₦airaland Forum

Zahra29:
Here I am speaking for my "master" again, but do people know that the NHS was founded in 1948
It's not just immigrants putting pressure on the NHS.

{Then how is it the case that it is ONLY the immigrants that are being double-taxed to find the NHS? }


Fact is the NHS would struggle even from the British population alone,

{Does that not call for a critical appraisal of the system and an overhaul to make it fit-for-purpose?
Does that not therefore mean that the British citizens too should contribute their own quota to make it work?
Does that make it justifiable that the solution is to tax immigrants more, while not taxing Citizens?}

So it's not about blame or discrimination, but one of practical solutions.

{Practical solution is to gaslight immigrants?
To me, a practical solution would entail increasing UK exports. Improving UK manufacturing. Revamping UK industries. Investing. Getting a lo more of UK citizens to get off their back side and work.}

Or would you rather the other solution where you don't have to pay IHS

{I would rather have that I pay health tax only ONCE, not pay twice.}

Peerielass:
No need to be rude!

You are assuming this BC has a child lol. What happens to those that are childless either by design or choice or those that rarely fall ill hence never needing the NHS. What category do they fall into in your analogy? These are people that have been paying taxes since graduating from Uni at 22 and are now earning significantly higher income that precludes them from[b][/b] claiming any benefits. I bet they are more hard done in than you and your IHS surcharge.

See that immigration surcharge as the price you pay for all the additional benefit you receive for being in the UK. You can sleep with your eyes closed at night, no noise pollution, you don’t have to pay N1million per term to educate your children, 24hr power supply, excellent transport links, need I say more?

koonbey:
No, actually, the burden is on you as the person who asserted.

Justifiability is an inherently subjective term and there's no possibility of logical evaluation if you don't supply objective standards against which the actions in question can be judged.

But we all know why you cannot mention any countries, and it's because you know your arguments won't stand up to scrutiny if compared to what's obtainable elsewhere.

Therefore they hold no water other than as an outlet for whingeing, which you're entitled to and which is frankly understandable, so I'll dip here with a reminder that just because something is onerous or unfavourable to you doesn't mean it is unjustifiable.

Zahra29:
Not in all cases. For example if they had a spouse or partner who wasn't working a minimum number of hours, their child wouldn't qualify for 30 hours.

There's also a 2 child cap on the number of children you can receive child benefits for.So a British family with 4 British children would only be able to claim on the first 2. That's not fair on the family or children, but this is what was introduced by the Tory gov, along with other painful austerity measures on their citizens.

Peerielass:
In your own words, it’s a lie from the pit of hell that you do not have a choice in the whole process/outcome. You chose to come here and it’s the government’s prerogative to raise revenue anyhow they deem fit. Simples!

For your info and others who are not aware. Not all British citizens are entitled to benefits. With that £59k salary you used in your illustration, you will not be entitled to kobo from DWP. Benefits are means-tested which means your eligibility to claim depends on your level of income and capital including savings.

koonbey:
Compared to which country?

Nigeria? US? The Nordics with their broader social net but much higher taxes? Ghana? Canada?

You've not said anything other than show your salary, unless you can cite the countries where you believe there's better value for money in light of taxes paid/social services received, especially as an immigrant.

You people are making it difficult to engage this topic with your appeal-to-emotion arguments that lack any contextual facts and figures evidence, and that is making responses seem like one just wants to to bash Nigeria, which I am not, as the country has many good parts that I am immensely grateful for.

Anyway, as I said, name the country for your comparison and then we can evaluate if this is justifiable.

Peerielass:
Not sure what point you are trying to make here. Every tax payers money is pumped into NHS, Education, Welfare, State Pension etc irrespective of whether they are BC or immigrant. How about BCs who dont have children (by choice) or those that chose to educate their kids privately - should they begrudge the govt for using their taxes to fund other people’s children’s education? There are also BCs that have never used the NHS before. Some of these folks also can’t claim benefits (not even child benefit which is the easiest to claim) because they earn above the threshold for benefits.

If anything this funding analysi shows the UK government is accountable and transparent. Do you have any idea what the Nigerian government uses the tax payers money for?

Edited to add… when all the new immigrants on this thread eventually get their ILR and citizenship, then you will realise that the job of the guys at Downing Street is to screw you over with their fiscal policies and it’s irrelevant whether you are immigrant or BC, we all have a common enemy.

Lexusgs430:
Now some children in the UK, after the LGBT brainwashing lectures........

Are now deciding to identify as animals.........

Gburu ti wa fa igboo bayi ọ ...........😜😭😂

Viruses:
One thing with people that don't like Christianity is that they spread the word faster.

