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Beey:
Scriptures are clear so am not sure what else you were expecting.

yes the scriptures are so clear that there is nothing like faith ALONE, IT IS A FIGMENT OF IMAGINATION.

johnw74:
uben, Jesus did take bread and say this is my body,
and you believe Him, which is good, although you don't understand Him

however God inspired samuel to say that He - God is a rock,
and you don't believe God, that is bad, and you don't understand Him of course


Luke. 22:19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for

you; do this in remembrance of me."

2Sa_22:32 For who is God, save the LORD? and who is a rock, save our God?

you uben believe the bread Jesus gave His apostles to eat was literally Jesus body,
and you believe uben that the wine Jesus gave his apostles to drink was literally Jesus blood

so measuring by the same yardstick so to speak,
you uben, must believe that God is a literal rock

God didn't inspire Samuel to say God is this rock .


Samuel didn't take up a rock and proclaim God is this rock or this rock is God.

here Jesus himself say s his flesh is REAL food, he then repeats that you must eat his flesh the Greek word he used is the most literal one, he said you must chew his body. that is the most literal word. then he takes bread and said. this is my body.

you can either believe Jesus was saying the truth and the entire Christian faith has agreed to the same for 2000yrs or you can say Jesus wasn't saying the truth and only in the year 1600 did some people who called themselves Protestants found and started calling Jesus a liar.

johnw74:
for the benefit of believers


ha ha uben, they are called Jesus brothers and sisters,
but because a verse doesn't specifically say mary is their mother
then according to you uben, mary isn't their mother

if there is anyone here at these forums nore duh than you uben i have yet to come upon them
of course there are plenty just as duh as you, bb for one, but none moreso

Jesus is joseph's Son
Jesus mother is called mary
Jesus brothers are James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas
Jesus sisters are there in nazareth also, along with joseph, mary, and Jesus brothers:

Mat 13:55  Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? 
Mat 13:56  And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? 




the words "before joseph and mary came together", shows they joseph and mary did come together:

Mat 1:18  Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 




mary had other children, Jesus would not have been called her first born if she had no others,
Jesus was her first born:

Luk 2:7  And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. 




mary and Jesus brothers were outside wanting to speak with Him:

Mat 12:46  While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.


because this other mary had two sons of the same name as two of Jesus brothers(james and joses),
you uben think that this mary is the mother of Jesus brothers:

Mat 27:56  Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children. 



the other mary's son james was known as james the less,
and this mary had only one daughter(salome), Jesus had more than one sister, see matt 13:56 above

Mar 15:40  There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;





the other mary is Jesus mother's sister, the wife of cleophas:

Joh 19:25  Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. 





when paul went up to jerusalem to see peter, the other apostles were not there,
just Jesus brother the apostle james:

Gal 1:19  But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

do you even know the word for brother in scriptures and its range of meaning?

analice107:
Yeah right. Hold that as a testimonial when you stand before the White Throne Judgment.

of course I'm happy to be in the Church Jesus himself established and I'm happy with that testimonial on the day of judgement.

Jesus, I am you son and brother, justified by your grace and bathed in your blood, a member of your body that Church you established on Peter and the apostles and gave your spirit and promised the gates of hell will never prevail against.... I believe in your promises. I don't deserve it but you have merited it for me.
open for me the doors of immortality and life eternal.

omojeesu:
By who?

Christ Jesus and his apostles

asuustrike2009:
I know from where did you get all these analysis? Is the Bible or what?

the Church Jesus himself established on the apostles and gave power to teach.

johnw74:
i did answer but you cannot help lie

uben, you and bb repeat the same things over and over again
just like you repeat the same prayers over and over again
praying repetitively and going against God

of course i did answer, whether you like the answer or not, i care not
and you and bb cannot see it because you have been blinded:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

rc's are blinded by the light

since you did answer why not repeat your answer again. . . stating the dates and names I requested.

johnw74:
duh uben, i have no problem with paul and the other apostles being priests of God,

truly uben, rc priests are not priests of God, but of satan yes

rc priests unlike the apostles, pray to mary and other deceased persons
and have statues of them, and worship both the persons and their statues

and building houses of worship for them, although the dead persons cannot be seen there,
just their statues can be seen, which rc's kneel and bow and cry and pray before,
like the good little idol worshippers that they are

first you say there are no priesthood in the new testament. now I have proven you wrong and you have diverted into another thing.


who told you the apostles didn't allow images in places of worship.

do some research every archeological dig that shows early Christian worship place has images..

johnw74:
duh uben, i have no problem with paul and the other apostles being priests of God,

truly uben, rc priests are not priests of God, but of satan yes

rc priests unlike the apostles, pray to mary and other deceased persons
and have statues of them, and worship both the persons and their statues

and building houses of worship for them, although the dead persons cannot be seen there,
just their statues can be seen, which rc's kneel and bow and cry and pray before,
like the good little idol worshippers that they are

first you say there are no priesthood in the new testament. now I have proven you wrong and you have diverted into another thing.


