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We will definitely get there if we don't stop taking the positive steps no matter how short and slow each one is.

GOD BLESS NIGERIA


GOD BLESS WESTERN NIGERIA TOO

WE RISE!

Good one from the partnering companies. More wins. More wins for Lagos too.
Ibeju Lekki welcomes you all
The entire Lagos state proclaim her readiness to work with you as an investor in whatever sector you deem fit. It promises to be a worthwhile experience. We ain't asking you to believe in what we offer, we only ask you to try it and be convinced.
WHAT SHOULD YOU EXPECT：
Attractive ROI
Friendly Business Environment
Large And Ready Market
Government Moderate Support
Business-Oriented Policies
Fantastic Weather All-Year-Round
Improving Transport System
And many more.

Just be sure you know what you're doing and push on despite. It's always an enormous challenge navigating through a rough patch especially that decades of damages that characterized the situation of Nigerian economy and realities.

That's the seal, man. Now a confirmed AMERICAN.

Problem is how would they be able to identify residents from outsiders who may take advantage of the opportunities to buy off the foodstuff in order to resell wherever they may come from？ Unless people buy with LASSRA or national I.D card with verifiable Lagos address, then the main target may end up not benefitting much from the programme.

BUT good step notwithstanding. May GOD continue to bless Lagos state

FOR A GREATER LAGOS STATE


EKO O NI BAJE O

Didn't RUSSIA confirmed they preffered the current POTUS to the old one so what changed？ Because of just that little taunt POTUS just threw at Putin, you guys suddenly changed praise to attack？Talk about a confused bunch. You had hoped for a US president that you can trickle to companionship but since Biden has refused to play ball, you turned to name-calling. Poor RUSSIANS!

Alright. We await the result and hope wholeheartedly that this works in favour of our nation and the firm, in reward of their support.

GOD BLESS NIGERIA

WE RISE!

Good step but the main focus should be how to increase the volume of its production to be able to cater for our domestic needs comfortably and still accomodate some volume for export to generate more FX. But I support the step that domestic consumption must initially be wholly satisfied before we embark on exportation.

Appointment notably spread around this time

Welcome back soldier

Hope the police didn't take this for the gospel truth and do a thorough investigation into the circumstance surrounding the disappearance and how,he ended up being drown. Anything is possible; it may be a murder act disguised as accident for all I care.

When there's too much quarrel and disagreements already, learn to take a walk. You don't have to tarry till it drops to some irredeemable fatality.

Unfortunately we don't have the scientific and technical know-how to handle critical discovery like this. They may require to take some samples and sent to a well-equipped medical and research facilities abroad for proper diagnosis of the disease and determine the extent of its spread. Times are hard already so we can surely do without adding more troubles to what's presently on ground. Time they acted fast. Now！

The also-run party. Let's see if they can spring any surprise this time round.

Hope it won't return back to the unfavourable decline the next day.

Perhaps they hope to pass some message they wanted only the northerners to grab. In a multi-lingual nation, what can be worse than that？

Good for the region

Fujiyama:
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Only an unrepentant, irredeemable hypocrite does the sort of thing you are trying to do here. After showing a glaring lack of respect and decorum you are now trying to walk back your comments.

I was very civil in my earlier posts. I did not insult you or call you names. You introduced the gutter language and the name calling - where there was absolutely no reason for it. Like I said earlier, it is clearly a defence mechanism to mask your lack of a solid, convincing argument. I generally avoid exchanges with posters like you because I have nothing to gain from gratuitous insults. Any fool can engage in that...and I simply don't have the time or interest in doing so.



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Nonsense.

My posts are there for all to read. I asked another poster a couple of questions and stated some facts about construction work in Germany. If in your book that translates to pushing notions 'down the throat of any opposition' , then that's your problem



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Yet more nonsense.

First of all, your liberal use of the word 'tribe' exposes your complete lack of awareness of the origins of that word and what it connotes. That word as used by colonialists and European 'explorers' is highly pejorative, and self respecting Africans generally avoid its use today. Much more acceptable terms are 'ethnicity', 'ethnic group' or 'ethnic nationality'. Be guided.

Second...kindly go back and read my question again. I asked if every ritual involves a king, chiefs or priests. Despite what you think, the answer to that is a resounding no...unless you are saying every ritual has a 'procession'. I grew up in the heart of Yorubaland with ATR devotees constantly placing calabashes at 'T' junctions with grains, legumes and a few unfortunate animals contained therein. There was no procession of royalty or the ATR priesthood...sometimes it was just one or two individuals involved. Were all those individuals ATR devotees? Obviously. Were they all kings, chiefs and ATR priests? Obviously not.



