₦airaland Forum

asuustrike1:
Our daily manna all night program holds this Friday 25/1/2019 at TBS Lagos, the crowd there alone is more than what you saw. MFM, Redeem have similar crowd during their programs

People come from different states.

Moreover, they come there to pray and were not pulled there by the man. Moreover, months of marketing through social media and bills and promises of financial prosperity and deliverances are what pull people and not the daily manna man.

kennygee:
Come to Redemption camp during August Convention Sir.

One state?

It's a lie. No religious leader can pull that mammoth crowd in one state.

PMB is the man of the people.

4+4.

Martinez19:
Lest I forget, I opened a similar thread.


when a christian has decided to go down the irrational path, there is nothing you can do.

It is not irrational.

It is the Christians who make it appear irrational.

I am a believer in God and even though I can't prove the existence of God to you as easily as I would the existence of concrete things like TVs, I can show God to you.

kingemzy5:
If obasanjo is an agbaya.. Your father and your whole household can spend 40days 40nights washing his feet

Wash whose feet?

The day I saw him at the airport some years back, I was not even moved.

Tufiakwa.

The only man (aside my father) whose presence would move me tremendously is Professor Wole Soyinka.

Who has the time or love for an agbaya osi.

We will resist the attempt of Olesegun Obasango to force Adimeru Atiku on us.

Never again!!!

4+4

Olesegun Obasango is just an agbaya.

Just because he lost political relevance under Baba, he decided that the same Atiku he painted black in his book is now who Nigerians need.

Tufiakwa!!

bedspread:
[s][/s] You are the one to have it or Deal with it not me! The Effects of Pmb has taken roots in your home.... you will have it as in full as the Nation has had it!

A man tells you I will not "Fail the Nation again in 2019"
And a human being follows such!
Take it in Full bro

Shebi your name is bedspread. You have bed to sleep on under Baba.

By the time Atiku and his gang of looters are through with your destiny, your name will change to matspread because by then, you will not even be able to afford a proper bed.

bedspread:
[s][/s]It is No! It is Nullified totally ..
Follow Him to Daura Nd have him fully there

Buhari till 2023.

Deal with it!!!

Why did you even run away from the country in the first place? I know you will lie that it was Buhari that made you run away but I know that it was during PDP's era of mismanagement that you ran away from the country.

bedspread:
[s][/s]u hv no point!!! And a Pointless prayer has no impact!

Am soo BLESSED.... Neither am I based in Nigeria... but it pains me to see what is Happening in my Country...

Since you call for a Pmb continuation, A Pmb Continuation Effect Covers you and your DECENDANTS fully ..

Yes, PMB's continuation is the only way especially when PMB's toughest contender is a known thief.

We must protect our country from looters who have gathered again to destroy our country.

bedspread:
[s][/s]
It cannot Stand.... Neither can it come to Pass...

I Did not call for Atiku! I called for a New Hand! Any of them but Pmb...

Atiku has not been President so u cannot judge him with now...

You Cannot Compare Obasanjo/ Atiku Governance to the Mishap in Governance now..


I Better Have an Obasanjo/Atiku with all JOY

You Have Pmb handiwork in Full Measure

Atiku has not been president my foot!!!

So, the privatization he chaired did not affect us abi? The revenue inflow to his university did not affect us abi? So, he has to be president before we can judge his misappropriation abi?

You must be drunk.

That prayer stands!!! In fact, may you and your family be neglected the way Obasanjo and Atiku neglected the ex workers of the defunct Nigerian Airways who were neglected for 15 years without any benefits.

echodrum:
You shook your head for line one of my statements. But could not react to other things I listed to you. Exactly why the mentally challenged Buhari refused to come for a debate.
He has been embarrassing himself and APC countinouslly in the public.
It is also embarrassing to see some educated ones like you following one of the most uneducated leader such as Buhari who can not perform.

What stopped Atiku from going on with the debate?

