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eGuerrilla: @take dat,

I think the figure you quoted there is for the training budget only and does include any stipend which probably appears under 'personnel costs' for the ministry.



El-Rufai actually provided an interesting overview on Budgetary allocations here

I do not know of the stipends that appeared under personnel costs for the ministry. According to the same El-Rufai; N851million was budgeted as the entire training budget. The total budget for the ministry of police affairs was N13.3billion, but the ministry only controls police pension and awards contracts for some police formations. I do not know how the extra personnel cost for training schools fall under their purview!

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Punch did not do a thorough job here! Firstly, they failed to provide the amount allocated for the entire police training schools in the 2012 budget and how many graduated as at december 2012.

The entire training schools allocation for 2012 was N851million, its actually impossible for the trainees to have been shortchanged to the tune of N2billion.

As at december 2012, 18500 cadets graduated. If we divide the allocation with the number of graduants; N851m÷18500=N46000 each for a trainee. N46000÷12months=approx N3,834 per month for each trainee.
If we go by 15months which is the entire duration of their stay in college it will be; N46000÷15months=approx N3,070 monthly.


Caveat; I may be wrong though! Even if we go by my calculations, the amount still remains meagre for those training to be entrusted with the duty of protecting lives and properties!

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eGuerrilla: Madam's objective when she made that statement was solely to impart pearls of wisdom; that some friends cannot be trusted.

If you think for a second that she gives a rat's arse# about inferences the likes of @take dat, iforall, GARRI (x7), CyberG and other notable critics are likely to make, you are confusing her for someone who actually gives a damn.

Touche! She doesn't give a damn truly! Two peas in a pod, PEJ and GEJ!

Madam First lady, why should your friends and associates be holding your properties in trust for you, not to talk of their plans to dispose them off without your consent and hoping that you've embarked on a journey of no return? Does it mean you acquired those properties through proxy,mostly cronies? A foul stench of corruption hung in the air!

Thank God for your life, Dame P! Sahara Reporters vindicated at last! Shame on the fatuous oafs parading themselves as media advisers!

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mikeansy: asking relevant questions that will see APC buckle up and be better than PDP is in the interest of Nigeria. PDP is complacent and Nigeria is desperate for an alternative Government. That said the alternative can not offer us excatly what the incunbent is offering. Politics based on nothing, no values, no ideologies, no direction. Asking questions whether APC is the change we seek should not mean being confortable with the status quo. Change does not come on the cheap and it is important that the opposition is scrutinised now so that we know what we are getting

Okay Sir

olabukola: They are not registered yet but they are talking of presidentail candidate. Which should come first Idealogy or Candidate? your honest answer is required.

You've been paying too much attention on media manipulation. If I may ask you, who is the presidential candidate of the party? Sure you don't have an answer to that! Its normal for names to be bandied about just like its done here(NL) where forumites open threads to discuss their preferred presidential candidates! All I know is that the party is still in consultation!

mikeansy: They do not have to be registered to have an ideology

They are forming coalition, coalition of what? Is it a left-wing coalition? or a right wing coalition? or just a coalition of Politicians-No-In-Power (PNIP)? I think the smart money will be on the latter

We can not have change for the sake of it. They need to show how different they are from PDP. Otherwise this will amount to replacing a monkey with a dog in which an animal that stoops is still within your neigborhood

Even if the merging parties have an identical political philosophy or they claim their ideology is based on "democratic socialism", some will still write it off especially those contented with PDP's dominance and its myriad of failings and inability to lift the socioeconomic fortunes of the populace, rampant corruption and misallocation of public funds.

Some of us are looking beyond 2015, those whose gaze are fixated on 2015 elections are the ones who do not see the beauty in this merger plan. OBJ, Buhari, Tinubu and other political actors will eventually go, but these parties(PDP and APC) will survive if we allow them to and when you and I who are critics outside of the arena chiose to get politically involved.

The party can only aspire to make a difference when we support it. For the mere fact that there will be competition of ideas with the two parties almost equal in strength and spread is worth giving the party a benefit of doubt!

Elueme: I so much hate to comment on issues concerning these amalgamated thieves under the umbrella of Abandoned Political Cheats( APC). Up till now, no ideology or manifesto other than wrestling of power. These men are jokes!!

Bro, So you are expecting the manifesto of a party yet to be registered! I would have told you to wait for the party's registration before condemning their manifesto or ideology but it makes no sense, since you are comfortable with a party of the least-able, most unsuitable and incompetent treasury looting men!

Rossikk: Is this dunce saying Goodluck Jonathan was rigged into power? Has nwabueze's father organised an election half as credible? What is a "professor" doing addressing an ethnically based "youth movement" in this day and age? Worthless, useless professor. You are part of the problem. And if you think nigeria is failed, why don't you go ply your professorship in drc or Afghanistan and see how far you"ll go, dunce?

Who is this brainless imbeci.le referring to as a Worthless and useless professor? Your mental acumen is well below par! Son of a cumdumpster!

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cnwamo: wet

Oga talk well jare or zip it.
wetin concern gej for this matter?

Such a naïve post! The order from the NA to the IGP to issue an arrest warrant for Maina has been in place for some time now. The president who claims he is interested in fighting corruption should have waded in long before now since the IGP who works directly for GEJ was hesitant in arresting him! When the IGP does something good, you applaud the president for appointing him but when he derelict his duties you try to shield the president! Funny!

GEJ, IGP and the head of service should be held responsible for not acting promptly. Maina has got some mafia-like backing mostly from the executive arm of government who assisted him in evading arrest and aided his escape!

