can never create. Mobile money a la M-PESA was created in Africa.It is a Kenyan creation that's spreading globally. Many of such are currently under development across Africa and given time they would begin to hit critical mass. But I totally agree with you. We need to scale up in the areas you mentioned or our opportunity would elude us. |
The first April fool joke that got me. Maybe because google does craZY STUFF! |
subterfuge: Look here imbesile Papabrowne!!!Constant cursing and bitterness.....a common characteristic of improper upbringing. Also a very common characteristic of those highly unintelligent. I am pretty confident now that there has to be a correlation between poor upbringing and eventual unintelligence or non intelligence whichever one suffices. |
[quote author=Omo_Tier1]Sorry dude what are you on about? What is a knowledge Revolution by the way? It is a fallacy that a consumer boom leads to an industrial boom. The world as it is well placed today knows just one word: EXPLOITATION. If you do not have the capacity to produce in your own house, someone will come sell you what you cannot produce and the truth is, you will end up paying more. No doubt there are industries in Nigeria, but they are no where near what Nigeria requires. Today, Nigeria can hardly boast of a small to medium companies who can design and manufacture products for Automotive, Aerospace, Railway, Health and Agricultural industries. That we still go to Asia to import Tractors, Harvesters, and Bolts and Nuts say it all. For Nigeria to truly develop, we need to start manufacturing the basic things we use and rely less on importation of bespoke components and equipment.[/quote]While I agree with you somewhat, you should realize that manufacturing is entirely different from an Industrial revolution. My take is that we don't exactly have adequate engineers to create an industrial revolution. The bedrock of industrialization is core engineering and to get the right kind of engineers, we need 20-30 years of qualitative training. Our goods can never be as competitive as those produced in say China with the kind of engineers we have produced over the last 20 years. As regards manufacturing, yes we would manufacture light goods, but we would have to buy the machines from the Asians,Europeans and Americans. True Industrialization which would see us build machines for manufacturing is predicated on a very reliable logistic system with technical design as key. We are not getting that anytime soon. Knowledge based economy is simpler. You sit down in one office and create a search engine based on the knowledge you have. The world loves it and gives you 50 Billion dollars every year.You employ 53,000 people. Thats Google. You create a social networking site from your dorm room that the world goes agog for. They pay you billions yearly. Thats facebook. You design a product thats beautiful and extremely functional. You give engineers in Taiwan to couple the product and produce millions for the world. You end up with valuation of $600 billion. Thats Apple. And thats the knowledge economy for you. The barriers are less compared to industrialization! |
Gbawe: To be honest, when they talk here I just imagine deluded folks who have not been out of their rooms for the past 20 years. It is like reading the misguided opinion, rehashed here daily, that Nigeria and other African Nation can be manufacturing and industrial world giants at this stage when some developed nation are not even chasing that route because it is not economically viable or even a moderately cost/time effective template for development.Hehe, you make me smile with regards to the sitting 20hrs without going anywhere. I attend conferences globally where the best of the best rile on about the new african dawn! Its in those conferences I learn that the average African doesnt seem to know that his time has come and the onus is on him to take advantage. You can stay pessimistic all you like, I'm an optimist and I believe immensely that our time for advantage has come. Sadly,because of your regular bias, you didn't read the thread and hence didnt realise that you have just corroborated my point and gone against Pukkah's point! Wish you can re-read the thread. My opinion is that it is foolhardy to try compete on Industrialization at this point. We don't have the engineers and it would take some good 20-30 years to train them by which point the world would have gone onto something else. Our strengths are in Agriculture and the extractive industry. Knowledge on the other hand is an area we can leapfrog on given the short time required to develop skills like coding. Building an industrial base is not a prerequisite anymore given the strength of globalisation! I stand to be corrected. The greatest cities in the world don't manufacture... |
0lumide: People are just plain stoopid and unsophisticated. Some even think revolution is not possible because of ethnic divides?Constant cursing and bitterness.....a common characteristic of improper upbringing. Also a very common characteristic of those highly unintelligent. I am pretty confident now that there has to be a correlation between poor upbringing and eventual unintelligence or non intelligence whichever one suffices. |
Depends on your area of expertise and the kind of returns you are seeking. I think the consumer market is currently the most impressive sector of the country as our large population and relation appetite for consumer goods actually equates to high turnovers. In no particluar order: FMCGs Food Related manufacturing Bulding Materials etc would give you very impressive returns on investment. |
[quote author=IGBO-SON]^^^PapaBrowne, you left out Enugu and Owerri airports; besides Lagos and Abuja, these 5 airports are the busiest in the country.[/quote]No Broda, I didnt. I said Lagos, Abuja and Port Harcourt are the busiest. Next on line is Warri, Benin then Asaba has just joined the list with this 3 fligths daily. Enugu airport comes after Benin. Then Calabar before Owerri. Enugu and Owerri have very Irregular traffic figures and I'm not sure why. Some months high, some moths low. The list is on FAAN website. You can check the figures yourself. I don't classify Lagos and Abuja part of the South West or North. They are both Federal Capital Territories. |
