₦airaland Forum

omoredia:
Let equity, justice and sincerity be in place let's see if insecurity will not be stamped out. Injustice, corruption and insincerity has greatly demoralized those in the army that want to commit to fighting a good fight and a just cause.

Very true, some people wish the status quo to remain, it is where they make their billions. Insecurity will greatly improve once the abnormally are corrected

Feintline:
This is 2024 .
The Nigerian army cannot be behaving like 1999.

The act of killing our soldiers is very bad and the hoodlums should be dealt with but not in this fashion of killing innocent peope in their houses.

What happened to tactical investigations to fish out the group that carried out the killings.

Kai, the same modus operandi they used in Zaki-Biam(Gbeji town) in 2000s, they also gathered the people for a meeting and opened raw fire on them. Very crude in this age of top investigation methods

omoredia:
Then so be it. But if it was the core north the military will not be threatening like this cos most of their personnel are from that extraction. When I say north I mean the core north and definitely not north central. The military is not sincere in the fight against insecurity in this country, truth be told

Maybe or maybe not,One can't be definite about it. Attacks of this nature hardly occur there, I haven't known any myself. And yes, it maybe partly because of what you said, many of them are active in the military, therefore, maybe they don't need to mount such attacks on their own who are majority. Head or tail, such has not happened that I know of. The closest I can point to is the El zakzaky issue with the army then, if you can remember. Many were killed simply for obstructing COAS. But again, it was tilted towards the religious angle of the Sunni and Shite Muslim rivalry. It is therefore neither here or there.

Yes, corruption is a major issue. Many top goons in the military, both south and north are hugely benefitting from the chaotic situation. So it is true that they are not sincere. But it must be noted that, the gorilla and ideological warfare as being fought in the North is difficult to be defeated even by any sincerity standard. Ours is worse as we agreed on the point you made

Ofunaofu:
So sad


But where was the Nigerian police?

How come the police weren't called upon first?

There's no reported case of external aggression, so why was the military the first to get there instead of the police?

Is the Nigerian military now trained to settle community issues? 

No one is asking these pertinent questions.

While we condemn these acts, this could have been avoided. 

Our military is now getting too involved in acts that are under the purview of the Nigerian police force.

Very true, but the gross failure of NPF can't be overlooked as well

omoredia:
For innocent people to suffer means the military is not well trained. Truth be told our military are not well trained at all

Yes, what I emphasized. That is why I told the person who was saying the military should do what they could have done if this occured in the North. Many people are of the opinion that the military will keep quiet of this happened in the North, but it is never so. I can't recall the Delta scenario in North East or West but I witnessed it in North Central and the experience is not good. Instead of the army to use intelligence and fish out the culprits, they go on wild destruction of life and property. It is very unfortunate. But again, anything military operation anywhere in the world always affect innocent people no matter how trained the army is. Look at Gaza, when US and allies where in Iraq, Afghanistan etc. it is quite unfortunate but once the soldiers are out of their barracks in this way, it is unavoidable to affect innocent people

omoredia:
If bandit resides in bush does that not make clearing them all the more easier?

I don't understand your question very well. But in any case, we do hear that soldiers kill bandits and bandits kill soldiers. I think my point on bandits/terrorist and the similarities or otherwise of Delta/Zaki Biam example I made in relation to the message I quoted is clear enough. You can read it again. Making it easy to clear bandits/terrorist in the bush or otherwise is a different topic.

But again, the scale of Military operations going on in the North, if you must be sincere can't be compared to anywhere in Nigeria. Majority of the Bombs, fighter jets and artillery are concentrated there. So I don't understand when people say the military is not operating in the North. You are also free to pont it out to me where the military went on a peace keeping mission between warring communities in the North and where brutally murdered and nothing happened. I already gave one in Benue and the consequences of which I don't pray for any community. It is not pleasant as innocent people suffer brutality from the army

omoredia:
The military should treat this matter like it has been treating other issues of like nature in the north. No selective reaction to things

If they treat it the way they do in the North for such cases, it won't be nice o. I remember the Zaki-Biam attack where similar issue occured in North Central, many towns where sacked as far away from the incident place as possible. It wasn't funny. In the North East and west, what is happening is not similar to what just happened in Delta. The army is in a war with terrorists and bandits who reside in forests and bushes and not community, infact, the communities are constantly under attack by bandits and terrorists. The only similar case to Delta I know is the Benue example. But it is a cruel revenge by military, innocent people suffer for what they know nothing about

limeta:

By the way, can you mention a community in the North that has killed soldiers in this manner?

