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chaircover: many of the people here talking dont know the reality what it is like to be owed money that they themselves need.

Using myself as an example, I had a shop girl who I was paying a very good wage to & she benefited from so many perks and people that know me personaly know that I am not the average madam employer. Did that stop her from stealing? NO! She stole my items worth 50K. . . . that’s even the one that I knew about. She was caught, she confessed and I asked her to pay it back. That’s when the cat and mouse started between her, her guarantor and us.

I eventually took her to the police station they even wanted to arrest her but I was the one who paid her bail from my own pocket because I didn't want her put in a cell. She confessed to stealing so that alone was enough for her to be arrested.

We all agreed dates that she will pay the money back and how and she signed an undertaking in the police station to that effect but until this day not a penny, this was 15 months ago. I know where to find her but I just can’t be bothered, to her she got away with it, but she will do it again to someone else and next time she may not have it so easy. I could absorb the 50K but not everyone can.

The main reason why I opened my own shop is because I was fed up of supplying goods to people but they would not pay on the date agreed and you keep on chasing them around. Having debt doesn’t seen to be a big deal to some people. This has nothing to do with being rich or poor and there are a number of big names on the Allen Avenue/Toyin Street axis that still owe me money until today. Some will even open their big gob and tell you that Nigeria is in debt so what is the big deal in the thousands that they owe you?

When I used to sell lace nko?? that is another story for another day

We hear emotional headline stories and we all feel sorry for the “victims” but the reality can be very different. The man/woman who was owed the money probably needed the money desperately too.

The police overdid it no doubt and I dont see the benefit/reasoning of sending 20 armed police to arrest a whole family including an innocent baby when it is only one person that they need and they need to be disciplined for that, however my blaming the father was because people dont just go to the police as the first point of call and there would have been many missed deadlines etc before the person owed money went to the police.

Mad Cow: Twenty Policemen to arrest a person over a debt = EXAGGERATION..

7-Month old Baby in a Nigerian Cell = Police Brutality

Arresting a person over a civil issue such as a bad debt = Over-stepping of boundaries

THE NIGERIAN POLICE HAS NO BUSINESS ACTING AS A LOAN RETRIVING AGENCY..



This again brings me back to education 101..

ALWAYS GET YOURSELF A LAWYER: When once you are arrested by the Police wherever you are (home & abroad), as soon as you make that phone call, make sure the next words out of your mouth after the location Police Station is 'COME WITH A LAWYER'..

Know your rights. 7 Days in Police custody can only happen because you did not get yourself a lawyer. The Police cannothold a suspect for more than 24hours without charging him/her to court. Except its a case for murder.

- Putting a nursing mother and her baby behind bars is a big crime. The woman should get herself a great lawyer and file criminal charges against the police and also bring a civil suit against them where she can claim damages..


THE NIGERIAN POLICE FEAR LAWYERS... #Fact

Nashville: Businesses in Nigeria fail for the following reasons

1. High Cost of Operations - This is one of the biggest killers of Nigerian Businesses. It just makes our products uncompetitive when it comes to pricing. It is always cheaper to import and resell. Cost of labour is not very expensive but infrastructure like Nepa, providing Security and even bribes makes it difficult.

2. Policy Changes - Our government has not been consistent with Policy formulation. Regime after regime, policies just change overnight and put businesses in danger. Sanusi alone in 3 years has implemented 25 far reaching policy changes, so businesses cannot operate effectively in such climates

3. Corruption - Businesses die to the fact that they have to bribe. Unfortunately some people with integrity cannot do such things so their businesses may die and sometimes the cost of bribery reduces potential profits to nothing.

4. Security - Lack of adequate security to protect infrastructure and equipments.

5. Management - We have very few great managers in Nigeria. We all plan for the short term, try to make quick and easy money today while disregarding the long term. So lack of skilled management is a problem. So several businesses start well but end badly due to mismanagement

6. Succession Planning - One the owner retires, no one is able to take over from him and run the company with the same vigour and vision. The person that takes over may just wanna get rich quick.

7. Values System - We generally have poor maintenance systems. We lack foresight and cant plan for the future. Greed is also a major problem with our society!

pro01: It is indeed true that many, if not most, young people these days are lazy and materialistic. However, the materialism didn't start with the present generation of youngsters; it's a deep-rooted social problem, not a generational one. In Nigeria, everyone - old and young - judges you based on your material possessions and/or accomplishments; nothing else really matters. OK

In terms of laziness, however, the current generation of young people in Nigeria are hopelessly beyond redemption. You see them shamelessly using text-speak even in formal writing (some use it in examinations and job applications!). You see them complaining that certain posts on Nairaland are "too long", thus exposing their mental laziness and aversion to reading. You see them seeking shortcuts and the easy way out in almost every situation.

