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Right now it's looking a straight fight between Osinbajo and Tinub. Iam sure Tinubu will fight dirty and would rather crash APC than see Osinbajo emerge President over him.

Southerns should also wake up and take serious heed of the population explosion in the North. It is a clear s growing danger to our security and well being. The northern parasitic hordes will flow down south to consume our resources. They will seek to displace us from our lands. This is but another reason why the south must fight for restructuring including state police.

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This is the fight of the year for sure. AJ will is going to be tested by a VERY good fighter. He will have to be at his best. I expect it to go the distance and AJ to win on points. Lets get ready to rumble!!!

VaselineCrew:
A party leader that brought bullion vans (plural) to his house a DAY BEFORE AN ELECTION.

I was on this thread reading comments, and see how the top comment on the first page with over a hundred likes is a comment in support of a Tinubu presidency.

https://www.nairaland.com/6761567/2023-presidency-waiting-tinubu-decide/2

I really don’t understand how the minds of Nigerians work.

You guys never care about development, the welfare of your country or even immediate society. Do you see how tough things are now? Dollar is about 550 or so, and prices of goods are shooting through the roof, whereas infrastructure like electricity and good roads with closed drainages are still lacking, together with so many other issues.

Someone on that thread was only doing math, stating how Tinubu will get the majority of Yoruba votes as he is their son. So if your son becomes president, will that immediately change the dollar rate? Will that collapse food prices? So you will just vote for someone because he is your “son”, even if that means you continue to suffer? What is the benefit then? Bragging on an empty stomach?

I tire for Naija men. The way we choose leaders always reminds me of the MMM fiasco, were the majority of people on nairaland threads, it seems, where always brutally supporting MMM and cursing the few people who could see that MMM was indeed a scam an a very obvious one at that, yet all you would be hearing then from the supporters of MMM was “you don’t understand get help and bla bla bla”

Why are obvious things made so complicated in Naija? This is a man who as I said earlier, brought 2 bullion vans to his house before an election, yet you will overlook this very obvious malfeasance. All the countries that your brothers and sisters run to, awon Canada and the rest, even U.K that your Tinubu is now, is that how their leaders bring bullion vans to their house before elections? Yet you still don’t care.

You don’t care at all about having good roads, without open rotting gutters, a great police and military force, advancements in technology, agriculture and healthcare, you don’t care about the economy, nothing, all you care about is that your corrupt son is there, even if that means you die of hunger (which I pray against), I mean come on!

Even if I tell you that if you are successful in electing a Tinubu, Atiku or whatever other rubbish candidate that Nigeria will get worse, you will still go ahead and do so. But why?

Why are you all so programmed to pick the worst of the worst? Why are you programmed to pick the candidates you know for sure will further bastardize your society. Unless of course you believe you are animals that don’t deserve a decent society like most white countries.

Why can’t you go to Unilag or Harvard university and start grooming a leader with first class or summa cum laude since Nigeria as of now need the best of the best of the best.

Na wa for una, a special breed indeed.

There is a saying, that a people get the leaders they deserve. That is very true with Nigerians.

Anything that peppers France is music to my ears. The French are no friends of Nigeria

The same Dino will soon defect to APC and call Buhari the best President ever in the history of man!

There's something about Ganduje that makes me like him. I don't know what it is, but he reminds me a lot of Babangida. Always smilling, but quite devious and ruthless.

FakeUnity:
To work together for yoruba presidency? Una dey think say others na foools while una get sense abi? Ewedus must continue shouting 'sai baba' oh.

Who said anything about Yoruba presidency? I am not Edo not Yoruba.
Please try and reason properly. We have common interests at the moment across the south. Stopping Open grazing, fiscal restructuring and pushing for a southern president in 2023. On these we can be united. When it come to 2023 all zones can compete against each other for the presidency. We need to start learning the art of grand strategy and not thinking our hearts all the time. There are times you need to align with people and other times you can be competing against the same people. No perm friend, no perm enemy only perm interests.

FakeUnity:
Please, one very important question.

Are yorubas part of the south? I thought they broke out from Southern nigeria after their 'victory' at the 2015 polls?
When were they re-admitted back into the southern forum? I remember they claimed to be 'west' and they have left the south. The 2015 post election threads are still here on NL ,(If myddd never dele⁶te am to save face for him tribe).

