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Syenite: I am a Geologist by profession, been practising for over 7years part of which I majored in Micropaleontology which deals with study of ancient life and dating of rocks.So this topic is my Baby.There is a near 100% correlation between what the bible says and what Geology says.
Take for instance in Genesis Chapter 1 vs 1-2: the bible says in the Begining God created the heavens and the Earth. Now the Earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

Correlation of that part of scripture with Geology:Note that the book of Genesis was written by Moses.
1."In the begining God created the heavens and the Earth"-Moses the author did not know precisely when, he just said in the begining; Geologist also don't know exactly when the Earth was formed. The oldest rock discovered this far is about 4billion years old. The age of the Earth was estimated to be 4.5billion years + or - 0.2billion to accomodate for any other older rock yet to be discovered. Lesson is both the Geologist and Moses don't know the exact age of the earth

2."Now the Earth was formless and empty".Moses gave a very good discription of the earth here; According to the Geologist Shortly after the "big bang" that preceeded the formation of the earth, the earth was heated up and made of molten rocks which were fluid-like and u know fluids don't have a particular form, they take the form of the vessel they contain. Moses said "empty"; the geologist say lifeless.

3."darkness was over the surface of the deep" Moses could be discribing the "deep" as the various depressions, valleys, rifts etc. Darkness here means there was no sunlight. Geologically, the Earth is older than the Sun. Which means the Earth was existing in Darkness before God said let there be light.

4."and the spirit of God was hovering over the waters". The waters being discribed here could include the ancient seas and inland waters that existed prio to life.

5. Verse 3 of Genesis:1 says "let there be light and there was light light"-This corresponds to the formation the Sun that gives light and life to Earth.

6. Verse 6-9 of Genesis:1 describes how waters where separated from waters and waters separated from Land. Geologically this was when the atmosphere was formed separating the water in the atmosphere from that over the lithosphere i.e the hydrosphere. Water separating from land is Geologically desribed as Marine regression which is later usually followed by transgression- a cycle which is still in operation today!

7 Verse 11-12 of Genesis:1 describes creation of plants and Vegetation, Verse 20 describes the creation of the birds, Verse 21 God Created Sea creatures, verse 24 God created Land creatures. and finally verse 26 God said Let us make man. The Geologists should look at the Geological time scale following the evolution of life and events sequence from Paleozoic to Recent and see if it does not tally with the sequence as described from Genesis 11-26!

8 On the issue of timing of the total creation sequence which to me is the only major Difference, the bible says 1 day in the sight of God IS LIKE [/b]and not [b]IS 1,000 years in sight of Man. Author of that scripture was using that to describe how Magnificient God is. The Author does not know precisely the scale of convertion (and no living creature on earht today knows). He could easily had written 1 million yrs or 10million yrs and that would easily have been established today.

9 All the earth quakes, Tsunamis, Hurricanes, Volcanic Eruptions of today have been in existence for millions of years and were created by God and not Geologists!!

I believe in the Almghty God - the Maker of the Heavens and the Earth.
I rest my case for now. Any questions? Criticisms are welcomed.

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I don't want to refute every single point you have raise here but want to let you know that 90% of the comparison you made between geology and science is senseless.
Only way to redeem your discoveries is to try to get your religious geological findings accepted by international geological associations and get a publication in one of their prestigious journals. Pending when you achieve that, all what you've said above is hogwash.
Look as someone with some science background, I would appreciate your behaving like a scientist and don't let sentiments influence your analysis of events, instead don't go scientific if you don't have clear evidence otherwise you will be like a joke to other people with strong science background.
I personally dont believe everything I was taught in my geology classes until I have some clear evidence. For example I dont believe the concept of Orogeny and continental collision in Geology but I cannot disprove what other geologist have said because I have no evidence to disprove their findings so far. I also did not believe in geological stories that explains geological history of an area by analysing outcrops and tying it to geological subsurface either gotten from logs or seismic analysis until I went down a mine shaft in Germany to a dept of about 1800ft where I was able to do proper correlation between some of the outcrop formation in the Netherlands and the equivalent of such outcrops 1800 below sea level in Germany. Those observations made me to believe geological stories because these stories have proof. I was also taken to a Dinosaur museum in Germany where geologist preserved some footprint that were alleged to have been created by Dinosaurs when they walk the face of the earth, but I did not believe the story because I asked the Geologist why they did not think that such print could have been caused by something else but did not get a clear answer.
My point in the above stories is that people have the right to believe what they want to believe and even Geologist don't have thesame agreement in theories relating to depositional sequence of the sub surface based on sequence stratigraphy because Geology is not like pure science.