In a sense, it is also true that things are easier for the present generation (at least in terms of knowledge acquisition and task completion) how? In their days, admission letters were sent by post to successful university entrants. For instance, it is now possible to access all the textbooks and materials one needs for their research, assignment, etc. entirely on the internet. Yes, but they also borrowed books from people who already graduated or have passed a level, but now you must purchase whatever trash the lecturer publishes, otherwise your failure has already started. So why read when i can pay and pass instead of reading and failing? In times past, final year students used to travel great lengths across Nigeria (e.g. From Uniport to UI) just to look for materials for their research projects. In spite of the advantages associated with the Internet and modern technologies, the quality of education seems to be getting worse - simply because people are too lazy (and too distracted) to commit any effort.

If you look at our uncles and aunties that had the privilege of tertiary education in the 60's, 70's, and to some extent 80's, you would notice that they generally seem more sophisticated and speak better English than many of our contemporaries in the present generation. This is quite ironic, considering that the older generation had to go through the ordeals of using hardcover dictionaries, learning from 'slates', etc., whereas we have the luxury of smartphones and the Internet to make learning relatively easier for us.

obadiah777: LAGOS AND ABUJA WILL NOT BE SAFE. WW3 ALSO CALLED THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON IS AN ACT OF GOD IN WHICH THE EARTH WILL BE CLEANSED WITH FIRE. ALL THE UNDESIRABLES OF THE EARTH WILL BE CLEANSED IN THERMONUCLEAR FIRE. ABUJA AND LAGOS HAS INDIGENES THAT HAVE BEEN SEDUCED BY THE WAY OF THE WICKED. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE LORD WILL WIPE THOSE TWO CITIES OUT WITH NUKES.

REVELATION 16 VS 19 and the cities of the nations fell <<< EVERY MAJOR CITY WILL BE NUKED OUT OF EXISTENCE BECAUSE THEY ARE FULL OF WICKEDNESS. AND THIS WILL HAPPEN REAL SOON. IN OBAMAS 2ND TERM IN OFFICE

seadoftj: the guy is right for d correction. To buttress his point, a good example is : 'If i were you'

ashmanpolo: U think so? How about this: 'We were on our way when Pecca posted this comment' is this an imaginary statement?

Please next time don't invoke the redherring by wrongnesslessly, sheepishnesslessly and ignorantnesslessly trans-migrating our people's minds

ehie: while nigerians are still trying to understand why it cannot produce petrol with the crude oil it has,and are still trying to generate electricity..we have been left behind in the race of time

olenyi: Don't quite understand ur question. Which satellite in particular.

Graham4luv: @all pls i wnt 2 no if i can track [size=16pt] ab3 at 5west[/size] wit 90cm dish in south south 9ja (bayelsa). Its urgent pls

figment232: @agitator is a BIG FOOL

1supremo: We have been cheated again. I see nepotism at work here(Obama must have seen to it that Kenya gets ahead of us). We are no second fiddler in this area. First! First!! and First!!! This is so unfair.

lagcity: Your Father!! kwashiorkor baby.

figment232: hello peeps i just wanted to know if we can now use strong decoder to get DSTV.any latest patch?

timbros: Are those men (policemen abi na security men) dead or just lying on train track in protest? Nawao...

God2man: Unfulfilled prophecies abound in the Bible, God told hezekiah that he will die, but hezekiah prayed and wept before the Lord for a reversal and the same God gave him 15 more years. The truth is the manifestation of divine prophecies are not automatic, atimes, it takes time, at other time, the reverse may be the case. They are all subject to the various factors. In my own opinion, i mean the US election, there was a possibilty for Romney to emerge as the winner of the election. Unfortunately, something mysterious happened along the line that changed the movement, probably due to his own fault or due to the disruption caused by the hurricane sandy that created an obstacle for his last campaign to hold. Only God can unravel the mysteries.

Those men of God could be right, let's be objective in whatever we are saying. Let's take it easy.

Calling them a false prophet is too degrading. What do we gain? Nothing. Does it edify anybody? No. Then whyy are we criticizing them. I read two different books by two different men of God, one gave a not too good historical background of a man of God, the other one countered the statement. Now, is it good for me to come to the internet and start calling them liars? No! If i do that, it shows that i am not mature, i consider their imperfection as normal thing to be expected from a man made with clay.

Whenever we are criticizing men of God on this forum, let's try to examine ourselves first before criticizing them. As i always say on this forum, what goes round comes around.

God bless you all.
God2man.

thelastPope: What is wrong with you my friend? Did you go to school? What is an invention? I have read the link and there is nothing like that there!

" generator that runs on urine,designed
by three 14-year-old school girls, was on
show"

That's what you have there. Nothing more. What's this one you trying to stand on a lie. What exactly did they invent in that picture? Didn't you see the red gen they bought and where trying to use? Didn't you see it was a normal PMS powered gen? Didn't you see the links I posted before of how to use hydrogen to power PMS gens? What is the new thing they did? What are you trying to achieve by spreading falsehood? You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to scam people.

