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osazsky:
oga Nigeria is dead..let it sink in..in my office alone more than 70 persons done japa.u can't be more intelligent than them..I know say God go soon do my own

What of those wey dey abroad dey ask for money from those in Nigeria

Pls, I am not against JAPA. Most Nigerians have low IQ which is why they struggle a lot anywhere they are and even do crime in abroad.

I was only saying that there are Nigerians who have done same thing the doctor did in the UK here. Why do we paint a picture like every single person in Nigeria is broke? I can understand that Nigeria is not cool but come on, people still dey ball. Celebrating stuff like that makes it look like no single person in Nigeria has it which is a lie.

osazsky:
wat percentage of persons do content and people don't make money from content creation abroad..d question is wat has d government done to make d economy friendly for business...u cant be comparing a country where systems work and a dead country..in common south Africa a lvl ,8 worker goes home with 2 million naira while in Nigeria it's 84k the minimum wage of Switzerland is 2 m naira while in Nigeria govt is struggling to pay 30 k...people are suffering in Nigeria and it's a fact.if this doctor was practicing in Nigeria his salary won't exceed 200k...pay doctors 2m and let's see if they will still japa..nonsense

what u can buy for 10 naira in South Africa, u can buy it for 2 naira here.
While the economy is weak here, the life style is cheaper too.

100 dollars would get u more items than it could get u in SA.

My point here is not that Nigeria is great. My point here is that there are ballers here and that anyhwere u find ur self, make sure u have irresitable value to offer else, u will be low income earner.

osazsky:
yahoo guys with cash ba and hook up girls

U are funny! If only u know how much people make from content creation alone, software development, importation business, etc. People are rich in Naija baba. Open ur mind, free it up and try and be very valuable.

CreedElliot:
Lies. People who make it are quiet and not talking. Few are raking it

Dont mind that guy. He should go and see people with cash in Nigeria. Right there in the UK, there are still millions of low income earners.

Life is all about how u plan it. Millions in the US are also low income earners. Anywhere u find ur self, if u dont have value to offer, u will struggle. Offer irresitable values and be rich.

accordadoga30:
Dem don curse these people with crime.

U go another man land go dey rape their wives

What of ur people who commit fraud in another people land?
Abi what about ur people who do skull mining? Come on, come on, crime knows no tribe abeg. U are just petty and must be broke.

It is Nigerians crying over racism when Nigerians are tribal bigots
They do worse to them selves here

Iqtest:
We should let the police carry out it's investigation instead of these unnecessary display of shame,
Some criminal elements are trying to incite violence now

Why are u all always scared of protests? I mean, protest is part of democracy na.
Even in America, they protest. In France, the protests there few weeks ago was crazy and the govt didnt kill anyone. Protest is part of democracy and a way to mount pressure on the authorities.
If not for all these noise, this matter would have been swept under the carpet as usual.
Many deaths in this country that happened that if people protested seriously, the authorities would have fixed the reoccuring cause of death.

wirinet:
In effect you are advocating ignoring the electoral act passed by the national assembly before the conduct of each general election. INEC in his wisdom makes recommendations to be included in the electoral act. The national assembly debate and pass the act and the president signs it into law. You and the appeal court days INEC can decide to change the way it conducts elections few days to the elections and ignore the electoral act because it has the discretion on how it chooses to conduct elections.

About Abuja. Is it not a paradox that Abuja is a state in conducting elections only and not a state on how it is governed? The Governor of Abuja is the president, but is not required to obtain at least one vote from the residents and indigenes. How is that Democracy? Why should Abuja residents come out and vote at all in the presidential/Governship elections when their votes don't count at all?

That discreation is what needs to be stopped. That means the person who mount the INEC position as chairman is so powerful and can sell out the election to the higest bidder. It is either we transmit results electronically or we dont. There is no need to pass that as law and still give the INEC chairman the power to change the way results are transmitted even few seconds to the election or during the election.
This is 21 century and we should be doing stuff that can enhance the credibility of our elections. The current system gives the INEC chairman so much power and he may do stuff against who he hates.
This has been the problem facing the black countries. They make humans so powerful instead of making laws more powerful. When laws are more powerful, it becomes supreme above every other person.

