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For Christ Sake's Moderator give my thread visibility.

stagger: Another example of how people want to bypass understanding the fundamentals. There is already a very vibrant BOM thread. The speed with which this one reached 10 pages was a clear warning that something about this offer was too good to be true. Well, it obviously now is.

The sad part? This will happen again in another form.

you are right about that but do you know what, It may not be easy for people to get scammed on here because I am taking it up soon.

I have made a post about this we have about 10 reply but what I don't like about NL is how the mods handle threads. Actually, I can't even find my thread anymore which I started and not that is has reach the bottom of this forum but it just vanished just like that.

How could modes allow a more educative thread to be hidden and a scam-made thread to be visible? This one reason why people are scammed here and I will not let seun rest until my voice is heard.

Don't worry guys, we will fish them out on after the other. Sanity must be restored.

OP, I commented on here but as you can see, the post is hidden probably because I mention how much copywriters earned.

Please call the number I gave in my signature below so that I can tell you what I posted and which was deleted.

You made the right choice to be a copywriter and if you listen and apply what I shall tell you, you can build you own mansion with money from copywriting. How? Because they are the most sought after online. But you must be ready to work hard. ... And the result? You are in mill ion s.

Just give me a call today and I will spill the beans. You should have enough airtime on your phone o o o.

Oh Jamji... I see that you are in the league of those asking members to drop their email id for one business idea or the other.

No wonder you didn't like my suggestion. Now tell me how does that educate members of this forum? A forum like this should be an avenue to gain knowledge and soon very soon, your likes will no longer be accepted here. Because I will educate the people. Education is freedom. I let them know how to avoid scams and other vices.

Jamji: It is still a forum where people come to share business ideas too and it still remains that way. I dont see any change at all. What also make people keep their best is the way it is appreciated on this forum, very less appreciated. When a new biz idea comes up people start shouting fraud fraud before it even gets to the heart. We cant talk about mlm and network marketing programs here as seun has stopped those topics long ago. So people have to request for those information. Your problem is betonmarket related and alparifx should either send you your package or refund your money.

you are dead wrong my friend. I never bought anything from the said alparfx scammer. To be frank with you, I don't buy ebooks just to learn anything. I have my method for getting anything I want to learn without paying a dime for it--RESEARCH! And I also get ebooks for that. For instance, I am currently studying marketing,advertising and copywriting this subjects are not cheap if I wish to pay to acquire knowledge of it. Copywriting would have me cough out nothing less than 100 dollars or more to get materials and one on one training is very expensive. But the good thing is that copywriters are the most sought after and most paid on the internet. Most of the very good ones are millionaires no kidding. And you won't believe that I have gotten over 50% of the materials I need without paying a dime. I didn't hack any website or anything of that sought.

I am too smart to fall for that rubbish. As a matter of fact, what I shall be discussing in the aformentioned time are just things I got by self-developement.

I don't do forex and I don't like it not because it doesn't work, but because(most people don't know yet) it takes time or several months to learn. Forex is like going the university.

Besides, what alparifx did is a very powerful tool that can make even a secondary school leaver a millionaire if done rightly. Some folks have used it to buy house, cars and became realtors and right here in naija. But if such system got into the hand of a thief, the like of alparifx is the result. Now, who is foolish? Someone who has a long term goal and makes millions in the process or someone who is myopic and scam people?

You don't see any change because you don't like what I have state or suggested. At the internation forum where I belong, you don't do what people do here. If you do that, you get ban straight up!

Concerning the issue of people calling fraud, is it not true? One guy even claimed that he lost 120k. I don't do fx but i have heard people say they have been scammed on here,especially fx related issues.

There will be changes my friend. The change is to give nairaland business section a good face lift, a new brand, image. But if you don't like it, I urge you to leave. And I don't think Seun wouldn't want to co-operate in this or be silly enough to turn a blind eye to what I am saying. If he does, then that means he does not love his members or have their interest at heart.

If you actually want to write as a copywriter by writing copy that sell products and service then I urge you to learn from the masters of the game in advertising and marketing.

You have made the write choice brother because if you know your way, you can get paid as much as 5000 dollars just to write one copy, but you must be good and very good at making word sell. Copywriters are the most highly paid online and they are mostly millionaires.

But at this stage, I doubt if you know how to make word sell. So, visit www.warriorforum.com and scroll down untill you find the copywriting section. Click on it and read every page and recommended books because they will help you in long run. If you have any question for me, call my number today and please specify how and where you got my number and your reason for calling. Plus load your phone with a enough credit so that we can talk for long.

Thanks man. Firstly, there should be zero tolerance for scam and this style of asking people for their email address should be suspended.

