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You all should stop complaining and understand the importance of allies and alliances to the growth and future of kindgoms Great deals are made over handshakes through platforms such as this, the kind of deals you will never raise enough capital for from loans even if you use an entire kindgom as collateral.He is attracting opportunities worth way more than whatever he has donated In addition he is rebranding his people as a cultural sensitive, warm people with an approachable king as opposed to the general belief out there that that side of the country is filled with thugs with no leadership. This particular monarchy has a long illustrous history with blood and family ties to european monarchy.This king is wise.You all will do well to take note, leave him be and learn from him. Naysayers take a back sit please or save your whinning for the local beer parlour. |
Whatever consensus they want to do must sha be a christian from the south.Thats equity and fairness.Thats the only way we know all the madness in Nigeria at present is not to promote a religious dogma or a regions supremacy plan. Tinunbu remains a great Yoruba leader, but the fact that fielding him would mean a muslim-muslim ticket for APC to win is completely wrong for Nigeria at a time like this Lets see what comes out of all this.On this matter APC should do the right thing for Nigeria.Its a power shift to a Southern Christian President |
Interesting times ahead. Sounds like he is about to endorse Osibanjo.A christian from the south is the right move at this time. To promote National interest is to promote a southern side christian Presidency instead of a muslim muslim ticket. In a country such as ours this is VERY important.Its called ensuring diversity in the selction process |
Interesting read so far. This should be on front page, but then the good bad and ugly will takeover and the depth will be lost. |
feedthenation:Those who know his records should speak up abeg.He keeps getting away with it because no one challenges his records.How can only 1 man run down so many businesses. Do you know how many families that he has put out of work.Children who cannot go to school. |
Our greivance with him is not just that he failed in bussiness, its the how? Its a story of bizzare highhandedness, non challance and lack of regard for normal rules, structures and guidance of running bussiness including those that are designed to keep people safe. Ask Nicon staff to describe his management practices, ask former virgin nigeria aviation staff too.Ask the ex pilots and engineering crew.His aviation staff even went on strike due to his lack of regard for safety rules at the risk of the lives of many. And that is the man Ondo is recomending to safeguard our laws and National processes.Ondo why? |
And the girl that started the chant burn her? What about that one? Bevause she may have still been alive after the stoning? She may have been unconscious If they believe its okay to kill another for any reason then they should own up and be willingling to do time and face the consequences full time for that same reason. *Where is the girl that started the burn her chant *Where is the first person that spread the whatsapp message to others * any other specific culprits |
The real joke here is jimoh ibrahim and bussiness mogul in one sentence. Someone needs to do a piece on jimoh ibrahims midas touch with bussinesses ( this part is sarcasm for those who will still miss it) Lets look at all the grand businesses he bought over the years and what happened to them.Dont even get me started on his lack of decorum in public and in speech.His famous speech to mimiko who went to express his condolences to him at the loss of his mother comes to mind Please no one should let him run for any post in nigeria, Please save Nigeria from Jimoh Ibrahim. |
omenka:Amen. |
Who wrote this post,he or she is a terrorist sympathizer or supporter,how do you end such post with she looks healthy and well taken care of ,and they invited a Dr, are you okay at all? We see through you clearly,God does too.That pregnant woman should have been released.Both her and her baby now more than ever before,why was the MD released again,was it not on supposed compassionate grounds.This marrauding evil has no kindness or good in them ,no compassion.Do not try to whitewash it The kidnappers are evil through and through and so are their sponsors and supporters. You all think you will escape with eternity.Let me tell you the words of the one Yeshua, the one you call Isah the prophet. He said his disciples can withold the forgiveness of peoples sin. Whoever they forgive is forgiven and whoever's Sin they retain will not be forgiven With all the persons causing pain to these people and their supportters ,they even kidnapped a baby to be born in captivity ,you have all sinned against a one day child. Suppotters such as yourselves be careful, would this child and others ever forgive you? You have all heaped evil for yourselves and generations to come aince you do not fear God but do not ask us to understand that there is any good in the evil that you all are. As for your sins if you don't recant that stupid conclusion.I leave your to Gods hand, let him do with you as he pleases. |
There are no winners in that war. To many needless deaths have occurred,they could have been prevented.Its sad the war is still on, more lives may still be lost. |