Like I said earlier, the law is not sentimental. The law currently made Abuja special. There is no part of the constition that says that Abuja is a state only during elections and becomes a non state after election. That is very laughable. Like I said, this is a loophole that if it is in a developed country would have made the election canceled and rerun reconducted. The law is not sentimental.
Those who made that law, I am sure never saw it coming. Probably, didnt know that some day, a person from one region like that may win that city

What u are applying is sentiment and logics. It is same as saying that I am right to steal becus I am hungry

After this election, we need to decide if the electoral act is above the law or not.
If Abuja should be a state, if it chooses to be a state, then every right of Nigerian states should be given to it. If it chooses not to be a state, then, it remains so.
And lastly, we must insist on electronic transmission of results. No more, no less. We spend so much money not to do that. In fact, part of the reasons INEC was given so much money was due to her electronic transmission of results. How can we pay for something and u change it at last minutes.
Let do the right thing. The reason military coups are taking place in Africa is not becus of anything else aside faulty electoral system that is full of cheats. And the so called democrats not doing what they are supposed to do. That is what should be addressed, not the useless threats of sending forces to start war.

To avoid problem in Nigeria, our elections have to be properly fixed because what we saw during this last election is total madness. It can lead to war. We are just lucky in Nigeria, we shouldnt take the luck for granted.

Other things we must decide are:
Are non indegines free to vote anywhere in Nigeria or they must travel back to their states to vote.
These issues need to be fixed and fixed urgently. Nothing causes unrest like elections riddled in cheating

Righthussle:
I am totally against giving special status to FCT. In our various states, I want to ask, Is it a must to score 25% of the votes in the capital to become governor? Come on, make una dey calm down na.

Let me state it here before you mention me to ask whether Abuja is special.

Yes, Abuja doesn't have a governor. I know Abuja is special but to what extent is it special. The tribunal just made us to understand that when it comes to VOTES, Abuja isn't special. Just as it is not a must to score 25% of votes cast in any particular state to win the presidential election, it is not a must to score 25% of votes cast in Abuja to win the presidential election.

Law does not have sentiment. Law no dey do like this. Law is a law. Just as the law still gave the INEC opportunity to decide at anytime to transmit result electronically or not. This gave INEC upper hand to decide to change the format of transmitting result even few seconds to the election and INEC would win. Is that right? No. But unfortunately, law does not apply sentiment.

The law gave Abuja that special status becus it is seen as no man's land and belongs to all Nigerians. It sees Abuja as a place where all Nigerians have same and equal right and the sit of power. That is a loophole. If Nigeria is working, that alone would nolify the result for Tinubu.
Law is law! What u are applying is sentiment. If law is sentiment, law will not send a hungry thief caught for stealing becus he or she was hungry
Two things the law needs to fix here: Make Abuja another state or retain it as it is.
Secondly, mandate INEC to transmit result electronically to reduce malpractice. As long as the law still gives INEC the power to decide how to transmit result even if it is to change it few minutes before or after election, it simply means that the new electoral law is wack.
In law there is something called loophole. The Abuja case is one. The electronic transmission of result and still give INEC right to decide or not to use it is also a loophole.

IconicR:
Don't pity them ooo
They'll still find space to add sidechick

Once u are capable, nothing dey happen.

Ezewuzie01:
Sounds like propaganda until the case is actually instituted. FCT residents don't have two heads to be hold veto power over other citizens of Nigeria. Their case will be thrown out. All the justices of the appeal and supreme courts are indigenes of certain states and you can take it to the bank that none of them will ever accept the wrong interpretation that voters in their own states are inferior to FCT residents.

They Abuja should be allowed to elect their own governors instead of appointing a minister for them who can be from any state.

Grace001:
There is no point arguing with you, if you’re in the system you’ll understand. As for your colleagues brother who couldn’t pay his rent, can you tell us which country he is currently ?

There are countless homeless people in the USA. When Nigerians say abroad, they say japa.
The one who couldn't pay rent is in Europe. Can't reveal country as this is a public forum. Don't know who is reading.

stagger:
Don't mind our people. That's how they behave on Youtube and other social media channels. Offline, the same thing. Small thing, they resort to insult.

Mehn, Nigerians are always too, too, too aggressive, insulting and attacking everyone. Typical attributes of bullies. It is really hard to find a Nigerian you could exchange dicussions with online or offline without insult. They are always angry
Even driving on the road, always angery and bitter

Uchemus:
Your response is still senseless. No one cares about the dolls you have or where you work. My point was simple. Children in developed societies have better opportunities. Emphasis on opportunities. I never said every child abroad is sensible, neither did I say the kids abroad are better then the ones in Nigeria.

