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This simply means Lagos state is a village compared to New-York City.

kaykay123: This guy is an impostor,I want to believe he has never been to Ikeja,he needs to tell us his real names

My bad, I drive through Ikeja a lot and i never for once had to pass through those kind of roads except at the end of Adeniyi jones.

I believe you'll have to search hard to find roads like that. At least i can say 90 percent of the roads in Ikeja are tarred.

deeptesting: Thank for your positive contribution and just to add my 2 cents people should stop the idea of supporting an over bloated cost contract just because they seem to belong to a political party or are supporters of a political party..

Provide your evidence that its over bloated or hold your peace.

redsun: Channel TV should be exposing all these atrocities in nigeria like it did with police college.The nightmare hits home better when it is shown on regular TV channel that average nigerians tune into.

You're so right on this, maybe when their @rses are exposed on TV with repeat broadcasts, then they'll know that eyes are on them.

Tundeolaniyi: My friend don't talk as if you are the only one from SW. As much as I blame Orji so much, I know that apart from lagos which was the former capital of Nigeria, there is no other SW city or state that has the capacity of being compared with the least SE state or city. If we do a comparative analysis, SE has got better leaders when you compare them to their SW counterparts since 1999. Sentiments aside, am Yoruba but due to virtue of having been to the two regions and presently working in Onitsha, am in the better position to draw that conclusion.

Yes, we in the S.W had our fair share of incompetent leader......Under PDP.

Abeg, where did you say is as bad as these roads in Ikeja again??

O.G.D won't be doing G.E.J any favours with his support.

He's seeking relevance again.

With all the States Babangida added to Nigeria, see where we are as a nation.......

We need the existing states to develop their economic viability.....not the addition of more states.

Tundeolaniyi: This type of road is everywhere. Even my area here in Ikeja is worse than this. But that is not to say that Orji should not wake up to his responsibilities.

Liar. There is no place in Ikeja that looks like this.

Where in Ikeja are u talking about?? Liar.

@OP. You're so right. The fixation on Lagos is too much, they criticize the Governor at every turn meanwhile their own Governors are nothing to write home about.

Lagos also seems to be the only State big things are happening in Nigeria.


Just watch, they'll come here to insult you without trying to prove you wrong with sensible reasons.

Abagworo: I'm so certain that if we dig Nairaland archive for topics on the bad roads in Aba, it could exceed 100. Here are just a few

1) https://www.nairaland.com/1392529/bad-roads-massob-curses-abia

2) https://www.nairaland.com/1366503/state-roads-aba

3) https://www.nairaland.com/1053322/lawyers-protest-bad-roads-aba

4) https://www.nairaland.com/562655/roads-aba

5) https://www.nairaland.com/1086866/pictures-aba-roads-weep-state

6) https://www.nairaland.com/1236161/bad-government-abia-state

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Abagworo: I'm so certain that if we dig Nairaland archive for topics on the bad roads in Aba, it could exceed 100. Here are just a few

1) https://www.nairaland.com/1392529/bad-roads-massob-curses-abia

2) https://www.nairaland.com/1366503/state-roads-aba

3) https://www.nairaland.com/1053322/lawyers-protest-bad-roads-aba

4) https://www.nairaland.com/562655/roads-aba

5) https://www.nairaland.com/1086866/pictures-aba-roads-weep-state

6) https://www.nairaland.com/1236161/bad-government-abia-state

Its not about how many threads there are on NL, the question is "What is being done about these roads"??

I'm glad there are aa lot of mature Igbo folks on this thread.

We need more pics like this from all regions to expose our leaders to their responsibilities.

Everything isn't about APC and PDP.

Hmmmm....The Japan of Africa.

Those Rams also have profiles.....Names like "Baby Face", "Terminator", "Sadam", "Shina Rambo" etc.

I saw a poster once with the names of the Participating Rams and couldn't stop laffing my head off at their names.

