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Ladylite:
Sorry you won't find wealthy people in hospitals... It's simply people who have money because Truly wealthy people can't go to any hospital in Nigeria.


There is hospital for the wealthy o

Wealthy people still go to the hospital, don't they? Whether Nigerian hospitals or abroad...

The money gospel is a twin devil with the works gospel ,
They have destroyed many and will do more .
It's logic is warped and will mislead any dishonest or lazy believer.
It teaches to suit certain whims ,
What is money gospel ?
You will know by its interpretation of scriptures
Let's see a few
Ephesians 4:28 KJV
[28] Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
It will lift the phrase " that he may have to give to him that needeth "
With this interpretation you start hearing catchy statements like
" we don't work for a living ,we work for a giving "
Only to further awaken greed and avarice in parishioners ,who already are desperate .
Let's return to the text and unabashedly view the contents .
Is the scripture a " prosperity " text or a rebuke ,correction and admonition for honesty ?
If you had read the previous texts and post texts ,you could never come out with another " get Rich " sermon .
Ephesians 4:25-27,29-32 KJV
[25] Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
26] Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
[27] Neither give place to the devil.
[29] Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
[30] And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31] Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32] And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Can you see?
He's teaching Christian conduct .
Verse 28 for the sake of all the Christ is simply means
You have been fraudulent ,stop it.
You are now a new creature in Christ .
Labour ,Work with your hands that which is good ,
First lesson ,start doing honest work ,don't defraud or cheat others .
Second lesson ,learn sacrifice ,love for others .
The money gospel likes the phrase " that he may have "
Whereas ,the text teaches HAVE TO GIVE TO HIM THAT IS IN NEED .
Paul warns about seeing materialism in the Gospel
1 Timothy 6:5 KJV
[5] Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
Corrupt minds ,destitute of the truth ,supposing " serving the lord brings prosperity "
When this happens to our minds ,we would use that text to teach " get more money ", rather than start making honest living and show care to others .
Both actions demonstrate same thing.
Love for others .
The thief already has!
That's why he's called a thief .He has things that aren't his .
So he shouldn't be taught to have only ,but work to have to give ,work honestly .
Scriptures can't mean what it never meant .
I have seen that verse that way before,no thanks to the money gospel which has disciples in every denomination and movement ,including the " finished works crowd "
It's this mindset that again interprets
1 Timothy 6:17 KJV
[17] Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
By staying with the last phrase " gives us richly all things to enjoy "
You can stay with this phrase and build all sorts of your own preset mind from there .
Tell who likes his statements used this way !
The pretext and post text don't support using that phrase unrestricted .
1 Timothy 6:8-16 KJV
[8] And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
[9] But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
[10] For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
[11] But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
[12] Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. [
13] I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
14] That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15] Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; [16] Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Post text
1 Timothy 6:18-19 KJV
[18] That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate; [19] Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.
Reading through this especially from verse 8 makes it abundantly clear that whilst paul spoke of how God gives ( which originally implies a pro/ pre action not a reaction to needs ), to ALL,richly to enjoy .
He now asked any who trusts in God to do the same !
GIVE!
Those he's teaching Timothy to instruct are already RICH,so he's not teaching prosperity but giving ,good Christian conduct ,love .
It's further debunks the " give to be rich syndrome " which is pure error .
Jesus used examples of the rich to show they / weren't aren't givers .
The rich fool
Luke 12:16-21 KJV
[16] And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: [17] And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? [18] And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods. [19] And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. [20] But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? [21] So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.
The rich young ruler
Mark 10:21-24 KJV
[21] Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22] And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
[23] And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
[24] And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
Both were rich but not givers .
Also the rich man in the Lazarus story .
The target of the money gospel is to inspire greed and covetousness .
Scriptures meant for giving are being turned into " get Rich " sermons .
Let me close with one more ..
Acts 20:35 KJV
[35] I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
Again imagine lifting the last phrase " it's more blessed to give ..."
Oh glory ,brethren the blessing is in the giving Bla Bla Bla ..
Then tell the parishioners ,if you want Gods blessing give !
Wow,God help us !
The term blessed was NEVER used in the New Testament for material things .
It means to "speak well of.".not " empowered to prosper " as some including myself had taught
Hence paul and peters terms
Ephesians 1:3 KJV
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
We speak good of God who has spoken well of us with all God things said of us in Christ Jesus ..
When you start to read from verse 4 you will read what he says of us in Him!
1 Corinthians 14:16-17 KJV
[16] Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
[17] For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
Hence to bless with the spirit means to speak well of God in tongues !
Same as peter
1 Peter 1:3 KJV
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
James was more precise
James 3:9-10 KJV
[9] Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. [10] Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Words !
So go through Mathew to Revelation and see this for yourself !
Back to Acts 20:35 ,its more commended ,proper ,fortunate ,happy ,well spoken of to give and help others than take from them !
This means I am happier helping others than been helped
The pretext is this clear
Acts 20:33-34 KJV
[33] I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel. [34] Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
Giving !
A minister of the gospel must flee this wrong and terrible schemes of bible interpretation
1 Timothy 6:5 KJV
[5] Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
Withdraw yourself from those who have made money and influence from these errors ..
1 Timothy 6:11 KJV
[11] But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
Run !
Paul warns against wanting to be rich as a focus in ministry ,you will ERR from the faith ,which refers to good doctrine ,bible teaching
1 Timothy 4:6 KJV
[6] If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
Words of faith, good teaching ,explanation ,which means there are bad explanations .
Let's be seasoned men and women in the ministry and stop this evil of material results at all and any cost in the gospel .
Hope this is clear ?
Let me know..
I call you blessed
Rev'd Onayinka Olusegun