You people must be blaming blamers. You blame everyone else for your misfortune.

So because Buhari did not come, Atiku too must decide not to debate?

Didn't Buhari debate in the absence of GEJ in 2011?

bedspread:
[s][/s]It will Stand....Neither will it come to pass...

Nigeria have not had Nigerians dealing depression like it is in this period of Governance.....

Beggars and Begging has Increased Increasingly at all point... Online, of line...

Its Heartlessness to call for Pmb continuing having seen the ills in Governance in the past few years..

It got to point when General Danjuma had to ask his people to take up weapons to defend themselves as the Military were confusing..

My Prayer for u is that may The Acts of Pmb witnessed in Nigeria Directly and Indirectly Dwell on you and your Family forever... Amen

May the acts of Atiku as VP from 1999-2007 dwell on you and your family forever. May your destinies be handled the very same way Atiku handled privatization when he was Vice President, amen.

May your family fortune be stolen and diverted into running personal investments as Atiku did while he was in government, amen. (this would not have any effect as long as Atiku did not steal or misappropriate funds).

In short, may yours and the lives of members of your family be run the way Obasanjo and Atiku ran Nigeria, amen.

Boys dey vex to get this money o.

Well, I blame the society. The society is to blame for the greed and lack of patience destroying our youth population.

Even the church has joined. They fire up the greed in our youths and push them into crime just so they can show off by coming out to donate huge money.

A morally bankrupt society has no future. May God help us.

Ziggylady:
You are just going round in circles like a dog chasing flies from its tail..like i said earlier,there is nothing in your posts that suggests your use your heads better than anyone..

It is just the normal vituperations and delusions of grandeur you are known for which is always at play when you post..

You know nothing about politics and less about who is savvy politically..You are just a little up-start overwhelmed at the succes of the only political alliance which worked in your favour in 2015 since Nigeria got her independence in 1960.

EOD!

Sorry, Ziggy

Why are you so angry?

The truth hurts, remember? I must have written the truth for you to be so furious.

Anyway, I am tired now. I have to face the day's work ASAP.

See you later. Take care of yourself.

They will support Kemi now o.

But when she is against their pastors or celebs, they call her names.

Hypocrites everywhere!!!

bedspread:
Any If the Candidates I put there will do a Far Better Job than what we have now!!
No Apologies for that!

None of them can do a better job than Buhari.

Buhari is the best president we have had. Baba has pulled us out of recession and the economy has begun to witness steady growth.

Even a combination of OBJ, Atiku and GEJ would not have been able to pull Nigeria out of a horrible recession without throwing us into a depression.

Buhari till 2023.

Deal with it!!!

Ziggylady:
Everyone of your sons says Yorubas are delusional chest-beaters adept at making loud hollow noises that lacks substance.Every tribe in Nigeria knows that too

You are in no position to say who voting should favour because apart from the fact you are not consequential in APC.,.the decision-makers in APC has ceded it to yorubas..

Saying no one gets overwhelming support from my region shows how much of an unthinking personality most of you are...you heard that from your fellow yorubas and just decides to pandy it around not minding how silly you sound..

I can see that Awolowo and Olu Falae most of supported overwhelmingly in 1979 and 1999 became Presidents

Your English is barely readable.

Anyway, I have seen worse, so I should manage.

You are still projecting your image onto us, my dear

For heaven's sake, we all know the tribe that fits the bill delusional chestbeaters

Why are we having this back and forth over something so fitting of your region?

Anyway, the fact remains that when your region latches on the idea that an election is a tribal war, they always lose.

And this became very obvious at the formation of APC. Your region overwhelmingly decided that APC was a Muslim and Northern Party. PDP witnessed a resurgence in your eyes and in spite of the party's colossal failings, you began to blindly take it as a Christian and Southern Party. Since then, every election became a tribal war.