For those who are not clear why people are so mad at the hotels response.The hotel aparently updated its response to this one after many bad reviews on google. It appears from reports their first response to her allegations was to insinuate she had a consensual affair with their gateman. That likely explains what they mean by its a personel matter. The hotel had no cctv footage of their corridors amd dared to shame a victim. A Nigerian girl(runsbabe or not) with enough funds to pay for her vacation alone was assaulted by your staff and your first public response was to claim it was consensual. Does that seem right? |
Ok ill speak from personal experiences and those of other colleagues Nigerians need to be very careful with these other African countries especially those of East Africa.Their police will attempt to extort you and dont get me started on the people...its best to stay professional with them at all times and keep everything recorded. They are moat likely revording you too anyway. Be smart and play safe always.You may need it Theres like an institutional hate against Nigerians going on there.Nigerians are not safe with those people.Either in carrear and definately not solitary travel. Theres this unhealthy rivalry against Nigerians who are absolutely unaware of this at first till the harm has been done.Its sad that its spilling onto the next generation and we definately cant let them go into an ambush such as this one unprepared. Was it not in SA a top shot Nigerian bussiness /carrear woman was murdered despite her room been locked? Was that one also a runs babe? What if she was a runs babe? She paid for a service and got what instead? Tell Nigerians especially the younger ones to be wary of East Africa ,and East Africans.I expect the country to address every reported greivance with a sledge hammer approach.What the Yorubas call Kilagbe,kile ju. Thats the only way to address this.It must never be taken as normal that our people or children will be made to feel unsafe anywhere in the world because of their Nationality. Lastly thank you to those Nigerians and well wishers that left 12,000 comments on their google review pages.I'm proud of you all thats poetic justice, caise it appears to be the only thing they care about. The hotel should not only be toast their tourism sector must shake from our wrath. That statement from the hotel was the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. |
Is this true? If this is true. Then Nigeria finally and trully has hope. If he wins go and buy all the Naija stocks you can grab. May God be with us all. (Amen) |
PeachtreeReside:Nnamdi kanu famously called for strategic targets in Lagos to be taken down and lagos was seriously under siege. 280 brt burnt in a day And he was not even in Nigeria to suffer the aftermath. Lets not get started on needless deaths in the east ,how is that right? |
Thank you for this post.You have done your people a great service.Kare omoluabi. Others can help us with the names and posts for ud to report. Give us a timeframe to report.I will find time and hopefully 5 other people to join in reporting.That should work if we all do so within set time. |
When last did you plant flowers? |
FreeStuffsNG:Nice write up. Sounds suspiciouly like a form of George Orwells Animal Farm anthem."Beasts of England" |
For those who are willing to examine the matter again for the sake of the avoidance and misscariage of justice ,here are the challenges the ifs-could sylvester have been saved? Could sylvester have been delirious Could the 5 boys be innocent of murder? Could the 5 boys be guilty of bullying Could the school or anyone else be guilty of cover up The key word here is evidence.if you are cursing and shouting this part is not for you,it is for elders,the mature,the righteous those who want truth to prevail. only then can we collectively define guilt and make sure it is spelt out so it never happens again in our land. that is the way out o this grief. All accusations of those boys must stop and anyone with any evidence should speak up or you forever bear in the guilt of the matter. Those are my thoughts,I apologize ahead I may not have free time today to reply to comments |
There are 5 stages in grief. Denial,Anger,Bargaining,Guilt and Acceptance The stage dont necessarily come in any order,they may come at any time,and one may spend as long as they need to on each phase however it ends with acceptance. The Oromonis and Nigeria as a whole have expressed anger, and we all appear stuck in the anger phase. Angry that a child so young has gone However there is this danger no matter how slight it is we must all explore it, that in this collective grief over the late sylvester we may be condemning the lives of 5 young men,and their house masters. If there is any doubt at all that they are not not guilty we must pause our anger and bargain in this grief,but to refuse to move from anger in the event where lives are at risk (young lives for that matter,probably innocent ones ) that would be a shame to all of us. That means we want 5 boys sacrificed on the alter of jungle justice to appease our anger and grief. What kind of people would that make us? what kind of family would that make the oromonis? |
