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tensazangetsu20:
Lol you think? You know how many people are fighting for the big 4 jobs lol.

Sure I know.
But big 4 is always recruiting rather than downsizing as seen in tech.

tensazangetsu20:
Finance is 100 times harder to break into than tech.

I disagree.

In finance, meeting the requirements for entry level roles is easier. Once you meet the requirements, the rest is how you perform at the screening.
Requirements like: Minimum of 2:1 in any field of study, less than age 27/28/29 etc.

But for tech, entry level role requirements now was experienced hire requirements previously.
Why will any company be requesting 3-5 YOE for a junior dev role?

I swear I saw an internship position in tech requiring 1-2 YOE. WTF!!

omotola90:
for experienced hire, I don't think so

Sure I was talking about entry level. For you to cross from a career in STEM, you're definitely not an experienced hire.

CaptainZubi:
SA

Na so you go drop "SA" till the end of time if you don't drop price.

SA kor, South Africa ni

idahme:
Which man refers to woman as real woman? I have never heard a guy say so ....

"Real woman" e no even sweet to pronounce am.

MT:
Are you into tech and how long have you been?

For over 1k to apply for a tech job doesn't mean it's saturated. Lot of them are "wannabes".

Majority of those who apply for a job are not fit . Individuals that still focus on syntax of a language, individuals that uses "class" but doesn't know what it does, individuals that don't know why and when to use "abstract class" as against "interface", individuals that have academic knowledge of "abstraction" and "polymorphism" etc.

If you want to be a software engineer, you need to see programming language like a human language. Some humans speak and write English like a toddler while some do like Shakespeare.

There lies your difference.

The benchmark you used to support your case was very faulty.

Out of the more than 1k applications, do you think the hiring managers have time to go through all? Note that they may want to hire just 5 devs.

UyaiIncomparabl:
LMAO.

Why did you drop though? That was your 50% sure bet of going up the zenith.

It's a tough market that requires high level skills and years of experience. Gone are the days of entry level jobs. Even internships are so scarce.

Also, no hope of being able to earn within 1 year of learning. If I don't earn, how can I learn? Tech bro gats to chop na.

The abroad I want to go to, those there are complaining that they send 300+ applications and got less than 10 interviews. Nigeria here, you can't even see up to 50 openings to apply to.

BigDawsNet:
Why don't u continue to learn that tech...

One day it may be useful oh

The more u practise, the more you become pro
When u Pro... na job go dey find u

I need a source of income as soon as possible.
And there are a lot of entry level roles in other fields that tech doesn't promise.

MT:
I don't need to.

I insist if someone needs to send 300+ applications to land an interview, he is not well skilled in tech.

Supply is greater than demand but you will not listen.
I saw a remote software engineering role posted on LinkedIn. Within 6 hours, it garnered over 1k applications.

MT:
Age is never a factor.

Come and see over 60 year old architecting complex, enterprise solution.

Only you can stop yourself, not age.

He was asking me about Big 4 accounting firms.

Albertone:
As long as you have a bachelors degree with at least 2:1, you can switch.

It will obviously be easier to understand concepts for people in related field, but you can do it.

I know of a Law graduate that had 2:1 at both his university and at law school. He wrote and passed each CFA levels in one sitting(he didn't fail any of the levels) while working as an investment banking analyst.

I know countless people from Sciences and Art backgrounds that wrote and passed ICAN and are now with the big 4 accounting firms.

For the roadmap, google has more information on that.

Stan2330:
How do I go about investment banking cos I’m interested too

You can also Google search to know more and visit Jarushub's site.

MT:
Any tech person that knows his onion won't send 300+ applications to land an interview.

I wish I could show you lot of unsolicited jobs from foreign companies that I ignored.

If you have to write 300+ applications to land an interview in tech, the problem is not with tech but your skill set. Time to upskill.

Take some time to play around "CScareers" sub-reddit on Reddit.

Unittyy:
Is age not a factor in these big 4 when it comes to employment?

Age is a factor.
27/28/29 maximum.

chatinent:
Come kirikiri you say no. Today na DPO birthday, enjoyment wan finish us.

When did kirikiri become police cell?

yungchop:
Bro can you please share the road map?? Is it possible for someone with a life science degree to switch to this role too? Without a degree?

As long as you have a bachelors degree with at least 2:1, you can switch.

It will obviously be easier to understand concepts for people in related field, but you can do it.

I know of a Law graduate that had 2:1 at both his university and at law school. He wrote and passed each CFA levels in one sitting(he didn't fail any of the levels) while working as an investment banking analyst.

I know countless people from Sciences and Art backgrounds that wrote and passed ICAN and are now with the big 4 accounting firms.

For the roadmap, google has more information on that.

MT:
Hogwash article.

Companies are actively recruiting for experienced hire and newbie who has lot of potentials.

You wont see SKILLED tech guy leaving IT for traditional industries.

There are so many moving parts in IT and you need to be well grounded and see how they influence each other.

I do not know where this op sees this false article. Genuine IT dudes are selling like hot cakes.

Gone are the days of newbies with potentials easily getting recruited.
Which newbie can compete against people with > 5 years of work experience?

Even in the US where a lot of opportunities abound, some computer science grads with experience send about 300+ applications and get less than 10 interviews.

How many roles are open in Nigeria?

Junior developer roles now require 3-5 years of work experience with knowledge requirements of a whole IT department.

Me I have dropped tech already o.
I'll look into investment banking or write ICAN and go the big 4 way.

