₦airaland Forum

It's back up.

kmariko:
Come on now afam, thats not the issue. Toyota is in Nagoya not even in Tokyo or Osaka,VW is not even in Berlin or Frankfurt. So the point is that the reasons you advanced for not planting these companies in the East is not a very cogent one in my opinion. We all agree that structurally Nigeria is a non starter, but within that structure companies can and do somewhat thrive beyond the imperfections and tribal induced promotion of some parts of the country.

Microsoft headquareters is in Seattle, Washington while Cocacola is in Atalnta Georgia. If these companies were in Nigeria, they would be in Lagos and Lagos only. They could only venture into ogun state owing to it's closeness to lagos. We operate like the united Kingdom where almost everything is centered in London. This means that other states have to carve a niche for themselves to be taken seriously by organizations. Calabar has done that with tourism. For some reason, Calabar is the most popular city after Lagos, Abuja and Porthacourt despite the fact that interms of development, Enugu beats it imo.

kmariko:
People like me wonders why one of the biggest companies in world Walmart has their HQ in Arkansas instead of NYC,Chicago or Houston if we take yor line of thought

Thanks for bringing this up. Nigeria was not built like America. Unlike America, Nigeria is a one city state where the federal government decides where develops and where doesn't.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
what's the difference between this post and the other one you made?
That a software company can't be sited in Enugu ? What truth is there? It is this mentality that will rather keep us in square one and not setting up an ICT company in Enugu

Who says that a software compare cannot be cited in Enugu. My point is, if it's already cited in Lagos or Abuja, of what benefit will it be to move it to Enugu. be sincere with yourself. Is Enugu a Nigerian version of Sillicon valley?

InyinyaAgbaOku:
I hope you know you have not said anything ?

Enugu and Owerri don't have anything UNIQUE to offer Leo Stan Eke of Zinox apart from the fact that they are cities in Igboland where he comes from. We must desist from this emotional request for investment. people should be made to invest because they have something to benefit and not because they owe it to Igboland. Do you think if Enugu was on the same level with lagos, Igbos would rather invest in Lagos? I don't think so. They're in Lagos for a reason. We can keep lying to ourselves as much as we want. Until we start telling ourselves the truth, we will remain in square one.

Like someone said and like we've been saying for years, we can only compete favourably if we start informing public and the best and only way to do that is through media. Ezeagu captured it when he said that Igboland is the least known among the big ethnic groups in Africa. We need to project ourselves to the world stage and the time is now.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
We are talking of manufacturing not sales , that's why I mentioned spare parts makers n kotec group that makes tummy tummy.
Every sales person can stay anywhere but as much as possible our industries should be in igboland .
So, can you tell me why zinox company headquarters can't stay in Enugu or oeerri?

Maybe if you can tell me what better he stands to gain in Enugu or Owerri compared to Lagos or Abuja then we can find a closure. However you look at it, ZINOX stands less to gain moving to Enugu compared to where they are currently. Until, Enugu, owerri and other Igbo states creates a unique identifier, the issue will remain the same. There's a reason why Nnewi and Onitsha are representing.

MabraO:
I had to go through this thread form page 188 to page 200
I must say u guys a lagging behind
Majorly all movies mentioned I ve watched nd I ve been searching for new ones and continuation of the ones I ve watched

I could only pick limitless, ray dounavanand narcos. I hope wen I get it I won't regret watching it

And secondly I ve noticed some cd stores don't sell some series either they say don't ve it or dey haven't heard of it
This pisses me off

Those cd stores and the manufacturers usually go for popular movies. I'm sure if you ask for LOST or Desperate housewives season 1, they'll still have it. That's why i've not been able to get my hands on "Better Call Saul."

InyinyaAgbaOku:
O do egwu.
That's not enough reason for zinox to settle in Lagos. Who told you Enugu city for eg or owerri cannot host zinox company?
Are more spareparts and tummy tummy not sold in Lagos than nnewi, yet the industries are in nnewi? What of the various Chinese companies that make goods specifically for the Nigerian market ,yet the industries are situated in China?
I don't think there is a justifiable reason for that type of excuse.
If your products are good, people will come from far and near to access it irrespective of your location.
When unth Enugu was doing open heart surgeries, people from Cameroon were even coming to Enugu, same with calabar where the whites do free cataract surgery.

Nnewi has been an automobile center before before the civil war, so you can't compare it with Enugu and Owerri that are not really known for any kind of craft. Even at that, why can't you convince all the Igbo spare parts dealers all over the country to move their business to Nnewi. Does it make sense? Why can't Coscharis move their business to Nnewi as well?

BuddahMonk:
Yes I know they are not easy but this is the only way we can reduce hatred and jealousy of our covetous neighbours who wish nothing on us but disasters and calamities.