The response Public response: Jungle justice has moved from the street to social media,there was a clamour for justice,but the institutional one,there was public outcry for the school to be burnt,the 5 boys found and harmed,there were calls for protest at the school,e.t.c The parents at this time had not even reported a case to the police,attention was drawn to this,the oromonis filed a case , it appears to be a murder case against the 5 boys, The school: The school conducted its preliminary investigation as it should and ruled,there was no report or evidence of bullying against the victim.Neither the Late sylvester of his sister who attended the same school had reported at any time to anyone he had been bullied. 3 of the boys sylvester mentioned were noted not to be around at either the time of the said bullying,or football or both not all were boarding students,this part is very very important, because the key fact we are all using is the late slyvesters dying confession The Goverment and the NPF- Despite their clear knowledge that a coroners autopsy is the only ground to charge or file or even investigate for murder(lawyers in the house help with the investigate part) they had these boys,and 2 of their house masters remanded in Nigerian Juvvy and Jail for invetisgation for murder,their passports were seized too.They were branded as possible murders to the entire world |
The background medical perspective I am going to write this part as simply as possible so we can all follow; Sepsis means there is bacteria in the blood. This results in the bacteria spreading all over the body, Any basic infection that has a bacterial background if not treated can turn to sepsis, so a simple cough and catarrh, boil, diarrhea, pimple, witlow, leg wound, anything caused by bacteria can lead to sepsis, the key word though here is when not treated. When it has reached the blood we call it septicaemia-sepsis in the blood. Sepsis can affect all organs when not treated, and this will lead to eventual failure of that organ. the kidneys present with pus in the kidneys (pyelonephritis) ,the kidenys may and commonly fails,with or without pyelonephritis, the lungs may present with bacteria in the lungs,(pneumonia), the brain (bacterial meningitis) ,the liver liver failure e.t.c. It also leads to rapid reduction in the Red cells, what you call blood level. Renal failure and low blood especially to the brain can cause delirium, (its like what yorubas call iranran commonly seen in malaria,) that is to tell you delirium is pretty common in childhood illness ( we will come back to this point later).This means the person may jumble up facts together,they may be true,half true or not true at all,the words said in delirium should be taken with a pinch of salt. Sepsis usually arises from poor treatment ,either the antibiotics are not right for the strain of bacteria, or the dose is insufficient ,not used correctly, or not used at all.It requires Intravenous antibiotics,so you are sure the right dose is getting directly to the where the bacteria is, it must be given at the right time, and progress followed strictly to ensure treatment is working In this day and age of antibiotics,no one should die of sepsis Ankle injury could be , a sprain ,or a fracture, Treatment is resting the area and making sure a patient rests it for a while,that is why you apply casts even where there is no fracture.Some drugs to reduce swelling must be administered . If this is not done it gets worse. We now know the late young man had both sepsis and an ankle injury with no treatment Black substance in stomach, it takes less than 48 hrs or the stomach and intestine to clear whatever a person swallows,if a black substance was seen on autopsy more than 7 days later, where did it come from? and could this have been the black liquid that the child refered to? |
I woke up this morning with a promise to myself to write a piece and publish on Nairaland. The Piece was to have a title; Slyvester Oromini; the collective grief and shame of a Nation Since I do not have time to reply to comments if i do make an original post,This post will just have to do. My qualifications to write us this include been a medical Dr,a Governance system administrator,a speaker of truth and an elder in the community based in Nigeria This is the perspective I choose to put out there off my own volition. The background scenario 1- Sylvesters parents were summoned to pick up their Son who presented at the sick bay with an ankle injury and some other symptom which we are all not clear of. The school identified there was a sick child that needed further care in the custody of his parents.It took said parents 2 days to pick u the child 2.The injury reported by the school was an ankle injury,which goes against later claims by the father that he sustained injuries and possibly the ankle injury from belts and kicks all over his body,no welts(line on the body from belts were seen,no soft tissue swelling on the body was identified on the xray from the kicks) only the ankle injury,why just the ankle? ,which ironically is more in keeping with a football injury. 