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nijiatech78:
You people running to China for Infrastructure financing better learn from Italy. Today Italy is grounded and economically controlled by China who invested heavily in their Ports and Textile industries. They used Italy as a gateway to Europe and today they even have their national bank in Italy used as a conduit pipe to funneled billions of $ from their numerous businesses back to China. BE WISE MY PEOPLE AND THREAD WITH CAUTION WHEN SEEKING FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM CHINA

Would be where Italy is than where Nigeria is...
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Xano:
interesting

Lekki Port LFTZ Enterprise Limited (LPLEL) has now received the infusion of $221,047, 248 equity funding from China Harbour Engineering Company (CHEC), one of the shareholders of the Lekki Deep Sea Port Project currently under construction at the Lagos Free Trade Zone, Ibeju Lekki.

We know Chinese run the Lekki Free Trade Zone. Now, they run the Lekki Deep Sea Port

Did the Chinese invent Lekki? Wasn’t it always there?

Nigerians were busy doing Owambe and bitching about challenges (that is, when they are not too busy fighting and killing each other over tribal nonsense), and the Chinese came all the way from across the globe and saw the very same challenges as OPPORTUNITIES. Now that they’ve put in the hard work and put their money where their mouth is, Nigerians have returned to what they do best - xenophobia and bitching!
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bolicks:
Gradually, China is Taking over the Country's Strategic Assets. Great indebtedness looming and eventual Handover to he who pays the Piper. Let's keep Clapping.

kellidoo:
China giving out funds to claim assets in the Future......same thing they have done to US after releasing corona virus.

Lonelyhrt1:
Hmm, I see China taking over most of our national assets in the near future if we can't fund or pay back our loans

How is it a “national asset”?
Without the Chinese money to develop it, it would just be forest and swamp land.

Meanwhile, if you cannot pay back loans why shouldn’t the lender seize the asset?
It’s unfortunate that Nigerian ‘culture’ does not seem to prioritize or value probity.
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SHEDIOT!
When you were chopping the money he stole, nko? SMH
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Shoddy Naija workmanship again?
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maybanks:
May be I should ask where you were when the PDP Government under GEJ claimed it has diversified the Economy then under it's fraudulent rebasing of the economy. We all know how Okonjo-Iweala peddled that lie then that the economy is now set ice based that it doesn't depend on oil anymore. Infact they went to dole out money to Nollywood actors and actresses then with nothing to show for it. If there's proof that any government has diversified the economy then you should give the Buhari administration the credit for doing that. The Rice revolution is a good example. Or will you tell me you haven't have a taste of local rise all this while...

You mean the one started under Jonathan as part of Adewumni’s ATA (Agricultural Transformation Agenda)?

Personally, I think BOTH the PDP and the APC are two sides of the SAME rotten corrupt coin...
But frankly the best thing anyone can say about Buhari is that he is humble enough to COMPLETE his predecessors’ good projects.

Railways, NIPP, Abuja Metro, ATA backward integration, TSA, IPPIS, etc., were all started by previous administrations...
Frankly, the only original idea one can really credit to Buhari is the monthly transfer of N5K (of mainly Niger Delta oil money) to his Almajiri Army.
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Coldie:
To me all these talks are unnecessary the govt can solve the problems.

Since we don't have money, get a list from Nigerian customs abt the break down of things Nigeria imports, all of them that we can produce internally should be banned. Saving our foreign exchange.

Recognize Nigerian degrees over foreign degrees so as to limit the capital flights arising from tuition payment.

Start a sting operation on our police force and govt workers in order to catch corrupt police officer's and govt workers.

The list goes on.

eodavids:
You are on point.
Abuja needs to know we have good thinking heads around the country. It's unfortunate the ones that clinch power gets confused. Sometimes, they dwell too much on grammers with minimal results.

No, he’s NOT “on point” at all...

Banning all foreign goods that can plausibly be produced domestically in Nigeria will most likely saddle Nigerian consumers (already reputedly the World Capital of Extreme Poverty) with overpriced sub-standard goods. For instance (to use a rather basic example), the only/primary reason that Nigerian local rice processors started to invest in de-stoning equipment was because Nigerians were willing to pay more for imported rice, without the adventure of picking out stones or facing a considerable risk eating about as much gravel as rice.

Accordingly, the best way to ensure that local producers will strive to innovate and to produce to the highest possibly global standards is to ensure that they are compelled to compete on both price and quality with global brands. The real problem is that Nigeria ties the hands of domestic producers behind their backs and renders them inherently uncompetitive right off the bat by failing to provide adequate reliable electricity and horrendously-poor road and logistics infrastructure, not to mention a pool of poorly-educated and poorly-skilled manpower.

