Didn't follow your conversation with Ihe on axioms. I was referring to intuition and conscience there. But more of intuition.
Intuition? The ability to understand something instinctively without the need for conscious reasoning? Why would you use such a lazy ability? Has Jesus not opened your reasoning eye?
Those who are mud, intuit. The mud the Lord breathed the talent of reasoning into use their God given talent and reason with it.
budaatum: There's a special love Like an eagle flying with a dove I'll find it in the end If I keep on searching, but until then I'm Carrie not-the-kind-of-girl-you'd-marry That's me
OkCornel: Isn't it refreshing worshiping a Jesus you have absolutely no clue on what he looks like?
Its the most life giving experience I've ever had for it keeps me seeking for understanding.
My first encounter with Jesus was age 7 when my family moved from Deviland to Hell. The Civil War had ended and ma and pa said we going home to kwashiorkoland where everyone was "Jesus is like this and Jesus is like that and will do this and that for you". It was just so unreal so I read the book from 9 to 11 and found out they were all just peddling their images of God they had created in their own heads.
In Yoruba, the Lord God is "awa ma ri idi". It means 'however much you seek you will never have a full understanding of the vastness of the Lord God Almighty'. Kind of throws Jesus' "Seek and you shall find" on its head, would you not say. But therein is the mystery of the Word. In seeking - which one stops doing once one makes up an image in one's head - comes the knowledge of how puny ones mind is and how vast is the unexplored universe.
It is refreshingly blissful to know how ignorant buda is. Reminds me to be as a child.
jesusjnr: Don't worry about him, for he knows much better about this topic than you think, for someone that has seen the face of Jesus severally and knows exactly what he looks like.
That said, if it were up to men like you, he wouldn't be here for he's heard so many such things before from the lips of men, but he's here because he's not led by the flesh or the things that be of men, but by the Spirit of God.
But speaking of false witnesses, you can still try your luck if you'd succeed with your lies and ulterior motives.
ubunja: see how stupid you are?? In what world are romance novels meant for married women? [s]You want his wife to start daydreaming about barechested guys with exotic names seducing bored married women?? Are you even serious right now??[/s]
I suppose, for you, he should keep the temptation of knowledge away from his wife least she be led astray? Go on, ubunja, tell him to get her a niqaab.
YorubaEmir: I’m not trying to discourage you bro but designing an app for nairaland is not being innovative. Nairaland does not want to move on, so move on bro. Channel your skill to a more productive adventure. You’re not the first that will design an app for nairaland and it’ll end up with others inside the trash. I believe a lot of skills and manpower went into creating the app and you’ve learned a lot during the process. I’ll advise you to move on with your skills as nairaland is stuck in the dark ages
You fail to see that the op knows something you don't, which is that Nairaland is you and me and the reason Nairaland don't move on is me and you is stuck. Not booksrite001 though. Book is not sitting on ass waiting for a mover, for as you see, op is a mover, moving us on out of the "dark ages".
Funny when some take the same attitude to Naija go better one day. Instead of moving our lazy asses and making things better, we fall on our knees and pray for better to drop down like the manna falls down from the heavens.
Well done mover op. Like the "dislike" button. Does it have "ignore" too and fb and twitter? The ability to do those will increase publicity and move us on. Tags too. Some like cataloging. Will post stars when I've tested it. Tell me a bit about security please. How hackable is your app?
simonlee: is it the state governments that owe 3.97trillion that they want to go and recover money from?
Yes. States has been paying for their house in Abuja, house in their state, house in their village, annual decorations, health care and education abroad for them and their village, two car every month, clothing allowance toothpaste and yansh cleaning allowance in perpetual pension
joseph1013: THE ARGUMENT MUSLIMS & CHRISTIANS AGREE ON (AND BOTH GET WRONG)
A Muslim recently told me why he believes God exists. He used a very common argument that is also used by Christians so I thought it worthwhile giving a full rebuttal. Here it is:
It's good to see you have thought about this a little bit but you have not thought about it a lot.
I can say this with confidence because your argument uses common logical fallacies and at least one assumption that is most likely wrong. Once you eliminate these errors, your argument disappears.
You said, "Can this universe just spring out of nothing without a source?"