The reason why it seems difficult is that we have put ourselves in a very tight corner, if NECO could maintain its headquarters in Minna and still be a national player, why didn't Igbos learn to keep their investments at home no matter the odds against them.

Igbos think that without you being in HD in Lagos you can't make it. Look at UnityBank with their funny office in Lagos but gigantic edifice in Kano telling you they know what they are doing. Atiku opened his Univ and company in Adamawa State

For you to say Igboland is developed with money realized by outsider is very mischievous and insulting to the hardworking Igbos in igboland.

I think the civil war put us in a tight corner. if there was no civil war and we were still at the same level nationally as we were pre 1967 then we will not be having this conversation. It's not fair to compare us to any other group in Nigeria. Our history was tainted by the civil war and so our story is different. We have to come to the realization that Igbos did not just decide that living outside Igboland is better off than in Igboland. That's why i fault the argument of some people that Igbos are born migrants or travellers. No, we are not. Na condition na him make crayfish bend. We have to now look at have we can rescue the situation by being factual and realistic. Where can we go from here. What do we need to do to make people like Leo Stan Eke to look eastwards. How can we make Ifeanyi Uba to move the headquateters of Capital oil to somewhere in the east. Can a Tony Elumelu or a Fidelity Bank think of citing their skyscraper headquarters in Enugu? Let's cut these people some slack by understanding that they are business men first and formost. A lot of us that are even having this discussion are based in the east. So, where do we go from here.

bily:
Blindspot season premier looks good.

The film with the lady with tattoes right?

Baba awon criminals rocked it better.

BuddahMonk:
Ezeagu said igbos can't invest in igboland because of lack of seaport then I ask him if there is one in kano or Kaduna but he didn't answer me.

Is there any seaport in Johannesburg SA the richest city in South Africa and her economic capital ?

Afam why do Igbos request for haven and earth before they want to invest in igboland. they will tell you there is no airport in Anambra and Abia, when you ask them to invest in Enugu or owerri that there is one there they will tell you there is no seaport in those places.

Seaport or not, with effective transportation arrangement and perfect marketing strategy you can dominate any part of the country with your products.

Nnewi people will import motorcycle from abroad, move it from Lagos down to Nnewi, people from Lagos will go to Nnewi and buy motorcycle parts and return back to Lagos.

Oga na brain nobi muscle, its not about the size of ones skull.

You have a point but these things are easier said than done. Have you asked yourself why the Yorubas and Hausas don't have the same problems Igbos have as far as investing at home is concerned? Why do we have that problem? It's simple. Our development was altered as a result of the civil war. Yes, our people have recovered in terms of pursuing their dreams but the problem is that most of these people did not do it in Igboland. They did it in Lagos, Abuja, Port-hacourt, Kano, US, UK and other parts of the world and some of them came back to Igboland to build houses and that is what has even made Igboland to develop to the level that it is now. There's still a problem though. We have to convince the Igbo intelligentsia who live in these places to return home but we have to be practical in our approach. How will you tell a Zinox who manufactures computers to leave Lagos(the commercial capital of Nigeria and the place where most of his computers will be sold) or Abuja to move to Enugu or Owerri. The question he will ask you is, what can Enugu and Owerri offer. Let's not forget that he is a business man and not necessarily a philantropist and as such the thinks about the business implication of his company before anything else. The best he can do is to setup Afrihub in Universities in Igboland which he has done. Now, to be practical, the onus rests on the shoulders of the Governors of the 5 eastern states to make their states business friendly by providing constant electricity, access roads, seaports and airports to make it attractive to Igbos first and foremost before anyone else. If Igboland was that attractive, we would have seen non Igbos investing there.

Bishop42:
When people say igbos don't speak with one voice people like the dudes above me are the reason why. They are always in the minority but very strangely vocal. No normal person who calls himself a patriot would go against popular opinion

This may just be the dumbest post that I have ever come across on this thread (no offence). It's because of statements like you that Igbos may never be united. Unity does not mean that everyone must agree to the same thing. And who are you to determine what is agreed by the majority. Who took a poll? We must learn to entertain different ideas and suggestions and the lack of that has always been the bane of the Igbo nation. Some of you are just stubborn and are not ready to hear others out. You just want to force everyone to agree with you.

I agree with the realists in Abagworo and Eze ago. Our greatest problem as Igbo is the lie we tell ourselves to make us feel better.

Is this not the height of it really. People allow you into their country as the next thing you do is to cause havoc and denigrate their religion.

Odkboy23:
yeah you're kinda right because both of them are fixers.

Ray Donovan is more than just a fixer. He's a heartless killer.

HappyJoe:
I disagree. At the rate Ebonyi people are going out to fend for themselves, they might erase the education deficit within a generation. That is not to say investment in education is not needed.

Also people forget that Abakaliki is about 3 hours from Calabar (if you have a functioning port in Calabar), the business opportunities are immense.