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Eviana:
Hope you don't mind me saying this.
I think I get where you are trying to go, but it would be more helpful if you would expand on your thoughts...like maybe provide examples to further express your point.
Perhaps give a balance...being prosperous yet understanding the true purpose of Christianity.

Riches, Wealth and prosperity were things that existed before Christ. So Christ didn't come to give mankind what they already had. Man was lacking one thing which was what Christ came to give.. Salvation is what that thing is.

Look around the world today and you'll see most of the richest and most successful people in the world of all disciplines, fields and careers and non christians and atheist. They got their wealth and success without the knowledge of Christ. Some got theirs with diligent and handwork, some with crooked and dubious means. But the keyword is that they succeded without Christ. They neither, prayed, fasted, went to church, night vigils etc for success. Same with marriages, getting visas, getting a job etc.

So you see all these things are not the reason why Jesus died.

And remember, nowhere did I say a Christian cannot or should not be rich or successful or excel in life. But the gospel isn't a means to get all these...

nlPoster:
Folks, we need to exercise. It's in the bible.

Are you saying choreography in the Nigerian Christian circle is making you uneasy? Could you explain why for those of us who dont know.

Sorry for replying late.

But did you read everything I wrote?

Mary along with all of mankind needed to believe in Jesus to be saved. Her status as the birth mother of Jesus Christ cannot save her from sin. Only faith in Christ alone can.
So it makes no sense to ask Mary to intercede on your behalf when both of you have only one way to God (Christ).

Imagine asking the mother of a gate man to help you tell her son to open a gate for you when you can ask the gate man directly..

Nowhere in the 4 gospels did Jesus ask his followers to pray to his mother for intersession... Neither in the epistles is anything like that found.

Praying to Mary, for whatever reason is unbiblical as there is no single verse in the bible to back it up

Whatever an unbeliever can have an advantage over a believer in can never be the reason why Jesus died!

So getting a job, passing an exam, prosperity and riches, visas, getting married etc are not the reason Jesus came to Earth to die.

I strongly believe that Christians should prosper & excel in life. I just don't believe the gospel is the means for that. It's Not!

DanXplore:
Exactly. Just the other day, one guy was showing me pictures of the perfume Ronaldo sells in an attempt to prove that Ronaldo was better than Messi.

Some will say Ronaldo is finer.. Or muscular..

Dreal1247:
No pix. Yet with all these, if you miss heaven, you have certainly lost everything.

Did you read everything that was written or you just skimmed through?

