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ijawkid: 1st century christians.......

Don't act like you don't know what I mean.....

ijawkid: Now the point of the witnesses is that until ressurection occurs,nobodys soul roves about to heaven or a burning furnace.....

Even Jesus had to spend 3days in hell(sheol) b4 he was ressurected.....his soul as being taught by many today didn't run out to some place....he experienced ressurection........

That is what the bible teaches........

The bible teaches ressurection not immortality of the soul....

Jesus says in the end many will hear his voice and rise up......why not wait till that time rather than teach that mans soul is immortal.....that's why the questions surrouding lazarus's death and ressurection arises......

You see the point??

frosbel: No surprise here , another catholic offshoot denying that JESUS Christ is the Messiah.


but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world - 1 John 4:3

plappville: If it says make image, did it authorised you to bow to it?

Logicboy03: lol......the catholic church is the first institution to condemn slavery? Are you trolling?


The catholic church was one of the main proponents of slavery. Even your pope has confessed and apologised for the church's involvement in slavery.



I never said that bad priests make the church a bad institution. It is evil doctrine that makes the catholic church evil. Your church has documented support for slavery and efforts to conceal child abuse. Slavery is in your bible and was a part of your church's doctrine./

Boomark: Some English words are sweet when you are practicing them. Debunking and rebuttal are two of them.

Even after judgement, you don't know if he(Christ) will still be a subject and also equal to his God who will be all in all. All you know is that he sits at the right hand of the Father. Am glad you even know that one.

Boomark: Have you heard some thing like this before "every water is liquid but not every liquid is water." I want you to start thinking like that atimes.

Go back to chemistry and learn separation techniques. Then you can now tell which one is prayer and which one is praise.

ijawkid: Chukwu has come with his solar system question.....

Answer my question first...

Is the rosary found in the scriptures or was it used by early christians in worship??

Did they use beads in worship??

ijawkid: The last time I checked ""Truths"" were found in the scriptures......can I find the use of beads in worship in the scriptures??..

And who told you the Jews never knew how the messiah would come .....

Those same Jews had earlier known how. Angels materialized and was welcomed by there fore-fathers........

Christ isn't fake,that is why the scriptures talked about Him....
Does the scripture say anything about the rosary??..
Mr ""UBE"".....:-)

Ihedinobi: Excuse me, but I don't think this is correct in response to Mr Anony. In the discussion, you must communicate and sometimes it is necessary to mirror your discussant's discussing behavior to show what's wrong with it. And in this context, my twin did the exact right thing for effective communication. You will find that Paul and Jesus used this skill too.

seriallink: Oh, Christ gave John the prophecy of his second birth right? 'BORN TWICE' very good! Brah, you err! Those are end time prophecies, they have nothing to do with Mary & the birth of Christ!

And for what you posted up there regarding the queen of heaven, I'm coming back for it.

seriallink: Are you saying the prophecy in Revelation 12 has been fulfilled? I want understand this your teachings today

Why would Jesus reveal the prophecy of his birthday to John even after it has been fulfilled? Or is His second coming going to be by birthday through another Mary? *Smh* Well, I'm waiting for your answers!

Thank you!

seriallink: Are you saying the prophecy in Revelation 12 has been fulfilled? I want understand this your teachings today

Why would Jesus reveal the prophecy of his birthday to John even after it has been fulfilled? Or is His second coming going to be by birthday through another Mary? *Smh* Well, I'm waiting for your answers!

Thank you!

ijawkid: How long did the woman stay in the wilderness she ran to??.........

Can you please apply it to mary and let's see.....

Thank you mr ""mary the queen of heaven""....

Oyaaa......

More questions coming soon....

seriallink: But you do know that 'queen of heaven' is one of Mary's many titles given to her by the catholic Pope right? Is that also scriptural? *Smh*
Edit: BTW, that title has pagan origin in the book of Jeremiah 7:18 and 44:15-18. So, why was it given to mary huh?

seriallink: But you do know that 'queen of heaven' is one of Mary's many titles given to her by the catholic Pope right? Is that also scriptural? *Smh*

Edit: BTW, that title has pagan origin in the book of Jeremiah 7:18 and 44:15-18. So, why was it given to mary huh?

ijawkid: Please can you write out verbatim what you say when you use the rosary and let's compare it with the words of praise the 24 elders /the living creatures render to the almighty??...