[quote author=$£yi]Good observation OP.
And ba7man your points are so true.
But I put 60% of the blame on environmental sciences lecturers in schools(archi lecturers specifically).
They are so not ready to blend with the modern architecture.
Any design that is above their understanding due to their outdated method of design is useless and unachievable. They prefer square-like shapes and discourage irregular and edgeless shapes like the hotel the OP has above.
Another major factor that hinders few Nigerian architects that like to make crazy designs from doing so is power(electricity). By the time you consider all these factors of lightening, ventilation and the likes when designing you will realize that you've been pinned down to the normal trend if you want your design to be effectively functional. Architects in the western and eastern world have little of these factors to put into consideration due to power and technological advancement.
Even in near-by Ghana, you have less to put into consideration when designing just because they have stable electricity.[/quote]Thank you for butressing my point. Even when i was studying Architecture in school, whenever you try to explore creativity, you're told its unrealistic and you would be drilled rather than encouraged.

It was until i graduated and started reading foreign mags like Architectural Digest, Ideal Home, books like "Complete Zaha Hadid nd watched "A list listings" that i truely knew creativity.

What a gay guy chooses to do with his @sshole is between him and his God.

@TOPIC. Now Darren Young is one gay dude Homophobes wouldn't dare touch.......you might end up on the receiving end of a "back breaker" followed by a well placed "Elbow smash".

Best avoid him.

Inspiration for design is endless....just look into Nature and you'll find it.

I'm an Architect and i also dream of creating masterpieces.....but the problem is....

(1) They are very costly to acheive. The reinforcement and structural design of that Sheraton Hotel in China will definitely cost way more than that of the Oriental Hotel in Lekki.

The client's pocket is a limiting factor to creativity.

(2) Such designs also come at the expense of space efficiency. The most space efficient buildings are either square or rectangle.

Look at the Hotel....that hole in the middle would probably be filled up to contain rooms if it were to be designed in Nigeria.

(3) Most clients also have a vision of what they want their houses to look like. Its only a few that give you free reign to be creative.

They tell you about a house they saw and how they want theirs to look like it.

I always succumb because they're the ones that will live in it in the end so why not give them what they want.

Minus these 3 factors, I wouldn't mind a Zaha Hadid inspired building. Google that name and be inspired.

Katsumoto: I have started working on the script for the movie. I am not sure what to call it; so many titles are playing in my head.

Perhaps I can get a few suggestions. So far I have

1. Nnamdi is sharp but Ahmadu is sharper
2. My destiny was changed - The Obafemi story
3. Armageddon in Nigeria
4. Unforgivable
5. You betrayed me, na lie you betrayed me first

Since some Igbo dudes here like to drop facts based on percentage, we could add "We Control 80 Percent of the House".

Katsumoto: Abi now

Holywood Script Writers Association awaits you.

anonimi: @ba7man,

Now I see that it was your comprehension problem that led you to conclude that I said what I clearly did not say but you wrongly concluded that I implied.
How does stating a fact that Lagos has been federal capital for some 100 years with INFRASCTRUCTURE developed with Niger Delta oil revenue compared to Akwa Ibom starting from SCRATCH imply that state is HARDER to govern?
Is it that you have REDUCED governance to simply the establishment of infrastructures
Don't you think that is not only elementary but also totally misleading?

BTW, where did you get the 18 million population figure for Lagos from?
Plucked from the air somewhere
FYI and others who may be deceived by such outrageous population figures, in the 2006 census Lagos has 9,113,605 behind Kano state with 9,401,288 while Akwa Ibom state has 3,902,051.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_population

Has there been any other census since then?
Is there any chance we can stick to VERIFIABLE FACTS when we discuss

Don't tell me you believe those bogus census figures provided by the FG. Are you a learner?? Who doesn't know they normally downplay the population in the south?? I guess you're one of the last people left that believe this.

The LASG even currently projected the population at 21 million so I'm being modest by saying 18 million. The parallel census conducted by the LASG in 2006 reported 17.5 million but i know you'll dodge that link and go pick up the one that suits you view.

With the way you rave and rant about LASG, it seems you think its child's play governing Lagos/ using Akwa-Ibom as comparism that its starting from scratch is now supposed to imply what now??

