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SportsRe: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by abbey621(m): 3:56am On Nov 26, 2021
Cantonese:
I expected that response from you. Mourinho won this, Mourinho won that, etc. The question remains: looking at football holistically, who has impacted more?

The truth remains that Wenger revolutionized football in England and by effect the rest of the world. He came as an unknown person from an unknown Nagoya Grumpus in Japan and took English football by storm. The fact remains that he did not win many trophies, looking at his tenure with Arsenal,[s] but in all, every team in England and the rest of the world followed his football philosophy.[/s]

He changed their diet, he changed their training methods, he changed the pattern of soccer from the boring defensive form of play to an attacking form, that gave fans like you and I value for our money. I can go on and on. He encouraged youth, bought wisely and spent wisely. [s]His impact on English football paved the way for the employment of non English coaches in England, including Mourinho.[/s] He may not have won in Europe or with different teams like Mourinho, but that does not in anyway take away his impact. To whom honor is due, please do not fail to honor.

[s]Mourinho won several championships truthfully. But ask yourself what value he has so far added to football, except for introducing the boring defensive pattern of soccer that finally became his nemesis.[/s] Infact at certain times his players revolted against him. He once admitted that he was considering changing his pattern to a more attacking one. Is he not the one who removed our famous Mikel from an attacking midfield role to a defensive midfield role? Since he did that, did you closely take a look at Mikel’s career.

“Every coach has his or her era, show me a coach that has been dominant for over 2 decades and I'll show you some of his or her flaws”. What about Sir Alex Ferguson?

Every good coach worldwide, including Mourinho admitted that Wenger revolutionized football. That’s what I am letting to know.
Pure hogwash, every one of your point is highly contextual and pure sentiments, again I repeat, the greatest of coaches are known for winning trophies. As a person that likes attacking, I can't fault you for praising Wenger, same way you can't fault someone that likes a well solid defensive playstyle, football has evolved beyond just attacking. My gripe was never with Wenger but with you diminishing Mourinho's achievements, you could have hailed Wenger without dragging Mourinho down. You mentioned Ferguson which is good but even Fergie was not completely dominant for 2 decades, Mourinho made sure of that.
SportsRe: Arsene Wenger: Mikel Arteta Wants Ex-arsenal Boss To Return To Club by abbey621(m): 5:09pm On Nov 25, 2021
Cantonese:
And you think championships are won by power or having the best players and teams? If it were so why then did “common” Leicester city win the league that year with unknown names?

Your Mourinho who termed Wenger a specialist in failure, how far has he gone in the last few years? On two of occasions he has been sacked. Aside from the cups that he won, what other meaningful contribution has he made to the game?

