demsy21: See... What people call "superior" and "inferior" pertaining the men and women's topic are relative terminology i'd rather not like to use for obvious reasons. The right terms from what i understand in the scriptures is "privilege" and ''responsibilities". Look, in islam, there are some things women are allowed to do , men can't do it, vice versa. Women can use necklaces, chains, jewelries, perfumes, etc while men are not allowed such. At the other side, men can go to the cemetery, recite the Quran loudly inside the mosque and do other things while their female counterparts are forbidden to do. See, in islam, we don't ask the reasons behind, for we believe the Almighty knows what is best for us. We believe and full stop.
Those who don't ask questions don't learn and never gain understanding.
MrPresident1: This is where Adam (Israel) failed. Rather than completely destroying the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Adam started partaking out of its fruit, until that tree completely corrupted him, and he died to God.
Everything up to the above I could work with, but this sounds like burn a book to me.
Where you get "completely destroying the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" from?
Aheadship: Another thing to consider is the timing and the instruction. At the time God gave the instruction, it was not his intent that they eat it then. But there was to come a time that man would judge the fallen angels and he would need the knowledge of good and evil to do so. Only at that time would it become right for man to eat that fruit.
Your videos inspire me to go to Russia! What you studying?
afrorossiyatv: Hello guys, this is Tochiphotos, and today I visited the famous Red Square in Moscow to find out if Russians know the capital of Nigeria.
I decided to make this video to educate Russians about Africa because some of them still think Africa is one big country and that's why I decided to shoot this video and the trivia today is about our great country Nigeria. The questions was very simple, tell me the capital of Nigeria and win N3,500
Watch the video below to see the hilarious answers.
mystiquerebirth: [/quote]Kiddo01 said "some" in the title (I hope you did not go back and edit!), and it appears in the op a couple of times. He said he was "not here to criticize or insult any one but to air out my pain which was caused by a pastor", and concluded with "Why are some pastors so deceptive?" The only slip he made, in fact, was an 'e' instead of an 'a' in his "so called m[e]n of God" for which you completely disregarded his pain of being fooled by a pastor who's name the op never mentioned, so I don't quite get why you say he "generalized it"!
[quote author=budaatum post=85395406]The following is an aside.
One problem I find most people have is we see through lenses. We think we see what is before us, but we actually look through the lenses of our (mis)conceptions and prejudices which distort how we see, so instead of seeing what's before us, we actually make what is before us look as we expect things to be. Religion is very faulty in doing this. Its like tinted glasses colouring reality.
DirtyGold: I was expecting you to say that. What I said has nothing to do with the charles darwin evolution that fits this conversation. Because that implies man changing form from apes to becoming the erect homo sapiens that exists now. Incremental knowledge in the sense that, we grow in communities and knowledge in passed down from generation to generation and is improved as time passes. When Information tech was just starting out, a 2mb storage device was the size of a walk in fridge. The phones our grandfathers used is different from what we use today... incremental knowledge refines....
Only those who wish to blind themselves see evolution as "man changing form from apes to becoming the erect homo sapiens that exists now". There's a lot more to it than that, and even you know that since you were "expecting you to say that" in response.
I'm implying "knowledge in passed down from generation to generation and is improved as time passes". Basically, evolution. It's the reason I have matches and a lighter that has evolved from rubbing stones to make fire. "Incremental knowledge" has refined how I light fires.
DirtyGold: You don't believe in a thing, yet, you are quoting and "understanding" words associated with them. Why bother? Since they dont exists to you and you dont believe in them, why dont you refuse to acknowledge them.
The words in a book do not exist? You are funny! I wonder where what we quote comes from then. Need I show sources for them so you know I don't just make up the words I quote? Do tell, is there any merit in loving ones enemies, or doing unto others as one might want done unto one? And why believe what you know as if you merely believe and haven't tested it?
The two who walked past the man who was "stripped of his clothes, beat and left half dead", were both believers, while the one who "saw him, took pity on him, bandaged his wounds pouring on oil and wine, then put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him, and the next day took out two denari and gave them to the innkeeper saying, ‘Look after him and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have", was an unbeliever and the one Christ said, “Go and do likewise”.
Consider that I can not possibly be referring to what I do not acknowledge, and what I refer to and acknowledge deserves a lot more than just believing it.
DirtyGold: In the context of Things fall apart, those characters exists in the play and that is why you have names to make reference to. Why didn't you mention buhari and trump instead of Okonkwo and Ikemefuna?
I didn't "mention buhari and trump instead of Okonkwo and Ikemefuna", because "buhari and trump" do not make my point while "Okonkwo and Ikemefuna” do make my point despite only "exist[ing] in the play", or more appropriately, in a book, and despite that, can be learned from.
DirtyGold: Reading and understanding has a third element which is perspective... and that is what I think is riling you up; my bad!
You'll have to elaborate on this. What do you think my perspective might be, and what makes you think I am riling?
Please know that you have in no way offended me.