My retentive memory wan shatter tables.


Cc: seunmsg, legendhero.

The past is the past. There is no permanent friend or permanent enemy only permanent interests. Right now it's in the interests of the SE, SW and SS to work together, in the face of a Fulani expansionist threat.

They should invite Ortom of Benue. Benue is practically a southern state now

Emergingnation:
I make help me tell them, Nigeria should allow Biafra to go!

Self determination is a right...

Fully agree it's not by force. There are many landlocked nations in the world that are doing fine. They should be allowed to go so we can all rest.

NGpatriot:
Your so-called enemy and oppressor and the entity you want freedom from are all in Abuja, but you refuse to go to Abuja, you prefer to punish your own people in the SE, you prefer to make your own people suffer economic hardship i the SE, you prefer to intimidate and bully your own people to follow your satanic and lunatic orders, you prefer to slaughter and behead your own people in the SE.

I've never seen this kind of freedom fighting and agitation in my life.

This is the on and only freedom fighting where you punish your own people and make them suffer instead of your enemy.

You haven't killed any Hausa Fulani, but you kill and laughter your own people, you burn down and destroy their businesses while Hausa Fulani just dey go on about his business..


How do you explain this lunacy and insanity?

You have said it all. This is the most idiotic 'freedom struggle' in history. I

Actually I now think power should stay in the North. The longer the North are in charge, the more United the South will become. If another Fulani takes over in 2023, Iam confident there will be no Nigeria by 2027

I have simply NEVER seen such stupidity as that being carried out by IPOB. Who are they harming by all these 'sit at home' protests? Is Buhari in the least bit bothered? No!. They are only harming there own people's business and childrens education. Sit at home protest has a zero preasure effect on the FG.
I thought Igbo's were supposed to be smart people?

I really don't like Aisha. She is the worst kind of hypocrite. At least Patience and Turai Yaradua did not pretrend to be saints or 'women of the masses' they were for their own interests and they let everybody know it. Aisha is as bad as them, but she tries to pretend she's not. I beg make the woman go sit down for Dubai and employ a few our unemployed boys to be taking care of her in 'De ozza room'

Buckeyemedia1:
More accountable to who, how much IGR was realized by your state for the last 5 years, what was it spent on, can you tell me? Even if I gave you 3 months to provide evidence you wouldn’t? Your jargon response just reiterated my point you think all these your chasing shadows is hurting President Buhari?

Chasing shadows mocking yourselves? The States shouting we want to go it alone are the states in which the Federal Government has invested heavily in the past? Rivers & Lagos State most especially, NDDC just dashed their former HQ to Rivers State, What Federal infrastructures has the Federal Government got in your State’s capital city?

Selfish elements, what most of you ignorant peeps don’t know is that 85% stays with the state, 50% State, 35% Local Government, remainder 15% FG, What is the noise about, isn’t Nigeria one country?, don’t we have southern Nigerians that school, live & work in the North?, Lagos Kano, Kaduna Lagos are sold out flights everyday.

Stop crying. This is how a federal system is supposed to work. There is no honour in being parasites, from generation to generation.

Ibkhaleel001:
LET US VOMIT OUT THE SOUTHERN HOOK, LINE AND SINKER


Northern Nigeria has more graduates and Professors than South Africa. The real problem is not as Southerners paint it and you echo it like empty halls. 


Practically, millions of Northerners are either unemployed, misemployed, or underemployed. Our problem is our chances are blocked and our resources dominated by Southerners who paint the wrong picture for fools to believe them.


75% of  government spending is connered by Southerners via the domination of salary earning, contracts, projects, bail outs and other interventions. Trade and industries are dominated by Southerners who have easy access to multi billion credit facilities courtesy their domination of state financial structure and instruments and institutions. 


Every ministry is dominated by them. All our markets are monopolized by them due to their control of capital that enable them to finance business and take more risk due to ease of acces to money. They conrol their markets by regular disruptuons of our businesses officially and by direct frequent violence unofficially. Their control of and easy access to liquidity enable them to be more enerprising business wise. They buy our goods cheap and sell theirs exorbitantly.


To preserve the exploitative status quo they spread false verson of the reality. They centralize oil as the main source of wealth so that our attention will be far away from other sources of wealth they dominate.