Syenite: Pardon me but I later discovered that u are not a scientist. To the bolded, just like God said let the water separate from waters and Land abi? and next thing rush rush rush (like a cartoon) u just see water flying up and down and water rushing away from land. These are scientific processes that took place and are still taking place over millions of years not as instantaneous as you think. God said let there be light and he allowed the scientific porcesses to follow its course.Besides the bible does not give graphic details of events. When the bible said in the begining God created the heavens and the Earth it did not state all the processes involved and how long ok? O gush! this thing u are argueing u know nothing of it.Common don't be blinded! I remind u again that the bible does not lie! Give your life to Christ and you will never regret u did. My brother Jesus loves you.

What proof do you have for all the processes you are describing above authoritatively? Its obvious you have not been involved in research where you have to explain every occurrence you see and as long as you don't have proof, you do not insinuate. The extra things you are saying is just a way of Christians trying to look for the most ridiculous reason to try and tie scientific findings with the bible. The Muslim also try to do same, but at the end of the day, you just sound like a scaler quantity not understanding where you are coming from and going to.
Research is simply done to be sure of what is happening otherwise you will only have hypothesis which is not authoritative and subject to criticism and review.

ckkris: The RELIGION OF ATHEISM appeals only to the implacably wicked. When they sneak into church they start apartheid, segregation, homosexual marriage, and all abominable practices.. Still there is hope. WE WILL NOT GIVE UP ON THEM. JESUS IS LORD.

Do you know that America that claim to be a Christian nation was built on enslavement of your kind for centuries while the slave traders brought religion with them? Try study the history of racism in the US specifically looking at deeply Christian southern states like Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina and you will be ashamed of what deeply devoted members of the Christian faith did to black people and they justified their action then from the bible. The Mammon religion also refused to allow black to be members when it was founded by Brigham Young and they refereed to the blacks as a cursed race.

tbaba1234: You as a non-muslim man can not guarantee your muslim wives' rights:: No matter how much you say you will ... You have no religious obligation to..

Islam is about Justice to everyone... There are limits to freedoms but it is for your own good...

This is one of the most abnormal post I've ever seen. I have been to Oman and UAE. In oman, I visited the main university they have there namely Sultan Qaaboos University. In their classrooms, the girls sit at the extreme back corner of the class while the guys sit in front of the class. The girls and guys dont talk in the public campus. When a guy is coming along a walk way, any girl on that walk way must stop and wait for the guys to pass before they continue their movement. This is not something I was told I experience it because I was there. Women have no right they are properties to the men.
What about Saudi Arabia where a women must have a guardian to go anywhere and where they are not allow to drive or be actively involved in politics? Europe is more of a secular society with no obligation to religion and alot of women have achieved the highest thing any human can aspire for. Can same be said about the middle east or in the core Nigerian Islamic North. How many prominent female politician is from the core Islamic Noethern part of Nigerian? the Christians are even better when it comes to women right but Islam, Thats a no no..

logicboy: Have you heard of pastor Zangief


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeP6l3JDBrw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLKP-gnHk_o

Nice one logic boy. Quite funny. I used to like that game with my life in the 90's. Also the 360 move is awesome

zangiff: a friend of mine works in an hotel and sees a lot from these rich men have lots of sex and still be the one to clean up,as a christian he sees this a bad and he stops the job

Its a matter of choice. A friend told me his father refused to accept a job with Nigerian breweries in the 80's because he is a Christian while his fellow close Christian friend accepted the job. Today, the father regretted his action because things are hard for him, while his father's friend rose along the ranks of the company and have worked as expatriate in different part of the world and currently a top shot in the company. Whatever you do in life, just be ready to bear the consequence of your action.

Also your name reminds me of Street Fighter

ckkris: 2good.
The Bible established the fact that the earth is round, before scientistists started working on it.