3.He was not treated immediately as advised by the school,he however had some time spent on an xray,some hot balm, and massage, during some days spent s in the south west before the warri trip by road.It appears from diverse narratives this took about 2 days,during which we have no record of the most basic full blood count,or any other test save the xray,requested for at whoose request ,(not clear) but no medical Dr or Hospital has taken responsibility at this stage,over 48 hrs later 4.Said boy with ankle injury and unknown illness travels for 6-8 hrs plus traffic time by road with an ankle injury,arrives warri limping.Still no record of Full medical care evidenced by laboratory investigation and an attempt at a diagnosis in any hospital, although we do know his liver was enlarged which is a symptom in many thing from malaria to sepsis, We have now learned that a particular hospital that would have been used had no bed space, please note that money was not the problem,some time appear to have been spent in church though.Amount of time not clear however there was No record of any treatment or tests received save antimalarials ,xrays ,hot balm and massage throughout this illness so far to the best of our knowledge 5.Lastly we see and hear of pictures of a very sick child with bloated body parts,peeled lips, and a dying testimony of been beaten by school seniors and made to swallow something black and not having played football.This appears to have been at least 1 week after the child left school with an ankle injury and other unclear symptom which did not show on his body physically.He had no other treatment so far to our knowledge save the antimalarials,hot balm and massage. 6. A pathologist was contacted in warri to establish cause of death,we are not sure of what he did so far ,however we know he opened the late sylvesters stomach and identified a black fluid (more than 7 days after his initial complain in school) and concluded he had corrosive..... not sure of the exact words, as the Oromonis refused to tender his report for investigations at the inquest,and someone mentioned somewhere with a link as evidence his preliminary report has been changed. 7.This led to a spiral of events that led to the Orominis (armed with the dying confession and pathology evidence)accusing the school of bullying which led to his death,on the basis o which the Lagos State Government and the Police force had the 5 boys ,remanded and investigated on murder charges in a juvenile prison at christmass, (This happened under the watch o lagos) about 2 housemasters were also locked up in a real prison with real inmates,(not sure which prison at the moment) ,the school been closed around school exam times with all the students at home,and a social media mob calling for jungle justice on 5 boys and their families . Please note Nigerian juvenile prison is worse than your average prison abroad That concludes what we know so far of the background,anyone with corrections or clarifications can please do so because this becomes the basis for critical thinking and review of the response on this matter |
That said the case of bullying can still be opened and investigated properly under the child rights act.thatbis other students testify in a closed trial etc But not as a murder case.Thats the difference |
chigator2:A causeless curse will never stand.May the Lord (Jehovah) protect all who speak and seek the truth and justice on this matter Amen. That said You need to stop cursing and calmly state your case.Do you want the truth then focus on finding the truth I'm glad the social media murder by bullying case appears to be reducing for these boys and the focus appears to now be on a poisoning case. Let us all once again solemnly acknowledge the infamous role of the endsars protesters who thought it right to burn the only toxicology lab in west Africa during their recent end SARS protest.Those ones are complicit for why there cannot be a toxicology lab from Lasuth except it is flown abroad. Also thank the protesters for burning an MRI in lokoja so we know it's a protest thing in Nigeria. But still in the spirit of ensuring we search for and speak the truth.Let us all try to wait for a toxicology result if any was sent abroad and it should have been.if it wasn't why did they do so? That's a gap that ought to be condemned as it would have addressed doubt such as those you rightly have . That said do remember it took how many days (not sure but it appears it took at least 5 or days , estimated from the narrative of 2 days from late pick up from school, 1 day with cousin ,1 day travel time,at least 1 day in church or massage parlour or both,at least 1 day in the hospital) from the supposed swallowing of a substance to his eventual demise. What would one really still expect to find in the stomach from the supposed poisoning by school bullies? Will black fluid from the previous 5 days -6 days still be in his stomach? Especially if he had been eating, drinking and clearing bowel quite fine for 5-6 days? Could the narrative of a black fluid have come from a more recent event close to the time of his demise? Could the child have been delirious and mixed it all up? Doesn't also change the fact that it doesn't rule out he had a black liquid 5 or 6 days earlier.The issue here is the evidence and the truth.I repeat 3 of the boys he mentioned for said day were said not to even have been there so what is the truth? I understand this story may be close to home for you. I understand the anger and grief. It was right for his parents to push for justice based on his words.I agree and support them on that. But we need to be sure in your grief you don't condemn innocent people especially when the evidence points otherwise that would be a double tragedy Let's all seek the truth no matter how uncomfortable it is and ensure that innocent children do not suffer for a crime they did not commit I apologize ahead if I do not respond to your mentions.You see I cleared my desk this morning to address this matter on nairaland as a moral duty.I can't promise same again. May God grant you strength and peace at this trying time.stay strong. |
