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Xixtie:She was referring to the general insecurity in Nigeria that has sunk tourism because the security architecture is moribund, operatives distracted by helping themselves to the spoils of a black economy. Oh youth, if you don't know the how, what and why of these protests what are you doing there. |
Why should the Chief of the Army be making a request directly to the President over and above the CDS and the Security Council. That is wrong and he should be told that in no uncertain terms. He cannot arrogate to himself as the head of just a branch of the Armed Forces the responsibilities of the security of the state. Anyway this is what you get when institutions are personalised and individuals begin to see themselves as not only bigger than the very institutions they are privileged to lead but even bigger than the country they claim to serve. It will take decades for the Armed Forces to recover from the contortions we have seen these past years. |
Much ado about nothing. For folks of obsessive materialism. I use four phones and two tablets, none of which is an I-whatever. Samsung works just fine for me. |
superamoled:What surprises me is that this is just making news half a century after being publicly proclaimed. The youth apart from advocacy require education, historical education to help their cause. People seriously need to know how Nigeria became like this if they will find a way out of this. |
nextstep:That is the misunderstanding you folks keep on having. Big basket, small basket is still putting products before the process. That is not restructuring. When you seek to restructure you have no idea of what the outcome will be. It is not a deatination but a journey that never ends. The 'talking' as in this case will be about WHY are these things are not working. Who is comfortable with these things not working and why. Your position is simple. They are like that and can never be changed. Some other person will say, well it doesn't matter if life is hard, I can manage. While others will just walk away from Nigeria because they simply cannot tolerate it. These are three distinct value systems that a call for restructuring seeks to put around a table of discourse with the aim of uniting them into one that works for all so that we can seek the closest definition of what a typical Nigerian knows about public utilities for example and expects of service delivery. Before the SARS protest there will have been Nigerians absolutely in love with that organisation, some disinterested, sime absolutely appalled and horified, the same country, the same people. How can that be. Some are protesting against its removal. How can any leader no matter how well intentioned succeed in leading a people with such discordant values. Get your values straightened out, get your horses pulling in one direction and the chariot of state will progress swiftly, leadership becomes a breeze. Restructuring is not about goverment, it is not a goverment agenda, it is about ALL Nigerians. It should be a peoples cry. When the people decided to come to build a tower to heaven, even God was worried as to what could be accomplished. All those things you mentioned can never see positive realisation without a framework. |
nextstep:Folks like you keep on misunderstanding and misrepresenting the terminology 'restructuring' in the context of Nigeria. Every time it is spoken people rush to conclusions, tangle themselves in zero sum arguments and tie themselves in impossible twists. Just consider it as simple as this: 'ing' is merely a 'present participle'. It qualifies action or motion. It is not a destination or a conclusion. The call for restructuring is a call to talk as in talking, a call to walk as in walking. Nigeria is a country that appears to be unable to connect its varied interest groupings to work out solutions to its problems. It cannot agree on practically anything that affects the lives of the ordinary citizens leaving this country always split between the contented and the aggrieved on everything. Things such as what the definition of corruption is, how to develop its people, the role of church and state, and so many more issues of state, of citizens and of life. The present structure always presents winners and losers amongst Nigerians. This country has never seen peace since the white man came this way. Despite all the institutions of goverment established to create social cohesion there are red lines everywhere that citizens just cannot cross to further their sense of wellbeing. Let me ask this. Is it inherently evil to seek common values amongst all citizens?. Is it evil to come round a table and agree what is right, equitable, fair, just and progressive? The process of keeping our desires CONSTANTLY under review is called restructuring. It is not a conclusion on any agenda. Restructuring recognises that there will never be a perfect Nigeria so like a driver our hands have to be on the wheel at all times making slight adjustments CONSTANTLY to prevent the country drifting dangerously. |
nextstep:Folks like you keep on misunderstanding and misrepresenting the terminology 'restructuring' in the context of Nigeria. Every time it is spoken people rush to conclusions, tangle themselves in zero sum arguments and tie themselves in impossible twists. Juat consider it as simple as this: 'ing' is merely a 'present participle'. It qualifies Action or motion |
Looks terribly overweight. |
