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somehow:
For the project in question, he didn't underquote, his quotation was the highest amongst the 3 submitted.

I'd really like to know what made you choose his quotation and can you be so kind to make mention of the names of the other 2 persons who gave a quotation especially if they are also our in house professionals/contractors.......

abdulwastecx:
It's easy to paint unrealistic pictures and defraud people of their hard earn money.

Building construction is not magic and no amount of thinking out of the box can make you execute a 40m project for 30m (a tleast at carcass level). What you get is a guy without the most rudiments idea of how structural engineering works under valuing jobs that he knows will not work but still went ahead to do because he has the intention to defraud and run away with peoples money at the end of the day.

Contractor do have issues with client but such issues should not be as a result of incompetence or fraud and must be resulted mutually without being taking to the public. Because anyone using the social media space to solicit for work should never allow bad publicity that will sow seed of doubt in their mind.

You are the last person I expected to join in this bandwagon.
It seems to pain many that submitted quotation on the job and others that n3xt had a upper hand to have gotten the job and it's turning out everyone is aggrieved due to the fact of this fall out the clubhouse is pointing fingers. It's not a surprise because n3xt made mention of the quotation of others.
I'm only surprised that he allowed himself to get into this mess.

bixton:
Good Day........
Please can anyone help with the number of yards needed of DPM of an area 11.1m*10m...
Thanks......


Also is there anyone in Uyo with reliable information on the price to lease/hire per day Howo 10 tyre truck for usage..........
Thanks.

Please is there anyone who can help with the question/enquiry above........,

Good Day........
Please can anyone help with the number of yards needed of DPM of an area 11.1m*10m...
Thanks......


Also is there anyone in Uyo with reliable information on the price to lease/hire per day Howo 10 tyre truck for usage..........
Thanks.

n3xt:
Yep!

Is there anyone doing such in nigeria and at what rate....

mascot345:
Please I just clocked 35 years two days ago.
I have money to get married but I wan build small estate before marriage.

I wan marry at 40 .

Please I need good advice here. As our economy is too bad. I don't want to bring children that will come and suffer.
People are seriously advicing me to marry next year.
I already have land in a good location.

But some of my girlfriends are encouraging me to marry them before building anything.

My girlfriend said we can hustle together and build a better tomorrow.

I have like 3 girls who are willing to say yes next year.

Please good advise is welcomed.
Thanks everyone.

I cannot advice you with regards to the girls since I don't know the character/attitude they individually exhibit.
Another thing I would say is that do you have any family member that you truly can trust and who can keep a secret and not run mouth..



Now while your decision to build a small estate is good given you have a land at a good location.
My first question to you is that do you have a personal house of yours first where you're resident and not paying rent?

Another is the size of the land you want to use for the small/mini estate?

If you're business conscious my sincere advice is to first start up a business that's self sustainable and having less risk under proper management and good diligence and you can use the profits from the business some part of your savings/earnings from work to start the construction of the mini estate.

You can get in touch with me for your building construction works though and any more via email.

DFAMEGUY11S:
good morning sir, pls do you mean glossy tille which is super polish or what pls confirm what the person meaning

Good Morning
I really don't know.
I've asked the person to send me a pix of what he means and wants or what it looks like.
I'll post same pix if he sends it to me.
Thanks.

DFAMEGUY11S:
Hello good morning my people i hail you all

Well am still here to provide you quality building materials such as:

Tiles
Marble
Granite
P.v .c Laminete floor
Wooden tiles
Wall paper
Doors
Jacuzzi
Shower
Tape
Toilet seat( WC )
Water heater
Showerroom
Etc

We have all kinds of design and colours make your
Order and we are capable of deliver to anywhere
Interested person can contact me with this No : 07087953771
https://www.nairaland.com/6609728/osinachiadima-global-enterprise

Good day.......
Please is there any tile specifically called a Glacier Tile and if there is can you post a pix of it.......thanks.

michlins:
I don't know if you like something like the picture below. We call it starter and the client pays for them. So you will decide the places you want to put them and quantity. Each goes for 10,000.