The government you elect is the government you deserve. Whether GEJ is your dream president or nightmare makes no difference since most Nigerians overwhelmingly voted him in. Each should bear the pains or gains till the next election.

There may be no difference for now but as long as our democracy progresses, PDP and APC wld eventually find their bearing in terms of ideology and political actors. We all have to embrace the coming together of these parties to form a merger because it is only when you have two or more vibrant parties with almost the same strength that PDP, the current ruling party would be able to evaluate its agenda and re-position itself, while it will also enable the new party to provide an alternative to PDP. In the long run, it will be a battle for competition of ideas!

Do not look at the actors involved in the new party for now cos we all know most are political decampees, estranged yesterday's men and some with a truck load of corruption allegations. There are no perfect political parties worldwide, it is the people who make up the parties that makes the difference. Look farther than 2015, when you and I decide not to be critics outside the arena but active participants, then the parties will take a new shape!


Except you are satisfied with those bloviating that PDP's rule will be for 60years good or bad, then you will see no good in this merger. Tinubu, OBJ, GEJ, Buhari, Anenih and others will go but these parties will survive them if we give the parties a chance and those whose interest in serving the people is germane will be the inheritors!

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GEJ lackeys and adulators won't be comfortable with what the respected prof said ; that the elections of 2011 weren't credible, and that we don't have leaders but looters!


Thanks Prof for not being a turncoat or a political sycophant! Nigeria is not becoming a failed state, it is a failed state! When you have thieves as leaders, they steal lives!

OBJ has perfected the act of public distraction. The phantom squabbles with his political son is just to always keep him in the news! OBJ doesn't fight power, he only fights for power!

Eziachi: Nice to know, reserve your volunteering energy for 2035.

I hear you sir!

Not only will I vote for Fashola, I shall also be a political volunteer!

Sincere 9gerian: You dont have to scream "Eko oni ba je" for you to belong to the camp of the notorious hypocrites. You'r definitely one of them, though a more conservative member. Anyway, its all good, as it's within your right to freely associate and express your opinion

If you are in a rivalry with the "Eko oni baje" crew, kindly slug it out with them and count me out of it! Trash talking tool labelling everyone who expresses his/her reservations as hater or hypocrite!

Sincere 9gerian: But when Lagos state govt commenced the laying of tracks on the Lagos light rail project, it was popping of champagne and celebration galore by the "Eko oni ba je" on this same forum.
I hypocrisy unprecedented!

Kindly point to one (1) project that was started (or continued in case of inherited abandoned projects) by GEJ and later stopped

Kindly dig out any of my posts to lay claim that I am a member of the "Eko oni baje" crew. If you are unable to do that, then you are the real hypocrite!

My initial post was borne out of the fact that projects executed by government are snail paced because of paucity of funds, allocations for them come in piece meal and corruption e.g East-West road. There is no way government wld complete the dualisation, even if there is the political will to do so that won't take a minimum of 4years. To disprove this claim, Kindly point out to a project initiated by Jonathan and has been completed in the last two years! I expressed my reservations because I know how things work in Nigeria!

No be to Commence, na to Complete dey important! Work commenced on lots of abandoned projects in the past, but has not been completed while some were completely abandoned!

Jonathan is trying to prove to all, that he is smarter than your average bear. Unfortunately, this move will further fractionalise the party in a region where the party is already presumed dead!

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free2ryhme: my broda no vex ooo ... i dont no say u get family for yaba left

You've got a few cards short of a full deck!

free2ryhme: It makes no difference wether Malam Tinubu or Boko Haram Commandant, Mr. Buhari drop their ambition to contest the presidency under APC or Armoured Personnel Carrier. The fact remains that Armoured Personnel Carrier (APC) is a moslem islamist party. If you doubt me check out the big wigs of the party: Shetima Kashim, Abdul Aziz, Religious bigot El-Rufai, Boko Haram General Buhari, Ibrahim Gaidan, Tinubu, Boko haram wannabe, Aregbesola, Gov. Yari (Zamfara), Yerima, Umar Tanko, Alhaji Fashola (I never knew he was a moslem), Gov. Amosun, etc. These are all moslems who want to turn Nigeria into islamic country.

Schizophrenia is not a life sentence! But it will be, if you fail to visit a psychiatric home nearest to you!

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena! Instead of asking questions and not proffering solutions, why not get politically involved so as to make a difference. The people in a political party make it, when you stay out in the name of reservation, wrong people will take over.

I am not too sure if this writer is doing a hatchet job for PDP or just a confused one? 1) How many of the bigwigs of CPC were in Yaradua's government? 2) question 7, About Tinubu having an outstanding case with EFCC, that's a lie because for over 5years now he has never been arraigned nor prosecuted, even when past PDP governors have either been convicted or still have their cases in court . 3) questions 6, 8 and 10 gives the impression that the writer is not abreast of latest developments 4) question 9, did Tom Ikimi help truncate any democratic government?

Brb!

Sanusi nailing the government he works for. Rebellion grows from the outskirts of responsibility, the scourge of BH, militancy and kidnapping are "partly" due to State failure!

miiraaj: If not Buhari, who can flush corruption out of Nigeria's system?

"If" Buhari drops dead today, does it mean we've lost all hopes of tackling corruption? No! This move is for the greater good of the party, if after dotting the I's and crossing the t's they finally decide he is the right man for the job, so be it! For now individual ambitions should be relegated!