Must it be to the letter

Okay, to if to the letter as you put it is a bit difficult, let's loosen it. Please, mention a community in the North that has killed soldiers aside the bandits and terrorists who are in active war with the military

limeta:
Something the military cannot do in the north

The way most of you talk is amusing. Have you been to the North you are talking about? Do you know how many bombs have been used and are still being used in the same north? By the way, can you mention a community in the North that has killed soldiers in this manner? Please, as hint, don't mention Bandits and terrorist, they are in bushes and forests and not communities. They fight with the military in a war. Again, these soldiers been deployed should strictly fish out the perpetrators and not deal with innocent people or give collective punishment

HarryGleb:
When will the army revenge over the killings of their colleagues in the north or are they afraid of northerners?

I don't think any community there has gang up to kill military personnel. The north there as you put it, is an active war zone between terrorists and bandits . They kill soldiers, and soldiers kill them too. They are not in a community but in forests and as a matter of fact, launch attacks on communities as well. So I don't think drawing parallel with what happened in Delta is wrong. Except if you have reports otherwise

Codes151:
dey play

Thank God, we are in the internet age. You can Google and find out what happened then, no too much story. A sitting president that his very state was ravaged with banditry, kidnapping and terrorizing. Two members of his advance security team were injured in a shoot out with bandits when he wanted to travel to Daula one time. Just Google and add knowledge

Codes151:
Kidnap everyone you like that’s your business

Under Buhari, Una no kidnap.
Now south don sit, una Dey do rubbish.

We no Dey dance to rubbish music.

If northern governors and northerners cant defend themselves, or tell us the truth why they always try to take this country backward. Then you guys can kill your selves. Una use am try kill GEJ.
Plunged nigeria into 20years behind. We ain’t falling for thrash.

Make una go die

There was no kidnapping under Buhari? Which planet that one happened please?

HeadNigga:
Nawa o. Favouritism yet they tell us to be patient when they are not employing capable hands.

Wait, is it because he is the son of Ganduje that is why he is not capable? I am a critic of this administration but we must be constructive. It will surprise you that, that same guy has attended the best schools overseas and is more than capable to deliver on the job if he wants to

Spandau:
Look, I don't talk to uneducated finks. Bye!

Sorry, I know there is hunger in the land. This kind of rant is expected

Spandau:
So those food stuff being smuggled out were grown on the moon and financed by aliens?

It is because of hunger induced by poor governance that has coined the word smuggling for a legitimate business people have been doing for ages. Do you mean Nigerian agricultural products are not exported to other countries or what? For some people, this is their business and it wasn't termed smuggling ever since up untill these unfavorable policies. Infact, government was even encouraging agricultural export and banned import. The government doesn't just know how to handle the current situation. Just doin guess work

HugoBoss10:
So normal export of goods from Nigeria has suddenly becomes illegal
There's nothing we can't hear in this emilokan government

My brother, normal business that people were doing without any hitches. Poor policies couple with wide spread insecurity, resulting to the inability of farmers to go to farm has caused prices to soar and hunger. Instead of government to tackle the root causes, they are busy harassing people doing business.

This one strong

YoungLionken:
But Buhari was president for eight good years, no protests..

Some northern elites are obviously sponsoring these people, same thing they did with GEJ..

In as much as I don't like BAT (my previous posts are there as evidence), I think the northerners should cut him some slack...

