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Very senseless.

It is not all job that demands that you wear suit and tie.

If he wants to look different from the typical conductor, a clean short sleeve shirt and a pair of 3 quarters shorts is OK. The priority should be cleanliness. If you want to wear suit and tie, look for white collar jobs.

This is why I laugh at those marketers who wear suit and tie. You wear suit and tie and start walking to and fro under the hot sun. Do you want to kill yourself with dehydration?

Yesterday, I checked my favorite channels but there was nothing interesting showing. So, I decided to see this BBN that draws so much attention.

Just 5 minutes, and I was already bored. I dozed off and woke up and the scene was still the same. And to make matters worse, there were too many foreign accents going on and on to even save the boredom of this dead show.

How come this show gets so much hype?

robosky02:
Honestly

Cos Rohr is juSt gambling with us imgine the interview

Very disgusting.

I (personally) have forgiven you. Although, I keep wondering what got into you.

Moreover, you are always so jittery. And it was just Madagascar.

Better get your acts right. Nigerians forgive, but they don't forget easily. Go and ask Aiyegbeni and Calamitious Yobo.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Zimbabwe, Cameroon, Nigeria in this year's AFCON in Egypt(though Cameroon FA later resolved it) Even Ghana had similar issues in the 2014 world cup in Brazil.
Do you see a pattern here? Only in Africa.

You are right. But we are big brothers to these countries. For Christ's sake, aside the home based players, every other player should have no problem playing first and winning the coveted trophy.

After all, when they won in 2013, they were spoilt with cash from every angle. Our players do not even donate these bonuses for the development of grassroot football. They come here for the money and return to their clubs in Europe or Asia.

NFF should cancel match bonuses, except for home-based players. Anyone who does not want to play should reject invitation.

I am sure this would help our football to return to what it was in the 80s and early 90s.

robosky02:
A deputant ranked well over 100 at FIFA beating africas 3rd best
This is not a joke
Amunike should start warming up

You are right, bro.

Amuneke should be given the job and the same freedom Rohr enjoyed. He would do a better job than this Rohr.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Ogbeni you didn't answer my question. Just mention two countries that doesn't pay match bonus to their players (national team)....

If you cannot tell me,, then I'm done with you concerning this matter.

My question stands first.

Are we the only team owed?

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
They play hard because their country football governing body doesn't owe them. It's not about being wealthy. Oga dis money dey 4 Nff budget, one or two person just wan chop d money alone.

If Nigeria or NFF come out to declare that due to poor export of crude oil, we're bankrupt. We can no longer afford to sponsor our citizens/athletics, players to international tournament like, IAAF DIAMOND LEAGUE, FIBA, OLYMPICS, FIFA WORLD CUP, AFCON, FIFA CLUB WORLD CUP amongst others, then these groups of players won't complain about match bonus/money.
Not when a large sum of money were released by the ministry of sports, then two or three fat bellied men in office receiving fresh AC, who doesn't know what it takes to play football for 90minz under hot sun hijack all the money under the canopy of corruption.

Then you come online to question the players patriotism, are you alright @ all?

You and the Super Eagles are not alright.

Were they owed money aside match bonuses?

If I were the NFF executive council chair, I would cancel match bonuses for the Super Eagles as well. Anyone who doesn't want to play should reject invitation.

Even with match bonuses, they still play like mediocre secondary school two aside teams.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Mention any one or two national team that is a member of FIFA that doesn't pay match bonus to her players!?? if you cannot, then keep mute please.

First of all, match bonus is not a FIFA rule. Any country's federation can decide to or not to pay match bonuses. This was proven when NFF canceled match bonuses for age grade national teams, including the Falcons and resolved only to pay camp allowances.

Second, the issue is not whether match bonuses should be paid but whether players can't represent their countries without thinking about match bonuses as some incentives.

Which culminate into my question: are we the only team that gets owed match bonuses?

Remember match bonuses are what they are. They are bonuses, not main wages.

davibid:
Nonesense!

What do they expect him to do with the average players we have. If I may ask, how many of the Super Eagles play regular football in their respective clubs in the diaspora? I mean first team players in their clubs and If any it’s not up to five. Mikel and his likes that are supposed to be cheering the team from the stands is on the field contributing absolutely nothing to the team.

Whenever you see Ndidi play you’ll see why clubs like Mautd and Atletico are coming for him. By the way despite the mediocre players we have how do you expect them to perform when you’re owing from coaching staff to all the players.

Please stop complaining and make do with what we have.

Meanwhile I hope they’ve arrested Pinnick

This is not a matter of average players. What players does Madagascar have? A good coach can make something extraordinary out of a team of average players.

