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OLAADEGBU: How do you read? I said that it is a tragedy beyond words that many Catholics don't know that they need to be born again so as to enter heaven. I didn't even say all of them, I said many.

i read just fine.
1st u didnt explain wat it means to b born again.
2nd frm which reputable stat did u get d idea dat many catholic dnt knw abt d need 4 man to b born anew?

This is ur first post, u didnt say what u mean by 'born again', u just went on and on about how catholics arent born again.
4 d 3rd time.
Wat do u understand by 'born again'?

OLAADEGBU: Carlo Benniti said: "What's wrong with Catholics?"

Answer:

We love them. Jesus said that everyone (Catholic or Protestant) needs to be born again to enter Heaven (see John 3). Many Catholics don't know that, which is a tragedy beyond words.

benny4wax: How come

they use d julian calender, we use d calender of pope gregory called d gregorian calender.

Pastor Olu T: Was there a different meaning?

to be born again or born anew is to be "born of water and the holyspirit". Nt exactly d protestant idea of alter call.

Op, wat do u understand by 'born again'?

OLAADEGBU: Carlo Benniti said: "What's wrong with Catholics?"

Answer:

We love them. Jesus said that everyone (Catholic or Protestant) needs to be born again to enter Heaven (see John 3). Many Catholics don't know that, which is a tragedy beyond words.

i hope you know what it means to b born again!

mitey: @Ubenedictus, thanks for your contribution. But those verses you quoted are not solid proofs. They do not expressly talk about o.ral sex.

as i said earlier they are figurative.

i think oral pre-intimacy is allowed in scripture. If u are conversant with figurative language then these passages should show u wat i mean. Song of songs 8:2, 6:11, 5:1

vickyO: There is no need for that..
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no probs

Garri the 1st: If you need me to define Idolatry for you, then you are intellectually bankrupt and lack the requisite mental fire-power for a "step-by-step" discussion.

So sod off, Nincompoop.....

now clap 4 urself.

vickyO: Anti catholic threads are every where, there is no need opening another and I personally won't.

Thanks for understanding, anyways.
At least I found someone who understands.

And all is ok, just that the way syncan and co handled the issue was quite annoying.

i undastand!
Besides, d thread doesnt have to b anti catholic, just call it 'vicky and uben' and drop ur topics one at a time, we'll discuss, happily agree or peacefully disagree.
I dnt bite.

@vicky, pls, accept my apologies on behalf of everybody. I get d feeling, it seems every1 was undully focus on ur post. I'm sincerely sorry, if all is ok, abeg continue posting here. If u gat any problem wit anything said here just open a thread wit my name on it and i'll b happy to xplain. Sorry again.
Rich, syncan, sal c, pope, woky, and co, make una take am easy wit vicky and give her a holy kiss.
Vicky if u stil dey around hala me.

Besides e b like say una no know weytin b penance.

I also xpect u to apologise 4 d lies u told.

Dis is wat happen wen u hv 6months bibles school pastors.

kamura: 1. Why does it not condemn clerical dress? (Matt.23:5-6).

dat pasage doesnt condem clerical dres, go nd rid it again and learn hw to interprete scriptures.

2. Why does it not teach against the adoration of Mary? (Luke 11:27-28).

only God shuld b adored. D church is very clear on dat. Thou shal nt bear false witnes.

3. Why does it not show that all Christians are priests? (1 Pet. 2:5,9).

all xtians are priest, d church is also clear on dat. U are bearing false witnes.

4. Why does it not condemn the observance of special days? (Gal. 4:9-11).

go and learn hw to interprete d bible, dat pasage is against jewish days.

5. Why does it not teach that all Christians are saints?
(1 Cor. 1:2).

u are bearing false witnes.

6. Why does it not condemn the making and adoration of images? (Ex. 20:4-5).

only God is to b adored, d church is vry clear on dat. False witnes.

7. Why does it not teach that baptism is immersion instead of pouring? (Col. 2:12).

d bible neva said baptism is by immersion alone.

Syncan: Well... I do not know about the above, but I am sure it makes you "all things to all men" and also a "sign of contradiction" to many.
. may be somewhere in between lies the one he called you, depending on who he/she is.

yeah, i big sign of contradiction. They were recommending a church for converts, i gave mind and that was the response.

woky: your boy is doing greatItalo is busy with his project..

Building and igba nkwo nwanyi

weytin b igba nkwo nwanyi?