And sadly, you have lost all the wars since then, starting from the 2015 presidential election loss to the Ekiti election and the Osun election.

bedspread:
[s][/s]

You Right my Bro...

I am Desprate to see a NIGERIA that works!

I am So Desprate to see and Have a NIGERIA that is for Nigerians and not for a section of Nigeria..

I am Desprate to see A NIGERIA that Sacks and Deals with Mediocrity in any post of Leadership....

I am Heavily Desprate to see a NIGERIA that Fights and goes all out to secure its Citizens

I am DESPRATE to see a NIGERIA that gives a sense of Direction and Purpose...


That NIGERIA will be made Next Month!

Why did you put Atiku on the list then??

tsephanyah:
If we should take Obasanjo's words to be true then Atiku is a thief with no morals and one of the most corrupt political office holder in the world: is that correct?

Very correct, my dear.

Ziggylady:
There is nothing in your post that suggests you are using your heads pal,not now or ever....is it the childish talk of 'everyone knows blablabla??..who are the everyone if i may ask?.

...You just formed an alliance with the north successfully in 2015 while Igbos had way before you via Tafawa Balewa/Nnamdi Azikiwe,Shagari/Ekwueme and you are making empty noises

Please stop this crap talk of Igbos having a better chance to produce the Presidency in APC than PDP...apart from the fact you are lying through your teeth,did we appoint you as our advocate?..as we speak your people have perfected sinister strategies for themselves in 2023 so what are you talking about?

Everyone knows the tribe that you described earlier. Even one of your sons said Igbo was the most foolish tribe in the world.

2023, Atiku will want second term. Don't expect APC to counter him with an Igbo man. They would counter him with another Northerner. And like that the Northern hegemony continues.

Zoning should favor Igbo by 2023 if Buhari completes the Northern period of 8 years. But if you vote Atiku, that is another 8 years because I am very certain he will want second term.

All these is provided Atiku wins. But Atiku cannot win. No one gets overwhelming support from your region and wins. They always lose and that is another evidence of your horrible sense of judgement.

echodrum:
Yes, even okonjo Iwela had warned that if nothing was done to the economy that the Nigeria economy may head to recession.
APC lead by Buhari knew about all these and decided to make a change
1. To creat millions of jobs instead we lost millions of jobs
2. To make 1 naira to 1 dollar instead 1 dollar is equal 355 naira
3. To decimate Boko Haram in few months instead Boko Haram is decimating our soldiers
4 minister of power " power is not a rocket science" he would under 6 months fix power problem yet electricity is still a disaster in Nigeria after 3.5 years.

The fact is that Buhari is incompetent, an Illitrate, mentally incapacitated, and a sadists. Nothing about him is funny at all. He is a shame to the country. He promised to fight corruption Instead he is welcoming all corrupted learders to join his party.

Countless of innocent citizens are being killed on weekly and monthly bases, your super Sadists and incompetent president can not control and protect innocent life under his watch.

It is so bad that millions of Nigerians have decided to vote for a goat than to vote for Buhari. Even the current president of USA called him a lifeless one....Just do the maths.

Smh...

We are talking about recession, you are talking about an Okonja Iweala who led us into this mess with her lack of foresight. Obasanjo knew about her lack of foresight and merely used her to ease foreign debts. As at 2014, they were already borrowing money to pay salaries.

And you all want to blame Buhari for recession.

Nonsense!!!

Your Atiku does not even have a recovery plan. The thief says he would risk inflation to bring in investors (his friends and family).

Yes, your savior, Atiku, will do just that. He will woo investors and sell everything rather than reestablishing them. Very lazy man. He might even sell us. Then from inflation, we would slip into hyperinflation and the naira would be 10,000naira to 1 dollar. Atiku would sell NNPC to proxies and this time, he would need not launder money. He is president, he would just increase revenue inflow to his businesses.

You people should continue getting fooled. A man who has shown so many times that he has nothing to offer.