But Rohr does not appear committed at all. And there is this inferiority complex or defeatist stance he has. And it is like he is not in charge of his team. Reminds me of secondary school. In our school team, the coach will just come and be asking "Who wants to play today". Then when the match has begun, you will see players on the bench telling him, "Coach, Timi is tired. Let me enter for him." And our coach will just do follow follow like a zombie.

I am sure that that is the sort of coach Rohr is.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
You're dead wrong. The problem is not about patriotism or not. You're not more patriotic than Ahmed Musa or Assisat Oshola . The koko be say the FIFA paid millions of pounds to the NFF 4 d participation of Nigeria women team in the on-going world cup in France. Yet Nff no wan give the players one kobo. Who told you they didn't protest? people that refused to leave d team's hotel after they crashed out against Germany!

The same happened with the Flying Eagle @ the Under 20 world cup in Poland.

Why is it always Nigeria or maybe sometimes Ghana? Are they the only ones being owed? The other sports don't even get as much motivation but they go out there and put in a lot of efforts. If I were the NFF chairman, I would not even be motivated to pay bonuses for drab wins against Guinea and Burundi. What is the assurance that other teams like Mali and Ivory Coast have had their players totally settled?


Why motivation is good, platform is also good. When you play for your country, you harness platforms to sell yourself to bigger and better clubs. So, they are benefiting from wearing the SE jersey as well.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Oga how much did NFF pay u.. You're just vomiting trash. There's what we call match bonus for every match, the price of bonus depends on whether you win, draw or lose. It's credited in their account immediately after the match. Even in ordinary friendly match, they're paid appearance bonus.

Even the THREE LIONS OF ENGLAND are paid match day bonus. SE money was released through the ministry of sports. But the incompetent and corrupt NFF president seems to be playing politics with the only thing that unite us.

Many of you don't even know what shame these Super Eagles bring to Africa with the way they comport themselves. Are they the only ones being owed? All the Malagasy team are not even as wealthy as Mikel Obi or even Ahmed Musa but you can see how hard they play for their country.

Lamasta:
All of them in NFF should be sacked as well my God how do you expect someone to perform when you did not pay them there bonuses where will they get there motivation from?

Just match bonuses. If they fight over match bonuses, they should not even be near the team. They are more like mercenaries. They play for all of the money, even mere bonuses.

Airoflaw:
Everytime we loss d next thing is to sack coach,, which coach go understand us

Rohr has been there for over 2 years now and he doesn't seem to have a team yet. He should be sacked already.

If we meet Ghana in the round of 16, we will be bundled out of the competition bevause Rohr would still play deaf and play everyone out of position while leaving promising players on the bench. Moreover, Rohr would go into the match with his inferiority complex which always rubs off on his players.

Imagine a Super Eagles coach saying that there is no shame in losing 2-0 to Madagascar. Imagine what he would say after Ghana spanks Nigeria 4-1.

The commentator is obviously as disappointed as millions of Nigerians.

He keeps saying "There is something not right about this Nigerian team".

He is obviously right. Everything is wrong with the Super Eagles from the coach to those playing this embarrassing game.

I knew we were going nowhere with Rohr.

Under him, we lost a competitive match to South Africa for the first time. It was an embarassing 2-0 thrashing right here in Nigeria.

Now, Madagascar have got their first ever goal against the Super Eagles in 6 encounters. They even leading us 2-0.

And it is not just Rohr to blame. While others were busy planning, our players were busy squabbling over match bonuses.

I will keep asking the question: What is Mikel still doing in this team? Why don't we have a solid goalkeeper yet?

It is just about time we dared FIFA's wrath by dissolving our national teams until further notice.

How can Madagascar be thrashing us for God's sake. If these useless players and their coach don't have any shame, we Nigerians have.

This is beyond embarassing.

sirkaebs:
In that case, anybody can just allege rape as a way to get at another man, even when it never happened.

That leaves it for the court to decide. Technically. most claims are marked as allegment with or without concrete evidence. It is the police and the lawyers who then swing into action to prepare the case and present it before a magistrate.

Otherwise, in our bid to squash every allegation on the ground of no evidence, we will be emboldening rapists.

ernieboy:
so how do u punish when there is no law?

That is not the issue. The issue is that people should not be punished simply because their allegations does not come with concrete evidences, however you define it.

It is a shame that false accusers are rarely or even never convicted. But it doesn't mean that every allegations should be treated as false simply because the accuser does not have a concrete evidence. The accuser may never win in court but it would be because of a lack of evidence and not because she is lying.

ernieboy:
but lack of punishment for false accusations also emboldens liars and blackmailers to go after prominent people because whether true or false the damage to their reputation would have been done.

