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Boomark: Yes He did.

Logicboy03: Ah, but Jesus was scandalous himself.

Logicboy03: lol....My catholic church sells its own rosaries.
Give up, bros. Your church supported slavery, covered up molestation, is corrupt with money and is hypocritical. Te catholic church is not a force for good

berem: Oya! GEJ over to you.thank goodness they didn't give condition that our president must be a muslim.

Logicboy03: You are no different from the sheep that support Oyedepo tithes. Just s they are not riding in his private jt, you are not cashing in on millions from the catholic church

ijawkid: You do so in imitation of pagans whom you borrowed the tradition from...

As simple as ABC.......

Why do you have to count beads when you pray??

Are you a buddhist??

Why do you guys like adopting the ways and traditions of pagan??

Don't you get tired of it??

Logicboy03: lol.....I hope your son or daughter doesnt get molested by priests and then covered up by the catholic church. That would shake your faith and has done so for many people

Boomark: The question still remains-
To what image will you like Him?

Catholics likened Christ to the image of criminals and sinners and proudly bow before it offering prayers to it.

Who did you liken Christ image to?

1 see people bowing, kneeling and offering prayers to the idol they assume is Mary.
2 Parents teaching their children how to pray to the black idol of a pope.

truthislight: all the lies you and your RCC have fed people are very disgraceful.



all the lies you and your RCC have fed people are very disgraceful.

Now you are claiming a book written by christ apostles.

gregtochi: Recently I read an article on PM News on what the writer described as "Casino Pentecostalism". In it, he specifically talked about RCCG's attempt at monetizing God's covenant and blessings.
Surprisingly, his desciptions wasn't different from what obtains in other pentecostal churches, at least in Nigeria. It Made me begin to ask what exactly is the difference between catholicism and protestantism/pentecostalism.
Here is what I found;
1 Whereas Catholics beleive that man is justified (saved) by faith and works, pentecostalism beleive man is justified (saved) by faith alone (Sola Fidei).

2 While protestants beleive the bible to be their sole authority (Sola Scriptura), Catholics beleive they derive their authority from the bible and the church's oral tradition that has been handed down over the centuries.
Well, those are the two major reasons that led to the reformation movements. But, hey guys, I still need biblical back-ups or otherwise to substantiate each of these claims. Any informed contributions will help.

plappville: Show us where did God command the catholic? I can see that you have been overfed too.

You know that your have the right to choose between truth and false, good and bad, be righteous or sinful, the right way or the wrong way;

You eternity or condemnation is in your hands bros.

God says.......;;;;;

[size=14pt]Isaiah 40:18-19(NIV)
18 With whom, then, will you compare God?
To what image will you liken him?
19 As for an idol, a metalworker casts it,
and a goldsmith overlays it with gold
and fashions silver chains for it.[/size]

italo: He got free?

I thought they have gay bishops and reverends in the Anglican Church.

italo: He got free?

I thought they have gay bishops and reverends in the Anglican Church.

afam4eva: Is the Archbishop of Canterbury to the Anglican church what the Pope is to the Catholic church?

dopeJemi: Now this is something i was reasoning today at church,

Can a born again christian be in the army

we all know that armies kill in d process of fighting war

It was in the bible that 'thou shall not kill'

So I wanna know if a christian can be in the army

dopeJemi: Now this is something i was reasoning today at church,

Can a born again christian be in the army

we all know that armies kill in d process of fighting war

It was in the bible that 'thou shall not kill'

So I wanna know if a christian can be in the army

Logicboy03: The catholic church makes billions from Africa. That is my claim. I have proven it with their business model (offerings, donations, merchandise-rosaries, bibles etc).


I did not make any claims on how they bank that money.


#lying for Jesus

Logicboy03: The scandals will deter anyone who has common sense.

truthislight: Rubbish!!!

Boomark: According to the Gej analogy we have been using, this is what you meant by the bolded quote in the post above.

Having his fullness as just a son makes him equal to him.
Having his fullness as a servant and as a son at same time makes him lower than him.

It made no sense. It pleases God to dwell in Him(Col 1:19) that is where the fullness came from because He is the temple of God(Jn 2:21), Lord of the Sabbath, greater that the temple in Israel(Mt 12:6-8 )

I hope you know that as it stands now, He is still the High priest in service to God(you should know what high priests does and to whom, if not Google it and read) Heb 2:17.

But the summary of it all is in 1Cor15:27-28 where we started.
When He hands over everything to His God as a subject, God will be all in all. When i mean ALL i mean all in everything without exception.