The United States Bullion Depository in Fort Knox, Kentucky, is a fortified building that stores 5,000 tons of gold bullion (precious metal) valued at some $137 billion dollars
and other precious items entrusted to the federal government.
Fort Knox is protected by a 22-ton door and layers of physical security:
alarms, video cameras, minefields, barbed razor wire, electric fences, armed guards, and unmarked Apache helicopters.
The vault door, which has a combination that must be entered by some 10 different staff members — none of which know anything but their part of the code, is the crown jewel of a nearly impregnable fortress.
And while this is a fantastic security measure, it’s not like anyone could ever get inside the building anyway,
what with the tanks, Apache helicopters, armed guards, fences, concrete-lined granite walls, video surveillance and alarms that all safeguard the facility.
It’s no wonder, then, that at the height of World War II, Fort Knox stored the Magna Carta, the Crown Jewels of the United Kingdom, the gold reserves of several occupied European nations, the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. The Gettysburg Address and the Guttenberg Bible have both reportedly been protected inside Fort Knox as well.
Based on the level of security, Fort Knox is considered one of the safest places on earth.
As safe as Fort Knox is, there's another place that's safer, and it's filled with something more precious than gold.
1 Peter 1:3-5
[God] has begotten us . . . to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you.
Who are kept and guarded by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Heaven holds our gift of eternal life and eternal salvation . The apostle Peter encouraged believers in Christ to praise God because we have "a living hope"-a confident expectation that grows and gains strength the more we learn about Jesus (1 Peter 1:3).
And our hope is based on the resurrected Christ. His gift of eternal life will never come to ruin as a result of hostile forces or our own errors and sins .
It will never lose its glory or freshness, because God has been keeping and will continue to keep it safe in heaven.
No matter what harm may come to us in our life on earth, God is guarding our souls. Our inheritance is safe.
Ephesians 1:13 and 14 speaks of us being sealed with the promised Holy Spirit UNTIL THE DAY OF THE REDEMPTION OF OUR BODIES and not safe until we sin.
Like a safe within a safe, our salvation is protected by God and we're secure.
Our born again spirit is hid inside Christ inside God. Nothing that happens to us in this life can reach it.
Jesus says that no man and that includes you can snatch you out of the Father's hand because the Father is stronger than all (the Father is not just stronger than all men and powers, he is stronger than even your sins and failures in this life). He is stronger than ALL.
How does it make you feel knowing that your salvation is kept safe with God?
An inheritance in heaven is the safest possible place. This is shouting territory guys
Glory to God forever!
Amen!

Whatever you see or do when awake and have no problem with, you shouldn't have a problem seeing or doing it in the dream too.
Simple!
If you don't have a problem swimming, eating, drinking, flying in real life, why are you suddenly bothered by any of these when you do them in your dreams?
Why should seeing a common snake become a big deal when you see it in the dream whereas you see a snake when you are awake and you don't give any mysterious interpretation to it?
Why should swimming or eating become a big deal in the dream when you eat and swim every day?
Do you think you are going to die whenever you walk past where they sell caskets or whenever you see one in a burial?
Why then do you now suddenly think or believe there is imminent death for you or a loved one when you see the same casket in your dream?
And why can't you interpret seeing a casket or a burial in the dream to mean you're being reminded that you are the one who is to raise the dead?
When you see yourself dead in the dream why can't you see it as a reminder that you are dead with Christ and buried together with him?
Have you not been seeing that all over the scriptures? How come there's suddenly a problem now that you're having a vision of the same scriptures that you've been studying?
A wise and mature believer doesn't go about seeking for interpretation or meaning to his dreams. He gives meaning to his dreams instead. He is both the dreamer and the interpreter of his dreams. And his interpretation must be submissive to knowledge of the written word
You are not Pharaoh or Nebuchadnezzar who goes about seeking for interpretation for their dreams. You are not a heathen man
You are a believer!
No believer in the Bible ever had a dream and went around seeking for interpretation
A believer should be able to subject every dream he has to the knowledge of Christ
If you have a dream that seeks to exalt itself above the knowledge of Christ you are to take it captive and bring it to the obedience of Christ
2Cor 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
Never accept as an interpretation for any dream that which brings fear, dread and anxiety
There are no fixed meanings or interpretations to dreams. Those are things you only find in fables, superstition and traditions of men
Stuff you only find in stupid dream books
The believer has the mind of Christ. He determines what becomes of any dream, trance or vision
People empower dreams that have no power by thinking on them and giving in to fear.
I hope this meets you well
Do let me know
The grace of Jesus is with your spirit

EMILO2STAY:
because Isaac newton copied his works from Pythagoras who was equally a kabbalist.

