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omonnakoda:
That is the limit of your cognitive imagination

There is nothing ridiculous about asking questions
We have airplanes because someone asked why not
Not because "conventions" were accepted.

Can you give me one example to back up your claim that political classification follows basic convention

That the term has no meaning is a ridiculous thing to say. Meanings change or emerge out of nowhere. If people decide so
Kindly tell us what South-South means?

The word " gay" used to mean happy. Today it means something else
Words serve man and not the other way round.

That is what I mean by undergraduate mindset. You have not fully developed the capacity to think beyond "convention"

The point is those terms HAVE NOTHING to do with cardinal points.

Ok, sorry.

Let's hope they create West West.

omonnakoda:
You are still operating with an undergraduate mindset.
What we are trying to do here is THINK which is not a friend of convention

Thinking implies interrogating convention which is what I believe this thread is about.

You just don't get it

Taribo West is called West because it is his name. Nothing to do with Cardinal points

The terms SS SE etc are a political classification. little to do with Cardinal points

Therefore Cardinal points play no role in their validity as a political description

Sorry, graduate. Even political classifications follow basic conventions. What is political is the cardinal directions the country decides to adopt out of the available conventional ones. Like I said in my post, you can ask why there is no North North and that would be a valid question cause North North is a valid cardinal direction. Asking why there is no East East/West West is just ridiculous because there's no such cardinal direction. No place on any map can go by that name.

In other words, you can argue that there are political motives regarding the adopted classification but East East and West West are out of the question cause they just have no meaning, and you don't throw away basic knowledge just to support a political standpoint. This is from the post you quoted:

The question is not why is there no East East/West West (that would be ridiculous). The question is, why did Nigeria adopt South South but no North North (or some other feasible cardinal directions). While I can't pretend to know the answer, I believe which of these points adopted by any map depends on the shape of the map and the socio-cultural need for such division. This might explain why Nigeria would have the South South region without points like North North.

If you still don't get it, I don't know what else to say.

omonnakoda:
FIRST MAJOR DIVISIONS

When by whom?

There is no factuality or logic to this claim

Was this something that was written on the Tablets of stone that Moses Brought down from Mount Sinai

Some people drive on the R and others on the L

It is just CONVENTION nothing more.

There is no law that says a clock cannot move from R to L

We write from L to R some do the opposite

By whom? Seriously, are you guys new to cardinal directions? Why do you say South East and not East South for the center of South and East? Dude, I did not create the cardinal directions. I just shared the standard convention with you. The keyword is convention. If it's not okey with you, you can decide to start saying East South and West South instead of South East and South West as well. I'm done, I don't know what else to say.

ezenwajosh:
then show me south south in the cardinal points

South south east means southern of southeast or southern of southwest....there is southern south

Ok.

tishbite41:
Your so-called image says otherwise.

Show me the South-South cardinal direction/point there.

There is North North. (North North West and North North East) and South South (South South West and South South East). The cardinal subdivisions adopted by any area is determined by both the shape of the map and the socio-cultural need. See my detailed explains below.

Akwamkpuruamu:
The area between the WSW and the WNW is the west west. You can't be smart by half. Besides there's no cardinal point like SS

@bolded: No, it's not (please, ask Google or see the images I shared). There is South South which is either South South West or South South East.

You cannot have East East or West West cause North and South are the first major divisions. They are then subdivided into East and West. Therefore, they take precedence over the later. This means that whenever the division goes beyond the four cardinal points, you'd start seeing things like SouthWest/SouthEast, and Northwest and Northeast. And if you divide this any further, the two major points (North and South) will repeat themselves to accommodate the break down of the major subdivisions thus South South East and South South West (both are collectively South South).

The question is not why is there no East East/West West (that would be ridiculous). The question is, why did Nigeria adopt South South but no North North (or some other feasible cardinal directions). While I can't pretend to know the answer, I believe which of these points adopted by any map depends on the shape of the map and the socio-cultural need for such division. This might explain why Nigeria would have the South South region without points like North North.