These are the core underlying issues that Nigeria needs to address and redress, not the economic populism of banning foreign goods and creating domestic oligarchies/monopolies that (in the absence of meaningful competition) simply saddle poor overburdened Nigerian consumers with overpriced or higher-priced products. Meanwhile, “recognizing” local degrees over foreign ones is a substantive irrelevancy, since most people with a GOOD foreign decree are not looking for government jobs and private companies will continue to recruit the best available talent.

Let’s not become one of those farmers whose farm is on fire and is instead busy chasing rats escaping the blaze. Let’s redress the REAL issues!
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We have National Economic Council...
We have Economic Advisory Council...
And now we have Economic Sustainability Committee.

And yet the economy SUCKS! SMDH
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How to cope with a 'stingy' boyfriend? MAKE YOUR MONEY!
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gcey2k:
The four students were said to have contracted the virus while moving from one part of the UK to another to find means of survival.

Four Nigerian students in the United Kingdom have tested positive for Coronavirus.
The students are beneficiaries of the 2019 Niger Delta Development Commission Scholarship Programme.

SaharaReporters had published that the students were abandoned in the UK for eight months by the NDDC under Niger Delta Affairs Minister, Godswill Akpabio, and the President Muhammadu Buhari-led administration.

The four students were said to have contracted the virus while moving from one part of the UK to another to find means of survival.
A colleague of the affected students, who spoke with SaharaReporters, said, “The students are currently being quarantined at one of the NHS centres in their neighbourhood.
“They have been fending for themselves and now, they have no money as they can’t go out to work.”

The identity and treatment centres of the Nigerians are kept hidden by authorities due to the Data Protection Act 2008.
The students are appealing to the Nigerian Government for immediate intervention.

The latest incident comes a few days after SaharaReporters reported the death of a Nigerian doctor in UK, Alfa Sa'adu, to Coronavirus.
The elderly man had visited a hospital as a consultant to help patients of Coronavirus when he contracted the virus and died.

lalasticlala mynd44 dominique

Source: http://saharareporters.com/2020/04/02/nigerian-students-uk-test-positive-coronavirus

They CANNOT work anyway as foreign students...
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princemillla:
I doubt if she ran a test to conform she is negative befor roaming. Irrespective of the days in isolation, there is need to get tested as most Nigerians do not show symptoms

If asymptomatic for 14 days of isolation...
You are either negative or the virus is out of your system.
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ivolt:
Since plane works how about you exchange your pilot with any random passenger aboard?

Just another coronavirus?
It is pointless debating any longer, this isn't politics and you haven't shown a proper
understanding of epidemics nor the risk it poses.

Strawman Argument...

Even though I never characterized it as “just another coronavirus”...

1) it is nonetheless a coronavirus - that’s FACT (not an opinion);
2) it does not have a higher mortality rate than other beta coronaviruses - FACT;
3) it is however more infectious than most other coronaviruses - FACT;
4) accordingly, it overwhelms healthcare systems and result in more fatalities - FACT.

I realize that a common feature of most Nigerians in public discourse is to attack the discussant(s) instead of addressing substance, but I deal in FACTS (and largely ignore crude ad hominem attacks), so if you cannot address the FACTS under discourse be humble enough to LEARN!
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Kkshanana90:
Well, you’re entitled to your opinion and I must respect that. It is important to point out, however, that going out to shop for groceries, buy drugs or do exercise is not illegal here. The government is aware of how important they are to us. They specifically made exception to the aforementioned and many others.

You don’t create a bigger problem whilst finding solutions to the COVID-19 pandemic!

I specifically highlighted only the exercise part and left out shopping (presumed it was for food and not rags)...
Folks can exercise at home, for even if it’s not “illegal” there’s absolutely no need to be outside if they can avoid it.

As we have seen over and over again...
The government hasn’t always made the smartest decisions wrt this pandemic, and EVERYONE has a role to play.

Good luck to us all.
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tot:
That is YET to be proven.

A pathogen is considered ‘airborne’ if it can spread via smaller particles which can remain in the air for long periods of time, and it is not yet known for how long coronavirus stays in the air around us.

The exact length of time viral particles in general hang in the air before they dissipate depends on a variety of things, including the temperature and humidity of the area and other mitigating factors about the surrounding environment.

Due to COVID-19 being a new virus, the exact amount of time it spends in the air before falling to the floor or a surface is unclear.

Correct...
A lot has yet to be “proven” about Covid-19, but we have working data/evidence.

It’s a new virus, so understandably we are still learning a LOT about it...
Nonetheless, the OVERWHELMING evidence thus far is that the Covid-19 is not airborne.