Firstly, we don't know the universe did spring out of nothing. There are very good reasons to believe that the universe began to expand about 13.8 billion years ago. But we don't know what triggered the expansion nor do we know what existed prior to the expansion. However, there is no reason to believe nothing existed prior to the expansion--this is an unwarranted assumption.
You said, "I believe the Energy that started everything, and is everything, is God."
OK but that is just a belief. You do not know that it is true--you don't even know that God exists to start everything. So this is your second problem--you just assume what happened and who was responsible and there is no reason to believe your assumptions are true. You need to prove God exists before it makes sense to even suggest this. Assuming what you are trying to prove (that God exists), is the fallacy of circular reasoning and it renders your argument invalid.
Essentially your argument is, I can't see any way the universe we see today could have come to exist without a supernatural power, therefore a supernatural power must exist. This is an example of the argument from ignorance fallacy. Just because you can't see a way this could have happened does not mean a supernatural power either exists or was involved.
You don't know everything, and even if no one alive today knows how the universe could have come about, it does not mean no one will ever know. Do you know every explanation science will ever propose for this in, say, the next 10,000 years? No, of course, you don't, which is why your argument is invalid.
Your argument is already deceased but you have made yet one more error, so I'll mention it for completeness. As a Muslim, you believe in a god first introduced to the world by Abraham. This is one of the thousands of gods that men have worshipped. This god could have revealed itself to Abraham or it could be one of the thousands of fictional gods that men have made up. Can you prove Abraham's god was not invented? I don't think you can but feel free to try.
So, even if a supernatural power was responsible, you don't know which power was responsible. It could even have been a god that has never revealed itself to mankind and it could be that ALL human gods were invented by humans. You are just assuming that if a god was involved, it was Abraham's god. Such an assumption is just a baseless opinion.
With such a combination of fallacies and unwarranted assumptions, your argument is completely worthless. If this is why you believe your god exists, I suggest you stop believing it because believing things for bad reasons is definitely not smart.
There's a special love Like an eagle flying with a dove I'll find it in the end If I keep on searching, but until then I'm Carrie not-the-kind-of-girl-you'd-marry That's me
cenaman: na before monkey dey work baboon dey chop, now na monkey wey work go chop. sai baba, i wish the constitution can be amended to enable u contest for third term.
Don’t date a man who reads. He will be interesting. Your romantic dates will be like Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland. Your late night conversation will take hours to end. He will throw ideas and expect you to bounce something back. Brain exercises are not for the lazies.
Don’t date a man who reads. He is fine spending time on his own. He can entertain himself for hours with or without you. A Brief History of Time might be your worst enemy. You might wonder if he is having an affair with Emma or Jane Eyre. You will always have to share his time with books. And, when you work late, he won’t get upset; books will keep him company.
Arewa1408: Pou pick and choose what to believe. If punch says what you want to hear, you believe, if the same punch says what you don't like, you will say punch is lying. Continue, God almighty is the real Chukwu Okike Abiama and he will always and forever give victory and power to those that are truthful.
Punch is not blogger, they should do better and leave no room for doubt. They definitely should not let doubt be placed on their reporting.
Chukwu Okike Abiama help you find its trully herdsmen. I will condemn them with you, but I'm not into stringing people up unless its yorooro m nke bu n’ezi.
"You shall not commit murder; you shall not commit adultery; you shall not steal; you shall not bear false witness; you shall honour your father and mother; and you shall love your neighbour as yourself," Matthew 19:18-19
He taught that "right action" was necessary, which specifically included abstaining from killing, stealing, and adultery. He taught that right speech was necessary, which specifically included abstaining from deceit and false witness. The Buddhist would see Jesus as merely affirming what Buddha had already established long before Him. But the Buddhist would be mistaken.
And your reason is, "one manuscript is older than the other".
A big, big shame on you. You have been indoctrinated to believe lies and hate others even without evidence. Someone is asking for evidence before concluding but you don't want that. You are not capable of accepting the TRUTH as the TRUTH, it has to be what you believe and it does not matter if it is right or wrong. Shame on you indeed.
I also condemn the Punch Newspaper reporter for being sensational in his reportage by not conducting proper investigation to ascertain the identity of those behind the crime nor waited for the state Police Command to establish the identity of the killer (s) before publishing it to the reading public.