Ebonyi has Ibeto's plant (the former NigerCem) and massive food processing industries like Engineer Charlie Ugwu's EbonyAgro (I visited there). I visited Osun also, and I did not see similar industrial potential - also consider that Osun & Ekiti people are not as enterprising as Igbos.

Abakaliki has all it takes to be the next Enugu - it's like an hour away from Enugu. A lot of business opportunity with a smart, forward looking governor.

We need to do away with the emboldened mentality. The fact that we Igbos have done everything ourselves does not mean that the government, especially the SE governors should not make concerted efforts at solving some pertinent issues. The only thing holding Ebonyi imo is education and all hands must be on deck to solve the problem.

There's no gain saying that Enugu is now a hub for residential estates. It's no surprising as a lot Igbos who live all over Nigeria and the world have found Enugu as their home due to it's status as the defacto capital of Eastern Nigeria and Igboland. I think we need to start looking at creating world class business and industrial districts that will put Enugu in a competitive level with cities all over Africa and the world. That's the only area that i think Enugu is lacking.

Is it not on this thread that people have been suggesting "Under the Dome". The film looks cheesy to me. They're trying too hard.

BuddahMonk:
I normally see anybody that claims Ikwerre as Igbos as stuupid person, what has Ikwerre got to offer to the Igbo nation.
I have only met one in my life and I detest having anything to do with them.

Ths is one of the bane of the Igbo nation. I have nothing against Ikwerre peeps. It' just the denial is overwhelming and as such we should let them be. Let's develop the area known as the South-East and also keep an open arm to anyone who wants to join. But we shouldn't go out of our way to try to force an identity on other people. It hampers our progress. I feel the same way about Anioma. Not just because of Ika and Ukwuani areas who mostly disclaim their Igboness but due to the fact that even the Aniocha/Oshimili people are in a state where there are non Igbos, so it will be difficult to embark on a regional integration that involves Delta state.

Ajibel:
Hey bro, hope you are Okay?

Behind who?

Enugu Rangers? or Rangers (in Scottish League)

Now that's not funny to me

Rangers is the Real Madrid of Nigeria.. Okay

But Enyimba is the Elephant (Enyimba) of Nigeria. We are Unique and incomparable

The only thing Enyimba has above Rangers is the CAF champions league. It is debatable no doubt but I'm sticking my neck out for Rangers due the history of the could and because I'm a fan.

asha80:
anambra governor is a year older on seat than ugwuanyi

Yeah. We're still hoping Ugwuanyi does not disappoint.

Krasid:
How The only thing Rangers have over Enyimba is history.

History is what Real Madrid has over other clubs. Plus the fact that Rangers and Enyimba are at par in terms of how many times that they have won the league.

macof:
Excuse me! By language Kwara is roughly 95% yoruba... because the Bariba and Nupe speak yoruba alongside their native languages

By ethnicity 80%


Fulani descendants are the ones divided(due to mixed ancestry) and they are only in Ilorin - one town out of many

I was referring to those who now speak Yoruba as a native language but not necessarily Yoruba.

The Anambra thread is now busier than this thread. You just know when a governor is working. I guess it's turn by turn. All the same, its good for Igboland.

Ajibel:
Well, if it is both, it'll be quite tough to decide on the top ten, but what won't be undisputed is the fact that Enyimba comes top ALWAYS No matter the rank or criteria for ranking

If it's overall, then Enyimba may just be behind Rangers. Rangers is the Real Madrid of club football in Nigeria.

Igbonazy:
Nothing you say will change the fact that ikwerres are igbo even if they deny being igbo, takeover other igboland and slaughter fellow igbos. Afterall we have morons in igboland who still vote northerners despite the slaughtering of thousands of igbos in the North. If they can forgive easily why not your fellow igbos.

Nothing can stop Chickens from being called chicken,the name chicken isnt a privilage. They are called chicken because they look like Chicken. Ikwerre are Igbos because share alot in common with other igbo group. Nsukka,Onitsha,Abatete etc share alot in common with other igbo group aswell. So quit being used by our enemy to divide and conquer. We need the numbers and land

Very silly mentality (no offence)

taiocol:
been over 3 decade since Rangers last won a trophy.
what's insurance doing here. It's like calling N. forest ahead of Man City cause N. forest has more trophies than City

We're talking of history here. Rangers may not have any trophy in 3 decades but they've been consistent in the top flight and are the only team never to have been relegated.

Krasid:
1st position is not debatable.Enyimba is the best Nigerian club ever.

It is debatable because Rangers and Enyimba are at par in terms of winnings in the league. Enyimba has an edge in continental championship while Rangers holds the ace in history.

By language, Kwara is about 80% Yoruba. But by ethnicity is difficult to call. While those in the Offa axis are proud Yorubas, those in Ilorin are kind of divided. They are to Yorubas what Ika is to Igbos.

Funny thread.