To who honor is due please give it to him. The truth still remains that Wenger transformed football both in England and the rest of the world. What he missed by cups amassed, he won by his contributions to the development of football.
You're joking right, especially at the bolded? Every coach has his or her era, show me a coach that has been dominant for over 2 decades and I'll show you some of his or her flaws. Mourinho's contribution to the game cannot be diminished, hate or love him please don't ever utter such ridiculous statement again. He brought back defensive strength to England, he provided the blueprint how to defeat tiki-taka and massively overpowered attacking teams, a defensive genius. Yes he's beyond his prime now but do not ever compare a local champion like Wenger to Mourinho, they are not mates. You can try to to justify his inferior trophy count by saying he changed the game but the truth is simple, the greatest of coaches are known for winning, 2 decades in the Champions League and he only managed one final yet you disparage someone that won it with Porto of all teams, let's not even talk about Inter.....Guy don't get me angry grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Edwin Clark: Why Tinubu Is Afraid To Speak On Restructuring by abbey621(m): 4:56pm On Nov 25, 2021
[quote author=ChikezieU post=107952180][/quote]yOu DOnT hAVe bAlLs grin grin grin#clown
PoliticsRe: Edwin Clark: Why Tinubu Is Afraid To Speak On Restructuring by abbey621(m): 2:15pm On Nov 25, 2021
ChikezieU:
cause you don't have balls
What have you done with your balls beside constituting nuisance chasing neighborhood girls? grin grin grin grin If you wan die, Aso Rock no too far my guy grin
PoliticsRe: Edwin Clark: Why Tinubu Is Afraid To Speak On Restructuring by abbey621(m): 6:49am On Nov 25, 2021
lokoloko84:
Yea! the reason why these politicians are not in power to serve but to loot for themselves, families and cronies.
The people themselves made them powerful. Those you highlighted earlier were peaceful in their approach and unfortunately,the country is structured in such a way that she rewards violence.
I still insist that If the current politicians do not come back to their senses and do the needful, what will befall this country soon will be unimaginable.
Forget the relative peace you have in most parts of the country. A lot of stuff are going on beneath that most people are not even aware of.
I rest my case.
Who are the people that's going to rise up cause havoc? Same people that gladly sold their votes for a bag of rice? Same people that would rather argue online than to actually vote? Same people that can contribute money for BB9ja contestant but can't contribute money to form a politicial party that represents their values? Make I no talk o, abi na the people wey go protest for Lekki and after the shooting dem gentle o and now nobody's protesting again. Forget am, nothing dey happen, we never ready for true revolution. The politicians know that we would rather bash each other's religion and tribe than to come together and get things done. Forget am, we are still joking around, nobody is serious yet!
PoliticsRe: Edwin Clark: Why Tinubu Is Afraid To Speak On Restructuring by abbey621(m): 6:25am On Nov 25, 2021
lokoloko84:
I disagree with you. None of these politicians both from APC and PDP will agree with restructuring,talkless of breaking up because this structure favours them, making them unaccountable thereby getting away with a lot of illegalities and murder.
But they are decieving themselves,when you look critically at the country,the society is rotten politically, socially and economically.
There are a lot of injustices going on and so many persons or groups are just waiting for a spark to cause a serious commotion that will threaten this country worse than ENDSARS protest,that not even the security agencies will be able to stop it.
After this, restructuring or breaking up will be inevitable, though it will come at a cost.
Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth......Mike Tyson. Talk is cheap, are you ready to pay the cost? MKO, Dele Giwa and many others have paid the cost with their earthly life yet like Tupac said, STILL I SEE NO CHANGES! If we should elect you today, the last thing you would ever bring up is restructing, one threat against your life and gbam you do gentle o! Politicians are humans too, all the patriots are dead and buried!
HealthRe: Ikpeazu: Abia Gives ₦500, Delivery Packs To Women Who Deliver In PHCs by abbey621(m): 5:19am On Nov 25, 2021
I'm just trying to picture a Governor or Senator in the USA distributing $1 and calling it poverty alleviation or stimulus grin grin grin 9ja people are the most respectful and patient people in the world CONFIRM grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Edwin Clark: Why Tinubu Is Afraid To Speak On Restructuring by abbey621(m): 5:12am On Nov 25, 2021
An elder in the political game, if Tinubu ever made such a mistake he would be dead politically and perhaps physically. If he learned anything from MKO, it would be never to go against the powers that be until you become the power that is!

You wan restructure when Northerners still dey dominate legislative, executive and military? How you wan do am without blood everywhere?
PoliticsRe: Zainab Ahmed: We Can't Continue, Nigeria Losing N250bn Monthly On Fuel Subsidy by abbey621(m): 5:06am On Nov 25, 2021
The finance minister explained that the federal government will end fuel subsidy by 2022 and replace it with a N5000-a-month transportation grant to the poorest Nigerians.
Dem don come again.......Audio money grin grin grin
SportsRe: Man Utd In Talk With Valverde To Replace Solskjaer After Zidane, Pochettino Snub by abbey621(m): 8:43am On Nov 24, 2021
Perfect signing, excellent coach in fact all of PL will be thrilled to have such a fantastic coach, a dream come true for Watford.... I mean United grin grin grin
BusinessRe: US To Release 50M Barrel Oil Reserves In Attempt To Lower Prices by abbey621(m): 6:07am On Nov 24, 2021
Evangelynn:
The midterms will be interesting to watch but I just don't know why I feel if democrats sell their campaign well republicans won't win as expected but then what do I know some people are that dumb that they will vote in the opposition to obstruct the sitting president even if the policy will directly benefit their constituents.
I want to believe they aren't that stupid but then it's less than a year from now and the politics will change and other national issues will be on the spotlight one thing is quite certain turnout will be massive maybe like 2018 and 2020. One thing Trump did for black voters and youths was that he made them politically aware and their dislike for him drove them to the polls cheesy