Next time you wish to respond to me, pls out on your thinking cap.

U were the one who responded to me. Like typical Nigerians, u resorted to insult. Omo, Nigerians weak me. Bro, are u not ashamed of your self? Like, you couldn't just respond to a stranger on a public forum without dishing out insults? Who is dragging with u? Is there a price tag to this?

Just calm down, read your comment again, are u happy with ur level of public display?
Bro, life no too hard. Dont be too frustrated, pls. You responded to me first, I replied. There was no need for all the insults.
My comment was targeted at some Nigerians who paint abroad as once u land, u blow and once u are born there, u are made. If u are not in that class, you had no reason to reply me in the first place. Next time, learn to be civil while discussing with anyone.
I never insulted u.Omo, una weak me for this country. Always angry, bitter, frustrated, aggressive
Kilode? Is there heat in ur house? Because I don't understand the whole insults

UnfairLife7:
Nigeria top the ladder of unemployment and even poverty in the world. Na only person wey spend decades for obodoyinbo without making it na him una dey see. Have you not seen those who make furtunes abroad? At least an average Americans are miles ahead and far better than an average Nigerians that cannot even afford 3 square meal.

If you think a poor man child in today Nigeria can make it without involving in crime or fraudulent acts then you're decieving yourself sir. That was in the past. Where son of nobody can become somebody in Nigeria. Not anymore. Millions of graduate are unemployed roaming the streets daily. Many households can't afford 4 square meal daily that i know not ear say. Most average Nigerians cannot afford those 200k and above tuition fee with 30k as minimum wage and high unemployment rate. Even those that are working are still suffering. Their take home hardly take them home due to hyperinflation.

No sane Nigeria will have the opportunity to US and will not make it. It is never possible. With any legit job. I mean any legit jobs you go make am. Only those who involved in crime to make fast money are foolish. Leaving Nigeria to US is a goodbye to poverty to an average Nigerians

Have u not also seen those who made wealth here?
Baba, dont misunderstand me. Abroadee started all these madness when they dish out mumu words like those in Nigeria are all dead hungery and f*olish. I mean, it is crazy. I even see them rubbish anyone who didnt migrate to Canada, UK or US. These are wack mentality.

For instance, my self, I am a software developer, I dont really need migrate to Europe, if I must migrate, I simply care about stuff like electricity, sane environment, and I can get that anywhere in the world once I can afford it. Then, if choose to get that in let say, Bostwana, Namibia or even move to a better estate in Accra, u would see Nigerian abroadees in the UK, rubbishing me and my choice. Can u see the mindset I am trying to correct?
Life is not all about making all the money in this world. Allow people breathe in peace.
And stop casting down at other people's choices. Tell people the truth about moving abroad. U must be skilled, valuable and useful to their economy to earn well and u must be ready to work ur ass out to meet up.
U guys wont pant these pictures to them and they move and begin to struggle.

BennyDGreat:
Many people don't understand one thing: Results and outcomes in life is MORE about the quality of decisions than location. As much as location determines a lot of things, YOUR DECISIONS ARE TOO POWERFUL and can even override disadvantages in your location

Thank you. This is what they don't understand and that is one core problem with Nigerians.

I know some abroad now, they are tired, it didn't work but can't come back becus of shame.
They got to abroad becus of the type of pictures Nigerians paint for them here that once they get abroad, they have made it in life.
One specifically has achieved nothing. Working life a machine and full of regrets. His story if like that for a lot of them too but he refused to return becus he would feel like a failure.
That is why many of them still go into fraud , drugs, human trafficking etc.
Omo, Nigerians with their wack mentality shaa.
If that wahala didn't burst out in Saudi the otter time, we wouldnt have known that there were many, many Nigerians who wanted to return home but no flight money.

These Naija abroadee promoters also make it look like everyone in Nigeria is dead hungry

UnfairLife7:
You don't compare US and other developed nations to Nigeria. An average naija pikin no get future that's the reality.