Also, those who spam this forum by dropping irrelevant urls which does not make any sensd should be banned. This includes those who just say you should visit so and so link for how to make money. Stuffs like get paid to surf,read,click etc.

Any post that does not impact knowledge or value should be warned by the mode and if the poster persist, he should be banned for 2weeks before reinstating its membership.

We must make people trust nairaland, we must make people respect nairaland, the name nairaland should be a brand synonymous to integrity,trust,security,hope and accountability.
We must make people behave while on this community.

And whoever does not want to co-operate should ply his trade else where.

This shouldn't be a place where every tom,dik, and harry come to do stealing.

Again people who do not want to co-operate and those that have scammed members should be IP-banned. That means you can't open another account under a different name and continue and such a ban will even help to reduce scams by 80%. Please Seun Osewa or the mod, kindly look for a way to add this function as it is very important.

I will do what I can. There's something we can do. I want to make this section a place where people could come with no hope and money in their pocket but leave with riches or something like that.

That's what I gained at the international business forum and its the tradition there to give members free information that will transform their lives and then they come back to give an account or testimony of what they did and how much they have made. I for one got an information which I hope will bring me 25k-50k dollars within one year from scratch and I learnt it at that forum. Why can't nairaland biz section be the same?

So folks brace yourself because that is the future of this forum. A place where people can find hope, ideas and riches.

God help us all

Sorry guy... I will advice that everyone on this forum should stay away from anything called soccer betting, betonmarket, forex. Do not buy any ebook from anyone.

After reading about what went on here, yesterday I made a post about wanting to educate people about money and business principles, which I believe would be a panacea to many and prevent further lose of hard earned monies.

I know that with such education and information which I am equipped with, its very hard for anyone to sell me anything. I mean anyone. Why? Because I know how the whole system about making money online and offline works. And if you know what I know, I tell you, it would be hard for anyone to scam you.

But friends, the MOD deleted that post. I guess I will take this up with Seun Osewa and we must find a solution to put all this scammers at bay.

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thanks! But what I had in Mind was SOME. I guess I must have missed it due to the fact that I was preparing for a test at the time I posted.

Dear Fellow N'lander,

I wish to bring to your notice that people are getting scammed on here without a way to get back their money and there's one currently going on now title: Bad News For Betonmarket.

This is a case where someone claim to have a package to sell to this honourable community but after purchase, no package was delivered or there's a more than expected prolonged delay.

I can not but ask myself why can't a Nigerian trust his fellow Nigerian when it comes to money or business issues? Why do we have to compound problems? Should we be more of a problem or more solution?

Going over this thought as I ponder has really made me bitter. The MOD on here needs to up his game in order to bring sanity to this section and we all will to work with him to ensure that it's a success.

Alparifx has abscond with people's money and does not want to refund them. Why? I wouldn't be quick to label him a scammer yet till he prove he is one.

Fellow nairalander, it's not that internet marketers are bad but we all should know by now that it is almost the custom of most Nigerians to turn a white clothe to black. Bring in any idea from a white man's country and see your Nigerian brother destroy its form. That's what most Nigerian internet marketer's are fond of doing.

Also, most of them don't even know what a business is or the money rule that governs it. Nigerians are known for their myopic nature which has further compounded their problems, take a look at the present state of our government.

Take a look at this --> http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-marketing-discussions/576352-how-i-make-40-000-per-month-offline-marketing-backwater-african-country-part-2-a.html where a Nigerian in the part one of it which got deleted, claimed to make $40000 per month just by offering services to companies. He claimed that he work with 7 client but I could not bare the fact his was lying. I had to attack him. I didn't want him to tarnish the image of Nigeria worse than it is at present. Why? We all know that but what made me do such was the fact that a Nigerian had previously scammed some members of that forum and considering that it is an international forum, you should know the magnitude of the effect on noble Nigerians. The guy was exploiting members of the forum till he got caught.

To those who have fallen prey to these predators, I would like to educate you on money principles, offline and online business. As a matter of fact, there isn't any difference in rules between the two,except the medium. I want to share my knowledge so that people wouldn't fall prey to scams and I must tell you, if you understand how the money principle, business system work, you will hardly fall for scams.

I am currently preparing for my exam so by 20th of next month, I would come here and educate you on business, especially internet business. We shall touch base at every corner of it. Insteadt of just one focus, I would prefer it to be general question and answer section. We shall talk about every internet business under the sun, their pros and cons. That means, whatever you have had difficulties with will be solve here.

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Thank you and Godbless.

slimyem: 2sexy......always whining about one heartbreak or another...
Smh!

What about you? I go dig your past. Just wait for me to the time for that.

Lord_Reed: So he is known for girl troubles? LoL what an identity!