@bold,who are you referring to grin grin
Yoruba people eat AMALA, some might eat it in PARIS but when I look at that tower, I can't help but to shout like mumu, HEY, OH, SEE, not OPC, I said, HEY, OH, SEE grin grin grin
BusinessRe: US To Release 50M Barrel Oil Reserves In Attempt To Lower Prices by abbey621(m): 5:22am On Nov 24, 2021
Evangelynn:
The laws are suppressive and target people of colour,Stacey Abrams explained it to congress when senator Kennedy tried to be smart by half.When republicans lose they try to change the rules


@bold,yeah DeSantis and Christie of the GOP will get elected over Biden or better still Trump comes back in 2024,some Americans aren't smart anyway and would rather believe lies than fact I disagree with bold anyway 2024 will be a different political climate.I don't think Biden will be a failure unless republicans control congress and try to frustrate him it all depends on how democrats decide to sell their campaign to independents
Yea people of color need to stop being non chalant, this is why the jail is full of so many petty crimes, we play too damn much grin. In terms of failure, not Biden personally but his presidency, remmeber over 74 million people voted for Trump so that is like 46% of the voting populace ready to pounce on him no matter what. I just believe age, political climate and the Democratic party's self sabotage during the midterms will end up making reelection almost mission impossible, heck next president might even be another Democrat with fire in HER belly grin.
BusinessRe: US To Release 50M Barrel Oil Reserves In Attempt To Lower Prices by abbey621(m): 4:36am On Nov 24, 2021
Evangelynn:
Actually I know this actually but for what he said it wasn't rigged and Biden's votes were not fraudulent.
Republicans are already passing laws in states they control to make it harder to vote and gerrymandering which will get challenged in court is already in full display in various states where the governor's have signed the new maps giving the republicans unfair advantages and oppressing voters of colour.

Since Trump came into power he amplified the toxicity of American politics, republicans will block anything even at the detriment of their constituents so as to block any win for Biden.
I know and for the robocalls that is why David Wohl is in trouble,America has advanced form of rigging and it starts from insane campaign donations and lobbying hence why I support Senators White House's bill against dark money in politics. cheesy
Let's be objective about this, similar tactics that Republicans are using now were in full force to get Biden the win especially in states like Georgia, California and Arizona. What gave Biden the victory was smart campaigning using Covid 19 as an excuse, in the history of U.S elections there has never been that many mail in ballots and historically Republicans vote very late and Democrats vote early. Nothing criminal about it but it sure is sketchy politics considering mail in ballots were counted last given the impression that Trump was well in the lead grin grin grin. Once again nothing criminal just cheeky grin grin

The bold part pof your statement concerns me because as a black man in America some of those voting reforms makes sense, WHY WOULD ANYONE REFUSE TO GET A PROPER FORM OF IDENTIFICATION TO VOTE? We require it for buying booze, cigarettes and many other things, why would something as sacred as voting require less scrutiny? Only reason I can think of is that historically people of color tend to be relaxed about these things, we hardly vote, we don't renew our license or update it in time etc, most of us would rather watch things on film than to read a book, guess the Republicans are exploiting the little loopholes they can so as to counteract the Democrats borderline harrassment tactics during elections grin grin grin.