Oil is less than 10% of  Nigeria's GDP. They tell us we are the parasite and we are lazy and we are uneducated to instil a sense of guilt, self hate and inadequacy in us. We swallow all these falsehood uncritcally because we made our source of daily information their media and books. They over concentrate on our weaknesses and ignore almost completely their own weaknesses. An average Southerner having mild cold will almost by default blame it on Northerners and will not lack northerners who "speak the truth" to agree with him.


How can uneducated people have multitude of unemployed graduates? How can lazy people be producig the food of the nation? Why do millions of Southerners troop to the poor parasitic North and refuse leave? The south said so and it is?


What we need is a  political economic solution. We must take control of our local markets, our institutions and our businesses in their land must be given due attention and protection and any act of disruption by way of constant destruction must be paid back in due measure without listening to their victimship outcries. They fear separation more than us because their weak economic foundation, especially the west entirely dependent on controlling  government resources.


We must ask and take our fair share of every government employment at whatever cost. No people has ever prospered when their resources, oppurtunities and chances are blocked and dominated by others.  Our constant preachment of peace must stop: justice and and equity must be our new slagon. 


The real problem is believing in the propaganda of the enemies which saps our resourcefulness and infuse our senses with feelings of backwardness that really do not exist, or are caused by false perception. The greatest defeat one can suffer is to see oneself as projected by one's enemies. 


Almajiri is system suffocated by lack of finance. Poverty is a direct result of economic domination and exclusion. Degrees are not unavailable. Marrying four wives will not stop as it is never a problem but a great social system. Once we assert control on what is rightly ours, that self concious timidity will evaporate and be replaced by confidence and bold enterprise. Up to the Seventies we were the richest people in Africa. As the central government grows and  takes control of resources our wealth progressively dwindles. As the southerners intensify drums of hate and aggression we draw back to give peace, that is never forthcoming, a chance.


Try asking for propotionate representation in all government employment in all institutions and at all levels, they will cry out about mediocrity supplanting merit as if those half literates southerners dominating the place are Einstein incanates. Or they will blackmail you with Islamization.


Try treating their traders in our markets as they treat ours and they will cry xenophobia as if the regular denial of market space, heavy taxation, constant disruption of business and officially sanctioned harrassment of our traders in their land does not exist.


Try replacing Southern union leaders and foreign sponsored NGOs operating in the North with our own people and they will start wailing about marginalization.


Well, their era of dominance and false propaganda is coming to an end with the coming of age of young northerners who could no longer accept marginalization because of blackmail or threat. These new bold Northern youth have seen how southerners cowered when asked to leave the North two years ago. Their cries for secession are empty ruse. 


We will be better off without them and they will definitely be worse off without us. They know we lack nothing, while their millions selling substandard, fake good, drugs and inrdinately high interest bank loans fleecing the north and feeding on cheap food and services will have nothing on returning back home. Their franchise firms and industries will lose over 100 million costumers overnight which is more than their home market demand. 


Soon we will ask for equity or call it quit. We know who we are and we know our strength.

Exactly the level of reasoning I would expect from a product of quota system.
You and all your generations are blood sucking PARASITES. When Northern states top the lists for IGR, then you can come and talk, till then please be quiet as you have nothing sensible to say.

I have always said that its better some people keep quiet and let people think they are brainless, than to open their mouths and remove all doubt.
We are operating a FEDERAL system of govt. In a FEDERAL system of govt, the states are autonomous and revenue generated in a state belongs to that state. The practice of bringing all the revenue into a central account is what happens in a UNITARIY system of govt, like the UK. We have been operating a federal system wrong for many decades and that is why underdevelopment is rampant. Why would a Northern governor work hard to improve his states IGR, when he can just relax and get a share of the IGR raised in other states. its obscene.
Fiscal restructuring has arrived and there's nothing the North can do about it. If Kogi want to continue sharing their IGR with Kano, that is up to them. The rest of us will follow Lagos and Rivers.

I can't see Osinbajo contesting against Tinubu. The only way he'll throw is has in the ring is if Tinubu withdraws, and the only way that will happen is if Buhari and the ACP big wigs conspire to thwart his ambition, the same way OBJ did to IBB in 2007.