subterfuge: Papa browne: Your corrupt Oga at the Top has bought you cheap.Very unintelligent outlook on life!! Let me ask you a few questions and perhaps you will understand my perception on life. What is your contribution to you own sphere of influence. Lets start with Nairaland, what have you done to improve a bad situation you met?? Some people use this place as a meduim to pass knowledge to others. What have you done in your oiwn sphere of influence. Jonathan met power at 2000 MW. Thats what we've had since 1979. He has taken it up to 4500MW in just 2 years. He has privatized the sector and invested heavily in the completion of the NIPPs. If you think power supply is a one day job, then try building a house in one day and see the results. On the other hand, it might just be that you are an advocate of premature delivery. Go ask you elders what happens when a child is born before 9months of pregnancy. |
But seriously, my take in all this is the Benin/Asaba angle. Benin, Asaba and Warri Airports are all about a maximum of 120km from each other yet after Lagos, Abuja and Port Harcourt they experience the largest flight frequencies in the country. For Instance and this may surprise you: These three Airports record more passengers than the whole of Northern Nigeria and South West Nigeria combined. Leaves you wondering the true nature of Nigeria's geo-economic combinations. To think that some blind critics felt the Asaba Airport was a nonviable joke. Another thing: 12,000 passengers at an average ticket price of 20,000 Naira. A whooping 240 Million Naira daily sales!! Nigeria my country! |
Any revolution that starts in Nigeria would end up with Northerners killing Southerners and maybe reprisals! The real revolution we need is a revolution of the mind of the citizens. Any overthrow of government would result in the same kind of people getting back in power or probably worse. Afterall the people in power today were all members of the regular society yesterday. Once again I repeat, the real revolution we need is a revolution of the mind of we the citizens. -We need that guy who would rather buy a 300 million naira flat in Ikoyi to have mind revolution and consider using that money in scooping up large tracts of land and farming cocoa. -We need that guy who keeps waiting on government jobs to have a mind revolution and start thinking entrepreneurship. -We need that student who is planning to cheat his way into university to have a mind revolution and get on his books and understand his subjects.We also need that lecturer to stop selling handouts as a prerequisites to passing his course. -We need that fast food owner who keeps selling spoilt chicken to have mind revolution and start ensuring he serves the best to his customers. -And we need that bus driver to have a mind revolution and start treating his passengers with some level of respect. And the market woman too. And the Bricklayer and the Factory worker. -We need those nairaland e-tribalists to have a mind revolution and gain the understanding that in the real sense of it, there are no tribes, there are just languages and cultures. Its a mind revolution we need. And that revolution starts with you. Ask yourself, what can I do to improve my neighborhood and my country at large. Why is my house so scattered. Why haven't I painted my house in the last 15 years and yet I drink beer every day there is a premier league match? Why do I throw dirt on the streets when I can actually wait and put it in a dustbin? Why do I always falsify figures at the office or laugh and celebrate when others do it? Why is bribery the easiest way out anytime I find a bottleneck? The revolution starts with you. Inside your mind. Then it spreads to the people around you. And then it begins to gather critical mass. And then it spills over and the whole country catches the fever. |
subterfuge: President Jonathan has deservedly been conferred with the GCOB "Grand commander of the order of Black-out.Maybe because he has done the best of all our former presidents to improve the epileptic power situation in the country. I wonder what award the likes of OBJ, Yar Adua and the rest would recieve. |
[quote author=Omo_Tier1]Go here and see thing for yourself! Surely We need this man in the presidency come 2015.. http://oshiomholefor2012.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=101&Itemid=494[/quote]I will gladly vote Oshiomole for president come 2015. He is the most capable of all the opposition politicians. He is the only politician that can confuse PDP in 2015. But the ACN goons would never want him on the ticket. They will rather give us a Buhari who is the biggest tribal King Nigeria has produced in recent times with. Put Oshiomole on that ticket and we Jonathan fans would actually make a consideration!! The man is a true leader! |
qhiwegh: PhysicsQED:Intelligent Punch. Nice pointer!! 1000 likes!! |
thirty: There is no PDP state that you can compare with Ekiti and Osun States. If you are doubting let us open another thread and compare with facts and figures. Go Ekiti and Osun States and see for by yourself. Im opportune to travel, observed and asked questions about what is happen in those states. The young and old convince me anough.And did you visit Enugu, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Cross Rivers.... to conclude that no PDP state can compare with Ekiti and Osun?? I've been in both states you mentioned and even the most disliked PDP Governors like Uduaghan can boast of better. Asaba, Ilorin and Jigawa have experienced better change in the last 2 years than have Ekiti snd Osun. So please travel more Okay? And please I am waiting to see any pictures of Osun, Ekiti, Oyo, as we've see of Edo, Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Enugu. Please upload pictures or forever remain silent. |
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