NB: Why do you guys think every chat or argument must be accompanied by insults and name calling?

ezenwajosh:
there's no south south

What you have is south south east or south south west....so those in Niger delta as you call it....are they south south east or south south west, or mixture of carved out of the two?

South South East and South South West are both South South. You can further divide it into South South East and South South West if is warranted by the shape of the map or cultural differences.

Joel3:
there is nothing like south South in geography.

It's South or South East or South West. Even if you look at the nigeria map. What we know as south South and south east are one. It's simple South. And nothing east there. Even akwa ibom that is regarded and south South is behind the allaged south east.

The creation of regoins and states in the country is flawed. What do you expect when the north created it all.

Ok

Lol... bro, there's no such cardinal direction. The area between Southwest and South points (and also Southeast and South points) is called the Southsouth.

Updated (with image):
You cannot have East East or West West cause North and South are the first major divisions. They are then subdivided into East and West. Therefore, they take precedence over the later. This means that whenever the division goes beyond the four cardinal points, you'd start seeing things like SouthWest/SouthEast, and Northwest and Northeast. And if you divide this any further, the two major points (North and South) will repeat themselves to accommodate the break down of the major subdivisions thus South South East and South South West (both are collectively South South).

The question is not why is there no East East/West West (that would be ridiculous). The question is, why did Nigeria adopt South South but no North North (or some other feasible cardinal points). While I can't pretend to know the answer, I believe which of these points adopted by any map depends on the shape of the map and the socio-cultural need for such division. This might explain why Nigeria would have the South South region without points like North North.

Hope this helps.

Update II:
Lol... I thought we were discussing some basic Geography. I didn't know the question had some political/cultural undertone. Not my kinda space, I'm out!

peacettw:
Oh well, best we can do is to lay out the options. It's left for him to decide.. Good night

Yes, that's it.

Good night. It's 6:13PM here, still got work to do.

tensazangetsu20:
Honestly I used to think this but its absolutely not true. Even a friend of mine when I was learning to code advised me to go for data science because web is saturated. My friend has been doing data science for 3 years but has been unable to get employment but I got my first job six months after learning web development. The path many Nigerians take to learn web development is unprofitable thats why it looks like its saturated. There are paths in web development that if you need a developer today you cant find them. SAP one of the largest ERPs has moved to cloud and they now use Javascript (UI5). How many SAP Fiori UI5 developers are in Nigeria. They no reach ten. How many Magento devs do we have here? According to the Magento registry of certified devs theres just two. One is in UAE. The other works remotely for an American firm. I checked their linkedin. How many Shopify developers do we have in Nigeria. Even the popular wordpress we all use. How many Nigerian devs know how to make custom themes or plugins. Most Nigerian devs follow the sexy paths to web development but in the real world, theres very few jobs using this things thats why it appears saturated.

I think we are saying the same thing. Maybe it's my grouping that caused the confusion. That SAP uses JS doesn't mean I'd categorize SAP development under web development. That is because SAP development is a specialized domain that needs special training even with your knowledge of web. C# and TypeScript are used to develop Microsoft Retail Server and POS (both Cloud POS and Modern POS). These stacks are used in web development as well but I would not categorize MS Retail as web development cause it's highly specialized. C#, Python, Javascript, Java, etc. are used to develop Azure Severless API's. Those they are also used in web development but Azure is a specialized application.

The point here is, when I say the web development market is saturated, it is not about the technology (cause it's practically the same technology we use in other domains), it is rather about the traditional database/back-end/front-end stand alone applications people development all over the streets of Nairaland. I am saying there are a whole lot of more specialized domains out there cutting across different industries

This is not just a Nigerian thing though. I grew up in North America. I've been here virtually all my life (except for the short period I worked in UAE) and the case isn't much different. Specialists don't apply for jobs, HR and recruiters search for them. They even go to other continents to look for them. Yet the country has a lot of traditional web developers.

peacettw:
True. But the young man is terrified of what the future holds for him. If everyone is into programming, as is the case today, that might be a problem.

These days, big tech companies don't care about certificates. They hire anyone with the skills to solve problems and cheaply too, hence the reason most of their staff are Indians. We are getting there and if the competition is stiff, then the takehome pay drops as well.