This just goes to show that the current cattle industry is not fit for purpose. New thinking, new ideas and new players are needed to come in and bring this industry into the 21st century. There is no reason in the world, why private individuals across the south can't set up ranches and rear cows using modern techniques. We already do it with chickens and pigs. The Fulani can keep their nomadic practices up north

See quota system thinking. See parasitic ideologies at work. We run a FEDERAL system not a UNITARY system. In a federal system the states are autonomous, and all revenue raised in the state belongs to it. Just imagine Iam running a business in Edo state, I buy supplies and pay VAT on them, why should a part of that VAT end up in Gombe? Since 1914 these parasites have been sucking the South dry.

Wike and Akeredolu are 2 southern governors that are given Buhari and his gang sleepless nights. May the almighty continue to protect them.

These are the useless Federal agencies that are just conduits for corruption. Can anybody name one single thing this so called biotechnology agency has produced? You could scrap over half of the federal agencies and nobody would notice the difference.

Omoluabi1stborn:
Lol.

Wrong.stats, Osun, Benue, Edo can't have a higher GDP than Anambra.
Even cross river

What do you know about the Economy of Edo state?

I think it's time for the Army to come and do another 'Python dance' in the SE to reset those IPOB brains back to default factory settings.

perambulator:
I am telling you what the law is. We know they dont follow it in real life the point is to tell you that by law all these traditional rulers are symbolic and have no legal power. As with most things Nigeria, we go about our daily lives ignoring the law and the law turns a blind eye until the day you fall foul of the authorities and the authorities decide to enforce the law. Go and ask Former Emir Sanusi. none of them is bigger than Emir of kano!!!!

If you check on Youtube, you'll find a video where the former kano gov, Rimi, talks about how little the power the Emir of Kano has, and how he can be removed easily. Sanusi's dad was removed. Please try and find any similar video by an Edo governor. if you can.

perambulator:
I understand what you are saying. i am telling you the law. Debating a hypothetical is pointless until the scenario presents itself...all i can tell you is the law. The same people who are saying it cant happen were saying same about Sultan of Sokoto and Emir of kano. because it happened now you will rubbish Northern kingdoms But when I was growing up and learning about nigerian kings, these were the 1st class Kings of Nigeria. The Oba of benin is no bigger than the Sultan of Sokoto, it was almost impossible to envisage the Sultan being removed or the Emir of Kano being banished. What we pray is that Obas do not overstep so we dont find out that the King has no clothes!!!

My guy, the Emirs and even the Sultan in the North are simply not comparable with the first rate southern monarchs like the Oba of Benin, Oni of Ife.... With the exception of the Sheau of Borno, most of the current northern stools are products of Dan Fodio's Jihad, barley 200 years old. The first rate southern stools like the Benin monarch is is over 700 years old, deeply intertwined with the culture of the people. They never born the governor that will try and mess with these institutions. When Lucky Igbinedion was Edo governor did fear let him chance the Oba, even though his father and the Oba were at loggerheads. He knew his limits.
When the current Oba spoke on the issue of Benin Bronze's did Obaseki not back down. Please listen to Edo people when we tell you the Oba is SUPREME in Edo land, regardless of what the laws of Nigeria might say.

perambulator:
Nigeria is a funny country. Behind the king is a picture of the current governor (by law his boss). By law every King needs permission of the local govt chairman before he can leave his Kingdom. A local govt chairman is a boy to a governor, A governor can dethrone a King and here is a Governor (of another state) bowing down before a King under the guise of upholding tradition.


who are we fooling? We really have messed ourselves up.

All those are story story. If you REALLY think a local government chairman can stop the Oba of Benin, Oni of Ife, Olu of Warri, Alafin of Oyo, Obi of Onitsha from travelling, then I really want some of what you are smoking

DubaiLandLord:
Not only in the North, even here in the South West.

I kid you not.

My brother it the same ALL OVER Nigeria. Show me one state where all the public schools are in good condition. Same thing with the hospitals.

DropsMic:
BLACKS HAVE NO FUCKING BUSINESS RUNNING THEIR OUR COUNTRIES..

This is just the pure undiluted truth.

I have said it, and will continue to say it, the ONLY hope for the blackman is recolonisation for another 150 years. We simply do not have the moral status or humanity to effectively govern ourselves.

In Europe, Japan, China, the US....you would not rear animals in those conditions. Check out any ranch in the west, the animals are in better conditions than that school. The conditions in that school, are the same all over the country. From Sokoto to Sapple you will the see the same thing. We are simply not civilised