Ada Nri1: A man that doesn't want to get married to avoid being responsible for feeding his wife is not a real man. I don't even want to come accross such men because no matter the size of their di..k They are not men. To me they are like studs with dead spe.rm cells

naptu2: Serious oil exploration began in the 1970s (the Gowon era), around the time when the arab-israeli crisis was at its height. This meant that we had record high oil prices. Nigeria made a lot of money. Unfortunately, we also spent a lot of money.

People were being employed into the civil service to do jobs that did not add any value to the economy. As soon as you graduated you could easily get a job in the civil service, with a car and official house in Ikoyi (and later Festac and Satellite towns). The government took over lots of private companies (Daily Times, etc) and sunk money into them. We did not save for the rainy day. Instead of diversifying, the government was taking over profitable private companies and running them down such that, by the end of the 1970s, we were running a mono-economy (oil accounted for almost 90% of revenue).

In the early '80s the US ensured that the price of oil fell. The encouraged Saudi Arabia to flood the market with oil. They also encouraged peace treaties between Israel and Egypt, Israel and Jordan, etc.

The economy first showed signs of trouble around 1982. The price of oil (which provided about 90% of revenue) collapsed. The government introduced austerity measures. Some food items disappeared from breakfast and dinner tables. People started complaining (thinking about it now, we never knew how bad things would be later on). The 1983 elections+the economic problems led to the fall of Shagari's government (it didn't help that politicians were throwing lavish parties at 1004, importing prostitutes and buying long wheel base limousines).

Buhari came in and tried to stabilise the economy by force. Companies were made to advertise retail prices of their products. Soldiers went into the markets to enforce such prices (for example, if lever brothers advertises a retail price of 30k for lux soap and a trader is seen selling it above 30k, the soldiers would seize his goods and distribute them to the public for free). They changed the currency overnight, so that politicians couldn't take stolen money abroad. They also placed limits on overseas trips and the amount of money you could take out of the country. Buhari refused to take the IMF loan and accept their conditions because the government felt that it would impinge on our sovereignty. Some of these measures worked, while some failed.

Babangida came in and implemented SAP (probably the most hated government policy ever). People might want to kill me when I say that the SAP idea was not a bad idea theoretically. The fact is, it's not, but it was definitely not suitable for Nigeria of 1986. The idea was that the government should ban imports, encourage local industries and devalue the currency so that our exports would be cheaper.

The reality was that the government had taken over most of the major private firms, such that we didn't have indigenous private companies to take advantage of this policy. We had government companies and foreign companies.

Nigerians depended on imports. We went to the big department stores to buy cheap easily affordable/available imported goods. Even the poorest civil servant could afford these luxuries. SAP put these goods beyond the reach of most Nigerians.

The naira was suddenly and radically devalued (I remember Punch Newspaper's cartoon of the naira in a boxing ring, being knocked out by the dollar). The kobo became absolutely useless. People learnt a new form of arithmetic, I.e the 1-0-1, 0-1-0, 0-0-1, etc (breakfast, no lunch, dinner; no breakfast, lunch, no dinner). I think one of the biggest and most wide spread riots in Nigeria must have been the SAP riots of 1988. People were fed up! They almost got to Dodan Barracks!

Manufacturing companies closed down because they couldn't get cheap imported raw materials. The big department stores closed down because they couldn't afford to stock imported goods (the fall in the value of the naira meant that the masses couldn't afford the goods). Nigeria experienced de-industrialisation (Berec Batteries, Volkswagen of Nigeria and many other factories closed down).

Our value system also collapsed. Corruption became the rule, rather than the exception. There was no shame in it anymore. Honesty was seen as a sign of stupidity.

Things have improved since the return to civilian rule, but they have not improved fast enough and sometimes it seems we lack direction. We now have Nigerian brands that can take advantage of a SAP (Glo, Silverbird, Oando, AIT, etc), but the corruption, abuse of office and violence of the second republic has returned. Nigerians are disillusioned. People we're once very proud to be Nigerians. That pride is absent now.

Joagbaje: Samuel was very sure he was hearing from God , and was about to anoint a wrong man as king. But God had to stop him.

1 Samuel 16:7
When they had come, he looked on Eliab [the eldest son] and said, Surely the Lord’s anointed is before Him.
7 But the Lord said to Samuel, Look not on his appearance or at the height of his stature, for I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees; for man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.

If samuel had gone ahead to anoint elihab in error. Would that make samuel a false prophet ? No.

slap1: What is Fashola doing about this? He should also prioritize the lives of Lagosians, and not just raise hell about traffic rules and taxes.

ddim22: [b]Nobody should compare this to what happened it ALUU.[/b]Those students were innocent men that were lynched for a crime they did not commit.But armed robbers are demonic being,they should not be spared at all.Anybody caught redhanded in armed robbery should be killed immediately to deter others.Mind you,there is a difference between armed robbery and ordinary stealing.Though both of them are thieves but the former is dangerous and a threat to peoples life.So if you catch a thief and he or they are not armed with gun or knife or machete,you can beat him a little then take him to the police.But when a thief is caught with gun or knife or machete or any other dangerous weapon,that thief must be killed immediately before the police comes.