Ziggylady:
You yorubas and empty noise/delusions of grandeur has no part two ,so to be 'consequential' we have to vote buhari?....most of you think Nigeria got her independence in 2015 with the way you carry this your so-called north/sw alliance

Circus clowns has got nothing on you guys.

Every tribe in Nigeria knows the particular tribe that has the highlighted characteristics. Stop projecting your behaviors onto us.

To be consequential, you have to start using your heads and not emotions.

In politics, there are no permanent friends or enemies but you people think APC are your permanent enemies and PDP your permanent friends even though PDP did nothing for you for 16 years. Not once did they consider one of your sons for VP until now. PDP even crushed the move for restructuring which has become the high point of your clamoring today.

Use your heads. The only party where credible and balanced internal politics is guaranteed is APC and not PDP.

If Atiku wins, that is another long 8 years for the North. Igbos have a better chance of producing president in APC than in PDP.

Pekele007:
Who is the YOU PEOPLE

The same YOU PEOPLE that gave Buhari chieftaincy title in the East?

Oh, please, how is giving chieftaincy title the same as the one we are discussing here


You people were so desperate to keep GEJ there that you suddenly remembered that one of his names is Azikwe.

Pekele007:
There is no need putting it in quote cos he is never an Igbo man. Stop this mischievous attitude .

That you have a short memory does not mean the rest of us have

When you people were trying so hard to package GEJ as an Igbo man in 2015, you didn't know he was not Igbo. You even started calling him Ebele Azikwe
Many suddenly remembered that he bears Azikwe.

I have not forgotten o. That was why I put the Igbo in quote.

Your kinsmen were the mischievous ones, always trying to turn everything into a tribal war.

echodrum:
Is iether you are being childish or you just don't understand things.
I asked you who you are supporting and why you are supporting him or her?
I'm not a fool and I understand logic. Never have I said to you that because someone is a successful business man that it means that the person would always make a good president. But then Just because Hoover did not make a good president as a successful business man does not imply that all business people can not make a good learnership.
Nigeria was not in recession when Buhari took over the Mantle. He actually contributed to the recession which lead to many job lost.
Barrack Obama inherited economy recession from Bush but he stared the country out of recession with few years of his first tenor.
Stop being tribalistic and selfish. Patriotism is the only instrument that can save Nigeria..

Many of you do not understand how the economy works, that is why you always end up making blanket statements.

Recessions don't just happen, neither do they just end.

That Nigeria officially slipped into recession under Buhari does not mean Buhari caused it. Slump in oil price started under GEJ but the administration's poor economic management and lack of foresight coupled with the fact that the economy was not diversified to handle the slump in oil price were the contributory factors to the recession. As at middle of 2014, months before Buhari became president, naira had lost the fifth of its value against the dollar. Experts such as Soludo and Sanusi even predicted the recession saying that it wouldn't matter who won the presidential election.

Just as recession don't just start all of a sudden, they don't just end suddenly. They may end officially but recovery may take years, as was the case with the Obama administration. As a matter of fact, the economy of the United States is still recovering under Trump.

As for who I am supporting. Who else but Buhari. A man who is tested and trusted. A man who inherited a crisis that threw the country into a recession and managed the crisis well and pulled us officially out of the recession. In spite of depending largely on oil exportation coupled with the malaise of oil pipeline vandalism and pervasive corruption, he was able to pull us out of a terrible recession that struck major oil producing countries like Venezuela, Iran, Iraq and Russia.

Bro, imagine it was a compulsive thief like Atiku that presided over Nigeria during the recession. We would certainly have been worse off than Venezuela.

Pekele007:
Jonathan is suddenly an Igbo.

wonders shall never end

I am sure you are not blind. You can see that I put the Igbo in quote.

echodrum:
Maybe you thought I'm not good at history that's why you referred me to Herbert Hoover. But now that I gave you the reason why he was a bad leader even though he was a businessman you called it an excuse. Bad argument.
Of course there is no correlation and I have never said so either. But what I said is that you give people chances based on thier track records. Buhari is a failure and I don't know how you want me to put it before you understand.
Let me ask you. Who are you canvassing for?
If your answer is Buhari. Can you give me reasons why we should vote for him?