So? WTF... Screw you!

freecocoa: Thought you learnt that 2 years ago or more after she dumped you.

Freecocoa, dis na different person o. Y would still have dat tissue paper in hand. Dat 1 life no good again o. I beg no remind me of dat wi.tch.

Na she dey run after me sef but seriously, I no wan carry STD. Cos d last I saw her, she's become a shadow of her old self. Too much 4.u.c.k don spoil dat 1 life which was what she wanted and I let her be.

I'm staying away from this daughters of eve for good. I may give one a chance later though and if that one Bleep, na him b say me and Naija chicks become water and fire. Yup! I go just stay away. I can't keep up with them.

Yeah... No good experience with any. There may be some good once out there but I never met anyone. If any guy has met one, he sure is lucky. It's either they are lying, or playing on ones intelligence at another time. To the guy who said I may have done something wrong, I will swear that I am have never in my life done such.

The truth is that its even best that you never nice to them or be good at lying, and claim what you are not. The reason why I keep having problem is that I just don't like to lie or want to be faster than my shadow when dealing with them.
Over 80% don't deserve any good in this life.

If any Nland lady like make she counter me, I no reason you 1bit. I am being realistic here don't tell me some silly fairy tale.

Idowu, next no time dont talk about my mum u hear?

I'm staying away from this daughters of eve for good. I may give one a chance later though and if that one Bleep, na him b say me and Naija chicks become water and fire. Yup! I go just stay away. I can't keep up with them.

Yeah... No good experience with any. There may be some good once out there but I never met anyone. If any guy has met one, he sure is lucky. It's either they are lying, or playing on ones intelligence at another time. To the guy who said I may have done something wrong, I will swear that I am have never in my life done such.

The truth is that its even best that you never nice to them or be good at lying, and claim what you are not. The reason why I keep having problem is that I just don't like to lie or want to be faster than my shadow when dealing with them.
Over 80% don't deserve any good in this life.

If any Nland lady like make she counter me, I no reason you 1bit. I am being realistic here don't tell me some silly fairy tale.

Idowu, next no time dont talk about my mum u hear?

Idowuogbo: 2sexy, wetin dey worry u? if u no trust ur own mama who u wan trust? is ur maley white?

idowu... Wetin bring my mama own 4dis. Omo no go there o o o. I no dey joke with my mama mata not even online. Next time talk 2me straight and leave mama out dis. Crack joke anyhow but never talk about my mum. I won't take it from you. She's late anyway so please don't.

toluxa1: I wonder oooo, that excuse is so lame and silly. How can you say because one or two people complained they can't understand, you'll stop sending to everyone. Because Mr A doesnt understand doesnt mean Mr B won't. By the way why not send it first let them see what they have paid for and then if they don't understand you can send the edited version. More lies and lies spilling out.

Despite all the scams over this forum, I can't believe that people still fell for this crap.

nedbert: Why should a marketer refuse to send a package to a customer that paid since friday,,and refuse to reply his mails,,yet pple here are sayin they have received,,pple that are just postin first time,,when did you pay and receive,,if so,,why is he sending to some and refusing to send to some,,even after confirmin he has received the money,,why are we always makin things difficult,,must we quarrel,,can't we just do business in peace and every1 is happy..do sm1 have LR to pay and see if the instant download on his site is true or fake.

Good question. Anybody that come here claiming that he has received a package, just look up the guys profile and you will know when he joined the forum. The date and number of post will speak volume. Even those claiming to have gotten the package should be investigated.

Do you see that the alparifx guy no dey show face again? Hmmm.... Naija I hail thee.

Na so one come international forum where people from around the world dey converge and cliamed that he makes $40,000 every month. I had to attack the guy before he further damage the image of Naija. We are the cause of our own problems... Always looking for short cut to success which is not possible. Even if you get the money, it won't be long before sickness and other forms of mishap collect the money. Go ask people who have done it before. I have seen it happen to more than 4 419ers back in the days b4 the advent of internet. Anyway, I will leave this country by late 2013 or early 2014... So I no get wahala with nonsense.

azpekuliar: Wetin com b ur friend?.....Aproko

i don't need to talk much but I will ask zeddicus to speak. Ask him about me and he will tell you.

Besides, I have my own internet business model. Which I would hardly come on nairaland to start selling ebooks like the OP. Nairaland too small for me.

Talk about someone who has helped more people with the right info for free and instead getting greedy.

What I am about to start in 2month from now is a enough for me to make more than $2000-$4000(if c arefully implemented)every month without selling how-to-make-money-online ebooks like I see many people doing or hosting seminars. By the time I go do that one sef, na im b say I wan pack my load comot 4naija. That means I will keep the thing to myself alone. No need for selling ebooks or info

And you know what? Nobody is using the method in Naija and that means more money for me because they are busy doing google adsense, affiliate marketing, information marketing, forex,bond, shares blah blah blah... Which my model is not.