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Very funny.

I asked if they compulsorily dress for the occasion and you leave yourself some wiggle room with the word 'usually'. This point is important because the video shows a man in Ankara antire and an individual in Lagos State Safety Commission? uniform carrying out the rites. I wager these men are ATR devotees who carried out the sacrifice...and they are most certainly not dressed 'in accordance' as you put it.



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So what exactly are you trying to say?

So...the priests, kings etc. performed the rites but ran away from the cameras because they are press shy? Or the LASG official and the other fellow are just random interlopers who showed up and started draining the blood of a ram into a bowl?

What exactly is your point?




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I have repeatedly asked that you go over my posts once again to fully understand them. They are clear and easy to read.

Ok...let me understand this. Someone mentioned Julius Berger in relation to the topic and I threw in a couple of points that are germane to the discussion. In your wisdom (or folly, depending on how you look at it) you are trying to legislate the direction of the argument? Are you the Thought Police?




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Are the men holding that ram in the video Chinese, Lebanese or Indian? Again, what exactly is your point?



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You are being highly disingenuous here. But it isn't working.




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Spare me the hypocritical, self serving sermons. I have no need or use for them.

You have no argument and it shows. In my first few posts on this thread, I asked a couple of brief questions and put forward some easily verifiable facts. You did not challenge any of them (because you can't) but instead went off on a wild tangent to only God knows where. I guess I was expecting too much from an individual who views the exchange of ideas from the prism of 'tribe', without understanding that the very use of that word diminishes him and does him no favours.

Go learn how to properly structure an argument...then we can talk and I can learn something from you.

Good morning!

DONE with the topic like I'd pointed earlier for all the reasons I pointed earlier. I hope you don't have problem understanding that. Good night.

Trust in him but make the thing more work less talk.

That's good

Can't wait

Ibeju is headed to be the most industrialised and important economic zone yet in Nigeria. Lekki FTZ welcomes you all; your business, factory, residence and resilience.

Thank you Ardova PLC

GOD BLESS IBEJU LEKKI

GOD BLESS THE ENTIRE LAGOS STATE

FOR A GREATER LAGOS STATE

GOD BLESS WESTERN NIGERIA STATES

ILE OODUA A GBEWA TAKO TABO O

If only he knew what CANADA had in stock for him......

Patience is a virtue; a characteristic of a careful planner and achiever.

Merit dies the moment a preference is involved.

Alright

Fujiyama:
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For some reason, I never got a notification about your mentions. I am only just getting to see them tonight, completely by accident.

First of all, you clearly have no argument.

If you had a coherent argument then you would lay it out and it would speak for itself. Because you have no argument, you take refuge in silly, childish insults. My posts are as clear as can be and there's nothing to add or subtract. If you can't comprehend them, I can't help you.



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Yes I did see the video.

You are obviously incapable of building any kind of mildly complex scenario. Does every 'ritual' by definition involve a king, chief or priests? Have you thought about the possibility that the men carrying out the sacrifice in the video are traditionalists and they assumed (or were given) the responsibility to carry out the ritual? Must they all be bare chested and in white wrappers to prove their 'traditionalness' to you?



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I do not need your unsolicited advice (free or not) on far and middle Eastern popular religion...I am more than capable of finding out that information for myself. I was very specific in the example I gave in my earlier posts: Bilfinger Berger - a German construction company. By your own admission in your post above, you are ignorant about 'German level of infusion into spirituality' (whatever the hell that means ). Since you know nothing about the specific example I cited, I will discuss instead with others who do know something about the topic.



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What you believe doesn't count for anything here. We are interested in facts and evidence here, not the empty, meaningless conjecture that is the hallmark of your posts on this thread. I said it once and I will repeat it since you seem to be unusually obtuse, even by NL standards: Bilfinger Berger doesn't do goat sacrifices before building infrastructure in Germany.

Take it or leave it.