Of course anybody that knows you would know that you're trying to say Lagos State should have it easier than Akwa-Ibom due to its past position as Federal capital......And for your information, lagos has been developed before oil was discovered in Nigeria.

Dark Metallic Grey.

anonimi: Let us also not forget the [b]INHERITED infrastructure advantage of Lagos being the capital of Nigeria for some 100 years i.e. a century with Niger Delta oil revenue used all these years. Unlike states like Akwa Ibom that have nothing to start with and have to develop from SCRATCH!

If that aint what else you're implying here.....I don't know ooo.....

The fact that you're not aware that Governing a State of approx 18million requires patience, "TIME!!!" and excellent administration skills for development to go round also shows you're not logical.

Do you consider how many roads are in Lagos?? The environmental degredation, the congestion, the slums, pressure and decay on existing infrastructure on-going for decades??

Did you expect everyone (approx 18 million) will just magically reap the benefits of Good governance??

This is a fact I've known since i was way younger. The problems of Lagos are "World-Class problems" and can't be solved in 10-15 years. Fashola will not fix all the roads and existing problems....the next Governor will inherit it.

You're just being unrealistic....apply logic to your thought process.

The same way I refrain from insulting G.E.J. He can't solve all the problems in Nigeria even if he goes for second term but he needs to show more urgency......That is what Fashola has. Just watch, this road's contract will soon be awarded.

@ Anonimi. When next you argue, argue to learn, not to prove you know. I'v learnt from people like @Sincere Nigerian and @Tarhaqa (people against my school of thot) by just simply being quiet and analyzing what they said.

By saying Akwa-Ibom is harder to Govern, you just revealed that you don't really know what you're talking about (And you have one of the loudest voices).

That's like saying ruling Brunei is harder than ruling India.....That's bonkers, man.

anonimi: All the dogo turenci above simply confirms what quite a number of people have known for quite some time and oters are slowly realising- Fashola is a dismal FAILURE in delivering BASIC services to all residents of Lagos STATE but a spectacular success in raising REVENUE from the same residents.
14 years (ALMOST ONE & A HALF DECADES) of continuous, unbroken "progressive" administration of Tinubu and his boy, Fashola with gargantuan increase in IGR yet the "excellent" duo cannot fix the BASIC problems of the state.
SMH!!!

Yeah, its difficult when you're to provide for approximately 18 million people living in one of the most congested urban sprawls in the world........But that you mentioned Akwa-Ibom being a harder State to Govern just revealed it to me that the foundation of your arguement is flawed.

You need to read more.

Damn, So Akwa-Ibom is harder to run than Lagos?? What a joke. I'm not the most intelligent guy around but these guys beat me.

Google effects of over-population and read it up. You weren't listening in class when it was being taught.

Also note that its a Nigerian context....before they start mentioning "New-York city has a large population too".

anonimi: Thank you for pointing out the population ADVANTAGE of Lagos. Nor mind these people dem.
When dem dey chop 60% IGR from the pockets, wallets, bags & handbags of Lagosians inside dem annual budget dem nor dey complain of population oh!
Once you talk of providing COMMENSURATE BASIC SERVICE na im dem go dey open mouth talk population this, population that. Meanwhile Kano state has a BIGGER population than the Lagos state sef!!!
Let us also not forget the INHERITED infrastructure advantage of Lagos being the capital of Nigeria for some 100 years i.e. a century with Niger Delta oil revenue used all these years. Unlike states like Akwa Ibom that have nothing to start with and have to develop from SCRATCH!
These ACN people na real PENKELEMESS, propaganda-fuelled progressives!!!

f you can't understand the negative effect of an over-crowded, decaying,largely unplanned urban sprawly that's one of the largest in Africa on effective Governance......I'm sorry i have no business talking to you.

So its easier to Govern and carry out projects in a sleepy bushy location than an overcrowded, unplanned city that's so large its one of the largest gathering of people in the world??

Seriously, its one of the ways I now judge intelligence.

What's the point of a Large population when a large percentage of them are a liability on the State??