There will be no need for mediatorship because the promise of bringing man back to God must have been fulfilled. The world would be a perfect place by then my dear.

Boomark: So when did he command you to make an image of some body you don't if he is a criminal in life and use it to represent Christ. To the point of bringing it to where you pray to Him.

Do you think He didn't know what He was doing when He gave them that commandment? Go ahead and make more idols for your self because you now have scriptural backing.

Idol bonanza for catholics. I have some for sell.

Enigma: On this occasion I will assume you have misunderstood my point rather than accuse you of lying.

First of all the so-called "primacy of Peter" is not and does not mean primacy of the Roman Catholic Church.

Above all, this thread is about the interpretation of Matthew 16:18. Therefore my point with Augustine, Basil, John Chrysostom, Gregory Nazanzius etc etc etc is that they interpreted Mathew 16:18 as conferring authority on Peter as well as on all bishops worldwide and wherever --- and to some extent even on all Christians.

In short, these early "church fathers" (and who were mostly NOT Roman Catholics) did not apply Matthew 16:18 to "papal primacy".

And with them, I conclude that Matthew 16:18 does not provide any doctrinal basis for the claims of the Roman Catholic Church of "papal supremacy".

The Roman Catholic claim of "papal supremacy" is contrary to the teachings of Jesus Christ and of the apostles.
Go and read Chrysostom and the others on their interpretation of Matthew 16:18 and learn, with honesty and humility, how they interprete the passage.

Enigma: ^^ Firstly, I stand by what I have said.

Secondly, I Have been discussing the topic of this thread and I have made posts directly on the topic. If you don't see them, there is nothing I can do really.

Thirdly, as far as I understand it, there is no obligation or particular reason to discuss a thread topic with any particular person. Any person can make a contribution to a thread without addressing or discussing specifically with any other person. Thus, I do not have to discuss with you or with chukwudi44 or any other specific person ---

especially not with the attitude that has been displayed.

Finally, even when you had been saucy I tried to patiently summarise my argument for you ---- and what did you come back with? More rudeness e.g. accusing me of "dishonesty"! And now that you people saw my own hand small, you are complaining.

OK, below is that summary again. I don't particularly need to say anything again and, above all, you have the freedom to make whatever point you wish to make.

Logicboy03: The Vatican City did not have a central bank until 2010/2011. The central bank is separate from the Vatican bank (IOR).


The central bank was created to curb the corruption in the Vatican bank. http://www.romereports.com/palio/pope-creates-a-vatican-central-bank-to-achieve-full-transparency-english-3316.html#.UI81yG9mKSo



Stop lying for Jesus!




I am debunking the catholics here!

Logicboy03: Who made that claim? What I said was that the catholic church makes billions from Africa. That is a simple fact. Whether they put it in the bank or not was not my concern

Enigma: "Behaving like a child" is at least better than lying.

You people have been lying for a long time and I let you get away with most of it out of politeness and because your argument could be deconstructed even despite all your lies. Do you realise that even in your post that I've just quoted you are lying?

And talk of "behaving like a child" ---- let us again expose your dishonesty. OK, first a test: go through the posts of yourself, chukwudi44 and your two cheerleaders/supporters and come back to tell us if you people were not "behaving like a child" ----- on many occasions!

truthislight: do you imagined that we are blind and cannot read?
Those history are highly tainted with censored tradition that people were even killed for going against them.

This are all one sided history that were allowed during the dark ages and are no basis for truth today.

frosbel: John Wycliffe
"When the western church was divided for about 40 years between two rival popes, one in Rome and the other in Avigon, France, each pope called the other pope antichrist - and John Wycliffe is reputed to have regarded them as both being right: "two halves of Antichrist, making up the perfect Man of Sin between them." -Ibid

truthislight: this was a new sentence.

Boomark: Broad is the way that leads to destruction. And many pass through it.

Keep that authority to your self.

Boomark: Hahaha!
My parents seems to be the only thing you can hold unto. Your looking for a lame bail out.

Exodus 20:4-5

4 “You shall not make for yourself an
image in the form of anything in
heaven above or on the earth
beneath or in the waters below.
5 You shall not bow down to them
or worship them; for I, the LORD
your God, am a jealous God,
punishing the children for the sin of
the parents to the third and fourth
generation of those who hate me,

1 Don't make any image and bring it to the presence of God. He does not like it. You think He will be happy to see you kneeling before an image and at the same time asking things from Him.

2 don't bow to them or worship them, even if it is called holy sacrament or the virgin Mary whose image you have seen in movies.