In the end, I believe Biden will be just as big of a failure as Trump and won't get reelected, not because of anything he did but because the American populace is so much on edge right now that even little victories feel like defeat, the political climate is so hot right now that small things like taking a nap during a global summit could be spun into something like "Old man Biden is not fit for office", anyways I have my popcorn ready, Republicans or Democrats they are all political thugs, just help me tell Biden not to loan Buhari anymore money.....Na God I use beg am cry cry cry
CrimeRe: Married Man Abandons Girlfriend In Lagos Hotel Room, Rapes Receptionist by abbey621(m): 1:59am On Nov 24, 2021
Decryptor:
Oga, a woman has never set you up before. When it finally happens, you will be genuinely amazed at the vile nature of women.
Yes but what's the likelihood that a woman that you have nothing to do with set you up? This is why i said if you play with poo, smell poo, you're likely to eat poo. If even police(uniformed touts) can describe you as a troublesome person in the neighborhood then all hope is lost grin grin grin
BusinessRe: US To Release 50M Barrel Oil Reserves In Attempt To Lower Prices by abbey621(m): 1:58am On Nov 24, 2021
linearity:
There were 112 regulatory roll backs during Trump, 98 were completed, 14 are still pending.....Non of them lead to any oil boom!

The regulations that Trump rolled back weaken Air pollution & emission standards, Drilling & extraction, water pollution, toxic substance & safety, etc....none lead to the boom you spoke off.

Remember that, those EPA regulations were put in place by Obama and yet when Obama hand over to Trump, gas price was about $2.37 per gallon...and stayed on average like that despite the regulatory roll backs you touted as responsible for gas prices during Trump years....

During Bush tenure another GOP that rolled back regulations before Obama came in, gas prices went as high as $4/gallon and only came down shapenly during the market crash under Bush before Obama took office.

Find below a graph of US gas prices from Bush to trump....COVID helped is depressing gas prices...it is call COVID-19, because it started in 2019 and not 2020, there was no much travel then, demand for gas was low world wide, the price to take delivery of Oil then was in the negative, vessels of ships with oil were floating the high sea, no one needed them because prices were in the negative...today a barrel of oil cost about $75 and not in the $30-$40 range as they were then.

From the graph, despite the EPA rollbacks, there was more dip in gas prices during Obama who put in those regulations compare to Trump who removed them, which completely contradicts your arguments that the prices were due to regulatory removal.

Oil & gas price are regulated by world events plus demand/supply. There is a reason FG is planning on removing fuel subsidies, which will increase the price at the pump, gas price has skyrocketed in Europe recently, many under conservative Governments.
Well said.....You analyzed the situation perfectly in a non political way.....kudos!
BusinessRe: US To Release 50M Barrel Oil Reserves In Attempt To Lower Prices by abbey621(m): 1:56am On Nov 24, 2021
Evangelynn:
You would have saved yourself of this embarrassment if you had actually followed the election process and read that the states legislatures controlled by republicans in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania asked for the ballots to be counted after election day.
Mail ballots have been in America since the 20th century you blockhead and 9 states in America exclusively vote by mail,you cannot rig mail votes and fraud is very very minimal most of the fraud caught were done by Trump supporters who attempted to vote twice.Go back and read the news republicans in those states passed laws to have the ballots counted after the election had been concluded it had nothing to do with Biden and the democrats stop embarrassing yourself.It is obvious you don't know anything about American elections because results are announced through the night and extend to days as well the pandemic caused a large use of vote by mail.

The election wasn't rigged it was only rigged in your blocked deluded head, the election was adjudged free and fair by election officials and judges the rigging only took place in your head.
The election was one of the fairest elections in American history.
Elections are rigged all the time in America but the type of rigging is not really what you guys think. From robocalls to bombarding independents with mailers, lies are circulated and people intimidated into voting a certain way. For example, Georgia where I am, Stacey Abrams did a good job motivating the cities and the suburbs I got over 500 texts in the months leading up to the election, my mailbox was full of mailers and persuassions, some even offered small money to vote early for the democratic party, guess what happened? Most people voted early by mail in ballot and voted Democrat, on election date those who wanted to vote for Republicans tried their best to turnup but it was too late.

Another form of rigging is called redistricting, this one is popular among Republicans where they try to shape the electoral map in the state to favor certain voting patterns. America's politics is just as dirty as 9ja o, only difference is they do it in a civilized way, no kidnappings, no wuruwuru to the answer, when they rig you won't even know it is rigging.......BASTAARDS grin grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Lai Mohammed Identifies 7 'Errors/Inconsistencies' In EndSARS Panel Report by abbey621(m): 11:58pm On Nov 23, 2021
plaindealer:
Stop straddling the fence and trying to have it both ways.