You know half truths are worse than lies. You know why? Cos there's an element of truth in it.

And that's what most the these conspiracy theorists do. They use half truths to sell their lies.

Maybe Newton really copied his works from Kabbalist Pythagoras, but he has given proofs which has been experimented on by others on the existence of gravity..

1Tim3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
The church is the pillar and ground of the truth, and everything done in the church must reflect the truth.
Everything must be done unto edifying. To build up people and not to entertain and feed the flesh
Choreography in Church is of no spiritual benefit neither to the dancer (Choreographer) nor to the spectator
1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. LET ALL THINGS BE DONE UNTO EDIFYING ...
FOR THE PERFECTING OF THE SAINTS , for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: (Eph 4:11)
Whatever is done in the church must be done unto edifying for the perfecting of the saints, and choreography falls short of spiritual edification on all grounds
All it does is feed the flesh and entertain us.
Come to think of it, dancing, drama and other forms of entertainment existed during the time of Christ. But it was never recorded that a dance or drama was performed before any of his sermons.

It doesn't matter if the soundtrack they are dancing to is Don Moen, Hillsong or Jesus culture, it is entertainment.
Choreography breeds lazy and unserious Christians :
Another thing that Choreography in Church does is divert the attention of the youth from emphasis on Spiritual growth :Bible study, prayer and evangelism to the flesh
I've been around Choreographers long enough to know the amount of time, money, effort and commitment spent in rehearsing and preparing for one dance presentation.
These guys go through several all night, and day rehearsals just to perfect one dance
Same people who would complain about all night prayer vigils in a hurry
To them all night prayers are boring but dancing is exciting. Of course it excites the flesh
A closer look at Choreography will show you that the best Choreographers in the world are not Christians. So you can hardly be a Choreographer and have a Christian as your model.
A lot is spent on buying clothes and costumes for the dance presentation. Ask these same folks to give to the gospel, they won't
I even saw a very funny title some time ago ; THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO CHOREOGRAPHY.
Nothing could be further from the truth. No matter how emotional and wonderful a choreography is, it can never save a soul. No matter the song that is playing
The best it can do is give birth to an emotional experience and not a new creature.
I love seeing good and excellent choreographies, but not in Church
Not in the house of God! Same way I love good movies but I don't go to church to see them. I go to the movies or see it at home
Can a Christian be a professional Choreographer and make money from it? I'm sure it's possible.
But not in the church, and no one should say his special ministry is choreography.
We have no such ministry in the church of Christ.
A good pastor knows how to focus on the spiritual growth of his members and not on entertainment which only feeds the flesh
Don't do crusades and put in Choreography, drama and rap to attract the youths
If they come in because of entertainment they will remain in the church because of entertainment
You won't bring in entertainment into a crusade or conference if you truly trust the power of the gospel to save.
You won't do that if you have prayed
Entertainment is what people use to cover up powerlessness in Church
A powerful church is a word church, it's a praying and evangelizing church.
Preaching grace is not tantamount to allowing entertainment in church
Let's keep it simple, let's do it by-the-book
Stick to the basics of Christian worship :
1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying....
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: (Eph 4:12)
We must put emphasis on
Perfecting the saints for the work of the ministry. The fruit of ministry is more ministry
Point the children and youths to diligence in Bible study, prayer and soul winning, not entertainment. We will all give account to God on what we have done with his church
What will your account be?
Entertainment is a work that will surely be burnt up by the fire.
Leave entertainment o pastor. If not you go suffer loss o!
1Cor 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire
Stay faithful sir /ma
1Cor 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.
2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.
Enough said!
The grace of Jesus with your spirits!
The saints are triumphant still!
Amen!

EMILO2STAY:
i said how do you know? Not what is pushing you but how do you know that it is gravity pushing you.?

I honestly do not know how to answer that question. It's just like asking how do I know that it os oxygen that I'm breathing in?

EMILO2STAY:
very good you admitted he formed a theory purely our of his imagination with not a single experiment or proof to detect or confirm gravity. Newton's idea of gravity did not really come from his observing an apple fall from a tree, his idea of gravity comes from the Jewish book of black magic called kabbalah. Till today there is not a single proof of gravity yet this is taught as science fact.