And let's also find out if they were using prayer beads up there in heaven.....

I tire for ona....

ijawkid: Does using the rosary sound like the truth to your ears??......

Only pagans use beads in worship and in prayer.....

Or are you a muslim??.....

Boomark: Where did angels repeat a prayer continuously? I want to learn.

He repeated it a prayer 3x in a space how many seconds for how minutes. He went further and prayed again. Didn't you see that.
Do you know what it means to pray without ceasing? Why not claim that its what you guys.

Am sure He knows why He called them heathen, of which you can't exonerate catholics from no matter how hard you try. They worst is that the vain repetition is even a prayer to Mary.

Boomark: Do you know how to pray?

Go and read our Lords prayer. You can find it in mt 6:9-13.

seriallink: Match the scripture with scripture lets see how you arrived at mary & also her pagan title 'queen of heaven'

Boomark: I love your response. It shows me that my debunkals were excellent rebuttals.

Boomark: Do you not understand what He meant when He said do not use vain repetitions as the heathens do. He sounded anti-catholic here and upon that called their likes HEATHEN.

ijawkid: Na you sabi.......

I don't enjoy this argument either......

Truths are what I'm after......

Thank you my dear ""UBE""....

Boomark: Italo, my friend, don't you know the difference between praise and prayer?

plappville: The Jesus on thier cross and photo has long hair, and the bible says it is a shame for a man to have long hair.

See contradition fot Catholics..

1 Corinthians 11:14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,

If Apostle Paul saw Jesus with Long hair, He wouldn't use this words.

plappville: My bros, i no be prophet ooo, Like bros Ijewkid sated, we must use scripture to match scripture to arrive at not perfect but almost perfect conclusion.
Scripture speaks for scriptures. So let me try to break down my previews comments that brought up all these questions .

If you check in few OT chapters you will see tht "Israel or Jeruselem or Zion mostly represent as a "woman"
See Isaiah 54:1-6, jere 3:20, Eze 16:8-14 also Hosea 2:19-20

In Joseph's vision it was eleven stars, because Joseph was not among them he was the dreamer.
But in the sign with the Revelation woman with twelve stars, Joseph is now included in the other tribes of Israel.

So the woman is Israel while the twelve stars represent the twelve tribes. God uses this symbols to communicate something to us.

We must not forget that John clearly says this is a sign/wonder, so we shouldn't expect this to be literally on earth.
That is why i agreed with @Ijewkid when He said:

The woman cannot also be the church as i used to believe it was, because in regard to the birth of the church.
Christ is the one that gave birth to the church not the other way around. As long as the woman does not point at Mary, she must be Israel.

There are only two who could gave birth to Jesus, Mary or Israel. When you take a deep look at the rest of Reve.. 12,
you will find out that This woman is truelly Israel. Revelation 12 has a great similarity with Joseph's dream.

I know you know quit sure who the Dragon represents. And also the male child, The Angel Michael,
The woman's offspring, and the beast out of the earth, the Beast out of the sea etc..

If u ve something to improve do it please, i welcome a sincere correction comment in this aspect of my life.

gregtochi: Any material to back this up? even if not the bible maybe christian literature

ijawkid: SMH!!!!!!!......

Must pagans always set a pattern for you guys??

That is just my problem...

Can't you guys for once think independently out of the pagan BOX....??

Must you always follow follow pagans everywhere they go like a lost puppy to adopt/hijack there practices.......??...

I don't know what to call catholics anymore....

To show you that paganism has become your tradition,if you don't count beads it seems your prayers aint complete.....

You must count beads,make the ""cross"" sign,pray through mary while you look at her image.....etc....

If this is not ""JUJU"" I wonder what it is...

There is no difference between you and a buddhist....

Shikena!!!!!....

truthislight: if it was not a straith forward thing it is because people like you wanted to add books that were not from the apostles and it was rejected.