So, my friend, carry on with your head breaking, heart-attacking forex. While me I go dey my own corner they make cool cash $£€¥ cha ching.

My joy is that I will have NO COMPETITION! Imagine how much the man who introduced pure water into naija made before brain-lazy people come begin copy the guy and spoil market then you will know what I mean here.

Shooo... Go play with heart attack,emotions and forex...

That's what I just learnt...

Inemobot: Pls i'm in need of money and i am looking for a simply way to make it. Any idea will be okay. Thanks for ur reply.

online biz is simple but not easy. Think about that.

Something is fishy here. How come only one person here has received the package and the alparifx isn't even showing up at this thread.

Hmmm... Make una take time o. Well for me, forex or trading no b my friend.

neksummi: Etrade don't offer the bank account I'm looking for. I was in contact with them in 2008 and they told they'd stopped accepting Nigerians.



Thanks for this useful contribution. I was Guaranty Trust Bank Yola on Friday and the manager told me about UK address/utility bill stuff and I don't have that requirement.

About cards having US accounts linked, I'm in contact with a particular guy who offers the service at $95. It was $70 a few days ago but is now $95. My problem with the guy is that he has never replied any of the emails I sent him! My fear is if he doesn't reply my letters now that I'm trying to buy something from him, is it when I've paid him that he's going to respond to me? Don't know if anyone has had dealings with him: ewealthsuccess dot com?

I'll appreciate it if you told me the site you got your card from.

My desire is not just to receive payments from US or Uk cos I have a GTBank Dom account that could handle that. There's a particular payment processor I want to use for a business and Nigeria is not among the supported countries but some African's countries are. So that's the reason I'm looking for US or UK account.

Thanks for your contributions.

so na paypal dey make u do all this wahala? I laugh in tahiti.

Man, I don't have a paypal account yet I operate it from naija without getting banned and I never paid a dime to operate it. That's how I sold my website to an American last December.

Anyway, its going to be one of my product to sell. Yup! My own paypal secret lol!

Wow. Nice one there. I actually learnt about etrade bank at dollarat.com back in 2008 after series of google search...

karlxavier: @2sexy,dis is me karlxavier. Hw far? Pls,i will like u to teach me that website flipping stuff and internet marketing. How can i contact u? At integrtyfoods,can one start a fish farm with 150k and still make good returns?

Karlxavier, na you dey talk like this?

O boy. Man, sorry to say this but I just got to tell you this truth, you don't need website flipping. What you need now is how business work online and offline because I realize something about you; you always jumb from one venture to another and this is not good for someone who want to succeed.

First of all, I will teach you about how business work online then we shall then talk about the website flipping.

Kaysalas: hi, bro. Kindly send details to kaysalas at yahoo dot com. Thnks

kaysalas, if you got any problem, just load your phone with enough airtime and give me call. Ask as much question as you can and I will answer. My number is in my signature, but only call me on saturday morning o.

neksummi: Still need more info.

I remember those days when we were crazy about US bank account.

Well check e-tradebank. Well fargo is one as stated but I think you may have your problem solve at etradebank. I can't remember the url but google knows it. *winks*

OP, I wished I could suggest something but the truth is that no matter what I say, you would hardly understand much. No thanks to the fact that most people aren't financially intelligent nor skilled.

Firt of all, get this two 3 books and read them:1. Rich Dad Poor Dad, 2. Rich Dad's Guide to Investment 3. Think and Grow Rich. This will help you develop the kind of mind needed to excel in business,but not absolutely though. Atleast, that should be a starting point.

Do you have a laptop? If you do, I could show you a way to download the books free.
Call me on saturday, 23rd of june . My number is in my signature so that I can advice you.

Its because lagos has information hungry people than other state.

Hey, if you install joomla,drupal or wordpress, please do not consider yourself a webdeveloper. I can do or install the above but never consider myself a webdeveloper because going by the real meaning of a webdeveloper, I am not one.

Webdeveloper code and develop application. But like one American said of Nigerian webdeveloper, they lack the skill to sell. That's where entrepreneurship come in. The reason why most American webdevelopers make huge cash is that they know how to sell.

What you may not know is some people get jobs from big companies in US in thousands of dollars and then outsource it.

If you must succeed as a webdeveloper, then I urge you to learn how internet business work... Big companies like facebook, Google are buying up website and apps. Facebook is about to buy face.com. How is that? Check out face.com and see what you can achieve as a webdeveloper.