The ball earth proponents needed an excuse to explain away why humans are not flying off the spinning ball so newton saved the day with special knowledge of gravity

Where did I say Newton formed the theory of gravity without any experiment?

You said Newton's idea of gravity comes from the Jewish book of black magic called kabbalah. How did you know this? Weren't you still fed this by other people?. How can you believe that of a true they're 100% correct and Newton is wrong?

EMILO2STAY:
were is the proof of existence of gravity? , if we were not taught of gravity, common sense tells us our weight keeps us on the ground and not a mythical unproven force called gravity. Why would newton be the one to discover gravity. We would all know some thing is pulling us if there is anything at all that is pulling us towards the earth. Is Isaac newton the first man to see an apple fall from a tree?.

The word "discovery" doesn't mean he "invented" gravity. He just observed an apple falling down a tree (which obviously millions of people must have noticed during his time). He didn't stop at observing like everybody else. He did more experiments on things falling down from a height an was able to formulate a theory for his observations... The difference between Newton and others was that he was the first to put in on paper

EMILO2STAY:
how do you know gravity is pushing you down when you fall off a cliff?

What else is pushing me? An invisible person?

Anas09:
Let me ask you a question Bros. How does the information in the Book of Enoch help our Christian Life?

I have read the post up by Pastormustwacc, and I'm wondering, I need to be a better folower of Jesus, doing as He commanded me. I need the grace to love Him with all of my everything and love my neighbor as I love myself. And here is the book of Enoch and reading through it has nothing to do with Spiritual nourishment. So. of what good is it to my Christian walk?

Will it build my faith in Christ better than my faith is right now?

Will it foster hope in me assuming I'm in a bad place hope wise?

What will it do for me? Just the information that It was quoted in the main Bible and that Enoch wrote it. Or the info about Angels and Demons? Aren't we as Christians admonished to pay no attention to the ministry of Angels? Even the good ones? So why bother with this?

Just that, one sometimes gets carried away by the excitements and jumps into threads to comment even when it's unnecessary. But, I promised myself not to talk, think, or read abt what won't benefit me Spiritually and mentally.

So, I regret making you bring us down here, it's very irrelevant to me. I'm so sorry.

Whatever Enoch wrote or did not write this book, it adds nothing to my Christian life. I have the Bible to read and adhere to, if only I can adhere to the teachings from Matt. Chapters 5 to 8, I wld be a Saint. I don't know why I shd go looking for more obscure teachinag.

The Life of Angels and Demons is not important to me, since I cannot even on my own partition a good Angel to do anything for me without going through God.

What's the point of knowing about them so deeply?

I'm very careful about the Deep things of satan, that's why Rebecca Brown's books are kept at a distance. Keep your heart with diligence. Satan knows how delicate the heart is, hence takes advantage of it.

Hertics starts when we try to look for the "deep" things.

Eccl 10:19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things
Does money answer all things?
Was that what this verse says?
As a rule of Bible interpretation, you must never take the word ALL literarily and give it an omnibus application
All things cannot be all things but must be seen in the context of all that is stated in the text
So let's look at our text again
What are the all things that money answers?
A feast is made for laughter,
and wine makes merry or cheerful
He said if you want to have laughter you could have a feast and you'll have laughter
And if you want to be merry, wine can give you that
And that money answers both.
That is, money will give you a feast for laughter and wine for merriment
So the all things that money will answer are A FEAST , LAUGHTER , WINE and MERRIMENT
Notice that 'things' is actually italicised in the text. Meaning it was never there in the first place.
Hence the original text actually states
A FEAST IS MADE FOR LAUGHTER , AND WINE MAKETH MERRY : BUT MONEY ANSWERETH ALL THESE
This would have been a much better translation.
So money doesn't answer all things
A stroll down the nearest hospital will confirm that. There are rich folks there whose money has become useless in healing them.
So always endeavour to read in context.

Emusan:
To you in a lay man's view, what is gravity?

No-one says Jumping off a cliff won't land you on earth's surface even badly....but the point is, is it gravity or something else?

To a layman, gravity is that force that pulls down every object with mass towards to earth surface.

Is it the word "gravity" the bone of contention or the force itself (which existence can't be denied) that pulls down every object.. I want to know.