He is a lab technician with the potential to expand in his field. Health care will always be sought after till the end of times. So why not do both? He won't be the first so why not try?

I get you. But we are not the ones to tell him which path to choose. And he can't make such a personal decision based on how it will affect the market cause everyone wants (and deserves) a cut of the cake. If he loves programming, it would be unfair to ask him to stick to another field simply cause we want to increase the market value of those already in the system. Before you chose programming, did you think about the market saturation? I guess not. If he's passionate about programming, by all means, let him give it a go. That might end up being his source of great success. The most important thing is that he does either a parallel or a pilot cut-over to avoid regrets.

Talking about saturation, I think what's saturated in Nigeria is web development. Software engineering is so much more than that and the country still has a lot of uncovered grounds.

I'll keep saying the same thing, the orientation we give the boy child today determines the man he'll become tomorrow. This idea of giving males laissez-faire treatment while focusing on the girl child, where she is going, what she's wearing, how she cooks and who she talks to, etc. only gives rise to men who believe women exist just to satisfy them and women whose purpose in life is to get a husband.

Let's start holding men accountable, both old and young. A man who is into yahoo is not a sharp guy but a thief. A man who sleeps with olosho is an olosho. A married man who sleeps with other ladies should be condemned. Davido is not "my guy" while Chioma is a hoe. Boys who go about harrasing ladies should be called out. Let's start measuring a woman's success by her achievements and not her marital status. This isn’t anti-men, I am a man. This is me asking y'all not to raise the beast that will devour you.

peacettw:
Well put. I study programming because it's fun.. Definitely not my main career.

This morning, using a python module, I scrapped some data for research from NCDC covid microsite. Something, God knows would have taken me some good solid hours if I had done it manually.

Oh well, to each their own

I can imagine. I've been a professional programmer (post graduation) for about a decade. While I know I love what I do, I can't pretend I don't know I'm missing out on some other aspects of life. But then we are all part of a system, programmers, doctors, teachers, farmers, traders, etc., we all must give whatever our chosen paths demand from us as none is more important than the other.

OP, do you have any knowledge of programming? Do you already know what it entails? If not, I suggest you study it for a couple of weeks to know if it's a dream you can drop another for. I wouldn't want you to be frustrated half-way and lose it all. Like someone already said, programmers aren't usually money oriented. They do it cause it's thier passion/fun. Problem analysis and solution design, algorithm, etc. can be very complex and developers spend a good deal of thier time dedicated to looking for solutions. This affects thier social life but they're not complaining. They don't even notice it cause they're overly passionate. The question is, are you?

babyfaceafrica:
the compensation doesn't commenurate with 31 years.. Nothing can!! Jeez! 31 years for doing nothing

Well, they now have enough resources to do 100 times more than most other free men could have done in those 31 years. Being a black North American myself, I know for sure that only a few blacks here make up to a million in a lifetime. If really time is money as they say, then it's safe to say they got the best bargain for their time. Those outside the prison working thier asses off can't even come close. We can't return to the past; so yeah, this is definitely a good bargain in my opinion

Angelfrost:
Even before clicking, I already guessed it would be African Americans... Such a country where it is sometimes criminal to be "Non-White"! SMH!

What exactly is the money supposed to do for them??! Can you actually monetize the life wasted??! The opportunities lost??!... This is SAD!

The money might not be everything but it's not as bad you're putting it. Opportunities wasted? How many black people make up to $1m in a lifetime?

EmekaBlue:
Some women are Wicked because of toto

You didn't read the post at all.

Sad but nice compensation as well. I'm glad the real culprit has been caught.

ubaobi:
Crypto is the currency of the future, All paper based fiat currencies will eventually become useless over time due to the effects of inflation.
The earlier governments realize this and set up regulatory frameworks to regulate crypto, the better.

But the question is, how do you regulate a floating blockchain tender without borders? Who's monetary policy will take precedence? How do you track transactions? Even if you end up doing that (by allowing each country to have thier own coins and policies), what then will be difference between that and other currencies? Crypto trading will be exactly the same as as FOREX;

Electronic money is the future but I honestly doubt it's crypto. Cash is already disappearing (I have not used that in a while now) and people are moving to e-transactions based on traditional currencies. I think that's the future. We are all about crypto now cause it's new and there's demand for it fueled by uncertainties. That won't always be the case.