Is it not thesame bible that the early church used in improsoning one of the early father of astronomy Galileo Galilei where he died for saying that the earth is round?

ckkris: 2good.
The Bible described the solar system before any other authority.

Where in the bible were other planet described or where was it stated that the earth revolves and rotate round the sun? Was it not Joshua that told the Sun to stand still?

ckkris: 2good.
The Bible described photosynthesis accurately. When you find out these, and much more, life will begin to make exciting meaning.

Where in the bible was it described that 6CO2+6H2O+chlorophyll=C6C12O6 +6H2O

Also all the point you pointed are basics of science. Science have advanced way more than you can imagine

jadedmocha: The earth as we know it was created some 6000 years ago, do not forget that the in the account of creation as recorded in the bible, God has been existing for aeons and at some point he proceeded to divide the waters into two separating the water into two different mass. The waters above condensed to form the sky and the waters on the surface were further separated to form lakes, oceans and dry land. This is what is known as earth today. So the very substance from which earth was made from as actually been existing for aeons, for how long I do not know. The very uniqueness, complexities, design and amazing functionality and aesthetics of nature points to the existence of a supreme being who designed all, Jehovah is his name.

Simply put, you have no answer to that question, so don't quote it as a proof for your believes. Its better you don't go into the discussion because your answer is as vague as the earlier poster's. You have no iota of proof to back up all what you said above.

lilkech: how can a sane human being liken him/herself to t'iger head finger battery' ?


as in ehn, what do you think will happen to this life you are living now (your ups and downs, loves and hates, good and evil, wars and peace, friends and enemies, family and all other strangers e.t.c) once you die ?


is it that you just go blank ? enter into a state of nothingness ? as in at that time you take your last breath do you think that you just go 'OFF' ?


as much as all i stated above seem true according to our common sense, physical earthly science and nature I STILL CHOOSE TO DIFFER because i was born with with the elements of HOPE, FAITH and an UNCOMMON sense .

something has to happen to this life you and me are currently living after we die


please if you do/do not believe in God and wish to convert someone, go to the person or get the person to come to you and then make your business clear to them. do not do so here as your seriousness wont be seen

if you claim you are an atheist but in reality you are not . . . i pray God forgives this 'life' you are living now


bone say dis na internet, dat baba wey dey the SUPERNATURAL world dey look u

Where was our soul and spirit before we were born? If you cannot answer that question, then it means you should also not have an authoritative answer over what happens when we die. Its a complex discussion that even science cannot explain just like religion cannot. Religionist only assumes they know based on indoctrination and superstitious believes that have existed for thousands of years with no logical proof except quoting of verses from holy books.

beblessed: i am a female geologist and i bet u it took awhile before i could reconcile religion and wat i studied. you need to be open minded and objective in your reasoning and allow God to help u.I hv read widely, was born an anglican, became a pentecostal etc... read all manner of books,ventured into another religion ,but GOD opened my eyes and brought me back.if the true b said, there is a close link between the bible and what i learnt in geology.it was just our idea of what TIME really is. geologically, the earth is about 4.2 billion years old, but from the bible it can be calculated to b abt 6000 years. but remember that a thousand years to we humans is but a day to God. so do ur arithmetic. God speaks to different persons/people in different ways.For those who say he does not exist, i feel your loss.

4.2billion years to human=4,200,000,000

a thousand years=1000

God human ratio, 1:1000

Meaning 4.2billion in the sight of god is 4,200,000,000/1000=4,200,000 years.

That is 4.2 million years which contradicts the bible's 6,000 years.

Your conversion of geological years of earth to its equivalent in the sight of god is not rational and too vague.

BSc Chemical Engineering and MSc Petroleum Engineering and Geoscience. My strong science background contributed alot to my agnosticism because right from when I was very young, I had to know the reason for why and how things work than just believing what I am thought. I actually stopped attending church when I was in SS1(1996) because god stopped making sense to me and I have built my unbelieve since then. Funny, I never met an Athiest/Agnostic until I started my Bachelors in Unilag, so that tells you how deeply religious the country is because I was in my own world for atleast 3 years after I dropped religion.

tbaba1234: There are a number of points

1. In an Islamic state, all muslims are citizens; there is no saudi national or iranian national.... Any muslim that lives in the state is a citizen and is entitled to full benefits.