who told you the apostles didn't allow images in places of worship.

do some research every archeological dig that shows early Christian worship place has images.

johnw74:
for the benefit of believers


ha ha uben, they are called Jesus brothers and sisters,
but because a verse doesn't specifically say mary is their mother
then according to you uben, mary isn't their mother

at least here you have admitted the truth... not once in the entire Bible is anyone called a child if Mary except Jesus, not once is does anyone call Mary biological mother of anyone except Jesus.

if there is anyone here at these forums nore duh than you uben i have yet to come upon them
of course there are plenty just as duh as you, bb for one, but none moreso

sorry dear I am bigger than your small minded insults. I don't have time for ad hominem

johnw74:
yes peter said when persons repent of their wrong ways and turn around to the character of Jesus Christ
their sins will be forgiven and they will receive the Holy Spirit

of course that has nothing to do with satans disciples and their fake church

no he said repent believe and be baptised aka faith and sacrament.


you see how the Bible supports the Catholic position?

OLAADEGBU:
The word pope simply means "father" don't they call themselves "Holy Father" a title that belongs only to God Almighty? See what the Bible says about the papacy. ==> https://www.gotquestions.org/pope-papacy.html

of course holy is from the Greek hagio meaning set apart or consecrated, it is used severally in scriptures to refer to Christians.

you are the w
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one reading things into it.

[quote author=Beey post=61743914][/quote]I still can't find faith alone there

johnw74:
Jesus said that to his disciples as He was sending them out to preach

it certinally doesn't apply to satans disciples

first you copy and paste that no body received power to forgive sins now you admit Jesus gave them the power to do so.



the Catholic Church is the original Church sent out by Christ.

analice107:
Wow, this delusion is world class. The Catholic Church wrote the New Testament right? You are a complete joke. No, you are not, you are just to proud to admit your errors

there are no errors, the new testament was written by the member of the Catholic Church so years after the event.


the Catholic Church completed its canonisation 300 yes later.

omojeesu:
The Church began at Pentecost. All the books preceded compilation by anybody or group or institution. When did the Catholic Church start? Please answer that.

I already answered that the Catholic Church began 33AD

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We should invite Vaxx, BlueAgent, Sarassin and Butterflyl1on

another set of jargon.

we are talking 2000yrs ago these jargon didn't apply then.


a woman was considered matured for marriage at puberty...

you can hide around your jargon all you like but that is a historical fact.

johnw74:
uben, you don't believe or understand the Bible,
and you tell others to read their bible

what a pharisee hypocrite you are

at least you who claim to have all knowledge of scriptures from your copy and paste site was pretty ignorant that their is a ministerial priesthood in the new testament.



you are like a zombie and copy and paste is your software, so you are incapable of any sort of reasoning that doesn't involve copy and paste.



so yes the Catholic Church and the Bible agree there is a ministerial priesthood and you would have known this if you had bothered to read your bible.

blueAgent:
You are far from the truth.

I am in the truth for the Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth.


you should ask yourself why you have been indoctrinated to believe that Jesus left his Church and gave it over to heretics.

fogechi:
Brethren how can i get copy of Jesus the sharer. I need the novena prayer in the book

which one is Jesus the sharer?

analice107:
You are still making the mistake. The question should be, why not write your own Bible since this one is written by Catholic Church?

Again, Catholic compiled the Bible, yet throw it away far from the religion. Isn't that funny?

I am not making a mistake.


if you are so sure Catholics are idol worshippers, why not set your own canon and get your own new testament?

omojeesu:
What year did the Catholic Church start?
When were the books written?

then add this question,
when was the new testament compiled?.
1. 33 AD
2. last one was written about 100AD
3. compiled about 300AD

Kenerd:
Guy, TF. I said 2nd set set set, in case you didn't see it. not 2nd commandment. gosh.

which one is 2nd set again?

femolii:
no sense in your skull

I hope you feel better after insulting me.


if you have a reply to my post, submit it,if not have a nice day

asuustrike2009:
The Jesus you're talking about how did know about him? Why are you following his teachings?

through the Church he established

analice107:
Okay thanks, i was an ignorant Catholic but I have a Bible today and i'm reading it and you are still worshipping idols.

oh the Bible the so-called idol worshippers placed in your hands.

djoe21:
Yeah but we don't have to get insultive bro. We are all here to learn.

not every one is here to learn some came to condemn

johnw74:
you may notice bb oh evil one, that this site which you call a hate site
teaches from God's word
and your calling this God preaching website a hate site, is calling God hateful
but your god is hateful, and that's where all of your rot comes from


bb, more lies of yours and satans church exposed:


JUSTIFICATION

The most important question pertinent to religion is, "how may a man obtain the forgiveness of (his) sins?" Here is where the most significant deviation occurs. The Bible teaches that "faith" secures the remission of sins (Acts 10:43) while Roman Catholicism teaches that the "sacraments" (in addition to faith) do. We must be very precise here for the Apostle Paul said that any different way of salvation, even if given by an angel, would be accursed. Jesus said that the seed sown on good ground "understood" the way of salvation (Matthew 13:23). We urge you to embrace the Lord's way and let go of the former way. The Scripture says, "Having been justified therefore by faith, let us have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" (Romans 5:1). One Catholic writer is defending his Church made a statement that we all should heed. He said that if faith alone saves "the whole traditional structure of Christianity is a needless empty show, the Mass, the sacraments, the sacrificing priesthood, the teaching hierarchy, the papacy, practices of penance, asceticism, habits of self-restraint, prayer. Nay, these things are a hindrance, an enormous sham, a terrible system of lies, and therefore to be utterly swept away and destroyed." Philip Hughes, A POPULAR HISTORY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, p. 176. True Biblical Christianity rejects the notion that salvation is a moral process, that the sinner is "made" just, or "works out" his salvation by his own deeds.

Heed what God teaches in the following texts:
John 3:3. Unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 3:16. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that those who believe in him may not perish, but may have life everlasting.
John 5:24. He who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has life everlasting, and does not come to judgment, but has passed from death to life.
Acts 4:12. Neither is there salvation in any other.
Romans 4:5. but to him who does not work, but believes in him who justifies the impious, his faith is credited to him.
Romans 4:6. David declares the blessedness of the man to whom God credits justice without works.
Romans 3:28. We reckon that a man is justified by faith independently of the works of the Law.
Romans 5:1. Having been justified therefore by faith.
Romans 10:3. Ignorant of the justice of God, and seeking to establish their own, they have not submitted to the justice of God.
Titus 3:5. Not by reason of good works that we did ourselves, but according to his mercy...

Prayer: Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus I ask forgiveness of my sins. I give my life to you that I may receive the Son and that the Holy Spirit may work in me to will and to do of His good pleasure. Because your Word says so, I believe that You have heard my prayer and have forgiven my sins. I promise to study and obey the Scriptures so that my knowledge and faith can increase. Amen.

myc dot org

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every
one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the
forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift
of the Holy Spirit.

johnw74:
bb, more lies of yours and satans church exposed:


CONFESSION OR THE SACRAMENT OF PENANCE

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that her priests exercise the power of forgiving sins by hearing confession of sins and granting pardon for them as ministers of God and in His name.

This teaching is not from the Bible.
I Esdras 10:11. Now make confession to the Lord the God of your fathers.
Mark 2:7. Who can forgive sins, but only God.
Acts 4:12. Neither is there salvation in any other.
Acts 8:12. Repent...and pray to God. (Peter did not hear his confession and forgive him, but said, "pray to God".)
I John 1:7. The Blood of Jesus Christ...cleanses us from all sin.
I John 1:9. If we acknowledge our sins. (To God, not to a priest - automatic confession and absolution.)
I John 2:1. If anyone sins we have an advocate (Jesus) with the Father.

Throughout the Bible remission of sin and salvation are connected with faith in Christ, nowhere with priestly absolution. In order to support her tribunal upon earth, the Roman Catholic Church mis-interprets Matthew 16:19, "I will give thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven". Also Matthew 18:18, "Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven". And John 20:23, "Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained". First of all, the "keys of the kingdom" refers to the authority to proclaim the terms of salvation in Christ. This is the privilege and duty of all Christian believers. The authority to bind and loose is first and foremost the commission to proclaim the gospel which liberates those who believe it, and consigns to bondage those who reject it. The Roman Catholic Church misinterprets this text in order to support the practice of confessing sins to a priest. The Biblical context clearly indicates, however, that the words of Matthew 16:19, 18:18, and John 20:23 were not only spoken to the apostles but also to those believers who were with them. Christian ministers are to preach repentance, but nothing is said about hearing confession and the granting of absolution (forgiveness of sins).

John 20:23, "Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained

Kenerd:
WTF is wrong with people? must you resort to insults to prove a point? I never said anything about the commandments everyone knows about. I said I have never seen the 2nd set of ten commandments; Exodus 34, which I have posted twice on the thread. *facepalms*.

and I said you either were deaf during the time or you are lying. it is a lie to say you were in the Catholic church and the commandments were read and you didn't hear the 2nd commandment.

Ubenedictus:
when did these your Christians compiled
their own new testament?



or you just went blank? uh?

johnw74 it seems you still can't answer

thorpido:
Awww,your words are so true but you are like a student wearing a neat school uniform in [the wrong school.[/b]You didn't take the time to pay attention to what I was pointing out.
I NEVER said we are not sons of God in heaven or that we are not going to be alive to God.
My emphasis was on the fact that we are going to be like 'angels in heaven' just like Jesus said and that there will not be a father/son relationship or mother/son relationship or husband/wife relationship.
That means Mary plays no 'Mother' relationship with Jesus and DOES not influence Him like a mother would here on earth.There is NO 'mother of God' as Catholics say.
Mary and as many as serve the Lord and do His will will be influential in heaven.

you must believe all glory in heaven his equal?