Wow, sum1 just told me this.

highyo: hmmmm
There was a day when the son of God came to present themselves before the lord, and satan came among them
and the lord said unto satan, where comest thou? Job1:6

i neva knew being a catholic makes u a devil

highyo: hmmmm
There was a day when the son of God came to present themselves before the lord, and satan came among them
and the lord said unto satan, where comest thou? Job1:6

really, this is your response! The devil came among them The devil came among them. So i am the devil to u?? Or compared to other churches d catholic church is the devil?
Remind me to keep that in mind the next time i talk wit u, thank 4 d candid insult.

FrancisTony: LOL @Unbenedictus. Pentecostals does it this days! Like the one my Uncle attends and some of my neighbour.

Though, some use Loaf of bread(haven't seen it but heard it).

The one my Uncle attends Break holy communion but once in a Month.

dat is a communion SERVICE not a mass, there is stil a huge difference.

POPE II: I didn't ask the definition of both words, I'm more interested in the differences. What do protestants do during their so called services which make them angry whenever I ask if they attended today's mass , they are always correcting me as if the word mass is unholy.

BTW thank you for the definitions

pope u dey shame me, the mass is d re-enactment/re-presentation of d sacrificial death of christ, bread and wine become his body and we partake of his sacrifice, it is offered to thank God for his goodness and for d good of d whole church.
Protestants dont believe in such thing, u cant ask a protestant hw was mass 'cos he didnt go to mass he went 4 service.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]genuine question.

how can bread and wine turn to a body?

is this some kind of witchcraft ritual tinz? [/quote]God said it, i believe, that settles it.

Woky hw far na?
Hw una dey, it been a year since i last saw u all.
Happi new yr to everyone. And may divine blessing drown you this year.
Someone askd abt d vestments of a bishop, pls clarify whicht rite and if d latin rite which form? italo where art thou?

Enigma: Our Roman Catholic friends say that the Virgin Mary is "co-mediatrix" and "co-redemptrix"!

Perhaps they mean well; perhaps they are just misguided; perhaps something else ...........................

Anyway, we know that the Bible says the following (among others):

1 Timothy 2:5

"For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus"


Hebrews 9:15
"For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant."

Prayer point: pray that our Roman Catholic friends will come to a true understanding that the Bible says that Jesus Christ is the only redeemer and the only mediator.

hehehe, enigma! It seems u alway miss the point. I alway wonder why protestants always read scriptures and refuse to see its meaning, your case makes me a little bit sad because u seem to have a little knowledge of d church fathers.

What do u understand by the term "in christ", st paul uses it a lot. If you can fully understand dat term you will understand that the two statement above aren't contradictory, they are instead complimentary, one and the same thing.
Mayb then u will undastand a little about the "communion of saints".

striktlymi: Thou shalt not kill!

dat law is interpreted as 'thou shall not murder'. Self defense isnt murder.

Uyi Iredia: It is clear he is compromising his religion in order to make it more appealing in a more secular and godless world.

what premise gave u the above conclusion. Can u show where he compromised anything?

People dont want the truth, they want well sounding lies!
Once people see d word 'catholic church' they are ready to believe any negative thing they hear. There is about 5 threads on nl displaying d false news, the mods didnt close anyone. Sofar d information give people a reason to condemn d church everybody ir ok.

Give a dog a bad name so u can hang it.

striktlymi: That's another way to look at it and I think it makes sense but does that free a Christian from any guilt of sin?

wat guilt are u talking abt?

Pls make a little researbh b4 u start pasting false news. Diversity chronicle is a site for satire. Simple put d news is totally false. There is no 3rd vatican council and d pope didnt say d above.

Please learn to research b4 u post nonesense. The so called news is trash, it originated from a satirical blog. If d pope said d nonesense poste above u should have seen it on bbc, cnn and newyork time.
Op b careful wat u copy and paste.

Stry i'll put it this way, in a situation where d system doesnt work, whatever my folks and i do to an assailant within our premise before the police shows up is self defence.
If d assailant is dead by repeated stabbing or stoning then it just is an unfortunate outcome of a good intension. His death is d semi unintended result.

The catholic church

Thanks ya all,
@stry u don bgin dey give excuse abi?

Pastor Olu T: That doesn't hold water sir, the greatest mistakes of the Catholics is to let the bible out, if the bible hadn't been available for all to see there wouldn't have been any problem at all. The availability of the bible to all exposed all their fallacies, I would rather be an atheist than be a Roman catholic!

you gat it wrong, the bible has been available for abt a millenium b4 luther, dat doesnt cause problem. The real problem is when people want their personal opinion of scripture to b doctrine. That has been the cause of d problem.
Beside, i'm pretty such what u claim to b fallacious isnt the catholic church but you own version of it.