₦airaland Forum

emmasege:
It's this kind of talk the proponent of the idea wants to hear. Nobody cared about where CAN president comes from until now that APC wants to use divide and rule. Have you forgotten that Onaiyekan was once the CAN President and he comes from the north? I'd prefer a candidate from any region, provided its devoid of political interference. Everyone knows that the south is the stronghold of Christianity in Nigeria and the anti-christs will do everything possible to create a distrust between the northern and southern Christians.

So who is the Anti-Christ, the one that doesn't want Christians from a certain region or the one that says ALL Christians are eligible?

loadeddice:
i agree with you 100%. i was wondering N6300 for 1 month !!!!!!!!

with the old tariff i was using about N25k per month with 12hrs supply daily o! then now with new tariff, im almost using N40k per month with 9hrs supply daily.

abeg all those bio-diesel, garbage-to-light and its likes, i need una contact. im ready to try any other source of power.

You guys are confusing ESTIMATED BILLING with Actual cost of Electricity! If the 9hrs of electricity you used in the month is computed at the 16.5/KwH, even if you were to put on 30 ACs and use 20KW each hour, you be paying 20 x 16.5 x 9, which is N2,970.00

But as normal, your Disco will charge you an ESTIMATE OF PROJECTED USAGE, which could, and usually is, crazier than your actual cost. To help yourself, get a Pre-Paid Meter to ensure you ONLY pay for the hours of electricity that you enjoy.

I thought CAN is made up of Christians from ALL OVER NIGERIA!!!

Or is CAN saying the Northern Christians are less of a Christian than their Southern counterparts? Or is CAN saying the leadership of a Christian body has been previously influenced by the President (is this why Oritsejafor was elected?) and the reason for the CAN President's jet being used to buy arms?

There are some things that should not be said by religious organisations, this is one of them.

josite:
now i know my comments are being read and studied and acted upon.

you are very wrong ,profoundly wrong.mtn will not divulge your calls and info except by a court order in lawful pursuit of investigations into a crime.quote me anywhere.

Hmmm, that had never been in doubt, and no one alluded to it being released without a court order.
The court order is TO MTN, because they are the owner of the rights to the call records and NOT THE PERSON BEING INVESTIGATED!!!

The initial post you have been trying to say I am wrong about is reproduced below AGAIN, please read it and tell me which portion you actually have an issue with or which portion is wrong. Please read it slowly.

Akainzo:
EFCC doesn't require your consent to get details of your bank transactions from a bank, or your phone transactions from a Telecom operator. Both of these items are actually not your properties but that of the bank or telecom operator.

So once they obtain the requisite orders against the actual owners of the data, you the account holder or phone subscriber are inconsequential.

lagosrd:
I don't know why am even replying you cause your post is getting insultive. Since you know all then proceed to the supreme court and do the needful.my advise is that you would have been a better human being if only you respect other people's opinion

Thanks for the advice, though I'm not sure I insulted you. I all the same do apologise for making you feel insulted

I sincerely hope we both learned something from the discourse. Have a lovely day.

lagosrd:
Still don't get your argument. Does ownership to you involves betrayal of trust. Kindly get the latest on why and how iPhone manufacturers apple have refused to unlock one of the shooters phone. Pls research well and listen to int'l and local news and not dwell on whatever illegalities happening now in nigeria. God bless you brov

Seems you are suffering from the effects of not being able to connect dots but looking at stuff in isolation. Like I have said, "Privacy" is not to be confused with "Ownership".

Let me now help you on the Apple case as regards the Bernardino shooter. The FBI is not asking to have access to data already with the phone companies, they are trying to have access to PERSONAL DATA of the shooter which is stored locally on the phone. Local data is not to be confused with Call Record, Text Messages and Cloud data.
Apple is rightly refusing to unlock the phone because the PHYSICAL PHONE is the property of the shooter and not Apple or the Telecoms company.


So once again, I state to you: Do not confuse "Privacy" with "Ownership".

lagosrd:
Friend there are terms and conditions attached to that can you answer this question. Can the bank publish my statement of account into public domain without my consent cos its their property?

So the telecom pole can send my chats to public domain without my consent. Pls use ur someth oh ng now

You confuse "Privacy" with "ownership", they are not the same.