[s]The job to investigate and come up with report was one side's job

The job to compile evidence and facts was one side's job

The job to write and submit the report was one side's job.
[/s]
So, if there are inconsistencies in the report, it's solely on the side of the panel.
Panel na law enforcement or field investigators? You wouldn't know the difference because you're a product of your environment. What were the qualifications of the panel? Who set up the panel? Ori e ti gbale, how do you gather evidence when the crime scene was already compromised. Panel rely on forensic reports and testimonies, since the crime scene was compromised(Forensics were handicapped) and bodies disappeared(According to testimonies), which yeye evidence are you looking for again? Like I said only thing that can put the nail on the coffin is the testimony from family members of the victims, absence of this, there's no need to continue arguing so in short, kindly GTFO!
PoliticsRe: Lai Mohammed Identifies 7 'Errors/Inconsistencies' In EndSARS Panel Report by abbey621(m): 11:06pm On Nov 23, 2021
Freedom34:
Nwannem, all ds braggadocio ko nessesstri
Let d panel beaters explain how they came about d fictitious names biko, instead of running helter skelter.

For a whole yr, they neither invited nor visited d 'bereaved families' yet the victims were compensated. Pray, how dem go take collect d money?

How did they identify d 'victims' by their names, seeing that there were no bodies neither did anyone come forward to identify them.

Hello?
cool
This is why I said there were inconsistencies on both sides, who paid the families and how did they get paid? In sane countries the transactions can be easily tracked and the names published, ficticious names are used all the time like John Doe when there's no verifiable identity so let's not use that as basis of doubt or dismissal.

The koko now is for those families to come forward if they ever wanted justice or perhaps their silence were bought by the perps, we might truly never know because in the zoo there is zero accountability.
PoliticsRe: Lai Mohammed Identifies 7 'Errors/Inconsistencies' In EndSARS Panel Report by abbey621(m): 10:40pm On Nov 23, 2021
plaindealer:
I was expecting you to produce where the forensic experts even by the one hired by the panel claimed that the military killed 1 single protester or created a massacre.

Read and show us in the above quote by the forensic expert where they arrived at the conclusion that the military killed people.

Your panel lied that there was a massacre, but how? Massacre without death


Dude, you are obviously not bright and definitely not intelligent, you can not even formulate an intelligent and rational response to defend your own rubbish, insinuations and innuendoes are not substitutes for facts, they are not admissible in courts of law, facts are.
Unfortunately you're very daft, this was never about the court of law because quite frankly in a sane society the crime scene is preserved first before anything else. I already posted the experts saying the crime scene was compromised so I'm wondering what type of silly evidence you need again but again your poo infested brain cannot phantom what I'm saying so you automatically deflect....GTFO!
PoliticsRe: Lai Mohammed Identifies 7 'Errors/Inconsistencies' In EndSARS Panel Report by abbey621(m): 10:17pm On Nov 23, 2021
plaindealer:
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The forensic experts the panel asked to testify said massacre did not happen and the military did not kill protesters so the fact that Mr Mohamed is not a forensic expert is irrelevant, he based his opinion on the same forensic experts you are talking about, the forensic experts that the crooked and corrupt panel shoved aside and rubbish their reports in favour of their own #LEKKILIES and #ENDSARSSCAM.

Pathologist said examined 3 bodies, 2 from other places and 1 from LTG and no sing of bullets in all 3, but the crooked panel shoved aside his report and lied instead.

Dr Lawson gave his report that he recorded zero death from LTG, the crooked panel lied and changed his report.

The forensic expert hired by the panel itself and by the state both agreed that the military did not kill protesters, but the crooked panel shoved aside their report and lied instead.

Even you yourself sound crooked with your thinking..


Before you cry and wail out of control, the fact that the military was there nko? This irrelevant info means they killed people and created a massacre that never happened, that you and the fraudulent panel did not prove?


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Read the post again and then GTFO!