No one is saying that false allegations be left unpunished.

But asking that a law be created to jail rape allegations that do no have concrete evidences is bad. An allegation does not necessarily have to come with a concrete evidence. A good private detective can fish out concrete evidences for an allegation.

Evercurious:
MY DEAR MY CHILD CANT BE THAT DUMB AND LOOSE TO ALLOW AND MAN TOUCH HER INAPPROPRIATELY WITHOUT REACTING AND REPORTING SUCH ..

GET IT?

And what if she reports but no one believes her? She is then left with no choice but to suffer the pain all by herself. With the rapist emboldened, he keeps coming at her and keeps mocking her with the words "No one will believe you. I am a big man and you are just a child."

GutsOverFear:
The question everyone has failed to answer is would she have done the same thing if the man was a local roadside vulcaniser

And what is the usefulness of the question?

If one of your loved ones came home and reported to you that her boss tried to assault her, you will ask her that useless question? Be truthful with yourself. If your sister came home and accused her boss of trying to rape her, you will ask, "My sister, would you have reported this case if it were the company gateman that tried to rape you?"

While I am not judging Biodun, I must say that the way rape is trivialized in this country shows that many people do not know what rape is nor have they met a rape victim.

sirkaebs:
What is all these madness? I'm suggesting the law enforcement agency place a life imprisonment penalty for any rape allegation without concrete evidence. This defamation of character of a thing is now like a cheap joke.

So because there may be no concrete evidence, then it is defamation of character outside the court?

The absence of evidence only makes it easy to pass judgement in court. It doesn't mean the crime never happened. If I see a drunk driver hit a child but don't have concrete evidence in court. The drunk driver would go scot free. But does my lack evidence mean that the drunk driver never hit the child?

So, a law that imprisons anyone alleging rape without concrete evidence would only embolden rapists. Children who may not know the usefulness of keeping tracks (evidences) would suffer the more.

Sellfish:
CAN does not deal in unsubstantiated rumours

Just like some of us who still have sense

As a lawyer, I intend at the next NBA conference to propose to my senior colleagues that they push that offences of rape and false accusation of rape should be made offences punishable with death

You rape...You die

You falsely accuse someone of rape....You die

Click like if you fully agree with me

Click share if you feel that only rape should be punishable with death, but persons who are discovered to have falsely accused someone of rape should not be punished

Let us do a census of the mad people on nairaland

From your post, it is obvious that you have already concluded that this is a case of false allegation.

My opinion is that the bar be further raised for admittance into the law school. This should help curb the proliferation of half-baked lawyers in our society.

lonelydora:
Why did Busola speak out when her close friend accused her of her waywardness and questioned the paternity of her children?

Timi should also be questioned to find out what is happening in his marriage. Women can do/say anything when they are in tight corner.

Online Mob Action without logical thinking is what I can never support.

Nigerians ranted when Stephanie Otobo and Dorcas Fapson accused the innocent men of rape. Kemi also accused a man of God, and they later came out to say it was false.

I am not exonerating the pastor because there have been some allegations too. But let's wait to hear his own side of the story.

Let the justice have it's way.

Why protest to his church when you just heard one side of the story?

NIGERIANS THINK, FORGET SOCIAL MEDIA. LET THE PARTIES SORT OUT THEMSELVES. THE CROWD IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT

Edited: For those quoting me. You all shouting about the donation on GoFundMe, all your donation won't even be equal to one Sunday service offering in only one branch. If he needs help, there are people from outside the country that will help him. See the pastor is from a wealthy home. His wife is also from a wealthy home. He also rolls with big pastors like Mensa Otabil, T.D Jakes, Bill Winston, etc.

I read the highlighted part of your post and I kept wondering about what you meant when you said that there are people from outside who can help Biodun. Help him do what exactly? Help him silence Timi and his wife or help him win a lawsuit?

You keep on reeling out Biodun's contacts as though these people can actually do anything if this rape issue blows out of proportion. Wait until some international women society latch on this news and make it their own battle and let us see if Jakes and all of his foreign contacts are able to save him.

RemiTinubu:
Before you accuse or believe that story, remember Neymer's case

Had it been that the innocent guy has no evidence by now the world will be tearing him limb for limb
his club would have sacked him and all endorsement destroyed.

Yes you heard me right
All these would have happened without proper investigation and done out of emotions and sentiments because the world frowns at rape (including me) and sometimes take actions on the accused without investigation due to gender ish.