Your body is yours but if you walk out in public naked, you'd be guilty of indecent exposure. Does this analogy help to clarify things for you?

josite:
(Akainzo:Sorry to bust your bubble, the phone in your hand is your own, the money in your account is your own.
However all over the world, the transacional details in your account are the property of the bank, which is why you'd have to ask the bank for your statement and they even charge you for it.
The phone in your hand and whatever is on it is your own, however all communications with it through the Telecoms operator is the property of the operator not you. They can cut you off, stop data to you or even deny your access to use their property. You'd be free to use your phone as a camera or radio if you so wish.)

again let me with profound respect to you ,correct a misleading information you put out to the public in your quoted statement,the money in your account is not your own,it belongs to the bank and the bank is free to do whatever with the money subject to the proviso that the same be made available back to you on demand sure this is new on you,buble burster.my communication with mtn does not belong to mtn,they remain mine and mtn cannot use my messages anyhow and they cannot block me anyhow and or deny me acess to data ive paid for and if they do that ,im entitled to sue.

Hmmmm, I see you are sure bent on going down a slippery slope.

Go through what you wrote up there in a calmer time, and then read the "T&C" of your SIM Card purchase. Note: an ability to sue has nothing to do with "ownership".

josite:
you obviously had a problem with english and therefore need to go back and get the point being made.and i restate my statement.
"......mtn will not divulge your calls and info except by a court order in lawful pursuit of investigations into a crime..".

to even begin to think either the efcc or the service provider should or should not ask the phone owner for consent is certainly puerile because the efcc or the service providers already knows what the response of the phone owner will be in that circumstance.hope you are helped.if not ,im here to offer further help.afterall its saturday.

Hmmm, sorry I can't help your comprehension issues since you aren't about to read to understand before jumping in. Ciao!

josite:
you are very wrong ,profoundly wrong.mtn will not divulge your calls and info except by a court order in lawful pursuit of investigations into a crime.quote me anywhere.

This is what happens when you jump into the middle of a discourse without following getting a handle on what the core issue is about.

The discourse wasn't about of EFCC needed a court order or not, it was if they needed the consent of you the phone owner. Hope this helps you.

lagosrd:
I dont just get some people in this country. So my privacy is not my property. Sorry dear victim of intimidation.

Sorry to bust your bubble, the phone in your hand is your own, the money in your account is your own.

However all over the world, the transactional details in your account are the property of the bank, which is why you'd have to ask the bank for your statement and they even charge you for it.

The phone in your hand and whatever is on it is your own, however all communications with it through the Telecoms operator is the property of the operator not you. They can cut you off, stop data to you or even deny your access to use their property. You'd be free to use your phone as a camera or radio if you so wish.

praxisnetworks:
;EFCC is a very corrupt organization. How can you tender illegally obtained exhibits in a court of law? They are just fooling Nigerians with fake anti corruption charges. Now I am waiting to see how they'll wriggle out of this..... I think someone should sue EFCC for wasting taxpayers money and causing unnecessary and unneeded media distractions.

EFCC doesn't require your consent to get details of your bank transactions from a bank, or your phone transactions from a Telecom operator. Both of these items are actually not your properties but that of the bank or telecom operator.

So once they obtain the requisite orders against the actual owners of the data, you the account holder or phone subscriber are inconsequential.

Great to see all the Congratulations flying across this thread, however IF a 15 year old boy can be saddled with running a kingdom and all sees nothing wrong with it, why do we then think a 15 year old girl cannot run a home?

Is their something different between the 15 year old boy and a 15 year old girl?

Godsonkemz:
The past administration relied on expertise such as Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Adesina, Prof Nebo, Onuyebuchi Chukwu among others while the incumbent government relies on incompetent party loyalists some of which have heavy load of money laundering allegations still hanging on their neck.

What did we get from the "expertise",
a. Mass looting of the treasury.
b. Free fall of the Naira. if you doubt it, Google is your friend or read the OP.
c. Loss of Foreign Reserve: At a time of Oil boom, while other nations were amassing Reserves, our experts were depleting our own.
d. The FGN for the first time in history could not pay Salaries, we had to borrow to pay. This is after a sustained oil price above $100 for 4 years.


Abeg, stop that crap about expertise. That expertise amounted to negative growth.

megastu:
so you are a family man, and you defraud Rita Dominic and you come brag here. If she takes this as evidence to EFCC, MY Brother na jail you see so. EFCC are not smiling these days.

Bros, you get eye and hand coordination issue ni? It is not me that did the fake bag selling o, na the guy wey I quote. Abeg o!!!

naijadeyhia:
She was scammed and the scam was so good she actually believes it and is fighting to defend it.
I once bought 2 replica prada bags for my wife, pink and black with a thick gold strip on the handle on it and when fedex delivered them they were so real with the ceritificate of authenticity. They cost me about 45k each and my wife couldnt stop flaunting them. One day she went to Rita Dominics birthday party at la campagne (rita is their family friend) and Rita saw the bag and loved it and insisted she wanted her own. My wife told me and I ordered another one with black/brown with the gold strip on it and my wife sold it to her as the original for 280k. That was the day I knew that replicas are amazing and haven't stopped buying them since. Those are the pics of the Prada bag. Truth be told, these replicas are so good that only the makers can tell the difference same with Lindas bags. linda na mugu raised to power infinity

When this post is brought to Rita Dominic's attention, then you and your wife would have a big explanation to give.