The few musings about Covid-19 aerosols have not shown that (even if existent) they can infect cells. Conversely, the most definitive WHO study thus far (75,000 cases in China) found only droplet infections, while a Singapore study could not find any viral aerosols in Isolation Centers.
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ivolt:
Testing is needed!
Self-isolation was a failure in South Korea until the authority woke up from their false sense of security.
All it takes is one person to not cooperate. In SK, one person was reported to have infected hundreds of worshippers
by attending church service against health body's recommendation

I am discussing the practical experience of other countries not theoretical musings.
No suspected case should be free without testing.

No single country has been successful via self-isolation.
It failed in the UK, the US, Italy, Spain and almost drag down Germany before their government wake up.

It is a combination of test + quarantine + face mask + retesting.
I would rather the country is safe than gambling with some failed strategy.

Absolutely NOT!

While South Korea tested relatively way more people (and much earlier on) than Western nations have done, it (building on its SARS experience and the system infrastructure developed thereafter) nonetheless primarily used aggressive contact-tracing together with ISOLATION and/or QUARANTINE to successfully tackle the rapid spread Covid-19 (and btw, success here is a relative term because it does not mean eradication and there are still new infections daily as we write). Specifically, South Korea used text messages and apps to inform/compel people who may have been in contact with a positive case to isolate, and to continually track positive cases and keep the community informed so that people may take necessary measures to protect themselves. This is why South Korea’s strategy raised privacy and human rights’ concerns.

Finally, it is simply incorrect to say that self-isolation does not work. That’s akin to saying that planes do not work - because some folks have flown them poorly and killed hundreds of folks in plane crashes. Covid-19 is NOT an airborne virus and is only spread by people moving around and being in close personal contact with others, Accordingly, proper isolation and social distancing would SUCCESSFULLY AND EFFECTIVELY break the chain of infection, slow the rate, and flatten the infection curve, allowing healthcare systems to more effectively cater for the afflicted. It’s a virus, and does not live on forever. The most unique and dangerous characteristic of Covid-19 thus far (and as a new virus, we still have much to learn about it) has been the rapid rate of infection. It is no more lethal than other coronaviruses (about a 2% mortality rate), but because of that rapidity of transmission it overwhelms the healthcare system and makes it impossible to properly manage the most extreme cases.

The bottom line, therefore, is that if you cannot test everyone (and NO country - not even South Korea - has remotely tried to do so) or even simply everyone who needs to be tested (and even in the richest and most advanced nations such as the US and even the UK, several people showing symptoms or who have been in contacts with positive cases, have experienced difficult and/or considerable delays in getting tested), the next best thing is to embark on a course of action that would most effectively or efficiently slow down (and it does NOT have to be 100% effective or compliant) the rate of infection. The real danger is NOT in having 1000 positive cases, but in having same simultaneously. If you have 1000 cases spread over 20 weeks, even a nation with a creaking healthcare system like Nigeria can successfully manage the pandemic.
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And yet Filipinos come to Nigeria to work in nail salons, spas and restaurants...
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sammyj:
One of my colleague ran to Osun as an escape rout from Lagos only the to discover that the virus moves faster than he could move. Chai this virus don show us and only God help us out from what this Chinese people and our elite has brought upon us!!

The Covid-19 virus does NOT move...
It is NOT airborne or otherwise mobile.

It’s PEOPLE who move - and spread it around...
Those returnees (and your pal) should’ve sat their behinds in one place!
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Those 1918 facilities are BETTER than we have in many Nigerian states in 2020...
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salt1:
The country is poor. Very poor. I know that we were told that Nigeria is a rich country with abundant resources and bad leaders. But the truth is that we're a poor nation.
What we find annoying is that our leaders, instead of leveraging on our limited resources to improve our lot, behave like irresponsible fathers squandering family funds on alcohol

Bless you!
But our resources are NOT limited.

Human beings are the GREATEST resource any nation can have...
Unfortunately, we are not properly “leveraging” ours by educating/training them.
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It’s a feel-good story, but...

We know the REALITY is that even within Nigeria’s limited healthcare system, there’s a CASTE system...
Even if there’s just one ventilator in each hospital or even in each state, you and I know who’s going to get it.
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IYANGBALI:
even after having contact with an infected person? You try Doctor TIMEISWISDOM

YES! So long as you properly self-isolate...
After 14 days, if you remain asymptomatic you were either not infected or the virus has left your system.

Covid-19 is NOT a death sentence...
If you are asymptomatic, the real danger is infecting others. It will not remain in your system like Herpes.
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ivolt:
That is a sure way to cause a local epidemic.
Many countries have learnt the hard way

You should get tested if you have any possible contacts with an infected person.
That is how South Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong stopped the exponential growth.

If contacts self-isolate (or are isolated) for 14 days and remain asymptomatic, testing is not needed. The KEY tool - attendant to contact tracing - was self-isolation in South Korea (enforced quarantine in Singapore, which did not trust people to properly self-isolate).
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Much ado about NOTHING really...