2. The ottomans, the ummayyads, the abbadids are examples of Islamic states that existed in the past... There are a few more.

3. The monarchy is not the form of islamic governance, Allegiance to the leader must come from all regions before he can rule.

4. There is no religious hierarchy in an Islamic state.. The saudi government appoints a mufti. As a result the religious laws are influenced by the government, Instead of being independent.

5. There is a few unislamic laws, like the restriction of women drivers, It has no basis in the Quran or the sunnah of the prophet... Women at the time of the prophet rode camels and fought wars.

The basic structure of an islamic state is non-existent...

But they practice Sharia law, which still negates all the point you made up above. As long as you agree to Sharia, you are bound to live by the law one of which is dealth penalty for apostasy. That is what the Islamic scholar in the video said.

tbaba1234: ^It was a bit of an entrapment by the guy asking about the apostacy law in the video. It gives him limited time to go through it.

It is not as simple as convert and get killed; that is not how it goes.

A number of conditions must be met:

First of all, it must be an Islamic state, most of the Muslim world are secular states. There is no true Islamic state in existence at the moment and the majority of muslims maintain their faith.

Also,leaving Islam and proselytizing another faith or carrying out acts to discredit Islam is treasonable.... Remember It is an Islamic state... If however you convert and mind your business; no one cares.

Thirdly, the person is not just executed, he speaks to the scholars about his doubts and is provided evidences about the divinity of the Quran so as to convince him, if that fails, he is threatened basically to shut him up from proselytizing disbelief in an Islamic state. If he relents, he is let go and can continue in his disbelief and live his normal life.

compare with

Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."


Christians practised a more brutal form of the law for centuries:::

First, I am an agnostic so don't bother quoting the bible to me because I dont believe in Christianity either. But the issue I raise is entirely on Islam and whether we are dealing with an Islamic state or not, the penalty for Apostasy is death according to sharia law which is the law your prophet received from your god. Mohammed was born in Mecca, so anything he handed down to his followers there is the real thing while what you guys practice now is diluted version which makes it fake. You also did not answer my question if your Islamic practice is holier than that practiced in countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Kuwait and Qatar, where this death penalty Apostasy law applies in full.

tbaba1234: ^Unlike other religions suffering a decline; Islam is particularly different

the internet has been a very useful tool for muslims because islam does not request you to shut down your brain and just believe... It calls on its adherents to reflect and think. It provides evidence that if studied dispassionately leads you to only one conclusion.

Since 911, muslims in America have doubled

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138365/The-changing-face-religious-America-Number-Muslims-U-S-doubles-9-11-Mormonism-spreads-East-Coast.html


And the trend will continue as long as people put aside their prejudices....

How can a religion that carries the death penalty for Apostasy be regarded as "not requesting you to shut down your brain and just believe"? Or is your islam holier than that practiced in the middle east where it originates from?

dare2think: Only someone who lacks integrity, discipline and honesty will still continue to advocate a lie so evident that all can testify to.

To say that a curse is working on a group that continues to carry attacks almost every month is beyond delusion, it's state that is approaching lunacy.

Nigerian Pastors should win medical awards for brains procedures, the way they damage people's brains without using surgical tools is astounding.


You can only weep for sad minds subjecting their lives to a pathetic but clever human being that fraudulently claims divinity and supernatural prowess, when in fact he is nothing but a charlatan.

Sad story.

The bolded is so funny and true..

Pastor AIO: Lol! Billions of dollars are being sunk into the pockets of pastors too.

The point you quoted above is so true and the reason Nigeria and many African countries are so backward and among the poorest countries in the world with poverty increasing at an exponential rate with rising population and crippling economy.
Have you notice that buildings that once stood as factories have now been converted to mega churches, where people go to pray for financial breakthrough while the factories that are suppose to provide these finances they sort after are folding up. The funnies thing is that never in school were we thought that the solution to success is prayer but instead we were taught the basics of economics and the principles required to create wealth and sustain an economy. Somewhere along the line, all these teachings are replaced by religious deceit from people with no single experience of creating wealth other than using people's religious gullibility to milk them dry of their finances and the whole population of a country disregard well tested economic policies in favour of the quick rich teachings of religion which is the reason Nigeria is in its current state.

logicboy: Do Buddhist believe in God, Mr Cherry-pick?