No one is comparing. But stop panting a pictuee of once u are abroad, u have made it.
My ex neighbor husband has spent over 20 years in the USA. He no still make am.
I was born an average Nigerian, today, I build stuff for clients around the world.
Nigerians must wake up from the reality that they need to work and not think that bread and butter and money are picked from any where. Stop deceiving people. A lot of Nigerians are stranded abroad now becus people like u made them think that once they get abroad, they have made it.
A lot of Nigerians abroad are struggling.

Grace001:
What some of you don’t know is that what your white client consider to be struggles is not the same compare to Nigeria man struggle. If you don’t get it forget it

And the Nigerians who struggle over there? Who are they?
What u also need to know is that what u kill ur self to do, most whites don't even care. U want to buy house, drive latest car, use biggest phone, buy all the lands, do they care about that that much?

Some of u paint it like every single one abroad has a great life. Come on, a lot of them have spent over 6 years abroad with nothing to show. Still borrow money up and down.
A staff member of mine sold her iPhone few months ago to send the money to her bro abroad to pay off his rent after he couldn't pay. This guy has spent years abroad. Abeggg.

Abroad is great. But u guys should stop painting this image of like once u are there, u have solved all ur problems.
Many Nigerians are still under paid abroad. Stop converting their earning to naira becus they surely would spend their earning over there.

Uchemus:
All youv written is just nonsense. An average chaild has better opportunities in the developed countries. That's undisputable.

All I have written is not nonsense.
U all paint it like once abroad, everything is fine.

Im working with a US company that is so eager in taking teens away from the street of America. I couldnt imagine the number of wasted teens and how it is a big issue. Baba, who no get sense no get sense.
Some of u just paint it like people pick money abroad, like people just wake up and see money.
If the opportunities are there as u paint it, there won't be a single struggling person abroad.

My last vacation, I was in the most of over 20 Americans. They are just regular average people financial wise. I even have dolls pass them and they complain so much about almost eveurthing with life and money

Ajione:
Is not only money that make people japa, some issues are settled, like security good road getting values for your taxes and when children is involved, your children future are secured.
Anybody trying to japa and thinking of becoming a multi millionaire or billionaire Na big mistake. But am sure once you are not lazy you will leave a comfortable life.
With the present situation in this country things are hard, salary Na pie but.
If I come to you now and I said I need 50k will you give me?
I prefer leaving this country than leaving like a prisoner in my own country.

So, every child abroad now has a great future? Like everyone automatically born or raised abroad is sure of becoming rich and useful to the society?
How una dey think sef.
Who are those drug lords in the USA, Europe, crime lords? Smoke addicts? Who are the struggling ones? I know how my whites client laments about life. I know how so many Americans hustles so hard to look if they can attain financial independence but many still can't. That is why inspirational speakers make a living well there.
The way some of u paint this abroad eh, u go think that once u are abroad, all ur problems are done.
Baba, that ur child is raised abroad is not a guarantee that he or she would be a responsible citizen to the society or family.

The way abroadee paint this thing eh. I know some abroad for over 6 years now, they still borrow money from some down here. I even borrowed one money last two weeks.
The koko is anywhere u find ur self, work hard and it can be anywhere.
Some of u even go as far as rubbishing anyone who is not in Europe or America or Canada. Omo, Nigerians have K leg mentality.

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Parachoko:
I'm surprise a Nigerian Army General can afford to own all that Properties

When Nigerian elites tell u about loving One Nigeria, this is what they meant. This is the so called Democracy. If the people revolt now and something happens, the US and her allies will begin to disturb the country to return to democracy. They won't talk now o.
So how rich a major general is in a country that has some of the poorest people in the world.

Acekidc4:
Give them Nine Months and after 9 months they refuse to hand over to a Democratic Process, then and then ECOWAS can unleash hell on those Juntas!!

The Juntas too just want to Loot their own share of the Country Wealth Ni. Nothing Special about them!!

Las Las Na the Mumu Remote control Citizens that will suffer for it.

The same democratic process that couldn't give citizens clean water for decades. Omo, who swear for Africans? Is Saudi practicing democracy? Or UAE? Even German chancellor can be in office for 16 years.
The so called democracy we do in Nigeria with wack elections or the one that can't provide citizens with electricity.
The people of Niger would decide what is best for them.

madridguy:
Paul Kagame should respect himself and take his leave now. You have been the president of Rwanda since the year 2000, the country is not your property, pass the baton to another person.
23 years is enough. Let others try their best too.