Nowadays desperate ladies capitalize on that to pull down any man they feel like and the world won't even ask questions and just destroy the accuser without proper investigation.

I use to join the band wagon until Neymer's case showed me how wicked some ladies can be
who would ever think that such innocent looking latino will ever accuse neymer falsely.

The world have started believing her story till neymer luckily presented a solid proof to end the allegations.
ask yourself this question.

Neymer went free because he gat some evidence to prove his innocence.
What about numerous guys in the same situation that gat nothing to back up their claims?

I rest my case here.

Please I'm not defending COZA Pastor, infact i don't like that guy but let's be logical in our reasoning SOMETIMES.

If there is any person likely to jump on the bandwagon, it is the sheeple. One of them is already seeing this as a fight against the Church. It keeps me wondering how an attack on Biodun became an attack on the Church.

That was how Suleiman's personal battle with Otobo became an attack on the Church. Nonsense!!!

People are reacting this way because the Church has failed many. A Reformation is coming soon. It only takes a strong and sincere level of lobbying to kickstart it.

Angelfrost:
Please, with all due respect, you are going in circles... What is marriageable age, officially? What then becomes age of consent? How does a child's consent to sex make it okay to have sex with her? Why does this not apply to the male gender here?

Let's call a spade a spade... This is why we are still a third world nation... Please, look up the meaning of Statutory rape. The victim's consent is secondary to the appropriateness of the action.

Rather than accuse me of going in circles, why don't you take some time off to read about marriageable age and age of consent.

Always remember that the law is an ass.

Angelfrost:
Statutory rape is a law in Nigeria... Then, pray enlighten us why most Northern men are not in jail?

Does marriage make it justifiable?

Marriageable age is different from age of consent.

If marriageable age is lower than age of consent, marrying someone below the age of consent does not constitute statutory rape.

If this is proven true, Biodun's wife should never forgive him for being so disrespectful to her. It is enough he cheated on her without him calling her a cold dead fish.

Bizmagnet:
What if the man is innocent? A rapist (pastor) came to your house by 6.30A.M and you couldn't shout till he did it. He still had the gut to go downstairs to pick something and came back to the same you, yet you couldn't shout all through the period despite the fact that your sister was around in the same building. All through the years you couldn't call him out or sue him despite the fact that your family hasn't been poor. It's now you just woke up from your slumber and remembered someone raped you...you can now just shout! This is not a claim that the pastor is innocent but this "shout" is very suspicious. Now you're gathering vulnerabe people who were not there or living witnesses when the pastor performed the alleged act, and these hungry people will boldly protest and deride the MOG who may be innocent. The way people use wifi dey collect generational curses no be small.

You obviously don't know the meaning of rape. Your only idea of a rapist is one who must have forced himself on a woman while the woman is screaming and struggling. I don't blame you, though. That is how rape is portrayed in movies.

However, rape can be nonviolent. The victim doesn't have to cry before rape is registered.

If the story is true, then Fatoyinbo raped her on one out of many available basis. If she was 17, the age of consent in Nigeria is 18. So, there is no how the sex could have been consensual. Even if she was the one who seduced him, he would be docked as the guilty one.

Another basis is "abuse of authority". He doesn't have to behave like those violent rapists you see in the movies. All he needs is sweet talk the girl into parting her legs for him.

If I understand very well, there are women who trade their bodies for money and unless you default on agreed sum, there would be no drama.

If this is the case, why are people still raping and sexually assaulting women? It is the same with lecturers. Why must one willingly expose oneself to unnecessary drama that can destroy one's reputation?

punisha:
The way people be taking sides sha...
I will always stand against rape but this man should better speak and calm nerves.
The truth will eventually prevail.
Just saddening that it is the church again under attack.

Learn to separate the battle of the church from the battle of man.

Fatoyinbo is not the church. He should fight his own battle.

Daily, criminals from all forms of religion are shamed and no one has brought mosque or temple into the equation.

Battling a pastor is not the same as battling the Church. Battling the Church means battling the core principle of the Church which is the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jessyjack:
I had almost be raped by a pastor.... despite him not having his way because I don't know how God helped me to convince him that we should go meet in an hotel and he agreed, I couldn't stand the trauma that I fell sick for weeks and nobody knew what happened but my husband (then boyfriend)..... even when I finally had to tell my parents,they never believed me..... I was pained...... so if he has had his way years ago and I finally have the courage to speak out now,some idiot will be asking for evidence.....? I just don't know how some people reason.....

Sorry, my dear.

Don't worry. The punishment of the wicked is never asleep. All these randy men who are making mockery of the body of Christ will get their punishment one day.