Not the point. Just trying to correct your error so you can put forth a sound and better truthful argument next time. Learning from a clear mistake should be one of the hallmark of someone that seek better understanding of his environment

logicboy: What do you think?

The video shows that no god have play in our lives but the religionist will always try to ascribe occurrences to the god factor so as to justify their believes and fantasy even if the reasoning is the dumbest there is like what we've seen in this video.
It also reminds me of what my uncle used to tell me about the religionist and probability distribution. When something good happen, god allows it. When something bad happens, god allows it. So if you toss a coin and get either head or tail, it is still god, so no matter how you try to analyse events will religionist, they will always look for the dumbest and even most silly ideas just to justify their belief in god.

logicboy: 1) Human and apes have common ancestors. Get your facts right

2) The most intelligent people (acccredited scientists) support evolution and are overwhelmingly atheists.

3) You live your life based on many atheists gadgets- Bill gates, Steve Jobs etc agnostic and atheists. Dont you feel like a hypocrite? Even the owner of this site is an atheist.

Bolded was a Buddhist

Obiagu1: Unfortunately, Engr. does not exist. Just don't argue that.

I did my masters degree in the Netherlands, where my professors are addressed as Ir. Professor XXXXX when they want to give a presentation. But they are generally addressed as just Professor or Dr. The Ir is abbreviation of Ingenieur which is Engineer in Dutch. Also every engineering graduate in the Netherlands is addressed as Ir XXXX and infact there is Ir. in your Engineering certificate, so it is not a Nigerian thing. Alot of people don't use it because of choice but it is a right to use it once you earn it. A PhD holder for example spend around 10 years of his/her life in the university (from BSc through PhD) studying something and for that reason deserved to be recognised for their contribution to academics and research.

Youngsage: Wow! So tell me where u previously saw my post or where i quoted from? I don't have to know you bro, i can tell a lot from the way u're so quick to argue in defence of poverty from your very myopic point of view- Number one symptom of poverty. Now look at you saying you know my type? Haha funny. Well, u say i read so much books, fine. But i do know you dont read books from ur level of understanding. You can't even comprehend my post to see that nothing is theoretical about it. They are simple facts! I was looking at poverty from a general perspective, didn't even cite biblical examples. Well good u made us know how dumb you are though.
You say you are way out of poverty, but you are so dumb to understand that poverty is not only measured in financial terms. You are really a poor dude! Pity.
I can understand your situation 4rm ur last paragraph. So u mean there are no success books written by 'non religious' authors? What stopped them from believing in them then?
Poverty is more than being 'broke'. Some people are poor from the mind. Chronic pessimists

I asked you a simple question on what you've achieved from all your theoretical analysis and all you can answer is to rant and make noise. I really dont have time to deal with people like you because you are an educated illiterate.

juventino: FX You're an Ediot, can't you shut up?

lol. Very funny post. The guy is indeed deluded. That is what religion does to people

Why do most people in Nigeria and Africa entirely spend more time insulting other African tribes rather than thinking of how to solve the common black man's problem which is its inability to develop as a race? It is really sickening so see people of thesame skin colour with me doing nothing but throwing tribal insult at one another like they're in anyway superior instead of cooperating to solve a common problem.

Youngsage: you are still getting it wrong bro. Dont fall prey to poverty, stop exhibiting symptoms of the deadly disease! Poverty is a wicked monster/master, he wants pple to keep defending him/taking sides with him. This is where the issue of choice comes in.
Like i said before, getting rid of poverty starts from THE MIND, then the TONGUE/WHAT U PROFESS.
It all boys down to IGNORANCE, another killer disease. When you have the right KNOWLEDGE, you will be able to LOCATE exactly where your opportunities are and you will be able to track them down, then you will also use them to favour you, i.e after you must have done your homework very well.
But when you are still ignorant(poor in the mind), you will work yourself out searching here and there for opportunity to no avail.
Note- if u work very hard alone, in this country, u may hardly make it.
But: Hardwork+SMARTwork+ theGfactor=Success.
Cheers.