We can argue with everything except the truth. The truth always have a way of proving itself. I can come on board and argue against gravity and probably even win a debate in my argument. I can bring all the logic and reason to prove the non-existence of gravity. But when I jump off a cliff, it is then the truth will prove itself on whether gravity do exist or not..

Mark 2:15 And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
I can just imagine what the news headlines would have read for days
A: Popular rabbi and self acclaimed messiah, Jesus of Nazareth found eating, drinking and enjoying himself with Especially notorious sinners, harlots and agberos
B: Jesus of Nazareth, self acclaimed son of God gives license to sin..
He was seen yesterday eating and drinking with sinners and encouraging them to continue in sin that grace may abound
C: Popular hyper grace preacher finally caught encouraging sinners to continue in sin. He did this by eating and drinking with them in their numbers and he didn't even invite them home, he went to their house along with his disciples and church members to encourage them to do the same
And like someone said, "sinners know how to eat and enjoy themselves, and they don't serve Fanta and Coke".
Do you only preach the gospel of no condemnation when it's convenient?
Do you preach the same message of forgiveness of sins (past, present and future) to everybody or only to a select audience?
Would you preach the same message to people in the very act of sin?
How would you address a believer struggling with sin?
Do you set the gospel aside first and face "reality"?
Mark 2:14 As he walked along, he saw Levi son of Alphaeus sitting at his tax collector’s booth. “Follow me and be my disciple,” Jesus said to him. So Levi got up and followed him.
15 Later, Levi invited Jesus and his disciples to his home as dinner guests, along with many tax collectors and other disreputable sinners. (There were many people of this kind among Jesus’ followers.)
16 But when the teachers of religious law who were Pharisees saw him eating with tax collectors and other sinners, they asked his disciples, “Why does he eat with such scum?”
17 When Jesus heard this, he told them, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor—sick people do. I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners.”
If you cannot preach to a sinner whom you found in the act of sin without mentioning his sin, then you haven't preached the gospel to him.

Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
First things first, let's read the verse in it's context
Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you
So, In order to understand Eph 4:30 you need to read it in its context. What is the tone of the surrounding verses?
What exactly was Paul teaching on there?
One way to get clarity about the context of a text is to remove the particular verse and read the surrounding verses without it first and see what they are saying then insert it back again and read everything together.
Now let's do that for this text
Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you
After reading without verse 30 what is obvious about the context?
Walking in love!
Paul was teaching believers to walk in love towards other believers
He talks about not giving room for corrupt communication, bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, evil speaking and malice
Says we should put away all these
Don't be found saying stuff that will hurt your brother out of anger
Then instructs us to instead be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another for Christ's sake
Don't react from anger and hurt your brother with your words, rather be quick to forgive just as Christ has forgiven us
So, grieving the Holy spirit is directly connected to how we treat other believers who house the Holy spirit
When I grieve my brother by speaking evil of him and speaking words which do not minister grace to him I am grieving the Holy spirit also
Grieving my brother is grieving the Holy spirit
And grieving the Holy spirit is the same as grieving my brother
Now let's see
Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
And... (That is) grieve not the holy spirit
And grieve not the holy spirit
How?
When I allow my communication to grieve my brother instead of edifying him
Meaning if my communication doesn't minister grace to my hearer (my brother who is sealed with the spirit just as I am) I grieve the spirit in grieving my brother
So grieving the Holy spirit has nothing to do with losing salvation or breaking fellowship with God as some have taught
Clear now?
You are blessed!