1. BALLISTIC REPORTS

The Minister stated: "The report threw away the testimony of ballistic experts who testified before it. The experts said, inter alia, in their testimony: ''The Team finds that from the medical data examined, including the
timeline of arrival at medical facility and the nature of the injuries sustained by the Victims, who were taken to the 5 medical facilities, that no military grade live ammunition (high-velocity) was fired at the protesters at Lekki Tollgate on 20th October 2020, within the timeframe of reference (18.30- 20.34hrs).
DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NO MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS AND NO WEAPONS?

"That the GSW (Gun Shot Wounds) injuries (4 in number between 19:05 and 19:45 hrs), which were
examined by the Team, can be safely identified as being discharged by either low velocity caliber and/or artisanal/12-gauge firearms (artisanal firearms are locally-fabricated weapons). What is however
certain is that had the military personnel deliberately fired military grade live ammunition directly at the protesters; there would have been significantly more fatalities and catastrophic injuries recorded. This was clearly not the case."

2. FORENSICS

The Minister stated: "The same panel that said it deemed as credible the evidence of the Forensic Pathologist, [b]Prof. John Obafunwa, that only three of the bodies on which post mortem were conducted were from Lekki and only one had gunshot injury [/b]went on to contradict itself by saying nine persons died of gunshot wounds at Lekki!"

These experts who hired them? Who paid their fees? Surely they did not work for free. Was the crime scene preserved?

If you need evidence that the truth was swept away, hear it from the forensic expert's mouth:

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/484362-lagos-endsars-panel-forensic-expert-says-integrity-of-lekki-tollgate-scene-was-compromised.html

I'm baffled here did they drop you on your head as a child or you're just deliberately ignorant. Here is another self incriminating statement:

In its testimony last year, The Nigerian Army, represented by General Ibrahim Taiwo, the Commander of 81 Division, told the panel that soldiers fired only blank bullets in the air at the Tollgate to ward off hoodlums who attacked them with stones on their patrol around the Lekki/Eti-Osa corridor.
So we have established the army was present, we have established they did fire their weapons, so your argument is already looking suspect. Absence of a well preserved crime scene and truly independent forensic experts, what evidence were you hoping to get? Only point to argue now is that we need some of the families to come forth and testify, this will be the only thing that truly puts all doubts away but I suspect people like you would still not be satisfied.
CrimeRe: Married Man Abandons Girlfriend In Lagos Hotel Room, Rapes Receptionist by abbey621(m): 9:50pm On Nov 23, 2021
chymeze:
I don't know why Nigerians can be stupidly sentimental in most issues without trying to be factual or objective! They reason with their emotions. Now inasmuch as rape is a condemnable act, but this story leaves a lot of questions. First, to be objective in your judgment, the man's side of the story must be heard. Second, which right thinking man, a guest at a hotel would throw away reason and rape a receptionist in that same hotel, knowing fully well that he could be caught. Third, at times I wonder how easy it is for a man to rape a woman without utilizing offensive weapons like knife or gun or drugging the lady etc. I mean, before the single man struggles to pull down her trousers alone, the screams of the lady would have given him away in such an open place. Like are there no security or gatemen or other staff that could have noticed? And moreover, a single man without any weapon trying to rape a lady without knocking her off etc is hard to believe, because such a lady could defend herself easily by grabbing his balls etc. Before the man gets to the point of inserting his chairman, he must have knocked her off in one way or the other because he can't do that effectively with a struggling lady. Were there bruises or signs of struggling or battering on the lady?
My point is, this story might just be a case of sex transaction gone wrong. Rape is wrong and condemnable but we need to be very reasonable at judging situations like this and not just throw in our emotions like mumu without even reasoning or asking pertinent questions that could lead us to an objective judgement.

On the aspect of him cheating on his wife, that's a moral issue left for God and his wife to judge and decide, because if we are to judge based on morals, almost everyone on this platform has fallen short of morality in one way or the other, not necessarily in terms of adultery.
If you play with poo, smell it and cover yourself in it then more than likely you must have tasted poo! How does a sexual transaction work here, the man brought a GF to the hotel, the GF no gree do so he left her and convinced the receptionist to have sex with him? You think this is more believable than a man drugged himself, after having sex wasn't satisfied and took it upon himself to ease his urges through rape? You want us to give benefit of doubt to the accused but you failed to take into account his reputation as evidenced by the police, you failed to question his character as evidenced by his adulterous nature.