Or we can replace it with 3" wrought iron pipe (60*60) and find a cover for for the top.

Without the starter, the price is 40,000/m and with the starter, it's is 37,000/m

No I don't like it.
Thanks.

michlins:
you can have a look at these. First two are wrought but can be modified to normal rods to suit a budget

Good design.
If you are to combine your design but with any of the bold stands on the pix below....what would the cost be..........
Measurement is about 14.23 metres.

Also when you say normal rods.....what's the life span of it for outdoor placement and what type of normal rods and cost as well.....

Thanks.

Good Day House
Please who can recommend a good glacier tile to use for this entrance porch both floor and wall. Preference to colour type would be any two of the mentioned colours: golden yellow, white and dark purple.


Oga Michlins can you recommend a good handrail design or using a stainless steel is better....

Thanks for your kind responses.

flexyonline:
Bros, I know you will not like to hear this but I think it is time to cut your losses and move on. Take the 100k as school fees in the school of the streets. I am talking as someone who has had to deal with issues like this on my build. Some workmen are just unfortunate fellows and you do not allow their issues hold you back. Try to learn from this and come up with a process that works for you in these transactions. Sorry eh.

Why will he like what you have to say.....
Like he said all that's happening is but a litmus test.

There's so much hypocrisy and double tongued fellows on this thread and never too good characters pretending to be something when they are nothing.

All what the southern governors needs do is to empower the masses to enforce the law/policy. Anyone who sees cows roaming the streets can lay claim to the cows.

I have not heard where any southerner lays claim to any part of the North for any form of business.

What manner of ancient business is this? Is this how cow owners raise cows in Saudi Arabia..........or in Nigeria it's the cows who are rearing the humans

alstacs:
This is beautiful. I've always detested block work cos they usually appear ugly and less functional. However, this is really beautiful and well constructed.

If it's beautiful I wonder the ones you previously saw that were ugly and you detested them.......

EgunMogaji2:
I also think that most Nigerians think that kitchens are the domain of house help so it doesn’t need to be over the top.

I don't understand the kind of brains those Nigerians have......
Did they borrow money from the maid to build the kitchen section while they do rest of the build.......

rotecch77:
We are constructing same on this project.
8 kitchens

Watch out
Work is in progress

This your kitchen size is for what manner of build........did the fashion designer not get enough space to make it larger

emmaachile2:
I will send you when I get home. If you are in Lagos, I can direct you to visit a dealer there

Okay. Thanks. I'm in the Niger Delta region.

emmaachile2:
I major in sortexed brown ofada rice but I also have the samples of the Tiamin rice though not available for bulk buyers in my shop currently. Someone only gave me some bags and I only have a bag left for personal consumption.
If you have the cash, you can get the dealership from the company but it's over a 130m to become one right now.

Okay. Can you post a snap shot of a handful of the rice. You did not say how much is a bag and what are the sizes........

I will consider dealership when I get my partnership rights in order.

PAPAFEELERS:
Good day All and trust your day is progressing well.

Please what can one add to a soakway to douse the odor emanating from it? the soakaway is not full just to make it clear but the odor comes out from the vent ontop of the soakaway.

I am wondering if there are chemicals or freshners that can be placed in the soakaway or vent to douse the order?

We learn everyday and the knowledge shared will be beneficial to the society.

Cc: NEXT, Spyder,Rottech, abdulswastexc,Egunsbaba,Twinskenny,Gbadexy

I dont know of any but as a child I was told salt does many wonders.

michlins:
that should be 33" and 3ft is 36". That leaves a difference of 3" which is 1.5" on each side.

Please try and do a closure on this matter with the client offline.
It's well.

michlins:
the same clearance is the matter here. It's 1.5" on both sides.

Apologies let me ask you this question.......

I can see that from the client's post of the door sent as mounted on the provided space the mortar chalking space is about 2-3" on the left side and on the right it's lapping on the wall.
Please can you help read the dimension on the tape as shown on the pix as to where the door ends on it............
Thanks

n3xt:
To be honest, I didn’t understand it that way. I thought she wanted more than 3ft.