If one is gonna announce herself as belonging to an elite class of something, one cannot say he/she did not scrutinize the photo of such an announcement.

I find it strange that Linda wouldn't notice the bags being Grey in the pix if they are actually black. Anyway, it's her money, her life, her bag!

GANJAFARMER:
The problem with folks like you is that you're myopic in your reasoning .
If you want the card reader badly as a basis to ensuring that elections are free and fair then add it to the constituion and stop blaming the Supreme court for doing their job as it is written in our book( constitution)

I guess the Courts should also start asking "Accused" to submit their Birth Certificate rather than International Passports since the Constitution says I am a citizen only based on Birth or Marriage but those not say International passport.

While at it, we should scrap BVN since it is not even mentioned anywhere in our constitution.

yaki84:
imagine the whole elections were cancelled n new poll conducted, mkre than 1000 people dies. wike still win, udom still win, what will be ur benefit please? and also the card reader malfunctions n manual accreditation is adopted.....
d problemwith apc guys is not abt the cardreader or what the supreme court justices ruled, cos d same supreme court ruled in favour of ambode concerning the card reader which agbaje wwent to tribunal cos it wasnt used for accreditation in d guber elections in lagos state. the zombies r sad cos they lost out n couldnt grab atleast an oil producing state after bragging over n over abt it.
if una like 2019 carry guns or bombs come rivers or my state akwaibom, we will surely defeat apc hook line and sinker!
pdp wont come to lagos n win, they wont go to bornk n win nor in zamfara so apc can never come to akwaibom, rivers, delta, bayelsa n think of winning no matter what arsenals they will employ.

The problem with your views is simply that you are analysing only based on the myopic view of APC vs PDP.

By the way, that a party traditionally wins a state does mean the opposition cannot win that state at a point in life. The people in APC in Rivers or Akwa Ibom or Bayelsa are not Hausas or York, but friends, sons, daughters, mothers and fathers of the locals. They are Ikwerres, Ijaws, Kalabaris and Ogonis just as are in PDP.


Lagos had 85% Card Reader use while Rivers had about 22% card reader use. The Tribunal in the Lagos instance held that the elections complied substantially (85%), could you in all honesty say that a 22% should be deemed as substantial compliance?

I hope the NA goes ahead to amend the Electoral Act to put this SC shenanigans to shame. We as a nation will be better for it.

web2X:
The card readers had various types of problems. I witnessed one that was configured for a different unit.

Phones and computers have various types of problems. Heck, vehicles have numerous kind of problems, should we go back to our legs and hands as that is what is written in the Bible?

SMH.

linearity:
I don't think that is what the judgement said, in summary, it is saying that; the card reader can be used side by side with the voters' register; but if there is a dispute or discrepancy, the voters' register supersedes.

In essence, I cannot be denied the right to cast my vote, if the card reader invalidates me, but my name is on the voters' register; which makes a lot of sense.

Even in the US, electronic machines are not used to validate voters on Election Day....when you go to your district to vote, your name will be manually lookup on the district hard copy printed voters' register and you will be asked to sign against your name on that printout before a voter's ballot will be giving to you, which you will tender at the entrance of the voting booth before been allowed to vote.

Sure, however you failed to recognise that for your name to be on that Voters Register, you need to have a Social Security Number!

For us in Nigeria, that Voters Card was the SSN. How do you decide that a Kehinde Taiwo is different from a Taiwo Kehinde when there is nothing to rely on other than a piece of paper?

The justices just took this nation backwards, they've truncated our March to a better society governed by truth and desirous of progress.

It is a sad day indeed.

kevoh:
It's about time you stopped quoting and commenting, seeing that you really have and had no meaningful thing to say.

I accept your your self adulatory submission, however please do acquire some senses. It will do you good.

Melkizedek:
I am sure your type were the ones who refused to do theirs early enough hence why the deadlines were postponed..lawless nigerians! and yet you ask why they were collecting money for months..I am sure if the past administration stuck to the previous deadline YOU and your ilk will be the first to carry placards and protest against them for being 'insensitive'

Please remind me again, when was GEJ's deadline for TSA?

What happened?

kevoh:
I'm pretty sure I have more sense (brain) than you. BVN was announced in February 2014,
1.how long did it take Nigerians and ther lackadaisical attitude to get registered on the system?
2. How many made any serious move till the deadline was announced?
3. Can a system(BVN) start working with only 10% of about 150 million Nigerians registered with the remaining 90% who want change but refused to avail themselves for registration unless a deadline is announced?