You can see what I say constantly about Nigeria. The lack of unified values. Something brought us to this terrible point in our history and until we address the roots we will just be running around in circles. When I say ONLY RESTRUCTURING can change the fortunes of Nigeria, I know exactly what I say. When I said corruption was a structural issue, most Nigerians thought otherwise, saying it was a leadership issue or a class issue. Some even say it is a religious issue. So they treat the symtoms leaving the causatives to roam free, which is a lack of unified values.. Today the battle against corruption in this lofty administration is lost and the people have moved on to another structural problems, the criminal justice system takes its turn in the crosshairs. The new lightning rod is SARS, and as usual the poorly informed citizenry are certain that 'remove SARS' and 'reform police', (known to government as rename) and all other things shall be added unto Nigeria. But we can see the real problem lashing back. Once again there is no consensus on how Nigeria should exist. Removing SARS and reforming government institutions is seen as a THREAT to some...fellow Nigerians. These protesting are not even the ones to be concerned about. It is the silent ones who have stamped agendas on the nation for years and who are watching from the safety of their 'command centres' right now and who will act in the dead of night to ensure the status quo remains alive. Those are the folks we refer to when we speak restructuring. On this matter they will let the dog out of the house for a walk, but they will keep it on a leash and ensure it doesn't begin too socialise with other dogs in the neighbourhood. It is to these people we refer to when we speak restructuring. Restructuring is not an item, a product, a law or a destination. It is an idea, a philosophical view, a way of life, a journey of discovery. It doesn't have agendas and zero sum games. It is not about government, but is an attitude whereby people engage with people to share common visions, aspirations and to share common fears and concerns so that there is equity, peace, justice and solidarity amongst all nationals of Nigeria. So that we can finally define what corruption is, or what a proper police service should be which in law and in practice is acceptable to all. This is the restructuring I know. Without it Nigeria has no positive future. That I guarantee. |
holaralph:Great script writing. However you are guilty as the other side for distracting and sidetracking the real narrative which surround the structural issue of our criminal justice system as a whole of which SARS is just a bit part. When war becomes comedy, it is time to go home. |
Same nonsense, different captions. Goverment playing scrabble with its ignorant citizens. |
I agree to one statement of his amongst much hogwash: 'There must be a face to the struggle...' Regrettably I understand why this isn't. The goverment which he serves and is a part of has cut off all channels of communication with the people by destroying the structures of democracy and terrorizing the citizenry. The National Assembly which should be the first safety valve of society no longer represents the peoole but is an effectual mouthpiece of the Executive. If they worked the way similar institutions worked the world over, things will not get to this climax. The Judiciary which in my opinion should be in charge of the police or at least have a strong say in how law enforcement works is also in the bag of central goverment, so today you will not find a single judge who dares act against officers of the law because they too see themselves subservient to the Executive that runs the show, and not as collaborators or as directors within the crimunal justuce system. And then what has happened to the various activists and CS groups who should be running this anti police software on their platforms for effective reformation. They are all silent, cowered by a goverment that cannot tolerate dissent on any matter no matter how benign. The sum of this all is that goverment is completely out of touch with the realities surrounding the country and its people it claims to serve and the people themselves will not succeed in getting their expectations met because they are in reality not the barbarians hammering at the gates of Rome. The goverment is comfortable. And unfortunately still dishing out its juvenile solutions to deep rooted problems while keeping a keen eye on certain red lines of 'feudalistic' control it will not give up....ever. No one will win anything here. SARS changed to SWAT is just crosswords or scrabble played in the corridors of power. The folks in both sides talking about remuneration should just stop bothering us with noise. What has money ever solved in this nation since independence. We need deep thought on both sides and a desire to get to the root of why this country simply cannot function properly. The police woes are just symptomatic of a wider and deeper malaise in the way Nigeria was set up 'not to work'. |
Foookaaa:They are hellbent on destroying everything still standing in Nigeria before 2023. As if it is our fault that the Constitution pulls the plug on this 8 year long nightmare. |
Golan007:Next it will be Femi Adesina as the next INEC Chairman....then.you folks will be wondering why you encounter so much headwind in governing this country, why citizens donot cooperate with you, why all the forces of failure are cheering you on and why all the indices of life and living in Nigeria is tanking. Continue stirring up controversy day after day and undermining your credibilily. History is already written. Leadership in its purest, qualitative form is completely lost on this administration. Not a single iota of wisdom, fidelty and equity is applied in any plan or act. Just doing things anyhow. Failed, moribund administration that insists on completely destroying what is left of the fibre of egalitarianism before its time is up leaving the country in ruins and far worse than it met it. |