The space left for the door is exactly 3ft. I think the door should be fit into that space and not be reduced for whatsoever reason.

That size of door is toilet size and not fit to serve as a main entrance door.

As a matter of fact, we are only managing 3ft door for entrances. 4ft (single opening) door or larger door is just about the acceptable size.

She won’t be able to bring sofas or a double door fridge through that door.

________

Here’s a door I have on a personal project. The door itself minus the frame is 32 inches.

Even at that it's a no no for a main entrance door to be of that size. And of what good use is going for custom size.....

Some years ago I did a renovation for my family house. When I removed the wooden toilet/bathroom doors and took measurement of door opening it came out full 1000mm.
I had previously asked the price for a toilet door without giving out any dimension/measurement. When I later sent the exact measurement to the GMP guy there was an increase in price and I had to pay. I only to do exactly what I gave him or give an allowance of 1" clearance on both sides of the door.

michlins:
Even in the noise and distractions, here's what I promise my clients. If I tell you that this thing is white, that's what it is. Another thing is to do my best to satisfy the client.

What I can't do however is sell my self respect and dignity to appease someone. My goal is to deliver quality service while making honest living

Humility is not making less of self but making self less.

emmaachile2:
If you can get rice from the likes of Tiamin (Kano) or Lula (gombe), you don't need foreign rice. Those are the best rice in Nigeria.

Do you happen to have samples of such rice and what would be the cost of such per 50kg/100kg processed form....

Thanks

michlins:
Sir here's what I can assure you,if I tell you that this thing is white,go anywhere else, it's white. I didn't deceive her or anyone else

There are those who see you geninuely and there are others who don't. Because there are challenges in built environments, the most important obligation of a contractor is to satisfy the needs of the client. There are times it comes to near satisfaction but in this nearness it should be something that will not disrupt the client's sleep.

Just take all that's happening to be a learning process and try to know how you deal with every client ensuring you give them what will appeal to them delighting in every detail.

I am not holding brief for you and neither for the client. Reason is that judging by the pix posted by the client your fabrication with is in order except the client wants the frames hidden in block/mortar.

Another reason is that when a door is said to be of custom made and design it meets the exact size with little or no need for adjustments.

The above is one of the reasons I do a door opening of 1000mm instead of 900mm.

michlins:
Good morning everyone. This was what happened.

When she made contact, I asked her if she wanted a commercial door or personalized door and she chose the later. I showed her samples and she made a choice. When I told her the price, she called me on phone to negotiate and I explained in details what materials I will work with and I specifically mentioned plain pan.

She was part of the building process as she receives daily update on what I was doing which includes more than two pictures at a time. After painting the doors, that's why she started the issue. I was still explaining to her on WhatsApp why the door can't have the design on the back but she rushed here. The reasons are as follows;

The size of pipe is 1½" and that design takes up 1¼" so there's no space at the back to do anything else.

Another thing is weight. Already that door is very heavy as it is due to the materials which are basically wrought iron. 14mm wrought iron was used to make the design. Adding more weight will affect the frame and hinges.

I even gave her an offer. I told her if anyone else will do that same door for 80,000 in Lagos, I will dash her 50,000 for inconveniences. The only reason I wanted to do the job for her at the price even with significant looses was to advertise my business here and around her estate and I told her that even before I started. Calling me a fraud and cheat wasn't what I expected.


At this point, I regret taking the job.

There's no need to say you regret.
This is NL and NL is a country of its own.
In NL it's easy to call someone such derogatory names but they don't know it's so easy to wipe it off even if they delete the posts.
I guess in subsequent jobs please let every pictorial detail be sent to the client to avoid such stories. Please ensure even when you say plain design or not kindly forward pix of all sides of the sample product or finished product. Many clients when finding faults will not remember what was discussed over the phone. This is one of the reasons many people rely on voice notes as evidence.

Do what you do and keep doing it good and better. God will do the remaining for you.