You don't even know me and you're telling me not to fall prey of poverty. I know your type. You read so much books and think success is as theoretical as it is stated in books. FYI, I am way out of the poverty class and have nothing else to tell you. Also I dont believe in your bible and your god, so if you want to converse with me, be realistic and not quote from what someone else wrote but instead tell me what you have done and achieve with all your theories and the circumstances you used in achieving them. Enough with all these quotes because I know people that have fallen victim and spoilt their life because they believed in the success story as written by religious authors.

OLAADEGBU:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL4upLajJSc

Here is a talk show where a Muslim phoned in to talk about his faith. Watch and see how he was led to receive our Lord Jesus Christ as his Lord and personal Saviour. Glory be to God!

There is no difference between Christianity and Islam. Both are religion based on ancient middle east myth.

sheyguy: jamb's stat can only support arguments for education up till secondary sch. level.
If we are to use Tertiary institution as our benchmark, i will give it to osun state based on my experience during NYSC. I noticed that osun state indigenes had highest level of participation. Though states like edo, delta, ogun & oyo had high number of grads too, osun state surprisingly topped the list. If we were to move higher to PHD/Proffesor level then i will give it to ekiti/ondo/part of osun. Overall i give it to ekiti and ondo people because of their high percentage of highly educated people in their overall population.

Do you know that majority of Southerners are posted to the North and majority of Northerners are posted to the South? In my camp in Ogun State, there were more Northerners than people from any other Region. Does that make Northerners to be more educated than the South?

fizzyshoes: if you take your time and discover your potentials than you will know that poverty is a choice. Many people are wasting there time beating around the bush instead of looking means by which the can unfold there hidden potentials. Believe me or not what you need in life to succeed is in you, any battle you can not win in your heart you will never win it fiscal.

All your post are based on theory and make no sense in modern day Nigeria. Some people work very hard than you can think of, but things dont turn out the way they expect. Its a matter of planning and opportunity. If one is missing, the other is useless

musKeeto: Can you admit that the 'curse' is 'causing' Boko Haram to give free security 'courses' to Nigerian security services?

More bomb blast in the church and public places.

naijaobi: explained what?? if you dont want to answer my question then keep mute and stop referring me to an unseen post as u claim..

You don't have to insult someone to get them to help you.

logicboy: You're not using your brain. Did you just say that as a slavery apologist? To minimize the evil that was done by Europeans of that time?

1) The were Jewish people who collaborated with the Nazis. Do we blame Jews for the holocaust?

2) Slaves were never a commodity in Nigerian tribes, especially in the south before Europeans came. Neighboring tribes were killed but never enslaved. Where was the need for slaves in West African societies before Eurpeans and Arabs came? A family worked on their own farm - the wives and children joined in the labour. Where was the need for slaves?

3) Do you think it is easy to sell your fellow brothers into slavery? Considering point number 2, how many rich Nigerian slave traders did we hear about and do you think that the FEW who sold slaves did it out of pleasure or fear?



Think before you talk

You behave like a child trying to force a new learnt believe on others. You don't have to resort to insult before making your point. Who sold the slaves to Europeans? You obviously don't know about the slave trade history. I am not trying to exonerate the white man for their crime, I just want to let you know that the African way of life with selfish interest and non cooperation among blacks fuelled the trade. Blacks were ready to go to war with neighbouring tribes just to get slaves to sell for bottles of gin, mirror, guns, etc.`I am 100% African, an agnostic and at thesame time realistic and analyse things from several perspectives. What you're all doing is failing to take responsibility for the contribution your race made to enslaving your own people, putting all the blame on the white man instead of coming together as a people to try and solve your common problem. The result of your actions is the civil war going on in the whole of Africa.

logicboy: Where was the mutual respect when European christians took my ancestors as slaves?

Remember your black ancestors sold your ancestors to the Europeans.

wine4dguy: I never wanted to make dis statement but no matter the situation it is right i make dis confession that THESE ARE SIGNS OF ENDTIME...ask God for grace to make it through

What is the relationship between things of the world and end time? Its better you don't comment than saying nonesense