This is what I am saying. The reason why I really can't come to terms with what is happening. What exactly is the purpose of this whole drama. Is it a revolution or a protest? Are people looking for something or do they want to give something, to give Nigeria direction. Because if it us a protest like we are familiar with the NLC type thing, it is merely an expression of anger, the theatrics. Nothing fundamentally changes. That is, the goverment goes through the motion without in reality any movement happening. They give with one hand and instantly take it back with another because they still command the narrative. A revolution on the other hand is a people centric, citizen driven narrative where the goverment in power listens and acts on the mandate of the people. The people decide what happens. What I have said countless times is that those protesting have not made any proposals as to how to get a proper police service working. They still leave it to the same goverment that has birthed and sustained a failed system to drive the narrative and reform itself for a new one. How can that be termed a success. What do we expect to happen. Old wine in new wineskin... musical chairs. Folks, if the police, law enforcement and the criminal justice system is to change for the better it can only be birthed by ideas coming from the people who have invested in reforms and they will do well to reject anything coming from goverment at this time which doean't have their input or else in five years the drama will repeat itself. You want to be free of sin and are receiving tips from the devil?....is this SWAT nonsense a joke or what. Is that the problem of law enforcement in Nigeria? Honestly I don't just waste my time with nonsense. |
That I know for a fact and I am in absolutely the same position so can understand his disinterest. He was a vocal antagonist of the activities of the police in Rivers State long before he became governor and after that he had running battles with the police, the mobile police force and the various special units used by the 'Abuja people' to subvert his goverment at every turn and especially in the run up to the 2015 elections. So I can understand his amusement when folks castigate him now. On my part, I have always advocated for the restructuring of Nigeria as a panacea for most social ills and the failures of institutions after institutions. A good number of fellow citizens who chastised all the way up to a week ago are suddenly champion crusaders for reform, their faith in 'supermen' suddenly vanished like cool candy in a scorching desert. And I'm like.... wow, what happened. Where have you folks been all these years. Wike sure feels the same... completely befuddled. |
So that it will be interpreted as a religious uprising by those vulnerable to sentiment. We all know what will happen if the church gets involved. America did not then have the kind of fervous religious dichotomy Nigeria is grappling with. We can already see the ambivalence towards the protests in the north. Add religion to the mix and the protest will surely go south (no pun intended here) in an explosive manner. No one will fall for that goading. No church or Minister that involved himself in politics and matters of governance escaped vitriolic attacks in this dispensation. It is not the church's fight. Personally it doesn't make the top ten interests in my view this week. These actions are belated, uncoordinated and short in objectives. Not particularly effective in the grand scheme of things. |
No SAN should be talking like this. 'Forcefully' is not a language of civility and he should be ashamed of that. Government should come out and ask its people what they want. That is the way democracies attend to such matters. Negotiations. |
Have nothing against the protests but still waiting for suggestions on the changes to be made and the restructiring to be done to the police as an organisation. Allowing the goverment to take the initiative on any reforms is tantamount to failure. Nothing will fundamentally change, nothing will be gained for all the sacrifices made. This is not exactly how prople power works. It is incomplete. |
Gbadebo19:The price of cement has remained stable. What are you saying? |
NGpatriot:If Mr. President is to be excused then he should push legislation to have the police removed from under the thumb of the Executive and have the IG appointedby someone else or some other institution. This is why we have urged your oga to be transparent and equitable in his appointments so that these appointees don't owe him personal favours. Most of his security heads at one time or the other during this dispensation have said it clearly, some tacitly that they are answerable to Mr. President and no one else. Then you clapped. Now with thes entire country baying for blood you look for a rock to crawl under. C'mon, come out!!! and stand like a real man and defend maxim rule. |
Absolutely nothing that African governments put their hands into that succeeds. Always tales of woe. The black man just cannot organise himself around collective values. |
Repackaging Jonathan for what? To rule this country again. Kai, what a mess.... just tragic. |
ensamy:Not even close. The golden years of the Nigerian National Team defence was somewhere between 1978 and 1986 spanning the careers of Christian Chukwu and Stephen Keshi. The present crop cannot hold a candle before them. There is not a single component of the senior team that is presently outstanding from the coach behind to the strike force out front. We've seen better days of individual brilliance and collective enterprise. However we recognise it is a work in progress so let us twiddle our thumbs. |