OmoEpe:Thank you for your response. I'm very sad for those boys who will obviously have to continue their lives abroad that everywhere they are asked have you ever been arrested for any charge they have to tick yes,plus their pictures are everywhere I am saddened at the thought that they are most likely innocent. 3 were not even there. That all this could have been prevented.That it happened in our time under our watch and people are silent ,worse still some are still calling for their prosecution despite no evidence.And those who should respond are been very careful of an outspoken ignorant majority. Where are those who speak the truth? |
I advice every christian and those who seek to know christian faith on matters such as this to study what the bible says on Justice and truth. You can do an internet search and see everywhere it shows up in scriptures.It matters.It defines a man and a Nation in physical and spiritual places I'll conclude my comments with the words of Christ. You all read Matthew 23 ,23 the "weightier matters of the law " see it as the more important parts. Do this without neglecting others. |
wirinet:DOWEN boys are the examples of why this must not happen again.Plus I heard they spent Christmas in jail Have you seen where people drank kerosene? They have inhalation and chemical burns in their oesophagus.In medicine it's advised you don't try to make them vomit so the same injury doesn't happen twice. To treat you stop them from eating anything that will pass food through the food pipe for a long while How did this kind of injury affect the tougher stomach according to the so called 1st report but left a clean smooth and unaffected oesophagus.So you get the point now right? It's not about what the body can clear it's about the injury it leaves behind When you say biological agents you mean like bacteria right,like maybe he drank something with pick a random one that causes sepsis say gram positive or negative? And there was no vomiting,no diarrhea he went home and was taken to church,a Dr saw and thought it could be malaria? It appears no FBC was done? And of all person's to blame for his death we pick 5 kids that may have given him a biological substance ( bacteria) to drink in school is probably the reason? The pathology report showed low blood to the brain.His words should have been taken with a pinch of salt if his Drs had done the most basic FBC.They may have realized this may have been delirium. I repeat 3 of those boys were said not to even have been around I have seen delirious patients mannny they say a lot.a lot. imagine that been the only evidence used to arrest and try an innocent man for murder not to talk of kids. I repeat bullying is different from manslaughter or murder.These are kids life on the block,do we not fear God? Even if you don't fear God are you not concerned of Karma? If Nigeria wants to investigate bullying as regards those kids that's a different case entirely but not trying 5 kids and their house masters and locking them in jail at Christmas based solely on the words of a child (may God bless his soul) who was sick,with what appears to have been low blood in his body and brain at the time. And the sad part is those who should have identified this at the most basic level did not,thereby causing a spiral of events leading here. This story was just a sad case of misjustice.Everyone should tread carefully with uterances now if they trully fear God.Before the excuse was we did not have the facts.Now we do.How we all choose to respond individually is between us and God |
Ficient:There is a God.Jehovah is his name and he rules in the affairs of men.My interest is what he would want in this matter.Seek Justice and speak the truth. On this matter let us all stand in that.All those that find they pushed the wrong narratives had better go and go and correct it Or you think the kids parents too are not calling on God.Even if they are not what kind of country do you want to leave for your kids A place where anyone can doom other people's children based on hearsay despite the evidence saying otherwise? Do you have kids.If those 5 boys were your children or the house masters your spouse what will you do? |
chigator2:It is because of comments like this the first autopsy should be brought out and analysed thoroughly .It should also be analyzed in lay men's terms.The first autopsy sounds suspiciously like something that should land that Dr in jail for his role in all this But we can't conclude till we have the details MDCN is a regulatory body.MDCN should address this |
[quote author=seborrhic post=110082515]I am not even discounting the possibility that it was even the first pathologist that told the parents indirectly not to tender his own forensic report,knowing how crooked a job he did. Why I am not sparing the first pathologist, eventhough there is no doubting his qualification,is that a pathologist,unlike medical professionals in other fields,knows a forensic report is needed because of disputes about manner of death and that all are police investigation cases and majority of not also all have to be defended in court where your report will pass through scrutiny from lawyers.So you must do a thorough,professional job,that can withstand such vigorous scrutiny. In this case,it seemed he was in a hurry,so just looked at one or 2 areas and arrived at a conclusion that he himself would now be embarrassed about,having been shamed by a colleague