Please go on and on.

justwise:
Again you are an Alarmist, a closed minded one in that matter, any idea the number of Sexually Explicit verses in the bible? We encourage our kids to read it back to back if bible was writen in this current climate that book will be banned and the author will be jailed.

Efep:
Hello good morning guy's , I'm on the skilled worker visa and 🌞, I've been in the UK for more than three months nw , but my employer is yet to give me job 😔, is there anyway out, who can recommend any agency that I can apply to get job, I live in Greenwich.

lightnlife:
Anyone following the Nottingham story?

Horrifically terrifying!

It was even more disturbing hearing the suspect is a man from West Africa.

Teedol:
Lemonade/ Lemfi is showing exchange rate as £1=949.

Is their a more reliable app with a higher rate? Lemonade is very reliable don't get me wrong.

Lexusgs430:
Till they spring a surprise visit on you (does not always happen)........

And in your living room, is your flat screen on the wall, enjoying EastEnders.........

babajeje123:
Ha, do I have the liver?

Viruses:
How can someone avoid the avoidable with the use of this iptv?

It it by watching only Nigerian channels and avoid channels in the UK like BT Sport?

hustla:
They do, but not by hand

For instance, the first and only time i went to work at a care home, we used hoists; something like a mini human crane

That hoist thing to me is very dangerous cos if you do not take time to strap the patient in well, they can fall and hit their head

I have attached a picture of what it looks like

eyesaswide:
Hello All,

Who knows any company that can help me waybill stuff from Uk to Nigeria at a good rate.

Pacypatty:
Exactly.
The guy don remove mind.
Thanks

missjekyll:
Abido Contains clobetasol which is a steroid. Not to slight you , lexus but this cream is bad news.
Steroids cause paper-thin skin, darkening of skin in patches, diabetes, Hypertension, weak bones, decreased immunity, frequent falls, weight gain especially face and abdomen. You may want to stay away from this.

Before you buy this, you should probably know all of this as well. It's called informed consent.

mrnairaland1:
Hello great minds. I will like to know the possibility and ways to convert dependent visa to work visa before the expiration of the primary applicants first year. For ILR sake, it is better to move to work visa on time instead of waiting for 2 years post study visa (I read somewhere that the 3years journey doesn’t count for ILR) and later look for sponsorship which means another 5years journey. I need information on how best to make a smooth transition. @lagosismyhome @justwise and other great minds let me tap into your ocean of knowledge on this

Regex:
Honestly, it is so appalling. I would never marry nor advise anyone to marry a Nigerian and bring her over to the UK or any gynocentric country.

lightest:
Point of correction, I am no a Baale of Norwich and I don't even have friend I only try survive where ever I found myself. Advice appreciated with thanks

fatima04:
Exactly, those together are still struggling with childcare, bills and breaking even and even having building asset portfolio in a system that is designed for you to be reliant on them. Wish the wife was on NL reading all this sha

Mrtruetalk:
@lightest listen up if you have ears.

Most people typing up and down here know how they manage their homes, some men even know how they prostrate to their wives in the middle of the night when no one is there to make things work. So far there isn't any case of domestic violence here, you have to go back home and sort issues out with your wife for the sake of your kids. You are over 40 years old and i believe you should be wiser to know that you don't fully depend on the advise you seek from social media platforms. Refuse to be a victim of the system. You and your wife have come into a system and you need to be strong to pull through the system. Yourself and 3 members of your family must have sacrificed at least £10K to come on this Tier 2 with renewal fees coming up soon and i believe this should be your focus at the moment not you leaving home. The tier 2 system is not an easy one. You both literally work for the system for the said 5 years with huge financial sacrifice. Your MRS is probably tired from work as a nurse and needs your support but unfortunately maybe you are adding your drama as the Baale of Norwich as per your previous post. You probably are not looking to develop yourself either. Additionally, you might no longer appear attractive to your wife, you need to look to improve in all ways and set the example. Many things might be involved for her to lose interest in you. Talk things with her and you would find an answer. Legal fees don't come cheap. I would advise you don't even think of that route.

fatima04:
@lightest so sorry you are going through this. Going through your previous posts shows the family just relocated in 2020 to join your wife here and sad to know within such a period things has disintegrated to that level.

One thing I would like to add is involving her family as well or someone she listens to to resolve the issues between you guys(caveat as long as its not DV), if she has a good relationship with your family, let them know as well.

Asides from the visa issues, please consider your 2 kids who will be affected in this situation. Remember they are in a new/strange land and now loosing their familiarity with their known household unit, and their mental health is also important.

Please set aside pride and try and resolve. If possible engage therapist as well to help sort out your issues for you to know what is truly wrong in your union.

All the best.

dustydee:
Please what is the Covid 19 process for travelling to Nigeria? Any links?