I'm sorry it seems it is easier to blame the victim than to actually read, do you know anything about the area? Did you read that he had a bottle and threatened her? Someone that is a well known thug in the area and you think a 19 year old female would struggle with him? Abeokuta street na bastaard area, lots of attrocities so I am baffled when people like you go out of your way to doubt stories like this, I'm genuinely amazed!
PoliticsRe: Lai Mohammed Identifies 7 'Errors/Inconsistencies' In EndSARS Panel Report by abbey621(m): 9:32pm On Nov 23, 2021
plaindealer:
...but you and the kabukabu panel just refuse to explain or show us how military actions created massacre or killed 1 single person.

How hard is it to prove? You and the panel can not prove or colour your lies differently until you are able to show us who died, how and where.
Drunkard, you don come again? I'm not here to argue with you, military is not denying its presence there, they did not deny firing weapons so whatever you believe is for your own pocket. You've already proven in previous discussions how ignorant you are so let's save time and simply GTFO!
PoliticsRe: Lai Mohammed Identifies 7 'Errors/Inconsistencies' In EndSARS Panel Report by abbey621(m): 8:23pm On Nov 23, 2021
There are incosistencies on both sides but one thing cannot be denied, excessive force was used. Whether it is military grade weapons or locally made, nobody can deny that military men were called to toll gate and shots were fired. Nobody can deny that people were injured by bullets and that at least two people died as a result of the military's actions.

In a sane country, this would be enough to have heads rolling and some type of reform passed heck the animal that gave the order would be locked up but in a country like 9ja, government does not need to respond, their sympathizers are already blabbering like dung infested rodents. SHAME!
PoliticsRe: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 9:07pm On Nov 22, 2021
plaindealer:
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Same petty, intolerant and hypocritical rubbish.

Now you are sounding boring and redundant.

Next time, don't ask what you are too petty, contradictory and too hypocritical to answer..

Just look at him foaming at the mouth.

Comedian, go and sit down somewhere..

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Are you done or you still want top blabber some more? They are not laughing with you, they are laughing at you....ODE!
PoliticsRe: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 8:55pm On Nov 22, 2021
plaindealer:
Why are you sympathizing with bleeding and arguing with touts? Are you a tout because the only person I'm arguing with here is you?

Why must I be bleeding and seeking attention because I asked you the same question that you asked other people?

How exactly did tout and this vile and reprehensible comment entered the discussion, simply because I asked you the same question you asked other people?

Are you too arrogant, pompous and above other people and the same question you asked other people?

Must me asking the same question that you asked other people translate into bleeding, arguing with a tout and seeking attention?

This silly tantrums just because you are too hypocritical, contradictory and intolerant to answer the same question you asked other people.

See ya life... It's OK if it's your life ambition is to swallow lies, why must you force or question other people to swallow the same rubbish?
Ha.....illiteracy is a disease, I used an example to drive a point and you took it as a personal reference? Pele.....I gave you an example to show why people might sympatize with her and you took it as an attack? Dude...What are you smoking? I'm tired of arguing with a nimwit, like I said earlier...GTFO!
PoliticsRe: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 8:16pm On Nov 22, 2021
plaindealer:
Why are you throwing tantrums with all your crude and crass comment?

Word for word, I asked you the same question you asked other people, so how come all of a sudden your own question turned into local tout?

Since I reversed the same question that you asked, do you not see that you are also a tout and everything you called me? Do you not see how hypocritical and contradictory you sound?

This is the problem with intolerant and crude people like you, you are too arrogant, you think you are above even your own words, you think other people must share your warped views and when they don't, you are allowed to call them names, you think you are allowed to question other people and their motives, but you can not be asked the same thing.

You see how pointless, petty and hypocritical you are?

It didn't even take much to expose you for what you are, a petty and contradictory hypocrite and intolerant goofer.