By the way, who f*cking cares about who implements it? We just want a system that automatically checkmates fraud irrespective of who is at the top.YOU, GEJ and PMB should get some brains.

If you had any brain at all, you'd know it is brainless to claim you had more brains than anybody on a faceless forum.

Now, if you do not care about implementation of a policy or idea, then you've confirmed how truly brainless you are.

ican2020:
This cannot be true, why?
IPPIS is a biometrics anchored system which is suppose to take finger prints of all officers in the ministries.
The questions now are:
Can a single biometrics machine accept one officer's finger on many occasions without detecting it
Does it mean different finger prints of those outside the civil services was used to open the accounts
Who captured these so call names?
Why are they deleting the accounts without saving all the infos for proper investigations, so that appropriate sanctions can be applied
Something is wrong here and I will update this later

Deleting an account does not remove it from other systems, neither does it imply the data is not being kept somewhere. You could be making assumptions based on your limited knowledge.

kevoh:
Quit lying. BVN had been implemented way back in 2014. I did my registration in November 2014. It doesn't even matter who implements it, creating an INSTITUTION that will automatically checkmate fraud,embezzlement and corruption without any leader singing it on media propangada is what Nigerians what.

So GEJ implemented BVN, yet this 23,000+ were still collecting salaries for more than a year! Well done, please receive brain.

By your same reasoning, I hope you'd not say GEJ achieved much for Railways since rail lines were built since the 1960s and rail as a policy was started by the colonial masters.

SMH

lomprico:
mum uses nokia touch light phone. she has never had truecaller b4

Exactly the reason why her number would be in TrueCaller database. For your number to be in the database, it only needs to be in the Contact list of someone with TrueCaller app installed.

Only the UNLIST process can mark the data as "Flagged Not To Be Displayed". To get your number into that state, one has to go through the UNLIST process.

lomprico:
You r not right. I dialled my mums number on another persons phone who has trucaller and her number registered as mum. Even if u do what u just stated, someone somewhere with trucaller and has u as a contact will still give out d name ur number is stored with.

Please understand what I wrote, your mum has to UNLIST her number from TrueCaller. One MUST enlist otherwise it will appear in the database so long as someone with TrueCaller has the number in their phone.

So the keyword here is, UNLIST.

lomprico:
once u type any number, truecaller searches the www to locate any name tagged with that number, even if u dont have the app. when it first came out it used my facebook name to link my number, and that made me remove my phone number from fb. and also if i have truecaller app on my phone and ur number is among my contacts, its still links you to its data base, even if someone elese with d app dials that ur number, it shows d name i saved it with on my phone.
for eg my mus still uses nokia touch phone (she prefers it for its simplicity and she has never had a smart phone) but if search her number in a strangers trucaller app, the name 'mum" appears.

it a nutshell we are all exposed to this.

Actually, once you go through the UNLIST process of Truecaller, your name/identifier will not pop up again on anyone's phone so long as you uninstall Truecaller app from your phone.

Even if someone with the Truecaller app has you as a contact, your details/identifier will not be updated.

anonimi:
What is the MINIMUM wage in Canada?
What is the MINIMUM wage in our country

Why compare apples and oranges?

You are part of the reasons why our educational system is said to be backward, did the article base it's arguments on the minimum wages in the Venezuela or Libya?

BTW, What is the minimum wage in these classes?

Canada is an oil producing country, with numerous local refineries, the price of PMS is:

1. @CBN Rate of 200/$: 172/ltr
2. @Aboki Rate of 300/$: 258/ltr.


We must be doing something in Nigeria to sell it at 86.50/ltr.

Queennikky:
@ benmurraybruce

India which imports oil from us, sells
kerosene at Rs 14.96 per liter (₦44). Why is
kerosene cheaper in a nation that imports oil from us


I guess we should be asking them in national assembly, and not the other way round......


https://mobile.twitter.com/benmurraybruce/status/691865009530523648

Ben is a typical example of an educated illiterate! Should chocolate cost less in Côte d'Ivoire because Switzerland imports cocoa beans from them?

He that is talking, he licenses the movies shown by the SilverBird cinemas from US movie houses where movie tickets are $20 -$25, yet we pay N1,500 for it in Nigeria, are the movies not cheaper in Nigeria than US? Has he asked "how come?", he is only busy playing to the gallery.

What India imports from us is crude (raw material) while what we are importing into Nigeria is Kerosene (refined product), therefore we would end up paying more for it as we are buying their product to sell in our country. Simple sense would have helped him.