The building standing besides it looks tired. If I lived in it I will be in deep introspection right now. |
Congrats to him. I understand he is a performer of sorts so it is no surprise he garnered enough support for a second term. Also glad he was given a real battle by two tough opponents proving democracy is alive and well in Ondo State. The people can only be the real winners here. I hope they do not rest on their oars. Performance is not a given when power is exchanged for promises. They have to fight all the way to 2024 to receive decent dividends. Once more congrats to the people of Ondo, the All Progressive Congress and the Chief Executive Officer, Governor R. Akeredolu. |
Joshmodest:Oga. It is society that decides what role the church plays in governance or politics or whatever. Society has to decide whether it wants the church involved in its affairs in general or not. You cannot berate the church on Tuesday for 'interfering" and berate them for not on Wednesday. These people in church are answerable to a God society decides either to accept or reject. Remember the church has spoken several times about governments, goivermjent policies and government actions and inactions in the past and I cannot remember at anytime it met with universal acceptance or approval by the citizenry. God"s people are not switches to be turned on and off at will. They too can be victims of government's malfaescence but you must understand that quite often they have stood quietly alone as victims. Where was society throughout the times their members have be slaughtered the length and breadth of Nigeria for decades now. What has society done for them that to mock, heap blames and castigate their own cries. Please. |
Moblux:In a way, yes. This particular passage has been the subject of debate in the church throughout the ages because the texts are not detailed enough to make definitive conclusions as to why Abel was accepted and Cain rejected. However the New Testament gives some clues. Three passages, three lessons: Hebrew 11: 4, speaks of FAITHLESSNESS. 1 John 3: 12, speaks about UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. Jude 1: 11, speaks of GAIN, PROFIT, MONEY The only light which runs through the three without fault lines is: COVETOUSNESS. In all I feel that he Cain probably offered a so called sacrifice to God of inedible produce as if God was a hungry refugee or a prison inmate together with a bargaining chip on his shoulder, the way modern day Christians think they can trade with God as equals in the matters of provisions, wealth and sustenance. A man who cannot let go in love, expecting nothing in return cannot receive and a man that offers to God what he himself cannot accept is covetous and evil. For only by faith can He be pleased. |
shadrach77:Hmmm....yeah. May have been a bit better than that 'fig tree' playing centre forward for us....that refused to be fruitful... nna eh.. |
Wawelexy:When they speak out, when they had been speaking out against this government and its policies the same Nigerians tongue lashed them to stay out of 'politics' that it was not their calling or profession. The church that is put down constantly, disrespected by even its own members in the eyes of the world cannot suddenly become a force for good. God is nobody's toy to be used and flung away at the will and pleasure of juvenile acting citizens. Nations where religious institutions are upheld as as agents of social development respect them. Nigerians should decide what they want. Just a few years ago their politicians were rock stars in their eyes and anyone who dared speak up against them, even the visionary ones who knew where Nigeria was headed were viciously chastised. Nigerians all of a sudden are looking for their lunch in the dustbin. Is this not juvenile. A people that cannot learn by instructions will learn by punishment, simple. They should not disturb anyone. The church will only speak out when there is an abundance of violence and possibly loss of lives. Other than that the citizens should carry their own cross. The church leads, it does not follow. If you want God in your life and in your affairs you know where to find Him. |
I think so too. Until society decides whether God should be involved in Caesar "s business or not. Can't have it both ways for God does not answer to man. Unlike other religions God builds his kingdom by negotiation and consensus. He will never coerce any man to do anything. |
An acid test for the police. Now they've got to fish out the shooter and make any example of him in proving what they want their public persona to be. If they won't it will deal a mortal blow to their quest to survive as they are and the DSS should do the needful because the belligerence of the police is becoming a national security problem. Once more I say, the lack of a properly structured internal security/police system is becoming evident year on year as population index crime escalates, becomes more sophisticated and international. The structures handed down by the colonial authorities of generations past are no longer fit for purpose. Then the police was "a force' with one purpose alone. Put down anti authority groups hard and fast. They were the natural enemies of the people. Crime of today requires intelligence. Intelligence requires information, information requires infiltration, infiltration requires cooperation with the benefactors of security. The police of tomorrow will have to discard its uniforms, jackboots and assault weaponry. Force cannot and will never prevail over the modern day criminal and criminal organisations. It is time to restructure Nigeria and its security architecture. |
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