DirtyGold: Same instincts and drive of survival, hunger, sex, shelter, protection, connection to a Higher power. Like I said earlier, we dont revert to thinking or doing things like our forefathers because we have better methods, platforms and channels for serving or fulfilling this drives. My brother, if/when you find yourself outside civilization, you will understand how to cope with the methods of our forefathers.
Unless you mean "find yourself outside civilization" with no opportunity to pack matches and lighter, you might be right here, but if you have ever tried lighting a fire with stones, you'd know how difficult it is if you don't know how.
I myself like being prepared, and do not embark on ventures without preparation, so it's very unlikey I'd find myself needing to light a fire with stones. The world I live in is nowhere like that of "our forefathers, I guess, and " the higher power" of understanding serves me very very well.
DirtyGold: Certainly not, I just felt you were deliberating refusing to work with what I've said by misinterpreting/misquoting me. Perspectives are different and I've acknowledged that above
Well, I hope you change your mind about what you felt after considering the evidence instead of just believing whatever you want to believe.
Remember I said you don't know me and you said you don't care? That knowing was about perspective, and we are here explaining each others perspective to one another, which I think is work to make one understood. You sir are working hard and it's appreciated.
TUANKU: I'm sure the security situation alone was way better than what it is at present. We see cases of rape and ritual killings where these kids are victims. I'm not totally against it due to our economic situation but at least it should be after the kid has attended school.
It was worse, actually. Ritual killlings and rape are not new. We just report them more today, which makes people think there are more than there ever was.
It my time rape was the womans' fault. Some idiots would say she went looking for it and deserved it and should have worn a hijab to protect herself from rape.
DirtyGold: Please, read to understand. I used the rubbing stone analogy to show you that you wont think of that because we already have channels of getting fire quickly and without stress. Although the need for fire is there, you wont think of it like our forefathers did which is because the humanity we enjoy today is benefiting from incremental accumulation of knowledge.
You are describing evolution. Love that.
DirtyGold: And here you are quoting supposedly "God words and Christ's life" without believing in them.
Believing in "God and Christ", is very differnt to understanding the words associated to them. Or do you think one has to believe Alice fell through a looking glass to learn from the book? Do you have to believe in Okonkwo and Ikemefuna to learn from Things Fall Apart? Is that not what it means to "read and understand" instead of merely believing with no understanding whatsoever?
DirtyGold: Religion is a platform for learning, advancement, integration, growth and much more. Absolutely true! I never said anything to the contrary like I clarified in the previous quote. We've learnt from our forefathers and we dont revert to their ways because of where we are today. However, that does not mean that we dont have the same instincts, drives and needs as they did back then... we just have better channels for them now.
What same instinct and drives? To live? Then yes. The world our forefathers lived in is very different to the one we live in so applying the solutuons of our forefathers won't necessarily solve the problens we face today. It would be odd for me to abandon common lighter and matches and start rubbing stones to get fire.
I think you are looking for division and an argument instead of seeing where we agree. My advise, read and understand instead of thinking others can't read and understand!
TUANKU: Hawking especially by kids of school age should never be encouraged. There are many ways you can teach your kids about life other than this, kudos to her though for even having such thought.
Its bad, but sometimes one has no choice. I hawked fruits at 7. It gave me money to buy books and newspaper by 9. And no, we were not that poor but I wanted my own income.
I, buda, predict that stupidity and ignorance will significantly reduce.
People would stop believing silly stuff and actually question in order to know because knowing is superior to just believing and trembling in fear.
And so you can measure and judge the fulfilling of this prophecy right, the evidence for this would be seen by the end of the first year of the decade and increase significantly thereafter as we all use our brains and minds!
Mayzie: � holy shiit! Then the sun must be a baloon... Inflated by day and deflated by night.
The Japanese have been fueling the sun for 1000s of years and are very good at controlling how hot it burns (or glows) and where, depending on the agreements signed by each nation.
We are very lucky in Africa. A very long time ago, like a million years ago, agreements were signed by Egypt to light the entire Africa in perpetuity, which is why we have so much sunlight. Aborigines in Australia too had such deals, but Europeans messed it up when they arrived and now burn until they sign new deals.
You can see the poles have ice. That's because there was no people there to sign deals and its now too expensive, though they are getting more now which is why the ice melts.
referandum: But I believe that some way somehow. The document and credentials must have gone through his office.
Not necessarily. If you think of the number of people above this person, bubu and his office would have to be checking credentials and documents of close to 10000 people, and I doubt he'd have the time or the interest to do that.
Abohboy: They are building a railway university in well daura and than a rolling stock construction factory in ogun state the plan for Aba is to be a textile and automotive hub for Nigeria and Africa as a whole
Thanks for enlightening me. We are not so bad after all.
sonmvayina: So if I come to you that ifeanyi Okeke was sent by God, and that fulani herdsmen killed him, but his death was actually for your sins.... And you have to give your life to him.. To be saved..
Would you?
I know the question was not for me, but, no, we wouldn't. We don't just believe anything willienillie! We will ask you to provide evidence for your claim, then we will test if your claim and the evidence is valid, and even then we might say good luck to you.