Besides, currency alone does not save an economy. If you kill the Naira and promote crypto, the economy will respond and still eat deep into the value of the crypto.

Just thinking out loud.

They say the present leaders should make room for the youths. Here are the youths.

The first three people are already cursing without reading anything.

Depressed101:
op post story here to make fp.. Have sense for once

He didn't share it cause the story does not agree with his title.

He has granted bail or he has been granted bail?

How else do you want it to be before you know it's Ponzi? Where do you think the $1,100 will come from? Heaven? I'm sorry but I don't know why you guys are like this.

Omihanifa:
Now that he's a free man, if anything happens to him I guess iyabo ojo would be held responsible

Because the other day she was seen on camera saying she was going to kill him if he's eventually set free by the police

He is not a free man. He was granted bail. That does not mean he's been acquitted.

Wow... Nigerians are extremely toxic.

BigDawsNet:
Really?

Can you name 50 Countries presidential residence without checking google?


Can you you? No lie oh

Seriously, lie? I'd reserve my lies for something more serious. I don't need to know them all. I say "presidential residence" for anyone I don't know. I can't even imagine talking about Cameroon and then saying "the White House". That would be so so weird. I know about the American influence but I'd be shocked if it has gotten to the point of calling all presidential buildings "the White House". Like I said, if this is a Nigerian slang or some anglophone colloquialism, then it would make sense why I'm surprised at it.

southpole:
I checked very well I couldn't see where I stated that you mentioned religion may be you will you show me, I was just trying to let you know what happened during 9/11, even in Palestine there was heavy celebration when about 3.5 thousand people were killed in a day during the 9/11 attack, same Arabs are saying there was no genocide against the Jews in Germany. All Humanity including the Arabs and Muslims should learn to condemn violence irrespective of who is involved or affected. It is even more funny when people like you want to be politically correct. Political correctness is more dangerous than an atomic bomb.

I really don't know what you are on about.

I merely expressed pity for the poor kid with no affiliation whatsoever. And you're reminding me of the atrocities of the other religion. At the end, you still told me to condemn violence regardless of the party. Did I mention any party? And now you're now claiming you can't see where you said I mentioned a religion. Why then did you quote me in the first place to tell me to condemn violence regardless of the party when I clearly didn't mention any party? What political correctness again? I only felt for the poor boy.

You are a handful. You know what, just let me. I'm not in for some fruitless conversations this morning. Whatever you're saying is right.

Enjoy your day.

BigDawsNet:
You guys in Nigeria?

Broda I don't based in Nigeria...

Like I said it's a general slang to catch up the gist instantly...

Well you right but even tho it's a private company... whenever stuffs that brings a national security issue private or not...the Homeland security will take care of it....

"Because it's now a mater of national security"

Regardless of the fact that the company serves a good deal of the country, the final decision to pay the ransom could only have been taken by the proprietors as the billions spent belong to them. Any other theory remains speculations until proven otherwise.

Regarding the White House, you are still the only one I know who generally refers to all presidential buildings as "The White House". But it's possible I've just not been paying attention; no big deal.

@bolded: Sorry, I meant "Nigerians" generally.

gnykelly:
You are right about insinuation. But irrespective of the ownership structure. The company domicile under American business law is still regarded as an American company. Same as a ship registered in USA will gain protection from USA.

That's given and it's definitely not the bone of contention. My point is that the decision to pay the ransom could only have been taken by the proprietors (as against the idea that the American government negotiated with "terrorists" ).

It's hard not to admire the OP. Whether one agrees with him regarding the subject or not, we can all agree the post is thoughtfully written. I wish everyone on this app would learn to present thier opinions in such an articulate and unputdownable manner. Very pensive!

Unfortunately, I don't have enough details to comment on the matter at hand.

Meanwhile, if your aim is to defame IPOB and their leader (hopefully, it's not), I suggest you put your skills into something more productive.