There is always this tendency for folks to read 'all things ' in the scriptures and take it literally
I'm sure you've heard people make 'faith confessions' like
ALL THINGS are mine
That house is mine
That Money is mine
That car is mine.
How about sickness and poverty too? Are they not part of "all things"?
I can do ALL THINGS through Christ that strengthens me
I can win that competition
I can be the best singer
I can have a first class... Through Christ who strengthens me (don't go and read you will fail All things)
How about 'I can rob a bank, and take your wife or become the president of America through Christ that strengthens me?
And this too
If God spared not his son but delivered him up for us how shall he not also give us ALL THINGS.
Therefore he'll give me that car, that house, that job, my promotion, my admission
The only thing that God will withhold from me is what is greater than his son Jesus
Very deep!
Whenever you read 'all things' in the scriptures, it is of utmost importance that you understand 'all things' in the context of all things mentioned and not literally all things.
We do not have the liberty to include in 'all things' what is not part of all things
All things in the bible is not a blank cheque as some say.
It is bad hermeneutics to include in all things what is not specified in the all things in a particular text.
Let's take a few examples of all things.
1Cor 3
[21] Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours
Are all things actually ours?
Context...
[22] Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
[23] And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.
So how many things in all are yours here?
Paul, Apollos, Cephas, the world, life, our death, things present, things to come
Let's see the next text
Romans 8
[28] And we know that ALL THINGS work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose
[32] He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us ALL THINGS ?
I'm sure you've heard people say things like all things work together for our good. And by that they mean the death of a loved one or just about every unfortunate event you can think of.
They'll quote that scripture to back it up that God is behind it or using the situation to work something good out
Then of course the second camp that claim all things being available by the sacrifice of Jesus. Using verse 32 as a backup.
There is wealth and prosperity in the blood. Success and excellence is there too. Your marriage is there. Maybe your Boo and Bae too
Now let's see the context of all things in the above text
Romans 8
[28] And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
[29] For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
[30] Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
[31] What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can beagainst us?
[32] He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things
So what are the all things that work together for our good and that God will not or did not withhold from us?
Foreknowledge
Predestination
Conformity to the image of Christ
Calling
Justification
Glorification
Pay attention to
verse 31
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
Or what shall we say to all these things?
So, verse 32 would better read
.. how shall he not with him freely give us ALL THESE THINGS
And this also
Eph 1
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with ALL SPIRITUAL BLESSINGS in heavenly places in Christ:
Oh we have all spiritual blessings in Christ. But in order to make use of them you have to pull them down into the natural. You have to convert them into natural blessings because the spiritual controls the natural.
These blessings are hanging in the realm of the spirit. You have to pull them down. Some through prayer and others through sowing.
It's all a charismatic sickness. It's jazz!
Let's investigate the context of all spiritual blessings.
Eph 1
[4] According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
[5] Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
[6] To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
[7] In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
[8] Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
[9] Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
[10] That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
[11] In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
[12] That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
So what are the all spiritual blessings in Christ here?
We are chosen in him before the foundation of the world to be holy and without blame before him in love verse 4
Predestinated unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ according to his good pleasure. Verse 5
.. To the praise and glory of his grace, and accepted in the beloved. Verse 6
In whom we have redemption through his blood, that is the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of his grace. Verse 7
Abounded towards us in all wisdom and prudence. Verse 8
Revelation into his will according to his good pleasure. Verse 9
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will to the praise of his glory. Verses 11&12
Sealed with the Holy spirit of promise. Verse 13.
And in context also would include verses 19, his exceeding great power towards us
Verse 20-23, raised up with Christ far above all principality and power, and might, and dominion and every name,
all things(authority, dominion, power might) being put under his feet for us, him being the head of the church which is his body that fills all in all.
All the spiritual blessings from chapter 1:3 actually goes way down to chapter 2 verse 21 in context.
Most of the time chapters could be hindrances to contextual reading. That's why we ought to read the whole letter and the whole book.
Lastly, let's see the context of Christ's all things in Luke 24
Luke 24
[25] Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe ALL that the prophets have spoken:
[26] Ought not Christ to have suffered THESE THINGS , and to enter into his glory?
[27] And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures THE THINGS CONCERNING HIMSELF
So what are the ALL that the prophets spoke in verse 25?
The 'these things' in verse 26, which are 'the things concerning himself' in verse 27.
[44] And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that ALL THINGS must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me
{What are the all things that must be fulfilled in 44?
The things written in the law of Moses, and in the psalms and the prophets CONCERNING HIM. which are that Christ should suffer and rise from the dead the third day in verse 46}
[46] And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
[47] And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Let's see elsewhere in the book of Luke how Christ defined the all things.
Luke 18
[31] Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and ALL THINGS THAT ARE WRITTEN BY THE PROPHETS CONCERNING THE SON OF MAN shall be accomplished.
Now don't miss this.. FOR
[32] For HE SHALL BE DELIVERED UNTO THE GENTILES , AND SHALL BE MOCKED , AND SPITEFULLY ENTREATED , AND SPITTED ON :
[33] AND THEY SHALL SCOURGE HIM , AND PUT HIM TO DEATH : AND THE THIRD DAY HE SHALL RISE AGAIN .
Those are the all things. Jesus put the all things as the things about his death, burial and resurrection. Which are the sufferings of Christ and the glory that should follow.
I call you blessed.
I hope you find this a helpful aid and guide in your study

John 3:16 is the greatest passage in the bible

alBHAGDADI:
Where in the Bible does it say saved people who continue in sin will go to hell fire? Nowhere is such found in the Bible. Saved people who sin are only punished here on Earth by God their father. God scourges as chastens his children who sin to keep them obeying him.