It’s called CONTACT TRACING...
Those who had been in contact with Mr. Abba Kyari are “traced” and asked to self-isolate for 2 weeks.

Covid-19 is NOT airborne, so even among such contacts...
There’s close, general and distant contacts (the latter could be working in the same office but not in close proximity).

If a contact develops symptoms, she/he is then tested and if positive taken to a facility...
Contacts who do NOT develop symptoms after the 14-day window (even if infected) simply rejoin society.

Nigeria simply does not have the capacity to test everyone - and in fact NO country does...
And thus, given such relative scarcity of testing resources, PRIORITY is accorded to the symptomatic.

If these folks have completely self-isolated for 2 weeks without developing symptoms...
They were either NOT infected or, if they were (but remained asymptomatic), the virus has left their system.
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Kkshanana90:
What’s exactly your point?

That the military should kill innocent civilians because there is a lockdown order?

Nigeria has less than 200 cases and about 2 deaths. I live in a country and continent with thousands of cases and thousands of deaths. Yet I can go out for exercise and shopping without police harassment. I seldom see the military.

There can’t be a complete lockdown and people should be allowed to go out to get foodstuffs.

The military is wrong! You don’t kill those that you’re meant to protect. Nigeria is not at war. Enough is enough!

I will stand by my Warri people, anytime.

I obviously do not support the killing of any civilians (the military should not have been involved in law enforcement in the first instance) - and neither do I support any so-called ‘retaliatory’ killings by civilians (and I bet any soldiers killed would likely NOT be the perpetrator).

Nonetheless, folks like YOU are the problem with the geometric spread of Covid-19 (just like those Spring Break dumbos in Florida). The Covid-19 virus is NOT an airborne virus and does migrate or move from place-to-place. Rather, it is people who carry it around and spread it. If you folks will just sit your behinds at HOME, we can get break the chain of infection, flatten the infection curve and better handle this scourge.

Meanwhile, please do not compare Nigeria with wherever you may be. Nigeria’s creaking and fragile healthcare system cannot handle a massive surge of Covid-19 infections. Accordingly, the best bet we have is to do everything humanly possible to keep infection rates down. Again, soldiers are the worst possible tool to use for this, but EVERY resident should be taking responsibility for our collective well-being.

#TakeResponsibility
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spacechuks:
Dont compare us with UK or Italy, desperate times calls for desperate measures, in the USA as we speak, 6.6milion has filed for unemployment benefits which the government is oblige to honour, in shitehole Nigeria, you compel people to stay indoors knowing fully well that overwhelming population depends on self daily hustling to make ends meet., that guy that was killed might have gone out to perhaps search for money at the Atm or food for his family, why should you even shoot, stupid northern soldier . Meanwhile there is total darkness in most part of the country, staying indoor is killing and boring

Make that 10 million (6.6m this week + 3.3m last week)...

But hopefully you realize that it’s unemployment INSURANCE (and NOT a freebie)...
In other words, deductions are made from paychecks and benefits are paid to those ELIGIBLE when unemployed.

Meanwhile, most eligible Nigerians don’t even pay basic taxes.
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ZOO!
BOTH the military and civilians act like BARBARIANS!
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nashito:
I Just Found That My Gf Who Always Says She Doesn't Like Sex Is Porn Addict

Needless to write long articles, I met this girl recently, who I met online and prior to that, she has always portrayed to be a good lady and I must confess I somehow see her as someone I might marry soon.

But to my greatest surprise, this afternoon, I wanted to check something with her phone (Google Chrome) and I saw over 3 opened porn pages, infact, her first bookmarked page is a porn site, guys what do you think about this?

I've never seen this part of her and during sex I kinda don't want to hit hard cos I have this mentality that she's gonna be my wife soon & to be frank, I'm not much into sex and I don't want to marry someone that's a sex addict.

Should I be worried about this? Please I need matured and rational advise guys. Thanks a lot

]You seem to be the one with the bigger problem...smh
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segzysexy:
With or without the outbreak, Nigeria needs more than 169 Ventilators across the country for other extreme medical cases. We just ain't getting things right in this country.

And if you read beyond headline...
Nigeria has MORE than 169 ventilators across the country.

As I said, what we have is sorely inadequate...
But we have to deal with today's REALITY, and get to the 'wish-list' later.
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Alvin212:
Stop making an azz of your self

Pull your head out of Oga George's azz...smh
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libertyfather:
Why this forest? No place in the city to convert? At least it for the main time...or they want lion and tiger to troop out and chop quarantine pipu?

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lekjons:
The government doesn't own the Telcos.

That probably news to Buharists...
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stickle:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11292319_img20200401064428_jpegb9b2724ca348cfda0f5817348c204ed3

Naijarians and files!

We may not be able to get rid of all paper...
But we should be digitizing most of these.

SAVE THE PLANET!
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