Oga, you didn't know about Hoover. Stop lying.

If you did, you would not join others to promote a better Atiku leadership on the basis of him being a successful businessman.

If you knew about Hoover, you would not be saying that Atiku would provide jobs or revitalize the economy merely because he is a successful businessman as if the likes of Hoover or even Trump was/is not a successful businessman.

No one who knew about Hoover would think there is a solid correlation between success in business and success in political governance. Success is relative. And the case of Hoover is an evidence. He was a creator of jobs but when he assumed leadership of the country, many were thrown out of their jobs.

You say Buhari is a failure but from all indication, he managed Nigeria through a terrible recession, even though just like Hoover, he inherited the mess.

If Hoover, whose authority in the mining industry was gargantuan, could not think up economic policies to counter and considerably manage the dwindling fortune of his country, what makes you sure Atiku has the competence to steer the country toward economic prosperity?

You say he is a successful businessman, but that counts for nothing. Hoover's case is an example.

paiz:
2011 Jonathan missed Debate and he won the election, 2015 Buhari missed the debate and he won the election.
Now 2019 Buhari wanted to use that logic never knew Atiku is a guy man.

He will still lose.

Buhari till 2023.

princfred:
Check am well na, will that pay? These Nigerian pastors need the hustle to pay big time here.

Exactly.

These gods of men are nothing but businessmen perverting the gospel for pecuniary gains.

echodrum:
Herbert Hoover inherited bad economy policies made by Calvin Coolidge his predecessor which lead the country into the great depression. But guess what? Even though he was not the one who initiated the ecommic depression he was widely blamed for his inability to revive the economy and because of that he only got one TERM 1929 - 1933.
Okay now. We voted in Buhari because we saw that Jonathan Government was leading us to economic diserster and what has Buhari administration did? His incompetency allowed the country into depression which we are still battling right now. So what is your argument? You want us to give him another 4 years to do what?

Again you don't have to be a president first in other to be voted for into the office of the president. That is why it done through campaign and voting and not Interview.
The only way voters can assess a potential leader is by looking at his track records which I believe Atikus has shown to have a good one.

Oga, don't play smart here.

You said Atiku would make a better president than Buhari simply because he is a successful businessman.

I gave you the Hoover example to show that there is no solid correlation between success in business and success in political leadership. Case closed. You have begun to make excuses for an Atiku presidency that has not even been actualized.

Anyway, if you have any other evidence of a better Atiku leadership, present it.

ehissi:
A pastor that will encourage you to forsake in totality the gathering of the brethren.

A pastor that said salavation through Jesus Christ is not the only way to make heaven.....

You need help bro......

Gathering of which brethren?

The Bible says whatever would make you sin should be cut off.

To grow spiritually, one needs to cut oneself from the gathering of hypocrites.

Moreover, the gathering of brethren does not necessarily have to happen in a church building or even on Sundays.

Our meeting on Nairaland or on social media is a gathering. The Bible says where two or three are gathered in His name, He is there with the gatherers.

So even if you gather in a megachurch, if you gather in the name of tithes and offering or to show off your latest shoes or clothes or to catch a beautiful usher, you are gathering in vain.

Pekele007:
No need reading your long senseless epistles.


The bottom line is that Igbos aren't voting Buhari because Buhari is too useless, dull, sick, senile and intellectually deficient to rule Nigerians.


If you are in pains, take the route of Awolowo.

Did you vote for him in 2015?

We saw the ridiculous disparity in votes but in spite of that, Buhari still defeated your "Igbo" son.

With the way you play hate politics, you will continue to remain inconsequential.