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Is it that you can't read or your comprehension level is low, where did I call you a tout? I even acknowledged your right to have an opinion, whatever issues you've got is not with me since you're clearly looking for fight and willing to make things up.....GTFO!
PoliticsRe: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 7:30pm On Nov 22, 2021
mapet:
So because to you things don't make sense in 9ja, then you should also try not to make sense of things posed to you...and believe nonsense ?
In advanced countries benefit of doubt is always given to the victim especially in cases of assault, this benefit stays until proven wrong. Statistically victims of physical assault are more likely to be saying the truth than fabrication but I understand this is 9ja, we value and respect our oppressors whether it is rape, child molestation, assault or kidnap, blame almost always goes towards the victim. It's not your fault really, you're just a product of the environment and generational conditioning......It is well!
PoliticsRe: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 7:25pm On Nov 22, 2021
plaindealer:
That question cuts both ways, why are others quick to believe her, and why are you questioning others for not believing her?

You don't think they are entitled to their opinion and beliefs just like others with opposing opinion and beliefs?

Is it easier to believe she did not set it up herself? I'm just trying to understand your point of view and why you are questioning other people for not believing her while ignoring her supporters.
Okay I don't know you from anywhere, don't know your character or anything but I see you bleeding days after arguing with a local tout would I be more likely to sympatize with you or discard your injuries and call you attention seeker? I know in this country, y'all are used to shaming/blaming victims but surely there's still an ounce of humanity left. You're entitled to your opinion, I just wanted to know where you're coming from so that I can see the reasoning behind your opinion but don't get it twisted nobody's taking away your right to an opinion so chill!
PoliticsRe: #Endsars Protester Kamsi Ibeh Stabbed Like A Thief ‘for Appearing Before Panel’ by abbey621(m): 5:48pm On Nov 22, 2021
mapet:
Guy,

1. It seems you don't even know how this works
2. As far as the issue is at this stage, she belongs to the past. She has given her testimony it has been captured in the report. No one needs her to make another testimony.
3. The white paper that will be released is going to be the valid document that will guide further action on this.

So I wonder what we make of her noise and what is supposed to achieve? Does it make sense to you that someone will try to shut her down when she's said all she has to say? If she recants her position, then she must be a bigger fool. How can you go under oath, and then come to public to recant? Even that script is stale...

The big point is to what value is the threat on her life to the current state of things? The train has long pass where she's scripting. If this happened while the panel was sitting, then it makes sense. If you cannot see beyond this simple logic, then.....
Since when did things started making sense in 9ja? You're operating on the believe that there's some logical pattern or rationale behind all this which to me sounds silly. From government to uniformed men angered by the report to government sympathizers, anyone could have carried out the attack since security is an afterthought in this country. The real question here is why are you so quick to dismiss her? Is it easier to believe she set it up herself? I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
CrimeRe: Policemen Beat Emmanuel Oshiyoye For Challenging Them, Break His Jaw In Osun by abbey621(m): 5:46am On Nov 22, 2021
Rule number 1: Don't argue with cops, especially uneducated touts known as NPF!
Rule number 2: Have the number of a competent lawyer on speed dial in case of issues like this
Rule number 3: If God blessed you with money, use it wisely, have at least 2 or 3 of either army, police or politicial bosses at your disposal. One thing police fears more than armed robber is knowing you know people in the right places.

All in all, you're lucky to still be alive, many have perished becuase of 20 Naira not to talk of arguing with an officer.....9ja na jungle, one must be mad to survive am!
PoliticsRe: Seyi Tinubu Governorship Campaign Poster Surfaces - Nigerians React by abbey621(m): 11:42pm On Nov 21, 2021
Campaign poster with no party? Come on now, at least if una wan cause wahala, try to make it realistic......CLOWNS grin grin grin grin
FamilyRe: Sex Starved Husband by abbey621(m): 7:12am On Nov 21, 2021
bepositive11:
You must've been married for a long time. Please tell me about your experience

I think people need to balance and make time. But I understand that not everyone has that luxury
Just 6 years but I can tell you the time for smashing every 2 to 3 days was over after the first two years, you're right balance is the key but even with all the balancing, it ain't the same with these kids and hustling 14 hours a day, it just ain't the same......If I told my wife to sit down and not work, she'll laugh because who no like dollars? grin grin grin grin May God help us all.....

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