I was learning tech so I can japa. But if God says I will japa, I'll definitely do with my investment banking or auditing knowledge.

ekehopp2:
Very interesting thread. 3 years. I hope the dozens of people that claimed they were starting out learning Tech eventually made something out of it 3 years later. Peace and regards to all!

At least they're more lucky than those just starting out now.
They would have had 3+ years of experience while newbies will be getting knocked by job market that favours only experience.

Arizoner:
No. I'm a gentleman. I will never hit a woman. It's against my principle. I just don't want to be taken for granted

She's married already. Don't stress yourself.

jose556:
Once upon a time, OAU used to rank top... If I say I don't know what happened to it, I lie...

What happened to it oo?

Jewessgratitud3:
This lady na mumu. She's allowing a married man who has uselessed himself and bore kids to useless her own life too. Untill they dump her before she get sense.

APOPTOSIS:
So this is exactly what the idiot had wanted Kardashian to be doing in the streets of the United States...

oz4real83:
Kanye West is using Bianca to revenge how the whites treated the blacks in time past . A woman won't allow a poor man to treat her the way Kanye is treating Censori, that is why men have to make money until they can make no more

So it's Kanye that asked her to be dressing like a lunatic?

pocohantas:
It is how you guys draw first blood and try to hide your hands.


The above was your post and you think I don't see you for WHAT you are? Boy move!

Trying to let you know that different men have different demands is what you call drawing of first blood?

Na you sabi sha

pocohantas:
Aren't you old enough to realise this is a forum and when you create a thread, COMMON SENSE would tell you that people would comment? I bet you are old enough to know this. The common sense part is the deficit.

Give yourself a break and acquire what you lack.

Trolls have affected your Nairaland mental health. You think everyone that counters you is out to exchange words.

I don't do e-fights.
If you wan fight me, make we pick location

pocohantas:
Lol. It is no more respect, now honour.

Before it is was men crave RESPECT, not LOVE.

Soon it would be WORSHIP.

Then same men would complain that women don't marry who they LOVE.

Aren't you old enough to realize that to each his or her own? That's his view!
If another man comes and says it's not honor, it's now long suffering, that's his own view.

Give us a break!

If a cult member gets sold out, it will be assumed that it was his babe who sold him out after being bought over. That's the day you stop sleeping with your eyes closed.

Someone here gave an account of how a cultist's babe was unalived. They tied her to a chair, inserted boiling ring in her private part and switched on the boiling ring.
All these was done by the ratted out cultist's members.

ayjay45:
I'm currently learning amazon kdp and I have free time to add one of the two
Crypto futures trading or freelance copywriting.

Pls advise.
I have a goal of scaling up to 1k dollars per month in a year or two from these online skills

Email marketing is better.

Crypto futures is high risk, high reward.

Email marketing is low risk, low reward but you can reach your 1k dollars target in no time if you're good... Without having to lose money like crypto.

Obainoman6:
True,

Tell me do you really like to be sucked down there?

See the werey OP too.

There should be psychiatric section on NL where people like you two should be.

suckmedownthere:
Check well he should be fingering the little girls and even fucking them around the corner.....touching their breasts and ynash...smiling like the devil when he does that...he is poor but happy

Mad people on NL don't disappoint 🤦🤦

pansophist:
''intent'' and ''proportionality'' are the measures that are used to determine if the value a person brings should be accepted.

For example, if you rescue a boy who fell inside a well, will you be angry at the boy if he brings a biscuit to you the next day as an appreciation? Of course not.

You will smile and be happy, because you know it's coming from a good place (intention), and a biscuit is what the boy can afford (proportionality).

But if the same boy brought a chicken bone that he ate, you will be angry and feel insulted. You won't accept it, and you will further question the boy's intention for such a gift that could pass as an insult.

A good example of this is the biblical story called ''the widow's offering'' (Marke 12-41-44). Jesus told his disciples that the widow gave more than the rich, even though she gave the smallest because it was all she had (exceeding proportionality), and came from a good place (intent).

Another one is the story of Cain and Abel. God appreciated Abel's sacrifice because it came from a good place (intent) and he gave the best of his farm harvest (exceeding proportionality). Unlike his brother Cain, who gave God a sacrifice that he would have disposed of anyway.

I hope I am clear enough. I can understand if you are not religious, but biblical stories are just easy for me to pass a point. I read the bible from Genesis to Revelation, and I love many of the stories inside.

So as I was saying, just because Dangote has more bilions than you doesn't mean you cannot give him a gift because people always judge by proportionality and intent. It is you, the giver, that is in the spotlight, and you can't give what you don't have.

Conversely, if Dangote gives you 20k naira, then reject the gift. Don't collect it and be angry that Dangote, a billionaire insulted you by giving you 5k.

Also, the receiver always retains the right of rejection. If after your assessment, you think someone's gift doesn't befits you, then politely reject it. You can't be angry at me because I insulted you by giving you dog food. Why you chop am?

God didn't accept the gift of Cain because God considers it unworthy. There was a post that made the frontpage a few days ago, where a man was angry that his long-term friend that lived in the US for over a decade gave him just 20k Naira.

But where I faulted him is the fact that he accepted the money, and then angry. That's wrong, and also a betrayal of one's word. Your words and actions should always match.

Don't accept gifts that you consider not good enough. And if you will accept it, then appreciate it. That is consistency.

Words on Marble!

You've actually changed how I view offering and receiving value.

Will keep this in mind, thank you.