Enchantaurl: What is your problem? If I collect money from you it's scam. I reject money politely is another problem.
The other time I told someone the amount of capital I was looking for Nairaland EfCC said I wanted to scam him, Now I rejected 5000 for feeding and it's called hogwash.
A MAN and his son were once going with their Donkey to market.
As they were walking along by its side a countryman passed them and said: “You fools, what is a Donkey for but to ride upon?”
So the Man put the Boy on the Donkey and they went on their way. But soon they passed a group of men, one of whom said: “See that lazy youngster, he lets his father walk while he rides.”
So the Man ordered his Boy to get off, and got on himself. But they hadn’t gone far when they passed two women, one of whom said to the other: “Shame on that lazy lout to let his poor little son trudge along.”
Well, the Man didn’t know what to do, but at last he took his Boy up before him on the Donkey. By this time they had come to the town, and the passers-by began to jeer and point at them.
The Man stopped and asked what they were scoffing at. The men said: “Aren’t you ashamed of yourself for overloading that poor Donkey of yours—you and your hulking son?”
The Man and Boy got off and tried to think what to do. They thought and they thought, till at last they cut down a pole, tied the Donkey’s feet to it, and raised the pole and the Donkey to their shoulders.
They went along amid the laughter of all who met them till they came to Market Bridge, when the Donkey, getting one of his feet loose, kicked out and caused the Boy to drop his end of the pole.
In the struggle the Donkey fell over the bridge, and his fore-feet being tied together he was drowned.
“That will teach you,” said an old man who had followed them:
Enchantaurl: The fools are finally quiet after showcasing their foolishness and derailing my thread. They claimed i got no pm, I posted a screenshot and they went dumb. Opened up my posts foolishly I countered them now they are quiet.
You carry big brain inside your head, what did you expect?
I love this tube. It points out the fallacy of false equivalence. Look careful and see how they switch from the Doctrine of Christianity to the practice of the religion. It is the sort of fallacy no brains never see.
Is it not a fallacy to blame my imperfection on Dante?
Enchantaurl: What is your problem? If I collect money from you it's scam. I reject money politely is another problem.
The other time I told someone the amount of capital I was looking for Nairaland EfCC said I wanted to scam him, Now I rejected 5000 for feeding and it's called hogwash.
Human beings will always be human.
The Man, the Boy, and the Donkey
A MAN and his son were once going with their Donkey to market.
As they were walking along by its side a countryman passed them and said: “You fools, what is a Donkey for but to ride upon?”
So the Man put the Boy on the Donkey and they went on their way. But soon they passed a group of men, one of whom said: “See that lazy youngster, he lets his father walk while he rides.”
So the Man ordered his Boy to get off, and got on himself. But they hadn’t gone far when they passed two women, one of whom said to the other: “Shame on that lazy lout to let his poor little son trudge along.”
Well, the Man didn’t know what to do, but at last he took his Boy up before him on the Donkey. By this time they had come to the town, and the passers-by began to jeer and point at them.
The Man stopped and asked what they were scoffing at. The men said: “Aren’t you ashamed of yourself for overloading that poor Donkey of yours—you and your hulking son?”
The Man and Boy got off and tried to think what to do. They thought and they thought, till at last they cut down a pole, tied the Donkey’s feet to it, and raised the pole and the Donkey to their shoulders.
They went along amid the laughter of all who met them till they came to Market Bridge, when the Donkey, getting one of his feet loose, kicked out and caused the Boy to drop his end of the pole.
In the struggle the Donkey fell over the bridge, and his fore-feet being tied together he was drowned.
“That will teach you,” said an old man who had followed them:
0temSapien: 10. Who shall study the histories of Otem and fear death? Whose mind shall be so strong to read the truth and still have joy reading the lies in the books of religion? Even Vishnu have said, let the truth of the words of Otem prevail.
29. Now Otem, we have done our own part, therefore go and do your part also. Be not lazy in the compilation and interpretation of the texts of histories which we have given to you. 30. And we shall breathe life into the history which you shall write and it shall live on in the minds of the people, rather than religious texts. And humanity shall begin to use their own brains, worshipping no god while they do good to themselves.