Hebrews 12:6-11 (KJV)
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

The Bible also states that our earthly fathers correct us when we do wrong. How many earthly fathers have you seen feed their son to a lion? None. Yet you think God will send his own children who carry his spirit to hell fire?

Hebrews 12:9
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

You are here expecting man to be without sin. If it were possible for man to be sinless, there won't have been any need for Jesus to come. During his days, he said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone". No one could cast a stone because they were all sinners. Yet you believe a man exists today, in this corrupt and immoral world, that is without sin.


1 John 1:8 (KJV)
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.


You have made God a liar by saying man has to be without sin before he can make heaven. You made God a list who said we are all sinners and there is none righteous, no not one.

1 John 1:10
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


Well, you are a liar, that's why you believe one has to be sinless to make heaven. Whereas, the word of God says we are all sinners.


Romans 3:23-26 (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

As seen above, we are all sinners. The only ones justified in the sight of God Almighty are the ones who have been justified through their believe in Jesus, not the works of righteousness.

We will always sin as long as we exist in this flesh because the spirit and flesh are at battle. Guess what? The sins don't send us to hell. Why? Because Jesus Christ is our advocate who ensures we don't come into condemnation.


1 John 2:1 (KJV)
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:


The Bible also advised us to not grieve the Holy Spirit which is what happens when we sin. However, that same Holy Spirit has SEALED us for all eternity and just waiting to redeem what he has sealed.

Ephesians 4:30
“And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”

The reason we are afraid of sinning is because we fear God and don't want him to visit us with the curses in Deutoronomy 28 which he places on those who disobey his commandments. As for sin sending us to hell fire, that's a lie.

I've gone against you with the word of God. All you've done is spew your own understanding. What has Satan promised you that is making you so eager to hinder people from getting saved?

God doesn't punish us for sinning. Sin is it's own punishment.

The thing about Nigerian government is that they want us to pay more for a perceived development. They should first develop, then ask us to pay more and we will gladly pay

biggerboyc:
How happy will you be if you are in a school and you carry Second but the guy that carry first only use 1 mark pass you

On July 20, 1969, Armstrong and Apollo 11 Lunar Module (LM) pilot Buzz Aldrin became the first people to land on the Moon. Buzz Aldrin was just a few second later than Neil Armstrong to land on the moon but because he wasn't the first, he isn't really known...

In conclusion, the first is always the first

One good thing about the north is that they're united. North east, north west, the core north and even some part of north central all see themselves as northerns.. You can't say this about the south...

This is proof that Nigeria will become worse if it divide. It is then you'll see an Urhobos fighting that an Okpe man shouldn't be President. or an enugu igbo fighting an anambra man for presidency.....

BabbanBura:
I weep for my people, the northerners! How has this religion helped us so far? Why is it difficult to see that it only enslaves the people and stiples development of any kind? Can't they see that the society has crumbled right in the face of the religion? Am sorry to say but religion, especially Islam as practiced in Nigeria does no good for my people in the North and to Nigeria at large.

I disagree with you sir/ma.

Religion has never been man's problem. Man has always been the problem of man.

Some of the richest country in the world are religious country. In fact, a good part of them are Islamic country. So you see, religion is not the problem. Man is the problem of man.

Remove religion from the society and you'd see how the society will crumble very fast..

But I thought President Buhari is dead according to Nnamdi....

All those calling fulani herdsmen terrorists and are still buying cow meat are indirectly sponsoring a terrorist organization and they're also a party to the "fulanization" agenda

If you're saying fulani herdsmen are terrorists and you still buy cow meat, you're indirectly sponsoring a terrorist organization and you're also supporting the "Fulanization" agenda.