I will make this simple as possible lest you see insults where there ain't none. And this is despite having drawn a conclusive line under the discussion that day having realized you're already inclined to a belief and were/are only trying so hard to push such notion of yours down the throat of any opposition in whatever way. Mind you, this is definitely gonn be my last contribution on this topic. It's official now.
First of, my response merely ask you to not act like a pathetic clown since you're showing a trait of one, not actually calling you one. You can go back to read carefully. And you can always check my posts too, unless you resort to insults, I won't start such against no one. We all deserves each other respect.
Now to your major points, you ask whether a king, chief or priest must be at a ritual procession？ THE ANSWER IS YES, ABSOLUTELY YES. I don't know what tribe you belong to but traditional rites in YORUBALAND has always been and must be performed by the custodians. They don't leave it to the uninitiated to perform. It's an abomination. And to further clear more doubt of yours about whether they must dress in accordance, YES THEY USUALLY DO. Day, night, anytime they do their thing, they dress for it because they're proud of their custom and tradition, and run the show in their required costume；old, young, teens, male or female of them. They bear their heritage with pride. Again, no traditional rite had ever been performed unless it was performed by the priest （always dressed for it）with or without the company of the royal circle. In that video, none passed as priest with the ram killer obviously more of a manual labourer. And contrary to your convinction, the priest has no point deceiving people or pretending to be otherwise. Most of their rites are always announced anyway and they do them without seeking interference from the public, whether at day or night.
Another point is that the clip that's the port of argument had chinese firm in them, not GERMANS. WHY did you have to sideline the main point of discussion to base your argument on another just because a couple of people mentioned hearsay about the German firm having done same over the same project？ The chinese, lebanese, indians, koreans are known traditionalists, and despite their numerous numbers of them in the country, you hardly would find them in the christian or moslem's places of worship if you have a close relation with these contractors, except they do their rites as their beliefs dictate before appearing at work, so why do you have difficulty in seeing the clip exactly as it came up online but you had to come up with conspiracy theory of it having indigeneous traditionalists whom weren't captured involved？
Remember, no one had claimed the host, the YORUBA, don't have traditionalists amongst them, especially those who performed rites but in that case, they ain't involved. that's what we want you to know. Infact, of what use is a pretext to any priest （which may make him dress anyhow）when he is obviously known to anybody in the neighbourhood as one？ I don't know of any tribe else but the traditionalists don't hide their belief/faith here. The only people you can accuse of deceit are the hypocrites who are members （not always the main priest himself）but because of their wealth, fame, position et all, don't participate in their public gathering at day time but only at night. Yet, that these would rather not attend doesn't mean the priests would leave ritual procession for uninitiated. The rites would still be performed by the group. In some cases where it's mandatory for these lots to participate, even at daytime, they end up participating.
LIKE I already pointed, you have a fixed mind set on a belief, so why the questions？ YOU asked questions and while the person answer, you contradicted with your motive and dragged up a debate which you try to center around your opinion only. It's absurd. If you aspire a debate, then all points especially the important ones matter. Debate is an enlightening argument which is aimed to bring forth more points than the opposition to win the context NOT CENTRE AROUND JUST A POINT OF A PARTICIPANT. My last reply to you. This is not to convince you as I already know your stand but to correct impression that you're making for a free mind to reflect on. Good morning.

RayRay06677:
Only gave you a proof of collaboration, site is at Nsit ubium, along uyo road. Massive work ongoing, you can visit. Plan is to reproduce that in all the federal constituency.

Netizen, travel and see, thanks

I didn't even know they've started and that's great. But like I posted earlier, the result of the previous and similar project in other states hadn't been convincing enough for me to trust this investment. It ends up adding more burden to the purse of the state in a short while as it always find it difficult to sustain itself whatever the commitment of the state governor. Rivers, Lagos and a couple of northern states tried such in the past and the governments eventually had to hand off the projects because it usually takes more than it gives. Unfortunately, the motive of establishment is to give back to the society more than it takes from it. That's smart investment.
Anyway, Enoh and Akwa Ibom are just starting, who says they can't succeed？ Who says theirs won't become the model others would turn round to emulate. So, let's see how it ends but then, goodluck to them.

Okay

Too much sabotages and you expect good returns. The CBN officials should rather design tracking model that scrutinizes banks domiciliary transaction records in relation with the amount of dollars sold to them. A transaction that has no traceable client and items of purchase and subsequently does not yield traceable delivery of such purchase should be questioned while the banking unit affected get penalized heavily for such infraction.
THE problem should be cut off of the source of distribution to the BDC. Such biz is illegitimate to start with, heaven knows how it became this big a sore.

Wow！

Noted