Are you saying the hardship now is less than Buhari time?

makemoneywbsite:
Everyone should sit at home bikonu. Sit at home should be Nationwide to save lives. Looks like every armed robber has upgraded to kidnapping

Shey, you don't know that they are kidnapping people in their houses ni? Ask those Abuja residents

It is good they are doing the road. The road was too bad

God1000:
Why not strike Iran directly, is Israel afraid of iran?

At this rate, Iranian military will run out of generals very soon due to Israeli strikes. Generals are taken out like chickens while iran is waiting for Israel to strike on its soil. this is amusing

WhiteNRed:
They should continue deceiving themselves.
There was serious fire fighting and someone has the chance and freedom to do vidoes and snap pictures.

Thanks to God i am not living there. And dont have any family member there. Both their seriousness and hypocrisy is still on them.

Do you know about body camera? Please study to learn

maasoap:
The question is: for how long in case you missed it the first time. Prolong war drains resources.
And trust me, I dedicated my time to read about the relationship between USA and Israel about three years ago, so I understand many things.

As long as It takes for Israel to be safe to simply answer your question of time

maasoap:
Israel has entangled itself in what could possibly turn out to be a prolonged war. To make it worse, she's fighting on multiple fronts. That will affect her economy terribly among many other things, which is already happening.
USA supports for Israel in terms of military and economic aids is there, right. But for how long? Ukraine is a typical example

Please do not ever compare Israel with Ukraine situation. Read well about how Israel is deeply intertwined with the USA and you will understand. There are reasons why you see USA move war ships to the red sea cos of Israel. The Pentagon itself is made up with top Generals of Jewish origin and the two countries weapons systems are developed together, sharing a lot of technology. USA will never fail to act decisively if they feel Israel is threatened beyond their capacity

Thundafireseun:
The village doesn't have access. No network. I can't even reach anybody

The moment I saw this I knew it’s an imaginary story

But you traced her to her sister’s house before?? And you can’t plead with her sister again to give you directions to the village….

Mstheeeeeeew

What do you mean? Do you think it is everywhere in Nigeria that has network? D play

Objectivist04:
Reminds me of isreal Hezbollah war of 2006, the Arab world are still celebrating it as victory against isreal despite that Beirut was almost destroyed with over two thousand Lebanese killed while isreal lost less than a hundred soldiers with their cities intacit

It appears as if victory has a different meaning to Muslims.

It baffles me seriously

Tetraozonaitera:
E shock you?

The shock pass Bihari own o

Objectivist04:
.it is one for hundred, remember that isreal once released hundreds of Palestine prisoners in exchange for the body of isreali soldier killed by Hamas. This is to show you the worth of an isreali compared to a Palestine.

Yes, I even said it on another thread when someone was celebrating Hamas victory when he heard some reservists are been withdrawn due to the next stage of the war. How can someone be celebrating victory when over 22k of the people are killed and cities turned to rubbles?. The only logical explanation is that, the life of the killed is far worth less than the other. Is a pity how Muslim consider their life worthless

Gandrova:
They can kill their members, but they can't kill ideology because it's deeply rooted.
Two state for Palestine is the only solution.

You are right, but the both are radicals in ideology and one is more armed, sophisticated and ruthless than the other

simpleseyi:
Good. I love the people you are killing, even after several decades, they will still revenge

Unfortunately, they are also dealing with unforgiving Israelis, the reason why they have survived in that region. Kill one of them, and at least ten of your people are going down

motayoayinde:
Which military in the world kills thousands of civilians in spite of getting weapons from powerful countries without defeating the real enemy?

Which military runs away from the battlefield being chased by enemy fire and still claims victory?

Even Israel itself is ashamed of itself in this war but a hungry you claims victory for them.

Sorry, please go with your victory in peace. My pity is with the Gazans crying daily under rains of bombs due to Hamas recklessness. You are just making me believe the life of a Muslim is generally worth lees than others, as you are comfortable claiming victory in this circumstances

Lastmessenger2:
of course the life of you Muslims are so useless because majority of you are the scum of the earth. Who in his right sense will want to a Muslim and begin fighting jihad

you are quoting out of misunderstanding, go and follow my conversation with the person I quoted and you will understand. Of course I am no Muslim for your info