Large population is only a plus when the State's economy can empower them.

Damn!! Some people really feel intelligent, didn't they study Social Studies in primary school dealing with the effects of over-crowding in cities??

It leads to rapid decay of infrastructure, crime, diseases, dirty environments etc....Lagos has been decaying for decades before this administration.

If you can't understand this simple lesson taught in Primary school, God help you.

[quote author=IGBO-SON]^^^Hehehehehe

They secretly like us, but don't want to admit it! I think they feel safer in this country when they look besides them and see Igbos with them!

I've a picture in my mind of one guy accusing another of wanting to dominate him.....being greedy......being materialistic, and when the person being accused turns around and makes for the door to leave, the accuser dives at his legs and clings on for dear life preventing him from leaving. The person being accused looks down and tells his traducer: 'haba bros! let go make i comot now!'......without looking up, the other replies: 'NO! you're going nowhere; i don't like you but i still want us to be friends!'.


[/quote]C'mon, that wasn't how it happened.

As the other guy (The accused) made for the door, he took the bag of foodstuffs in the room and attempted to leave with it , the accuser grabbed his shirt, tore it and beat the living daylight out of him (The accused). He tried to fight back bravely but to no avail till he surrendered.

He was then sat on the floor and warned never to that room with the bag of foodstuff in the house.

There's so much excess money blowing around in the hands of the Government officials of that State.

Not too long ago, wasn't Akpabio looking for a sum of money later recovered hidden in an Air conditioning unit.

A result of receiving one of the highest allocations in the country to cater for barely a population of 5million and tiny urban spread.

But the road is truely bad. I'm sure it will be fixed soon.

That's still no reason for some people that have no clue about how to run anything to start mouthing off as if they know what they're talkin about.

People should also stop mentioning Akwa-Ibom when Lagos is concerned. The people living in that Ejigbo axis most likely will reject moving to Akwa-Ibom even if they're aware of the infrastructure there.

[quote author=t-something]You guys always use this population story as an excuse for his failures. Cairo is an African city more populated than Lagos state yet they have everything working .

Lagos state is what it is in terms of economy due to its huge population , else without that, it won't be any attractive than Ekiti. If you enjoy the financial benefits of a huge population, you should also be man enough to confront her challenges. So stop complaining about population.

By the way, what has population got to do with fixing a few Km of local road? Is Fashola feeding 18 million Lagosians with the money? How many Lagosians attend his public schools? How many Lagosians does he treat free or even at subsidized rate? Even the few roads he built he collects tolls on them, so in essence due to the large population you're complaining about , Fashola is able to recoup all the money spent in constructing the roads with profits.

So stop spinning that population excuse ! The HUGE POPULATION IS A PLUS TO LAGOS![/quote]If you can't understand the negative effect of an over-crowded, decaying,largely unplanned urban sprawly that's one of the largest in Africa on effective Governance......I'm sorry i have no business talking to you.

So its easier to Govern and carry out projects in a sleepy bushy location than an overcrowded, unplanned city that's so large its one of the largest gathering of people in the world??

Seriously, its one of the ways I now judge intelligence. What's the point of a Large population when a large percentage of them are a liability on the State??


Do you even know how much Cairo receives and generates as its Monthly allocation??

The same tiny, sparsely populated Uyo?? You pour that type of monthly allocation which they receive into it and nobody should expect less....infact, more is expected sef. That State can fund a project similar to the Eko Atlantic City without stress.

True the infrastructure is good tho and it will come in handy in the future but the work to be done there is miniscule compared to Lagos that almost everywhere is occupied. To work in Lagos, you have to destroy, cause unavoidable pain on commuters, businesses, relocate people, deal with people milkin the situation for political gains, organize publicity in the media to inform people of the benefits of the project......but Akwa-Ibom, just enter bush, clear and start building.

Something Important is Still missing in the "World Class City" being built. Why is no one flocking there yet??

If that isn't adressed, its those Keke-Marwa i normally see plying those roads and those rural looking buildings by the "World class roads" that will continue being there.