Have u said same to Saudi Arabia and UAE u all run to?
Is democracy the only system of govt? We change govt here in Nigeria, we don't even have electricity. Africans should preach good governance. The ex chancellor of Germany was in office for 18years.

Kingsmeal:
Kagame decided to Weaken his Own Military, at the expense of Rwanda rather than leave Office - this is the Kagame that Nigerian Governors just traveled several Miles to go and learn "How to run Govts from!"

After 23 years in office and claiming to have to turned Rwanda into Paris and Dubai, he is unable to leave Office for the things he has started to be passed on to the next generation...

Democracy is not the only system of govt. Saudi doesn't do democracy, neither does UAE. If he is performing, good. I don't know why Africans can't just come up with their own system that works for them.
The so called democracy that we practice in Nigeria, how far?

But how did u process their visa the wrong way? I mean their work visa?

toshiem:
While I have a strong affinity for unity, I believe that the act of dividing our nation could potentially lead us towards progress. Nigeria's challenges, such as extensive tribalism, election zoning, favoritism, the quota system in governance, and the selection of ministers based on regional representation, appear to be hindering our advancement.

That is the problem of Nigeria and if u carefully watch Europeans, they planned their countries in a way that would mitigate tribalism by having more of nations than states as countries.

According to research, countries that are nations tend to do better than countries that are state in formation. And those places where ethnicity maybe an issue where the countries are in state formats, the white run a system that help to give the ethnic groups identity and high level of separation from the central govt.

Winters23:


How can Africans be called illegal immigrants in another African country?

Becus they didnt come in with proper papers. Africans wont like to take the risks to fix their own countries but would like to migrate as illegal immigrants to countries whose citizens worked hard to fix. That is the problem. I would like to see more AFricans dealt with so that they can go back home and fight their leaders who are making them run in the first place. Those countries u run to, their citizens worked so hard to make it liveable.

madridguy:
How do you sleep with this kind of hatred? You are gone and nothing can be done. If you like go and hit your head on the bricks, Tinubu, a Yoruba muslim will rule you and your clan for the next 8 years. If you don't want that, pack your load and go to Niger or Gabon.

It is about who rule.. Baba, we want to enjoy life like people in Developed worlds where ur people run to enjoy. Una no dey tire to suffer? Them swear for black people?
Millions of you sleep without electricity under heat every night, yet, all u care about is ur tribes man to rule. Na juju dey worry black people.

Go and check out those countries with such military rules, their leaders have been organizing who rigs it all type of elections, after spending billions of tax payers money, these us*less leaders will organize useless elections where elections are conducted like pry school elections.
These same leaders will get into power and milk the people dry. Take a look at Nigeria, I'm using generator now to build software for my foreign clients. It is a shame that after so many decades, we still can't have stable electricity. Like, it is a shame.
Poverty stares at u every corner. I get scared to drive out becus u would see poverty everywhere.
Prcactically all state capitals are in mess.
Nigerians provide their own water,
Nigerians provide their own fire service
Nigerians provide their own electricity
Nigerians provide their own security,
Nigerians provide their own Healthcare
Omo, u wonder what is then the benefit of the so called democracy

Demoracy in Nigeria is simply a system designed for the wicked elites to keep eating fats. Go and see how much those military generals get as retirements, those national assembly members, ur past leaders, ur present leaders, governors, etc. This is why they can die for democracy. It doesn't favour Nigerians. Just favour the ruling class and their families.

We have told Nigeria politicians to change the system of govt we run here, they refused. This system won't work. It only make the elites richer.

yorke1:
In all military form of government is still not the best form of government. In a short while, the military boys will start looting and all form of human rights abuses will start taking place.

Say no to military government.

It is same with democracy. Human right abuses in Nigeria is way too much.

StrongAlphMale:
The earlier Africa is recolonize, the better for us all.

God forbid bad thing. It was the colonization that brought us mess. And everyone must not practice democracy. Saudi Arabia doesnt practice democracy, it is a country run by a single family, same as UAE, and the list goes on. Same with Russia, Germany style of democracy is funny. What Africa needs is not really democracy, Africa simply needs to plan her borders by her self based on nations that align in terms of culture, langauge, heritage, etc. This way, u would have proper nation building. The current system the white brought was simply designed to work for the white interests.

What type of democracy do we run? The type u have in Nigeria? Is that a democracy? Democracy to loot fund? Abeg. Africans better deide their own system based on their own unique personlities.