[quote author=Jeff68 post=104618441][/quote]Apologies for such things happening. It's nice to see that despite the attitude of the untrusted and people lacking integrity it did not deter you from getting your build to the level it is.


This is what I tell a client whenever they ask if they can trust me.............I tell them. I don't expect you to trust me but what I do know is that I'll not cheat you. Whatever thing we agree as payment for my services please kindly do well to abide to it. I don't like working half hearted.

Jeff68:
My Brother, you are one of a kind! You are so encouraging!! if you only knew the kind of stories clients deal, with,(i speak from that angle because I am one) I had a friend killed in Nigeria because he came home and there was no house built by the said contractor who later conspired with the brother to kill this man. I personally have been taken advantage of because I am not on ground by some on this forum and some not. Nigerians just do not understand that word "TRUST" it has plagued us everywhere we have been in this world. Till date, I am still looking for just ONE person I can "TRUST" in Nigeria, including family members, to complete my project and there is NON! Many promise to be honest until they see money, or its in their hands and the story changes. Off course everyone has their own side of the story.
GOD BLESS YOU

I don't understand the kind of trust you're looking for if you've not seen just one person to have a trust on to complete your project or have anything to do with........

Slimslimqq:
Good evening elders.

A friend of mine needs urgent advice before taking a bold step.

He relocated to south Africa 6 years ago, and since he traveled he has been sending home some amount of money to help his father complete his house.

So last year, unfortunately his father died and has since been buried.

He just arrived from south Africa since then. Now he wants to renovate his fathers house to 3 bedroom flat because he's planning to marry next year, He's not returning to south Africa.

But, his mom declined and said she won't allow him take over the house from her, though he promised to rent an apartment for her but declined.

Now this has caused a lot of problem between the mother and son, because the son claims he built d house to that stage but the mother is claiming she is his mother and the wife to the late owner(father).

He's planning on taking drastic steps which I have advised him against, but he seems not to understand everything I'm saying.

I told him about nairaland, that there are experienced people who will give him d best advise and he's given me a go ahead.

I will be sending these page link to him, so he can hear from d public and then know what to decide.

He needs your sincere advise.

Thanks

Please help us help a brother

To start with, your friend's attitude just shows the woman is not his biological mother. Even if he bought the land and built everything from scratch with his money for his father he is should know that it also belongs to his mother. This attitude just shows he is has an underlying unsettling issue with the woman he calls his mother and this house is not the genesis of it.

Please kindly tell us the real issue behind all this drama.
Why will a son rent a house for his mother when her late husband has a house!!!!!!

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

There seems to be a misconception as to the purpose of prayers. But I would not write much based on your short narrative for you have your reasons.
But whatever the case maybe.....I want you to open your Bible and read that STORY CHRIST JESUS spoke of the rich man and Lazarus and also about that rich man after gathering/storing wealth told himself that he ought to rest now and Jesus said he died that same night for God called such a person foolish .

I hope you'll understand the point I'm coming from.
Shalom.

n3xt:
Let me buy this space for something interesting.

Baba @diordavies I’m coming back for your input on this my foolish please-me business approach.

Baba @egunmogaji2 you might want to chip in one or 2 thing in this use-your money to run client business strategy because I did and I just have to laugh.

I’ll be right back. I’ve been extremely busy on an extreme makeover project.

Please baba in your write up try accommodate the contractor is at the mercy of the client.
It's NL unwritten law.

BrickDevo:
bricklayer and their nosy attitude, engineer didn't specify it in the structural drawing, why bother does it mean that the bricklayer is more experienced than the Engineer, I personally don't like it when a bricklayer does this kind of stuff. This is how I nearly slapped one bricklayer on site after he did opposite of what I told him, even went behind my back to speak to the client to defending his actions......

However since the land is dry, I don't think the introduction of beam is necessary, but if you can afford it, go ahead.

Many of these confusion and noisynez of artisans is the fault of the client. They don't have confidence in the engineer and at every point in time they spend more time discussing with artisans on site. This is one of the reasons I hardly work with strange artisans. Before you know the services of the engineer will be terminated before the completion of the project.